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    Do you members hold the belief that a divine supernational creator provided humanity with a sacred text to serve as a guide for living? Furthermore, do you believe that this holy book exists to this day?

    Or do you believe that all religions are human creations lacking any inherent truth or validity, and are designed solely to manipulate and control human behavior and thinking?

    Do you follow any religion? why, why not?

    I am interested in your responses

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    Default Re: Do you follow any Religion?

    None of the above.

    Why do you carve these things up in the way you do ?

    It seems a very confused state.


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    Default Re: Do you follow any Religion?

    Quote Posted by MatrixNeo (here)
    Do you members hold the belief that a divine supernational creator provided humanity with a sacred text to serve as a guide for living? Furthermore, do you believe that this holy book exists to this day?

    Or do you believe that all religions are human creations lacking any inherent truth or validity, and are designed solely to manipulate and control human behavior and thinking?

    Do you follow any religion? why, why not?

    I am interested in your responses
    Go to this site - his books will answer all your questions about the origin of religion.

    https://paulanthonywallis.com/

    When your done there go to

    https://thestageoftime.com/
    Both excellent resources on who and what created Religion.

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    Default Re: Do you follow any Religion?

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    • Avalonians will recognize/resonate with most of these personality traits I summed up below, as outsiders may only recognize/resonate with some of it:
    01. Being ahead of time ... How you know you are "ahead of time"? ... Simple: Count how many times you are vindicated last decades! (or years).

    02. No fear of being called out, >>> as truth, never fears to be questioned!

    03. Understanding how "group psychology" works in any form ... Staying in your own integrity & self-honesty is KEY!

    04. Allowing yourself to surprise yourself, going beyond dwelling in self-pity
    • Always having an antenna open that:
    A. things could be (very) different from what you think it is ...
    B. things could be (very) different from how it appears to be (how it is sold to us by anyone!)
    C. things could be (very) different from what you assume "how it is".

    05. Being aware how (sometimes) self-deception works and why ... in many forms, depending on where you are and who you're working with.

    06.
    Being aware how (sometimes) self-sabotage works and why!

    07. No need to be told: "what to think" but rather: "how to think/reason" by asking much better (deeper) questions! That is beyond the mass induced / pushed narratives.

    08. Understanding human history, especially the human conditioning, that is beyond what "history books at schools" teaches.

    09. Being aware that in the world of the paranormal, many seem to love to "jump to conclusions" falsely assuming: "it must be mind control" or "demons" projecting their own fears on that of what they do not really comprehend.

    10. Being an "outcast" within the "normalcy bias" people that mostly promotes more "new normal" insanity!

    11. Putting some effort to dig (much) deeper in any controversial topic at hand with ease! ... Having the skills to do so more effectively.

    12. Willingness to learn something new! ... Which seems a super obvious, very healthy quality ... But sadly enough, so many "normals" do not ask real inquiring questions to learn something new, but rather want their preconceived ideas/"conclusions" to be reaffirmed! ... Thus, do not really listen nor want to understand/comprehend what you have to offer! <<< This psychological mechanism (behavior) is exactly what most Avalonians loathe!

    13. Having access to a vast network of alternative media sources, knowing that none of them are flawless, but at least they are more free to ask & discuss the right (more intelligent) questions!

    14. Being beyond mass censorship ... Knowing how corrupt "fact-checkers sites" operate.

    15. Being aware that everybody can be a victim of a psy-op ... but that does not mean you are a "psy-op" >>> and accusatory claims of being "controlled opposition" has been shown dead wrong over and over and over again!

    16. Knowing the history of (declassified) Government "False Flag Type Operations" and why they did it and still do to this day!

    17. When you had personal "unexplained" strange experiences that changed/shaped your view of the world!... Questioning "reality" ... Even learn how to question literally everything, especially your own (deep-rooted) assumptions! ... This personal "quest for truth" allows you to be more often wiser and more alert of how Psychology of Totalitarianism really works ... Having an antidote (being immune) against Mass Formation Psychosis 24/7.

