Movie 'Contact' - Hidden Gem

[Agape]

One more clue ..not a gem really. But that just in case and unless you fully believe that the whole show was a sole creation of Mr Hayden and see you are finding yourself in close loop that keeps turning around till the end of human epoch aka anthropocene.

Which is also right to presume from that perspective of whatever comes after the anthropocene will or may be only know as noocene, the time -era of Knowing where newly advanced human-oid , will survive and evolve with help of its AI or other entities from elsewhere.

But in the currently dumb still human age we are still turning around the same topics forever with the smallest possible effect at all.

😅

Now the clue. The overall experiment failed and was bound to fail because , so atypically “human error”.

( Should the transmission with instruction had happened) the tech department supervised by paranoid security department was not keen to follow “original instruction” as such

but
installed “safety belts” stripping the human pilot to the chair and screwing the whole chair to the floor of the capsule.

Perhaps none of which was specified in the “original instruction” but it made no sense to the human party to send pilot to space unscrewed and untethered.

On the other hand and should the whole lift off happened without accident the perfectly gravitationally balanced flight could have happened with the pilot chair floating safely in the centre of the capsule ( this adding no weight to the state of supergravity ) and the whole failure may have never happened.

Elie aka Dr Arroway could have been “fired to Space” for indefinite amount of time and never come back.

But ..perhaps, after some time ..she would manage to send a message ..


100 years later they could be sending people fro and back regularly .



The bottom line clue point : no matter how simple or complicated may be the principles of interstellar contact

a/we won’t be able to understand immediately without misinterpretation , error and lots of time

b/if we have to “act on faith” we will likely fail



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[Karl]

Onevoice has captured the 11:09 lab image and posted it to his website:

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p5

Unfortunately, I made a typo when sending the 79 (1:19) information, and Onevoice copied the frame below from 1:19:29.

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p22
11929 is not prime, 11927 is. My bad. The image I want you to see is shown below.
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79 (1:19): Intelligence
[11839] 11903, 11909, 11923, 11927, 11933, 11939, 11941, 11953, 11959 [12007]
1:19:03 – 1:19:27: 1:19:27

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/ass...5&d=1693616372


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c22

83 (1:23): Adolescence
[12253] 12301, 12323, 12329, 12343, 12347 [12401]
1:23:01 – 1:23:23: 12323

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p23


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c23

89 (1:29): IMC
[12853] 12907, 12911, 12917, 12919, 12923, 12941, 12953, 12959 [13001]
1:28:53 – 1:29:53: 1:29:53

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p24


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c24

97 (1:37): Apocalypse
[12853] 12907, 12911, 12917, 12919, 12923, 12941, 12953, 12959 [13001]
1:37:29 – 1:37:59: 13759

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p25


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c25

[Karl]

101 (1:41): Space-ship
[14057] 14107, 14143, 14149, 14153, 14159 [14207]
1:41:07 – 1:41:59: 1:41:59

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p26


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c26

103 (1:43): Death sentence
[14251] 14303, 14321, 14323, 14327, 14341, 14347 [14401]
1:43:21 – 1:44:01: 1:44:01

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p27


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c27

107 (1:47): Death row
[14657] 14713, 14717, 14723, 14731, 14737, 14741, 14747, 14753, 14759 [14813]
1:47:13 – 1:47:59: 1:47:23

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/ass...5&d=1693639473

Interestingly, Onevoice has picked the frame @1:47:59 below:

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p28

That image is not saying much, but I believe he is right in that the image should be the final one of the entire scene. (All other gems are!) In that case, I believe, the scene should run through to its natural conclusion, and the only potential candidate I see on a prime is this one @1:48:31. Maybe another possibility, but I would like to speculate on that later.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/ass...5&d=1693639903


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c28

109 (1:49): Tomb
[14851] 14923, 14929, 14939, 14947, 14951, 14957 [15013]
1:49:23 – 1:50:13: 1:50:13

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p29


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c29

[Karl]

113 (1:53): My God!
[15259] 15307, 15313, 15319, 15329, 15331, 15349, 15359 [15401]
1:53:59 – 1:54:13: 1:54:13

My suggestion for this image was @1:54:13, below:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/ass...5&d=1693709030

Onevoice selected the frame below @1:54:19. Very telling, but not on a prime.
(The nearest primes would be 15413 and 15427 but those images are not convincing to me. The only argument for 15427 would be that the scene switches in that second.)


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p30


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c30

[Karl]

My apologies to Onevoice: I have sent through the wrong number for the 113 (1:53) ‘My God!’ image (15419) which he duly put up on his website.

Let’s finish this. By now you all now how it goes and where to find all the images and clips.

