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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Snake Venom doesn't harm snakes.

    How 'race' specific is THAT ?

    A mind boggling quandary. Who are the hybrids ?
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Thank you everyone for all the information posted. After listening to the latest video here with even more information added and how nicotine worked etc. it reminded me of a dream I had last week. I had been handed two large clear plastic bags of gum containing small square packets inside. Upon awaking in the morning I wondered why was I dreaming about chewing gum since it has been decades since I have even had any in my possession. When I watched the video I wondered when Dr. Ardis was talking about nicotine gum if it was some kind of message I received for a good reason, as that happens to me regularly.



    I went to the pharmacy and bought some of the gum yesterday and it is formed in these small squares. I bought the 4 mg size and today tried it thinking to start with that as 7 mg daily was recommended in the video for 6 days. I have never been a smoker and I need to warn anyone trying nicotine that 4 mg has a very strong effect and it was way too much to start out with as I got so light headed very quickly and thought I would pass out and I need to lay down for 1/2 an hour and many hours later still feel strange effects from it. I will try a fraction of a piece manybe 1/8 of the 4 gm piece next time and see how that goes. Having more of the vegetables containing nicotine would be the best long term way to keep well I think.

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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Keep in mind that there is an ongoing plan to remove nicotine from availability. Many countries are talking about being 'tobacco free' by 2030.

    If you can find nicotine gum or patches in the shops, grab them fast, I expect them to vanish.

    Growing your own tobacco is tricky but technically still legal in the UK.

    https://tobaccoplants.co.uk/faq.html...%20be%20smoked.
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Quote Posted by Harmony (here)
    Thank you everyone for all the information posted. After listening to the latest video here with even more information added and how nicotine worked etc. it reminded me of a dream I had last week. I had been handed two large clear plastic bags of gum containing small square packets inside. Upon awaking in the morning I wondered why was I dreaming about chewing gum since it has been decades since I have even had any in my possession. When I watched the video I wondered when Dr. Ardis was talking about nicotine gum if it was some kind of message I received for a good reason, as that happens to me regularly.



    I went to the pharmacy and bought some of the gum yesterday and it is formed in these small squares. I bought the 4 mg size and today tried it thinking to start with that as 7 mg daily was recommended in the video for 6 days. I have never been a smoker and I need to warn anyone trying nicotine that 4 mg has a very strong effect and it was way too much to start out with as I got so light headed very quickly and thought I would pass out and I need to lay down for 1/2 an hour and many hours later still feel strange effects from it. I will try a fraction of a piece manybe 1/8 of the 4 gm piece next time and see how that goes. Having more of the vegetables containing nicotine would be the best long term way to keep well I think.
    Beautiful communication with your higher self Harmony.. I love when that happens. These sort of coincidences have happened to me many times in my life and it's always a mind boggling moment... I am glad you shared this.

    Even though I resisted disturbing my peace last night, I went ahead and pushed through on the "Watch the water" Part 1 and 2... Many thoughts on it all, not many I want to share.. Overall, I think he's on the right track of inquiry. The way he researches reminds me of how I like to research. Create the line of inquiry and just go for the jugular and find out. Keep going.. and keep going.. until a picture begins to form. I'm sure many people think he's just connecting dots where there's none to be connected. I don't think that's true.. It takes a certain type of soul to keep pushing forward with intuition balanced with logic.

    I was researching EDTA years ago and never quite got started on it. I still have it at my house from Arizona Naturals. The idea of EDTA also wiping away essential minerals in my body sort of spooked me. At the time, I tried researching a good source of minerals to replenish but felt uneasy about how pure the sources were. My feeling is that these evil people have their fingers in every pie. So why wouldn't they also have their fingers in the health industry, trying to taint the very products that people are attempting to take to escape their grasp? Why is no one talking about this very real possibility? How do I KNOW that the EDTA I buy is truly pure and not tainted by the pharmaceutical companies? Can the trendy health brands that sell it actually ENSURE that whoever they bought it from isn't also corrupt?

    These are the questions that kept me up last night. My thinking is that EDTA orally may be less traumatizing on the body than through an IV. It's a slower process, and maybe that's for the best. Slower is normally healthier than quick fast results. Too fast, and the body could sort of react harshly I would think. I read that an entire month of Oral EDTA is the equivalent to perhaps one session of the IV EDTA.