    18. Knowing who the real pioneers in the past were who exposed so many things, that is happening right now (globally!).

    19. Having a better understanding who you really are in context of all the mass deceptions that are going on almost all levels.

    20. Having a sense of reaching out to like-minded (spiritual minded) people from all walks of life, sharing thoughts/ideas/tips how to deal with what is coming and what is happening right now!

    21. Knowing the difference between healthy skepticism (as trust has to be earned not blindly given) vs pseudo skeptics

    22. Never lose having a genuine "sense of wonder" like a child seeing things for the first time.

    23. Knowing that the concept of a Prime Creator is, in my view, much bigger & beyond any man-made (and/or alien-made and/or a.i. made) religions to serve human/alien/a.i. based corrupted agendas with psychopathic control freaks at the top ... and any deity that "needs" to be worshiped is a big red flag to begin with!
    • There is so much more I can write here, but I stop for now, ... maybe I will add some more by editing this reply/post later on! ... So: "to be continued" ...


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    Default Re: Do you follow any Religion?

    Any "Holy Scripture" of any kind was never written by God but written by humans who may be inspired by God ... and in my view, there is No Monopoly to somehow have the gift to write inspirational words from the Divine ... The problem is that humans have limited comprehension and limited means to translate the Devine 100% correctly ... Even with the best intentions, all "translations" of the "interpretations" of the receiver are ALL of them far from "flawless" ... Thus, we see glimpses of The Divine through the lens of the human messenger.

    Anyone who claims it is impossible to have "holy scripture" outside their own scripture of choice is LIMITING the Prime Creator! ...
    • Thus, it boils down to control freaks imposing their assumptions (beliefs) on others. To me, that is pathetic.
    Prime Creator is way too big for any man-made (or alien made) religion ... sadly enough, it is humans who corrupt the original intent of anything Divine. "The chosen ones" is for people having big egos and/or feel insecure that need to compensate that lack of healthy self-awareness. Almost every belief works like a program full of self-imposed conditions, often pushing & imposing tunnel vision narratives on others. And to a degree, their "success" is measured in how others join the self-imposed conditioning. That kind of behavior is in my opinion the opposite of the Devine that is beyond human based mind-games.

    There is no monopoly with genuine, honest spirituality (maybe there are endless sparks of the Divine active, and you're not even realizing it) ... Most religions are all about control and claiming their "interpretation" is the "highest authority" and because of that (myopic) attitude we still have endless wars going on ... Atheists too, have their rigid tunnel vision belief-systems, that ALSO can lead to horrific war crimes!

    * Prime Creator is way too big for any man-made and/or alien made religions! ... any (alleged) "God" that needs worship is a big red flag for me!

    Quote Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    any (alleged) "God" that needs worship is a big red flag for me!
    God doesn't need anything, not our worship, not our attention, nothing. We need God.
    You should understand more about what worship is, beside submission to the Creator, it is also gratitude, being aware that He is the supreme Sovereign of everything and being aware and grateful of He who protects us from our visible and invisible enemies. Who protect us from evil entities, who their main purpose is to destroy what is good and to make people lives miserable. Those who are aware of the invisible war in this world, know well how much we need to be near God, in prayer, in worship, in good deeds and in submission.
    So many fanatic (obsessive) "believers" (Christians, Muslims, Jews etc.) ask me: "Who do I worship"? ... Because they do not like to be questioned ... after meeting all kinds of "believers" last 40+ years I noticed many of them want me to worship their God ... and if I don't "I suppose to worship something else" instead ... They even insinuate/assume I "must" be (somehow) worshiping evil or demons or "the devil" because I have the audacity to refuse to do what they do.