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127 (2:07): What say?
[20641] 20707, 20717, 20719, 20731, 20743, 20747, 20749, 20753, 20759 [20807]
2:07:59 – 2:08:09: 2:08:09

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p31


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c31

131 (2:11): Secrets R Hidden
[21059] 21101, 21107, 21121, 21139, 21143, 21149, 21157 [21211]
2:11:21 – 2:11:43: 2:11:43

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p32


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c32

137 (2:17): Inside-out
[21649] 21701, 21713, 21727, 21737, 21739, 21751, 21757 [21803]
2:16:49 – 2:17:01: 2:17:01

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p33


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c33

139 (2:19): Adulthood
[21859] 21911, 21929, 21937, 21943 [22003]
2:19:11 – 2:19:37: 2:19:37

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p34


https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/c34

149 (2:29): Last image
[22859] 22901, 22907, 22921, 22937, 22943 [23003]
2:29:37 (22937)

https://onevoice13.wixsite.com/onevoice1/p35

[Karl]

In the above posts I have tried to show you that Zemeckis' cryptography key in Contact are prime numbers and I have tried to show you as objectively as possible the subsurface story he is trying to tell you, so you can make up your own mind. Below comes my interpretation, which is unavoidably subjective. I will try to give some 'supporting evidence' for my position, but in the end you will have to study for yourself.

First off: is Zemeckis obsessed with prime numbers? No. Am I? No. It is just one way the 'elite' hides its messages from the 'scum'. (I do not like these generalisations, and definitely not the antagonism they might inspire, but we do not have the space here to explore in depth. So, I hope your understanding will make up for my crude, sketchy generalizations.)

This prime cryptography goes beyond fiction. I am not a math genius, but I know by hard and will never forget that 323467 is a prime number. Why? It has something to do with the Georgia Guidestones. Take some time to figure it out. I will come back to it after the discussion of the Contact Gems. So this is not just about a movie, or a fancy math game. This blends into our reality.

In the Contact subsurface story, I see four main characters playing: Ellie, Palmer, Kitz and Hadden. What do they stand for?

Hadden
The H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, which makes Hadden stand for the cycle, infinity. The figure 8, refers to the lemniscate or analemma, and thus to the cycle of the sun. We touched on that briefly before. Just like the sun, he is circling the earth in the Myr space station. He works behind the scenes and in secret. ("He hardly lands for anyone.") "S R Hadden" obviously means "secrets are hidden". He is filthy rich and runs an industrial empire ("Hadden industries"), referring to the ultra rich running the multinational corporations of this world, those with the '66' logos and related. He is a genius, but he is also old and dying of cancer. What does that have to do with it?
Hadden represents the previous generations (old, dying) of the elite (genius); the top of the top of the pyramid organizations that rule our world and who have kept alive the secrets (hidden) of the old religion (the cycle of the sun) throughout the ages in the face of the ignorance, disinterest, or disbelief of the masses, the 'scum'. They have worked tirelessly behind the scenes to create the 'International Machine Consortium' (IMC) and prepare humanity (the 'elite', that is) for the planetary disaster the old religion says is coming.

Kitz
Where Hadden is the inner circle, Kitz is the outer limit. Two sides of the same coin, really. He is the National Security Adviser, the three-letter agencies of the world. He consistently stands between Ellie and 'the message', and when he cannot overcome her persistence to learn the truth, he positions himself between her and the public: the secret has to remain hidden. The preparations made by the elite to survive the coming planetary disaster cannot accomodate eight billion people, so telling the public might create a panic and jeopardize the preparations for the elite as well. But the secret is sitting in plain sight, only thinly veiled behind simple math. It is as if the elite were saying: "If you cannot add one and one to two, then there is no ticket for you."
(Michael Kitz starts playing an active role around prime 47, interestingly the reverse of his name count, 74. I have no idea what these numbers might mean.)

Palmer
Palmer Josh counts as 64, 8², or 88, death and rebirth. He stands for the soul, faith, religion, believing in yourself and your discoveries. Obviously, he is Ellie's 'twin-opposite'. She is separate from him (herself) at the start of the movie, growing towards him, and finally embracing him. Ellie being reborn in and accepting her new knowledge of the ancient mysteries and what is happening in the world today.

Ellie
The most complex character of the four, by far. Ellie Arroway (57 - no idea) stands for the elite on the 'path of the arrow': from the old to the new, 'crossing the abyss', surviving the planetary disaster. In that role, she is the bright young scientist, a junior Hadden, the new generation of the elite, ready to carry on the 'great work of the ages'. At times too it feels like she is Zemeckis' mouthpiece, trying to warn us, the viewer, of what is coming. But mostly, I identify her with you, the very unique viewer of the movie, about whom Jesus said: "But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear." In that role, she needs an unwavering commitment to search for the truth, no matter what (career, isolation), and the courage to believe in herself and her findings (Palmer).

Next up I will quickly go over the gems one by one with these roles in mind.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Will just leave this here.

Scene at 13mins here:
https://odysee.com/$/embed/Contact-Movie-1997:e



"Compass, for you L"

L + compass=

[Karl]

Most of us will be familiar with the work of Derren Brown, e.g., his magnificent Heist. When studying the Contact gems in detail I was surprised how much subliminal suggestion was going on. I will point out the ones I have noticed.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HDtMMsFoHuY

2 (0:02 / 0:02:57): Space Odyssey

Space Odyssey Pic & Clip

The first image appears @37”, @1’ we’re leaving earth exploring the solar system, from 2’ it goes on to the galaxy. An expansive movement. Mankind stands ready to embark on the Space Odyssey.