    If anyone has any recommendations on a truly pure source of minerals to take during the replenishing process, or a very pure source of EDTA, please share. Too nervous to try the Nicotine and am truly afraid of how my body might react. My intution is telling me to juice organic beets.. Lots of organic beets. That's what I've doing the last year and it helps tremendously with symptoms. I also added herbal recipes I use to Avalon some time ago and I still stand by those as being immensely healing.

    ETA: Regarding nicotine. Silly question perhaps, but has anyone considered just making a concoction of Tobacco itself and making a tea of it? Seems like the more wholesome way to get the nicotine. I know nothing about tobacco so I have no idea if that would be safe or not.
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Quote Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)

    ETA: Regarding nicotine. Silly question perhaps, but has anyone considered just making a concoction of Tobacco itself and making a tea of it? Seems like the more wholesome way to get the nicotine. I know nothing about tobacco so I have no idea if that would be safe or not.
    I'm asking myself the same question. I know tobacco is very high in nicotine but I don't know what else is in it. I DO know that a lot of the chemicals in cigarettes didn't get in there from the tobacco. If doable it would have to be using the raw plant material not something that's been processed into a smoking product.

    I recently heard Dr Russell Blaylock say that as well as the chemicals they have added to tobacco for decades they are now adding even more. He calls them excitotoxins.
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

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    Quote Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)

    ETA: Regarding nicotine. Silly question perhaps, but has anyone considered just making a concoction of Tobacco itself and making a tea of it? Seems like the more wholesome way to get the nicotine. I know nothing about tobacco so I have no idea if that would be safe or not.
    I'm asking myself the same question. I know tobacco is very high in nicotine but I don't know what else is in it. I DO know that a lot of the chemicals in cigarettes didn't get in there from the tobacco. If doable it would have to be using the raw plant material not something that's been processed into a smoking product.

    I recently heard Dr Russell Blaylock say that as well as the chemicals they have added to tobacco for decades they are now adding even more. He calls them excitotoxins.
    Time to buy some heirloom Tobacco seeds I think..
    https://strictlymedicinalseeds.com/p...seeds-organic/
    I decided to check Strictly Medicinal here in Oregon. Rico is one of my favorite herbalists in Williams, Oregon; a very wise human that has more old world plant knowledge than anyone I've ever met.. I'll be purchasing these today and giving it a try. I don't trust the patches or the gum because I cannot guarantee the purity from these labs..

    Per the website: " Leaves have a very high nicotine content. A fast-growing heirloom ".

    ETA: After further research, there may be too many psycho-active compounds in it.. I'm not recommending this to anyone necessarily but think it's worth trying. "Quora" and other "fact checkers" say "Too toxic to ingest nicotine in this fashion"; but then many studies show that this isn't true at all. As we know from the "Watch the water" series, there is constant attack on remedies that actually fight the C19 and the associated vaccines.. Remember all the "It's toxic" propaganda that went on with Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, etc..
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Not many would understand that POV, but I share it...

    Quote Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)

    Dear Mother-God save us all and unleash all that you have upon this world.. I would rather die in a geologic catastrophic event than to be converted into what they're planning..
    Taking in nicotine via the patch might be less challenging, since it bypasses the digestive system.
    I wonder if there might be a homeopathic remedy....
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    I went to the pharmacy and bought some of the gum yesterday and it is formed in these small squares. I bought the 4 mg size and today tried it thinking to start with that as 7 mg daily was recommended in the video for 6 days. I have never been a smoker and I need to warn anyone trying nicotine that 4 mg has a very strong effect and it was way too much to start out with as I got so light headed very quickly and thought I would pass out and I need to lay down for 1/2 an hour and many hours later still feel strange effects from it. I will try a fraction of a piece manybe 1/8 of the 4 gm piece next time and see how that goes. Having more of the vegetables containing nicotine would be the best long term way to keep well I think.
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    After further research, there may be too many psycho-active compounds in it.. I'm not recommending this to anyone necessarily but think it's worth trying. "Quora" and other "fact checkers" say "Too toxic to ingest nicotine in this fashion"; but then many studies show that this isn't true at all. As we know from the "Watch the water" series, there is constant attack on remedies that actually fight the C19 and the associated vaccines.. Remember all the "It's toxic" propaganda that went on with Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, etc..
    I believe, from things I've heard over the years that the best knowledge to tap into about tobacco will be the native Americans. If they were to say don't eat it, I wouldn't, and visa versa.