    The whole "worship" concept is often used by fanatics of all kinds, and they project their own behavior on others, falsely assuming you "must" do something similar ... And they know from their point of view that worshiping false gods is heresy. Even if it is not the case (me worshiping anything) they do not care, they just assume you do.
    • When people think they know "exactly" what God "wants" or not ... they have an attitude that is, in my view, beyond arrogance.
    To me, worship is blind obedience without the courage to question mind control mechanisms at play ... Personally, it is the "imposing" stuff that gets me reacting.

    There are many different types of well documented books describing tons of good research in cult behavior, group think, mass formation psychosis, cultism ... How they talk ... how they "reason" ... how they infiltrate ... how they manipulate ... how they want to control/push their tunnel vision narrative on others ... how they need others to join "their mission".
    When you study mass psychology for 40+ years like I have done, you may come to the same conclusion ... not that is necessary because I am not responsible for your quality of thinking & judging.

    Last four decades people quoting "holy scripture" (written & translated by humans) on me >>> and many times "worship" is mentioned in many forms ... so after a while I just say what I say best!

    Any God that needs worship is a big red flag ... knowing that the REAL Prime Creator does not need any worship at all ... and this Prime Creator is beyond any man-made (or alien-made) religions, that is why I am immune to people quoting scripture (written & translated by humans) 24/7 obsessively ... Because I see the psychology agenda of it.
    • And I have far more and much greater respect for people doing real good deeds coming from within, not because they are told to do so (or need to be told to do so).


    cheers,
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    For the record: ... I personally met (in real life, face to face) many colleague/fellow "truthers" being: Christian, Muslim, Jew etc. exposing the Tyrannical Totalitarian New World Order Agenda and many of them are not fanatic nor obsessive at all ... and learned a lot from them which I am sincerely grateful about and really appreciated their input/insights. And it is because of them I have hope for humankind, as we need a new kind of unity against NWO Tyranny!
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    Default Re: Do you follow any Religion?

    Quote Posted by MatrixNeo (here)
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    Define the word: "believe"
    • ... I rather: know, experience, being aware, being consciousness of etc. etc.
    If belief/believe is (very) similar to words like: "hope" and/or "wishing" and/or "assuming" and/or "guessing" etc. etc. I fully understand why people do that.

    And in my view, there is nothing wrong to admit: "I do not know (for sure)"
    • Not for sure knowing does not mean "it is impossible"
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    Default Re: Do you follow any Religion?

    Do I believe a "divine supernatural Creator provided humanity with a sacred text"?
    The answer is 100% No.

    I believe religion is just a secondary layer of social politics, and thus has been over-ridden by foul egotistical, self serving members of humanity.
    My own belief is that Religion is all about control.
    Thus the religious books written are controlling, and totally man made.

    Just so you know my beliefs, sitting here on PA...
    I believe in God, a divine essence to this Universe. A being who gave substance to this Universe, but I don't care for Religion.

    Why have I come to that belief? Partly upbringing, but I have been on many a meditation/visualization course, the last 2 where with Stuart Wilde in Amsterdam & Ecuador.
    On one of those meditation Journeys I met god (In my minds eye)... and god was a woman/female who was asleep.
    She was currently dreaming all of our current existence into being.

    Does that mean what I saw is true?
    Of course not, but most of what I saw has come true (80%), and I now still believe in god being feminine in nature & real.
    I guess that was a turning point, as every time someone said the word "God" in my lifetime my mind would automatically envision a male entity, now I don't.

    At the end of the day I believe God is real and they encompass everything (male/ female, good/bad). The nature of life is we are born into varying societies as blank slates, and then are taught the beliefs of our social surroundings... and start placing labels upon ourselves.
    LABELS - masculine/feminine, job titles, social hierarchy, religious beliefs, political left or right, age groups, race, etc, etc, etc.
    The more labels we give ourselves in life's journey, the more we become divided as 'Citizens' of this world.

    Anyway, if we are going to rely on constraining labels, I guess I simply have come to believe God leans slightly toward the feminine, and she never wrote a book of fiction, saying, "you all need to believe in this or i won't love you".
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    Quote Posted by MatrixNeo (here)
    Do you members hold the belief that a divine supernational creator provided humanity with a sacred text to serve as a guide for living? Furthermore, do you believe that this holy book exists to this day?