3 (0:03 / 0:03:37): Eye-CQ

Eye-CQ Pic & Clip

A contracting movement from the galaxy through the wormhole to the eye. The radio setup (ear) is reflected in the eye. Since 2 and 3 are two primes in a row, one could argue to combine both sequences into a single one.

5 (0:05 / 0:06:01): Childhood

Childhood Pic & Clip

The camera moves from the dark outside, to Ellie’s bright-lit room. Young Ellie does not understand the world yet, but is curious. She wants to talk to further and further places, deepen her understanding. She is associated with the unicorn. Unique-ly intelligent, but also unique in her unwavering commitment to the truth.
Did you notice the Japanese flag on the lamp? (Rewatch the clip.)

7 (0:07 / 0:07:51): Bigger antenna

Bigger antenna Pic & Clip

Ellie switches on the radio (659) and sees her comment (727) transitioning to adult reality (751). Since 5 and 7 are twin primes, here too you could argue two take the two together and analyse this as one big sequence. The relation is clear: she starts on her quest for knowledge and quickly hits the limits of her home setup, her own senses. If she takes her quest for knowledge serious, she will have to put in more than amateurish work.

11 (0:11 / 0:11:09): Little green men

Little green men Pic & Clip

Interesting scene. Everyone comes in, bustling with energy, introducing themselves, but then immediately busy again doing… what, exactly? Euhm (2x) around an ominous silence (1103). They all look up in sequence, staring at Ellie. She stands apart, isolated. She seeks truth above all else, even if that means forsaking a promising career. Her colleagues are nice guys, they just place the here and now, earthly pleasure, above the ‘Quest For Truth’. Stick your head in the sand and don’t rock the boat. Who can blame them? They probably have a wife and kids, a house and mortgage! (Immediately afterwards, the scene switches in a split second: only a few movie frames in the lab sit in the 11:09 second.)
I find this very touching. Look around you in the office/factory, whatever type of work you do. Everybody is running around from meeting to meeting, buried in reports and deadlines. If you ask any questions about the fundamentals of their work or business, you get a blank stare…

[Karl]

13 (0:13 / 0:13:19): Direction

Direction Pic & Clip

Palmer takes out the gadget compass at (1301), starting the sequence. All the clues fall on primes: “A compass” (1307) “You better keep this. It might save your life some (1319) day.” Is this hinting at the freemasonry square and compass, Mark? Why not.
I see Ellie meeting Palmer, her mirror self. If Ellie stands for modern science, observation, hard facts, the mind, then Palmer evokes the old religion, belief, intuition, the heart. Following him – her heart – will give her a sense of direction, a compass, which she will dearly need in her quest for truth.

17 (0:17 / 0:17:23): Nomantic

Nomantic Pic & Clip

A very romantic setting: two young people in love, a starry tropical night, exotic location. Contrast the setting with the dialogue. Ellie is talking about her passion for astronomy, and after 17:23 she starts speculating. But what does Ellie the scientist say about the planet Venus? The message coming from space maybe not romantic at all. Did you notice the paying binocular (eyes) and the very big ear in the background?

19 (0:19 / 0:19:51): Touch

Touch Pic & Clip

The setting is soft, tender and warm. It’s all about togetherness, touching, feeling, the body. Contrast again with the dialogue, which is about the mind and separation: “I am a reasonably intelligent guy (1847), but my intelligence couldn’t even touch (1901???) this.” “I kept asking all these (1907) questions. Where did Mrs. Cain com from? And (1913)…? … He died when I was (1933) nine years old. … Gotta be tough. (1949) Yeah. (1951)”
Their bodies are together, but their minds are separate. Ellie does not believe in herself yet. Asking tough questions sets her apart. Her father died, she is an orphan. How lonely can you be? Did you notice the magazine in the background? “Dificíl”, difficult, tough, touch. On a sky catalogue: what is coming from space.

23 (0:23 / 0:23:57): Understand

Understand Pic & Clip

(2309) white light screen transition, (2341) pastor turns to Ellie. “Ellie? (2347) … We aren’t always meant to know the reason why things happen the way they do.” (2357) “FUNERAL” (2333) sits right in the middle between (2309) and (2357), just as with the suicide pills (103|14331).
“Ellie?” – that is you. Zemeckis calls for your attention. There is/will be a lot of suffering and death, which you do not / will not understand. Ellie the scientist begins to have an inkling about the message coming from space involving death, but she does not understand yet. Ellie the child ‘stands under’ (common law) the adult pastor. It is the pastor taking centre stage at 23:57, not Ellie. This is the first time an authority figure positions himself, very gently, between Ellie and the message. Religious pastor vs. scientific Ellie.

[Karl]

29 (0:29 / 0:29:09): Hearing

Hearing Pic & Clip

Interesting to watch this clip from the original entire movie with a table of primes at hand. (From ~28:44 when she climbs the stairs.) I don’t know how many times 😊 they had to repeat this scene, but if you know what you’re listening to, she is overstressing: time (~2857), contact (2903), key (2909).
I first captioned this ‘Technolo-key’. Technology is the key to not only contact with extraterrestrial life, but to surviving the coming planetary disaster.
Did you notice Hadden on the cover of Time magazine when Ellie enters the building? On very large screens, at least for the nineties. Just before she mentions the word "time". She comes to a hearing, showing the world’s largest ‘ear’. Are you paying attention?