    People DO chew it though.
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

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    Quote Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)

    After further research, there may be too many psycho-active compounds in it.. I'm not recommending this to anyone necessarily but think it's worth trying. "Quora" and other "fact checkers" say "Too toxic to ingest nicotine in this fashion"; but then many studies show that this isn't true at all. As we know from the "Watch the water" series, there is constant attack on remedies that actually fight the C19 and the associated vaccines.. Remember all the "It's toxic" propaganda that went on with Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, etc..
    I believe, from things I've heard over the years that the best knowledge to tap into about tobacco will be the native Americans. If they were to say don't eat it, I wouldn't, and visa versa.

    People DO chew it though.
    I've been aggressively looking into it this morning. I have found many articles which suggest they indeed did drink it without problem. Amazonian healers do as well.

    I found this fascinating anecdotal story and thought I'd share.. Not saying "hey do it!" based off of this, but my intuition is saying it probably isn't toxic to try as a light tea. Undoubtedly, this person is using organic heirloom material and not the Commercial type that is loaded up with over 300+ known artificially added chemicals which all cause cancer amongst other horrible things.

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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    This paper is likely one of the early on reports that Dr. Ardis is referring to in "The Antidote"

    Nicotine and SARS-CoV-2: COVID-19 may be a disease of the nicotinic cholinergic system
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

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    Thank you everyone for all the information posted. After listening to the latest video here with even more information added and how nicotine worked etc. it reminded me of a dream I had last week. I had been handed two large clear plastic bags of gum containing small square packets inside. Upon awaking in the morning I wondered why was I dreaming about chewing gum since it has been decades since I have even had any in my possession. When I watched the video I wondered when Dr. Ardis was talking about nicotine gum if it was some kind of message I received for a good reason, as that happens to me regularly.



    I went to the pharmacy and bought some of the gum yesterday and it is formed in these small squares. I bought the 4 mg size and today tried it thinking to start with that as 7 mg daily was recommended in the video for 6 days. I have never been a smoker and I need to warn anyone trying nicotine that 4 mg has a very strong effect and it was way too much to start out with as I got so light headed very quickly and thought I would pass out and I need to lay down for 1/2 an hour and many hours later still feel strange effects from it. I will try a fraction of a piece manybe 1/8 of the 4 gm piece next time and see how that goes. Having more of the vegetables containing nicotine would be the best long term way to keep well I think.
    @Harmony- I bought the 2mg nicotine gum and chewed for 11-14 minute and then spit it out (3x per day). In another video, Dr Ardis disclosed that his wife used a similar nicotine gum protocol. After about 12 minutes of chewing the 2mg gum, I can feel a slight headache in the back of my head. I'm guessing the nicotine is parking itself into the receptors in my brain stem.

    BTW, I'm sensitive to dyes, colors and sweeteners, and I discovered that ALMOST ALL of the retail versions of nicotine gum have horrible additives like aspartame and others. I found this Rite-Aid version on Amazon and it has the least offensive "inactive ingredients".

    I have not finished Dr Ardis' latest interview, but does he address the issue of "mopping" up any free floating spike/venom?

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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Dr Ardis used to be a frequent guest on Ba'al Busters podcast and still does turn up there. That's mostly how I kept track of his work over the last year or so.

    This is a list in reverse chronological order of the episodes. It's easy to scroll down and see all the Dr Ardis sessions including shared ones and including Q&A with listeners, sometimes.

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    I remember the time he spoke about a 10 year study of a particular brand of Statin that was called off after 5 years with a recommendation to pull it off the market. When I mentioned it to my doctor he'd never heard of the study and couldn't believe it was true. That told me how boxed in and censored the official channels to the National Health doctors are.
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    It's clear now why the Native Americans consider tobacco to be such good medicine!
    Ardis recommends using the nicotine patch, 7mg. nicotine per day.
    I just ordered this from WalMart:
    Rugby Step 2 Clear Nicotine Transdermal System Stop Smoking Aid, 14 mg, 14 Count for $28.99.
    It is the kind he recommended, though he got his from Amazon.
    Ardis says he cuts each 14 mg.patch in half and uses one per day, though that might be overkill.
    I imagine that any changes would be most noticeable when it is first put to use.
    Mine is not due to arrive until the 16th, but I will report how I feel once I've used it for a while.
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Random thoughts here on the video posted in comment #110..... I watched it all.