    Or do you believe that all religions are human creations lacking any inherent truth or validity, and are designed solely to manipulate and control human behavior and thinking?
    Questioning with two (extreme) alternatives given - like it was a kind of multiple or single choice survey or test - creates a FALSE DICHOTOMY. Maybe this was not your intention and you just wanted to inspire and elicit responses with these 'examples' out of a spectrum. But it comes across as this fake duality. There's more than just black and white thinking, especially to this topic in general.

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    Most of the religious "Texts" we see today, were written, if you believe the writings, by the hands of man... In fact, they're noted as being as such.. "Book of John, Book of Enoch"

    Who knows, maybe our space neighbors did come and leave us some tablets or books... But I think it has all been taken way out of context... I believe we had visitors, and we ourselves at some point, had a very highly advanced life here on this planet...

    And those encounters from "The Heavens" were just that. The et visitations of today... Maybe they left knowledge... But were they the "Ultimate supernatural God" that everyone tends to pray to?? I doubt it.

    At this point, organized religion is a tool. Look at the Catholic system, where everyone has to repent for their sins, and offer them up to a priest, for forgiveness... What they're saying is, tell us your most horrible deeds, and we will forgive you... This is nothing more than an intelligence collection mechanism... The best one for their time... You will not be harmed if you tell us everything that you know... A kind method of not being punished by your God, for the things that you do that can weaken any state.

    Do you believe a God would care if you loved two women, and had relations with them both? No... But a government with secrets would, if that third party was the enemy..

    Religion in my opinion, is a contrived resource of it's time... And still being used to this day as a method to subdue the masses into believing a superior force will shun them if they act out... Much more powerful than any army we have on Earth, etc... Your ultimate soul being at stake...

    To me, all religions must align if there is one ultimate God... Yet they do not, and they have many names for each one... Each region has their own name for "Their God" how could this be, if it were indeed true that there is only one God? Confusion about who they are speaking about? I doubt it... You wouldn't want to get that wrong and pray to the wrong person your entire life right?

    There ARE however, some wonderful messages that are intermingled within that mess of scary texts that are designed to control the masses with fear. Those are the messages that people should focus on, be a good person, love thy neighbor, etc...

    But if you need some church to tell you to be a good person, and you need to pay someone to secure your own "Saving" I am afraid you're missing the point entirely....
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    I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice that MatrixNeo has not been back...

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    Default Re: Do you follow any Religion?

    Quote Do you members hold the belief that a divine supernational creator provided humanity with a sacred text to serve as a guide for living? Furthermore, do you believe that this holy book exists to this day?
    I as one member yes absolutely. This book does exist to this day IMO. With 100's of proofs through historical records & archeology.

    Quote Or do you believe that all religions are human creations lacking any inherent truth or validity, and are designed solely to manipulate and control human behavior and thinking?
    This is a little more difficult to answer because religion might be viewed as a category or umbrella that something being spiritual might follow under. The category of religion is a term made by humans and under that category might fall a number of different faiths. Some faiths are a total human creation while another would be inspired by God. In some cases humans wrote the texts through Devine inspiration. Some religions might be designed to manipulate while another might be a road map to follow.

    Quote Do you follow any religion? why, why not?
    Not a religion per say, but a way or faith.

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    Default Re: Do you follow any Religion?

    Negatory. Religion is a prison of the mind, and maybe even the soul.