31 (0:31 / 0:31:09): Vision

Vision Pic & Clip

“Look” (3011), “picture” (3019), the technological innovations mentioned, Hadden watching through the security camera, Ellie’s wide open eyes. It all asks for vision. Do you see the big picture? There are a few examples on the walls.

37 (0:37 / 0:38:03): Noise to signal

Noise to signal Pic & Clip

Ellie starts the engine at 3701. If I get the coordinates right, they are: “Right ascension: 18h36’56.2”, Declination: left, 32°46’56.2”. I do not know what these numbers mean. Do you feel the adrenaline rush? She is shouting in a VHF handset and needs you to confirm the ‘coordinates’.
In the image we get a computer screen next to a VHF handset (antenna). Seeing and hearing again. The empire state building (?) on the manual/binder could point to an antenna again, or to the Washington monument, the unification of science and religion, Ellie and Palmer. And the Uni(x) party. Ellie is starting to understand what is happening in this world, she starts hearing the signal through the noise.

41 (0:41 / 0:42:17): Numbers

Numbers Pic & Clip

I am not a radio technician, so may be mistaken with the instruments: (4111) frequency analyser, (4127) computer key stroke, (4129) amplifier, (4133) human intelligence, (4139) human amplifier, (4153) computer analysis, (4159) decoded.
We need technology to understand the secrets of the universe. I first picked the hand-radio image and captioned this ‘techno-sense’. I don’t know what this image is trying to tell us. It might be that this is a twin prime that needs to be analysed together with 43, and thus the entire clip should run up to 43:39.

43 (0:43 / 0:43:39): Primes

Primes Pic & Clip

(4337) “The pulse sequenced through every prime number between 2 and a 101.” (4339). Only 2” of ‘message’ in this minute, in between twin primes. The prime sequence is almost 3” in view, but only a split second in 4337.
Right before that, Ellie walks to the window, watching the giant telescope array, hearing the message. In the lab there are plenty computer screens, seeing. The primes run up to ‘101’: 'basic'. These prime numbers form a very basic encryption key, it is not difficult at all. (Yet I haven’t seen this type of analysis of the movie anywhere else.) But it is still dark outside, she doesn’t understand the message yet.

47 (0:47 / 0:47:23): CQ-rity

CQ-rity Pic & Clip

“If the source of this signal is so sophisticated, why the remedial math? Why don’t they just speak English?” (~44:49) Watch The Walk! “The contents of this message could be extremely sensitive.” (~46:24) “The one with the primes is not the signal. It looks like a TV transmission.” (4723)
They discover the message on the negative side band (4703) and need darkness (blinds, ~47:25) to decipher it. They have to ‘read between the lines’ to understand what is really happening in/to this world. It is light outside: Ellie begins to understand the message. And who shows up? The National Security Adviser, Michael Kitz (74 <-> 47), standing in a defensive posture in between you and the signal/message. (‘CQ-rity’ to link this with the ‘Eye-CQ’. I don’t think this is very relevant.)
These last five minutes gave it away for me. Ellie is listening to the alien signal with prime numbers, we are watching a movie, a ‘TV transmission’. “The one with the primes is not the signal. It looks like a TV transmission.” That means that in the movie could be a message hidden by primes.

[Karl]

53 (0:53 / 0:53:33): Hadden message

Hadden message Pic & Clip

“That signal arrived … of the star (5303) we call Vega. Hugely amplified (5309). Are you ready? Send it, Willy. … Here it comes.” (5333) Ellie, the star, receives and understands the Hadden message, which needs to be hugely amplified to be understood. She is on the phone, watching the message roll in @5333. Seeing and hearing.

59 (0:59 / 0:59:27): Illuminati-on

Illuminati-on Pic & Clip

“More on the quest for the message’s meaning, after this.” (5903) Meaning: the technical details of the alien craft are part of the cover story, but not of the subsurface message. (5923) Opening door. (5925) lights on. (5927) Closing door. You have email. (5939) Incoming message. (5953)
Right before this scene, the researcher ‘doesn’t understand the significance’. It is dark outside, Ellie enters the house, and switches on the light. Clockwise: Ellie gains insight (light switch and lamp) about the message (monitor) from space (poster). No idea what all the supplements/pills are doing there. Is that earth under some kind of meteor shower?
Is this an allusion to Ellie entering (the house=) some pyramid society, e.g., freemasonry? Could be. Again twin primes: maybe need to be analysed together with 61.

61 (1:01 / 1:01:11): Ascension

Ascension Pic & Clip

(10039) scene switch, an airfield at night, a plane ready for take-off, Ellie climbing stairs. “You should be a fortunate. He hardly lands for anyone.” Ascension: “definition: 1. the process of rising to a position of higher importance, rank, or success…”
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...lish/ascension
This could allude to her ascending in the ranks of, e.g., freemasonry. I don’t know.