    1. Glutathione, vit c, NAC, and EDTA all seem to have a positive effect on whatever we are dealing.
    2. I have used 2 MG nicotine gum and chew it only for about two minutes as nictotine gum is strong if you body is not used to nicotine.
    3. I do not buy stuff from Etsy sellers but probably should - in any case, there are many tobacco sellers who seem to offer a more pure product.
    4. On Psy Ops like the V and the V, one of the strategies is to bury the real truths about what is happening by letting a cottage industry of "conspiracy theorists" grow when those theories take people in the wrong direction. IMO such is the case here about the V and the V. Ardis has been ridiculed a good bit on his theories as it is out of the norm of what most "free thinkers" are thinking about.
    5. Ardis said that many more water systems are now being "tested" by the CDC that three years ago. Interesting.
    6. Finally, it find it curious that Ardis tried for two years to get his wife to try nicotine for her covid brain fog but she would not do it. Certainly she knew how much work he had put into this, and after all, it was her father's death that made Ardis go in this direction. I find that very curious for some reason.

    Thank you for all those who are sharing their thoughts here....
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It's clear now why the Native Americans consider tobacco to be such good medicine!
    Ardis recommends using the nicotine patch, 7mg. nicotine per day.
    I just ordered this from WalMart:
    Rugby Step 2 Clear Nicotine Transdermal System Stop Smoking Aid, 14 mg, 14 Count for $28.99.
    It is the kind he recommended, though he got his from Amazon.
    Ardis says he cuts each 14 mg.patch in half and uses one per day, though that might be overkill.
    I imagine that any changes would be most noticeable when it is first put to use.
    Mine is not due to arrive until the 16th, but I will report how I feel once I've used it for a while.
    Quote Posted by Kuperkai (here)

    I have not finished Dr Ardis' latest interview, but does he address the issue of "mopping" up any free floating spike/venom?
    Onawah,
    I don't get it? As a diehard member of this Avalon site, you actually got the Covid Vax!? Or did you just get a severe episode with Covid, and still are suffering?

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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    To be a little more clear. Dr Ardis is not saying nicotine clears the poison out of our bodies. It only stops it from attaching to the receptors by pre occupation of those receptors.

    The Glutathione, Vic C, and EDTA are for neutralising the poison but that may not be removing it, either.
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    No, I haven't had a cold or flu in over a decade, and it was years before that that I had either. I practice a lot of prevention!
    And I've been an anti-vaxxer for an even longer time.
    If you read the interview with Dr. Ardis, you will know that he suspects (with good reason) that synthetic snake venom is being put in the water, and I suspect (with good reason) that it is also part of the chemtrail cocktail.
    Nicotine is the remedy Ardis is recommending for preventing the harm that snake venom causes.
    In any case, the vaxxed are shedding and so the unvaxxed can be contaminated just by casual contact with them.
    Dr. Ana Mihalcea has demonstrated through her research on the blood of the vaxxed and the unvaxxed that both are contaminated with self-replicating nanotechnology, and so EDTA and other heavy metal detox agents are also being recommended.
    I've been taking Spirulina (Biolumina brand is the best, I think) consistently and adding fresh aloe vera gel to my morning smoothies for many years, and both are good for detoxing heavy metals, Spirulina helps create new stem cells, and aloe is anti-viral, anti-fungal and anti-bacterial, so I attribute my strong immune system to that in good measure.

    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It's clear now why the Native Americans consider tobacco to be such good medicine!
    Ardis recommends using the nicotine patch, 7mg. nicotine per day.
    I just ordered this from WalMart:
    Rugby Step 2 Clear Nicotine Transdermal System Stop Smoking Aid, 14 mg, 14 Count for $28.99.
    It is the kind he recommended, though he got his from Amazon.
    Ardis says he cuts each 14 mg.patch in half and uses one per day, though that might be overkill.
    I imagine that any changes would be most noticeable when it is first put to use.
    Mine is not due to arrive until the 16th, but I will report how I feel once I've used it for a while.
    Quote Posted by Kuperkai (here)