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    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice that MatrixNeo has not been back...
    You’re not the only one to notice, and they have been asked if they’re a bot already .. I believe in the short time they’ve been here they have started three threads, and only replied to one twice and another once…

    I didn’t realize bots actually started threads.. odd behavior for sure, asking only questions then bailing as if not caring about actual interaction on any issue…

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    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
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    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice that MatrixNeo has not been back...
    You’re not the only one to notice, and they have been asked if they’re a bot already .. I believe in the short time they’ve been here they have started three threads, and only replied to one twice and another once…

    I didn’t realize bots actually started threads.. odd behavior for sure, asking only questions then bailing as if not caring about actual interaction on any issue…
    • very odd indeed! ... see also this
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    Default Re: Do you follow any Religion?

    Quote Posted by MatrixNeo (here)
    Do you follow any religion? why, why not?
    In short, no.

    A bit longer version:
    I don't think I (or anyone else) need a religion to experience or practice spiritualism. I define religions as power systems communicated via stories designed to advance the views that usually serve "Earthly" desires of power-hungry stakeholders or are based on hallucinations or mental conditions. That said, I do understand that people seek support and comfort from religions and traditions. But also, many religions may contain some information that can be considered "supernatural," although there is no such thing as supernatural as I define it. We just lack the knowledge that can explain what is seen as supernatural. Until then, it is impossible to judge what parts of religions are divine and what is not. Therefore, religions should not have any way to influence the societies that are run or how people are treated, as it is more likely than anything else that the decisions based on religions are based on sinister motives or folklore and stories.

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    You’re not the only one to notice, and they have been asked if they’re a bot already .. I believe in the short time they’ve been here they have started three threads, and only replied to one twice and another once…

    I didn’t realize bots actually started threads.. odd behavior for sure, asking only questions then bailing as if not caring about actual interaction on any issue…
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    I was born into a religious Catholic family, but I've never really identified as a devout follower of that faith. From a young age, I've been curious about the meaning of life and have questioned the traditional religious teachings I was exposed to. I haven't been to church in years, and I find the concept of worship frustrating, as it doesn't resonate with my personal beliefs and values.

    Over time, I've developed a sense of spiritual awareness, and I've found that some of the teachings of Buddhism align more closely with my thoughts and life. I appreciate the emphasis on inner peace, mindfulness, and non-attachment to materialistic things. In fact, I can relate to the idea of living a life akin to a monk, focusing on self-discovery and personal growth rather than taking life too seriously or chasing after material possessions. If I were to align myself with a mainstream religion, it would probably be Buddhism. However, I don't see my beliefs as fitting neatly into any established religious category. My "religion," is not about worship but about self-empowerment and seeking the light within myself. I believe in the importance of personal growth, mindfulness, and living in harmony..

    Recently, I've become particularly interested in the topic of death. Many philosophers argue that we shouldn't fear death, and I believe that this perspective should be more widely taught, even in schools. I'm aware of various ideas about the afterlife and near-death experiences, which have deepened my understanding of this topic. However, it's frustrating to see how many people remain deeply attached to what they perceive as the "reality" of material existence...Some people laugh at me when I mention the idea of living in a tent or in nature, suggesting that there's no need for a traditional house

    so following up that question "follow any religion?" is No, In my quest for knowledge and self-discovery, I have found that philosophy, psychology, and spirituality provide valuable frameworks for understanding the human experience and our place in the universe.
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    In this incarnation been born as a Parsi-Zoroastrian..from an early age, being a part of a very small minority of people, I was always curious about the bigger picture and always rejected 'religion' including the one I am meant to be following...although the tenets of this religion are based on <<Humata Huxta Huvarsta>> Good Thoughts.. Good Words and Good Deeds.. Simply following blindly a religion because we were/are conditioned to do so since childhood has never resonated with me:.. however, I do believe that we are all a fractal of one source - call it what you may: Source/ God/.. I prefer to call it "The ALL".
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    The word "literary" makes no sense here. Even if it's supposed to be "literally", I think that word is unnecessary.

    Anyway, I appreciate all of the essays but I'll restrict my answer to this: I don't have a religion but my "bible" is "The Conscious Universe" by Dean Radin. He explains everything far better than I could and, although he's probably a long way from being 100% correct, I think he's closer to the truth than most.

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