67 (1:07 / 1:07:11): Simple math

Simple math Pic & Clip

“There it was all the time staring you in the face.” (10657) “Buried within the message itself is the key to decoding it.” Yes, the elite hides what it is doing from public view, but it is only thinly veiled behind simple math. Just as with nature’s secrets, if you have eyes to see and ears to hear, you should be able to decipher them all.

71 (1:11 / 1:11:13): Vindication

Vindication Pic & Clip

“Your discovery, all of this, it must be a real vindication.” Palmer approaching Ellie. She found the key and can start reading the message. Will she believe it? Again twin primes with 73.

73 (1:13 / 1:13:53): Taste

Taste Pic & Clip

“I read your book.” (11311) I know your secret. They are flirting. He was approaching her, now she’s done herself up completely – we only see her like this once in the movie – and is following him outside towards the Washington monument. Science and religion uniting, but not there yet. Ockham’s razor: Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) was my first caption.
They are at a reception in a beautiful setting, everyone is dressed up, drinking champagne and listening to classical music in the background… “The thing that people are most hungry for…” They definitely have good taste.

[Karl]

79 (1:19 / 1:19:29): Intelligence

Intelligence Pic & Clip

The TV interview centres around selecting the candidates: “On what basis do you select a human being to represent humanity?” Ellie points to understanding mathematics, the language of nature. And where do we get the prime accents? Nobel prize winner (11903), beyond our capabilities (11909), ahead of us (11923), intelligence that advanced (11927). Palmer is sitting in his study/library. It all just breathes intelligence.

Space-age humans will be selected for on the basis of intelligence.

83 (1:23 / 1:23:23): Adolescence

Adolescence Pic & Clip

The scene is yet another hearing. “Myself, I have one final question, Dr. Arroway.” (12301) Ellie’s own final question is “How did you survive technological adolescence (12323) without destroying yourself?”

Is this the final question? How do we avoid blowing up our planet with space-age technology? I believe the key here is adolescence: How does an immature species handle a technology that gives them God-like capabilities? Ellie too has grown beyond childhood, committed herself and studied dutifully, and she discovered/received the decryption key. She is now an adolescent ready to see and hear the content of the message itself.

89 (1:29 / 1:29:53): IMC

IMC Pic & Clip

At Cape Canaveral. IMC (12853), Ellie (12911), H-Ellie in view (around 12917) Dr. Arroway (12919) Drumlin (12923), Ellie (12953). And look how many people! Probably the most crowded scene of the entire movie. David has the winged sun on his shirt.

The International Machine Corporation stands for the elite preparing itself for the coming planetary disaster. It is a huge enterprise.

97 (1:37 / 1:37:59): Apocalypse

Apocalypse Pic & Clip

A terrorist attack destroys the first machine, David dies, Ellie in the lab. “For the goodness (13751) of all mankind… the apocalypse (13757)… will vindicate (13759) our faith.” Ellie is in black, mourning David’s death.

For the goodness of all mankind(?) does the ‘elite’ not allow the ‘scum’ access to space-age technology. ‘Sorry, no zero-point energy.’ Why not? Because of the apocalypse they believe is coming. Apo + kálypsis: ‘away from’ + ‘concealment’

101 (1:41 / 1:41:59): Space-ship

Space-ship Pic & Clip

(14107) switches away from machine. “Only, this one can be kept secret.” “Controlled by Americans, built by the Japanese.” “Wanna take a ride?” Magnificent scene transition! Space (1:41:43) Ship. Hadden in space, dying of cancer. Death, again. Dark in space and ship sailing at night: secrecy.

So what is it that, ‘Hadden Industries’, aka the ‘IMC, i.e., the 66-logo multinational corporations of the world have been building in secret? (Taxpayer-funded of course.) A space ship. An entire fleet more probably. Why the Japanese?? I will speculate on that later.

[Karl]

103 (1:43 / 1:44:01): Death sentence

Death sentence Pic & Clip

“Ellie!” (14321) show pills (14327) … wrong (14341), failure, marooned (14347) scene switch (14401)
Ellie = calling your attention. She is given suicide pills: told she is going to die, or more harshly, she is sentenced to death. After we’ve seen David die and Hadden dying, yet more death.

The image in 14401 is evoking a traditional Japanese family altar, e.g.,

And who is this girl praying to? Dead ancestors. (I am no specialist at all in Japanese religion or tradition, so please forgive my ignorance and over generalisations. I am only trying to capture the mood of these images to distil their subliminal message.) Then the camera turns to Ellie in her ship cabin: in her isolation cell on death row.

Again twin primes with 101, so maybe to watch/analyse as a single sequence.

107 (1:47 / 1:47:23): Death row

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/ass...5&d=1694831598
Death row Pic & Clip

Magistral! Executioners by her side, she starts crossing (14713), switch camera middle of crossing (14723), execution chair (14731 and 14737), end crossing (14741), hooked up (14747), locked (14759).
Ellie, the viewer, is being executed. So, ‘Execution’ could have been a more apt caption than ‘Death row’. Also exactly which image stands out here is not that clear to me. Compared to other gems, it should be the final one of the sequence. I do not see what that could be in this case, so I picked the middle of the crossing.