    I have not finished Dr Ardis' latest interview, but does he address the issue of "mopping" up any free floating spike/venom?
    Onawah,
    I don't get it? As a diehard member of this Avalon site, you actually got the Covid Vax!? Or did you just get a severe episode with Covid, and still are suffering?
    Last edited by onawah; 9th October 2023 at 22:09.
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    I should add that Dr. Mihalcea has also found the self-replicating nano-technology in a wild squirrel, so that is more evidence that it is being spread via the environment.
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    No, I haven't had a cold or flu in over a decade, and it was years before that that I had either. I practice a lot of prevention!
    And I've been an anti-vaxxer for an even longer time.
    If you read the interview with Dr. Ardis, you will know that he suspects (with good reason) that synthetic snake venom is being put in the water, and I suspect (with good reason) that it is also part of the chemtrail cocktail.
    Nicotine is the remedy Ardis is recommending for preventing the harm that snake venom causes.
    In any case, the vaxxed are shedding and so the unvaxxed can be contaminated just by casual contact with them.
    Dr. Ana Mihalcea has demonstrated through her research on the blood of the vaxxed and the unvaxxed that both are contaminated with self-replicating nanotechnology, and so EDTA and other heavy metal detox agents are also being recommended.
    I've been taking Spirulina (Biolumina brand is the best, I think) consistently and adding fresh aloe vera gel to my morning smoothies for many years, and both are good for detoxing heavy metals, Spirulina helps create new stem cells, and aloe is anti-viral, anti-fungal and anti-bacterial, so I attribute my strong immune system to that in good measure.

    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It's clear now why the Native Americans consider tobacco to be such good medicine!
    Ardis recommends using the nicotine patch, 7mg. nicotine per day.
    I just ordered this from WalMart:
    Rugby Step 2 Clear Nicotine Transdermal System Stop Smoking Aid, 14 mg, 14 Count for $28.99.
    It is the kind he recommended, though he got his from Amazon.
    Ardis says he cuts each 14 mg.patch in half and uses one per day, though that might be overkill.
    I imagine that any changes would be most noticeable when it is first put to use.
    Mine is not due to arrive until the 16th, but I will report how I feel once I've used it for a while.
    Quote Posted by Kuperkai (here)

    I have not finished Dr Ardis' latest interview, but does he address the issue of "mopping" up any free floating spike/venom?
    Onawah,
    I don't get it? As a diehard member of this Avalon site, you actually got the Covid Vax!? Or did you just get a severe episode with Covid, and still are suffering?
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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It's clear now why the Native Americans consider tobacco to be such good medicine!
    Ardis recommends using the nicotine patch, 7mg. nicotine per day.
    I just ordered this from WalMart:
    Rugby Step 2 Clear Nicotine Transdermal System Stop Smoking Aid, 14 mg, 14 Count for $28.99.
    It is the kind he recommended, though he got his from Amazon.
    Ardis says he cuts each 14 mg.patch in half and uses one per day, though that might be overkill.
    I imagine that any changes would be most noticeable when it is first put to use.
    Mine is not due to arrive until the 16th, but I will report how I feel once I've used it for a while.
    As someone who has never smoked and is sensitive to chemicals in general, I decided to go with nicotine gum over using a patch, because I've read that cutting patches can effect skin absorption rate as well as the potency of the remaining patch. My point is purely educational, and everyone needs to make their own decisions.

    Here are some of the relevant sources I found:

    Quote Is It Safe to Cut Transdermal Patches? | GoodRx.com
    Decades of science and research go into making transdermal patches safe and effective. The way the medication is stored inside them helps to ensure that you get the proper dose over a certain period of time. So if you cut a patch, you can damage the materials that guard how that process works. This could result in all of the medication being released at once. This can cause serious harm or even death from an overdose of medication.
    As a disclaimer, I have not instigated the science of nicotine patches. That said, I imagine that the medication is sandwiched between two layers- a non-permeable exterior and a permeable interior- with a sealed perimeter to prevent oxidation and interactions with the environment. When you cut the patch in half, medicine could leak out the cut edge at a faster rate than the permeable layer next to your skin. Additionally, the cut edge provides a path for environmental interactions with the medicine.