I believe ‘crossing the abyss’ is the main theme. For the unprepared that means certain death, for the prepared elite it is a ‘suicide mission’ that ‘requires a sense of adventure’. (See 79 Intelligence)

109 (1:49 / 1:50:13): Tomb

Tomb Pic & Clip

What is happening here? Control room operators are going through an entire checklist while the machine doors close. The final image is dark and dull compared to all the others. To me this is a bunker, long planned for, well prepared and stocked with all necessary supplies. A second preparation, in addition to the space fleet. My first caption was DUMB: Deep Underground Military Basis.

Funnily enough, totally out of context, the blind Kent is sniffing Kitz (14929). “Nice to smell you again Mr. Kitz.” “I wouldn’t take him as a Polo man.” I did not understand the comment, but then I am not (at all) into fragrances, cosmetics, fashion etc… Ralph Lauren Polo Green perfume. Smell was the fifth sense, still missing.

113 (1:53): My God!

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/ass...5&d=1694832203
My God! Pic & Clip

“We go for ignition” (15259) “We have auxiliary booster ignition.” (15307) “My God!” (15413)

Often words in these gem-minutes are mentioned twice to catch the attention. Here? Ignition. There are strong vibrations and G-levels, structural instability and light flashes. It is not sure if Ellie or the machine will hold out.

“My God!” (15413) Very succinct, to the point, well said. The supreme god of the old mystery religion is the 'Sol Invictus', the invincible sun. And what happens to our sun (15407)? Ignition! That would be Douglas Vogt's and Ben Davidson's micronova. Check them out: Ben and Doug, they are worth your time.

The elite at a safe distance in their techno-environment (spaceship/DUMB) watching the micronova and the resulting ‘structural instability’ on earth and the consequences for humanity (Ellie). It is not sure if she will make it. This is the final part of 'the message' and the very core of it.

[Karl]

Sorry for the delay and for the glitches in the previous post. Let's finalize this part.

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127 (2:07 / 2:08:09): What say?

What say? Pic & Clip

“What day is this?” “I’m sorry, Ellie.” (20743) “Did you say what day?” (20747) (2x) Scene switch. “I did!” (20759) “That’s what I’ve been trying to tell everybody.” Head(20809)set

Ellie is depicted as a mentally ill patient, helplessly locked up in an isolation cell. She is being monitored, quite literally, on screen, through glass and notes are kept. The national security advisor is there with a lot of support staff. Ellie is again alone, separated.

You cannot tell the public any details of the coming event (‘what day?’). You will be dealt with according to your status and expected allegiance to the system. As an example from another field, science, if you have received a Nobel prize, you have to continue to toe the line. Catching ‘Nobel disease’ is very dangerous, e.g., Kary Mullis or Luc Montagnier.

131 (2:11 / 2:11:43): Secrets R Hidden

Secrets R Hidden Pic & Clip

“Impossible!” (x3) (21121), scene switch, “Hadden?” (21139), “SR Hadden” (21143), scene switch.

The setting is yet another hearing/inquiry, with the purpose of establishing ‘the truth’, revealing secrets. Michael Kitz keeping the lid on. Look at his victorious smile.

The security system making sure that the Hadden (elite) secrets are/remain hidden.

137 (2:17 / 2:17:01): Inside-out

Inside-out Pic & Clip

Ellie and Palmer leaving the Capitol building to face the Washington monument, shot right in between them. Unity of science and (old) religion, seeing and hearing (and believing) the message. You have to turn things inside-out, upside-down to understand them, searching enlightenment/the light. Bringing darkness to light. I had first captioned this image ‘Mystery Religion’.

139 (2:19 / 2:19:37): Adulthood

Adulthood Pic & Clip

“You can see over there.” (21911) “Hear farther into space than anybody’s ever heard before.” “Are there other people in the universe?” (21929), “That’s a good question.”

Did you hear the 'see-gull' at the opening of the scene? I thought we were in a desert.

Ellie is not looking at the child, she looks over its head, beyond the child. She now knows and accepts the secret message. She is an adult now with eyes to see and ears to hear. And so are you.

149 (2:29 / 2:29:37): Last image


Last image Pic & Clip

Nothing but a check digit: 229(00) after the first image, prime of course. This settles the runtime discussion as well. :-) And exactly 1,000 + 2:19:37 (Adulthood), which draws our attention to a very interesting set of primes:
21859, …, 21937, 21943, 22003
22859, …, 22937, 22943, 23003

[Karl]

To illustrate that the use of prime numbers as an encryption key or signature is not some fetish of mine or Zemeckis, have a look at the surveilance video of the Georgia Guidestones explosion, released by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HKDu_4ioXwA

Have you noticed the prominent timestamp on the video? When does it start running?

The month, July, 7, is prime.
The day-month, 67, is prime.
The hour-dm, 467, is prime.
The minute-hdm, 3467, is prime.
The seconds-mhdm, 323467, is prime.

I know that series by hard, but please do check for yourself.

That is not a coincidence; it's a signature.

[Karl]

*Edited: Avalon images attached.*

I would like to wrap this up in a few more posts. Some thoughts on BTTF II and III, and speculation about Japan. I just rewatched most of BTTF II (download link valid for 7 days?), kindly shared higher up in the thread. Or you can watch some clips here.

I have not done a similar analysis of BTTF as of Contact, but some timings are highly suspicious, which suggest that (1) Zemeckis is using some type of coding system in BTTF as well and (2) that the copy shared above should be adequate for this type of analysis. Have a go, if you like.

Just a recap: we have been living through the first future scenario, have seen the 'needles scam' unfold and the Georgia Guidestones coming down. 'They have served their purpose as a warning, now it's time to roll.' We are at the beginning of the second scenario, which I believe may start to unfold around New Year 2024. But as of today, that still lies in the future. Caveat lector.

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The second future scenario portrayed in BTTF II starts around 38:30 in the movie, when Marty and Doc fly back 'home' to 1985 after the old Biff Tannen has just returned to 2015 and dies. When they arrive there, the young Biff has been using his sports almanac since the late fifties to amass a gambling fortune as 'the luckiest man in the world'. The second future scenario runs up to 1:01:27, but the strongest impressions come in up to 46:13.

What do we see? Many damaged cars, window bars, graffiti, stray dogs, locked gate, baseball bat self defence, "I ain't selling" (his house), burned out car, many houses for sale, litter, police emergency, gun self defence, drive-by shooting, biker gangs, prostitutes, homelessness, sex shows, heavily armed police, military (tank) in the street. (I like this one: (4414) bond(s) - age (4416)!!)

That looks like a state of emergency to me. Mad Max and The Purge come to mind as well. The depression (financial deflation) must be terrible for so many people to want to sell their houses, and so many women prostituting themselves.

At 41:39 (41 and 4139 are prime) Marty stops in the street to look at the death markings. Death will become ubiquitous. My reading is that the covid time-delay-death-jabs have done their incubation time and are now ready to wreak havoc. (As worldwide health statistics are already showing.) But violent deaths seem to be part of the picture too.

At 43:39 (43 and 4339 are prime) Biff has become president. Interestingly, BTTF II did not predict the Trump presidency, which would fall in the first future scenario, but predicts an important role for Biff/Trump in the second future scenario. The January 6 vaudeville certainly seems to be pointing in that direction.


However bad the second future scenario is, to me it is not the worst message / most important scene of BTTF II. What is then? The switchover to the final scene!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jMT2uGuVqi8

At 1:37:00 (37 and 137 are prime) we see a big light flash after a lightning strike and in the same second a scene switch to an inverted "66". ('Yes, you have seen that correctly, and no, it is no coincidence.') 1:37:37 - Even more emphasis on 37. - has the party flags down. The party is over. (If there is much of a party left by then.) The lightning strike sends Doc back to the Wild West in 1885.


Light Flash @1:37:00


Inverted 66 @1:37:00


The party is over. @1:37:3

To me, this would be some kind of Carrington Event impacting our earth with a heavily weakened magnetic field. Not yet the 'My God!' solar micronova from Contact, but still, this would fry all tech, down the grids, end industrial manufacturing, energy production and distribution. In short, we would be catapulted back to 1885. After you have survived all the madness and violence, good luck dealing with that. I think percentage wise, more people will die at that point than before. (But maybe not in actual numbers.)

All of these actions take place at the entry gate to the lyons estate, which refers to Aker, the underworld, and the path of the sun. Paul A. LaViolette (RIP), explains The Meaning of the Sphinx Stargate on his website, Etheric.com.


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Some more suspicious prime times:

5101: George McFly's gravestone. No, I don't know what happened March 15, 1973. Do you? Please, let me know. George was born on April fools' day and was murdered on the Ides of March, just as Julius Caesar. His middle name was Douglas. I have no idea what any of this means, but it seems to be important.


12329 time reset and scene switch.

I do not know what these dates mean. Again, probably some meaning connected to it, just as the time travel dates from BTTF I are connected with the Gunpowder Plot. Read about that and much more, archived here.



14029 "There's only one man who can help me." 14033 Doc and the clock. 14051 lightning.

[onevoice]

Karl, thanks so much for all the uncountable hours you have spent in analyzing these Zemeckis movies. All of the BTTF movies can be watched here, as well as The Walk and the Contact, although no closed captions are enabled in the referenced link.

There are so much hidden messages in these movies that it is quite difficult for most of us to unpack and decipher, especially if one has not read up on how the ultra secret societies and the global elites have been carrying out their hidden agenda. Also unless one is really paying attention, it is noy easy to find the hidden messages as Zemeckis has been quite clever in hiding them.

I'm starting to see anecdotal evidence that slowly people are starting to be awakened to the truth of what has been going on in recent USA history at least. For example, I've met numerous strangers who have said that they know the 911 was pre-planned inside job.

That being said, many people seem quite reluctant to spend extra hours looking into these hidden message for variety of reason. For example, I suggested to my best friend that there are lot of hidden messages in the Contact movie, but he has not bothered to even try to see them.

There are numerous threads on PA about so many treacherous future paths for the humanity in the next few decades ahead of us, so personally I feel it would be beneficial to study any credible sources of information about the big picture view of the future humanity faces.