    Quote Can You Cut Nicotine Transdermal Patches in Half? (2023 | RespiratoryTherapyZone.com
    Nicotine transdermal patches are designed to release nicotine at a consistent rate. Cutting them in half may alter this release rate and compromise the patch’s effectiveness. Additionally, there’s a risk of getting nicotine on your hands when cutting.
    The following thread from Quora.com has lots of interesting tidbits, which would be helpful to anyone considering nicotine patches and nicotine in general.
    Quote Is it safe (and still effective) to cut a nicotine patch in half? | Quora.com
    Archive.ph of above post
    From @Chris Price
    • The problem with nicotine is that there is a factor 10x variation in tolerance to it.
    • There is a bell curve shape to the graph of nicotine tolerance, though it is distorted toward the 'weaker' end - most people have an average tolerance to it, but more are on the side requiring lower dosages than the stronger side.
    • nicotine patches are not a fit-and-forget approach. They require experimentation to find the optimum dosage and the time factors appropriate to the individual.
    • Nicotine is a very safe material because it has limited toxic potential and is metabolised fast...
    • There are two types of tolerance encountered with nicotine: the initial or innate tolerance to the material, which differs strongly between subjects
    Almost all modern knowledge of practical usage issues for nicotine comes from the vaping community... the vaping forums has provided a unique data resource that sidesteps the prohibition on research that existed previously.
    • Note *very carefully* that there is still only one proven way for persons with a family history of certain neurodegenerative diseases (e.g. Parkinson's) or certain auto-immune diseases to prevent presentation with one of these conditions, and that is to smoke.

    From @Claude Bamberger
    No, and yes.
    No if it has a reservoir and not layers (two types exist).
    For others, if you “just” cut it in half and stick the first half on you, the second one will be empty really fast as nicotine in this form can evaporate and oxidizes in the air, and the first one will let nicotine escape.
    So use a hermetic band aid like on a cut, to hermetically close them (on the skin and on the one for tomorrow).

    From @Angela
    You should only cut one in half immediately prior to adhesion. The remaining half should be sealed in the original packaging by folding over 2-3 times and stored in a cool dry place.Use this one next and repeat the process.

    From @Frank Oden - Smoking Cessation
    Probably safe (unless you get the fresh oil in your eyes, mouth, etc) but it won't effectively do transdermal absorption into the skin. The instructions tell you not to cut the patch because it’s designed to be airtight. if you open it up, the inside will dry out too quickly and then you’re basically sporting a dirty bandaid.
    Based on the above, here are my thoughts recommendations:
    • Nicotine dosage varies widely and requires individual experimentation.
    Nicotine is metabolized quickly. A cigarette and nicotine gum provide a quick "rush" of nicotine while a patch (UNcut) delivers nicotine at a slower, controlled rate. This is a big plus for those of us who want to use nicotine as a Covid prophylaxis. If you choose nicotine gum as a Covid prophylaxis, chewing several times a day may be required to provide sustained protection.
    • Cutting patches can effect delivery/absorption rate. Cut patches can evaporate and oxidize in air. If you cut a patch, cut it into rectangles (not diagonally) and hermetically seal the patch to your skin. Additionally, carefully seal the remaining patch and then use it the next day.
    • If you cut patches, wash your hands (and the scissors) afterwards to remove any nicotine gel.
    • Rotate where you put nicotine patches, as using the same location may cause skin irritation.

    My last thought about nicotine patches is conspiracy related. We don't know if the patch manufacturers have included other nano tech type materials in their patches. Because of food labeling laws, food manufacturers must provide a list of all ingredients. Meaning, I'll have a higher confidence in the contents of my nicotine gum, than I will in the contents of a nicotine patch or a vaping product.

    The big surprise of the above data- unrelated to the OP topic- is that smoking might be protective against neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinsons. Wow, that is a new one to me. If anyone has information on how this works, please post a short reply or link to another Avalon thread.

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    Default Re: DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

    The Rugby nicotine patches are also available with the recommended 7 mg.daily dosage, and next time I will get those so no cuttine will be necessary. Thanks so much for the info!
    The psychic Edgar Cayce smoked, and I don't know why, but perhaps his spirit guides recommended it; that was probably before all the additives were put in commercial cigarettes. You might be able to find out more if you search the Cayce info.
    Quote Posted by Kuperkai (here)

    As someone who has never smoked and is sensitive to chemicals in general, I decided to go with nicotine gum over using a patch, because I've read that cutting patches can effect skin absorption rate as well as the potency of the remaining patch. My point is purely educational, and everyone needs to make their own decisions.
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