Lastly, one thing you haven't discussed is in the opening sequence of Contact, we cruise by what I presume to be a drastically changed future Earth where the main geographical features of USA is substantially changed. There is a huge waterway running through the middle of continental USA that is presently not there. I've heard of many prophesies that the coastlines of USA will drastically shrink in the future. I've been wondering what the timeline of this changes might be.

[Karl]

Onevoice, thank you so much for your support in presenting this material.

That being said, many people seem quite reluctant to spend extra hours looking into these hidden message for variety of reason. For example, I suggested to my best friend that there are lot of hidden messages in the Contact movie, but he has not bothered to even try to see them.

Indeed, it is impossible to wake people up, to open their eyes. That is their own responsibility. Which is why I post my findings on this forum. If it resonates with you, fine, if not, just move on. But at least we try to keep an open mind and make sense of our experience here on earth, i.e., we are searching for 'the truth'.

Lastly, one thing you haven't discussed is in the opening sequence of Contact, we cruise by what I presume to be a drastically changed future Earth where the main geographical features of USA is substantially changed. There is a huge waterway running through the middle of continental USA that is presently not there. I've heard of many prophesies that the coastlines of USA will drastically shrink in the future. I've been wondering what the timeline of this changes might be.

Thanks for pointing this out. I rewatched the Contact opening sequence. What I believe to see is a large lingering cloud, not a waterway. But why not? Maybe it is a subliminal hint at a changing coastline. I honestly don't know. (I do believe coastlines will change during/after the micronova event due to mega tsunamis a.o., but that is subject matter for another tread.)

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I want to dwell a little longer on the second future of BTTF II, particularly on timing. (Sorry if this is a bit off topic.)

We will be going through a collapse scenario instead of growth. Plenty of good reading on that topic, e.g. the work of The Automatic Earth and Nicole Foss.), The Great Wave (more scholarly) by David Hackett Fischer, or Club Orlov by Dmitry Orlov, who writes more from a practical point of view.

Dr. Rima Laibow refers to this period as 'The Great Culling', when 90% of the 'herd' will be 'culled'. She had a 'conspiracy' website up on chemtrails, vaccines etc., but I can't find it now. (Her old-age love, Albert Stubblebine, was a high military brass intel, probably killed for his outspoken views. His wikipedia page is probably tainted/slandered.)

Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/iOwA1BsGwRbi


Klaus Schwab and his WEF, of course, call it the 'Great Reset'. By 2030 you will 'own nothing and be happy'. Well, at least for 90% of the 'herd' that seems plausible. I for one do not want to go into the afterlife like the pharaos with a suit of followers and plenty of stuff.

At least one researcher claims (private forum) the seven-year Tribulation has started this Jewish New Year, 2023, which would align nicely with the WEF's 2030.
(cf. Wikipedia, Matthew 24, 3.5 vs. 7y)

Now, contrast this with Martin Armstrong's Economic Confidence Model.
Marty wrote a computer program to conduct market/trading analysis and let it loose on the world. He fed it all market data he could find and compile, back into antiquity, and out came very long cycles. He is imho the greatest economic forecaster of our times. If you want to read years ahead about the political and economic trends in motion, read his blog, buy some books or reports, e.g., The Next Jihad, and sign up for a basic Socrates membership, definitely if you are into the money game. He is very much worth your time and attention. (If you don't want to spend money on his reports or books, just follow his blog where most of their content comes through over time in bits and pieces.)

Socrates predicts WWIII starting somewhere between 2024 and 2027, an economic-political implosion of the West and the failure of Schwab's New World Order. After 2032 a new political system will emerge, and the financial capital of the world will move to China. BTTF II, however, predicts a lot of misery and turmoil, but not WWIII. At least, that is I how I see it.

Socrates has pointed out that the 2015 zero interest rates on bonds have never been seen in 6,000 years of human history, the 'peak in government'. Likewise, locking up the healthy population in face of a (fake) epidemy has also been unprecedented. Throughout history, always the sick have been isolated. Maybe, it's database of 6,000 years is not large enough and it is missing something. E.g., planetary motions are not included. I suggest that there are still longer cycles at play (6-12ky solar micronova) and that maybe somewhere in the middle of all this chaos - 2027??? - we jump into the alternate reality of BTTF III.

[Karl]

Sorry for the long absence.

Here is a download link for BTTF III (5 days valid or so). It is apparently a BluRay-rip; the quality is good, but especially important: the timing is correct. My suggestion is to watch it in full while I get my thoughts ready in Avalon forum format. I am partially posting this today to force me to get a first post ready by the weekend.

Enjoy the cover story, and maybe make some notes. Could be fun to compare afterwards.

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by Karl (here)
Sorry for the long absence.

Here is a download link for BTTF III (5 days valid or so). It is apparently a BluRay-rip; the quality is good, but especially important: the timing is correct. My suggestion is to watch it in full while I get my thoughts ready in Avalon forum format. I am partially posting this today to force me to get a first post ready by the weekend.

Enjoy the cover story, and maybe make some notes. Could be fun to compare afterwards.

Hi Karl. Glad to see you back, and I look forward to your notes on it.

I am hesitant to click on your link. And I don’t know how to properly ask you how to assure me it’s legit.

I think I might share some genes with Biff, and that’s what bugs me about those movies. He doesn’t ever learn lol.