DR. BRIAN ARDIS - Possibility of venom toxin origin of covid - Treatments and antidotes also discussed.

[ErtheVessel]

Per Onawah's post #127 above, yes, there is a homeopathic version of tobacco. It's called Tabacum.

There are also homeopathic versions of various snake venoms, however I would advise everyone to do their own extensive research on these remedies before trying any of them, as homeopathic remedies can be very powerful. For me, they need to be approached with a certain amount of humility and respect. And I have no idea if they would be effective in this application anyway.

[Kuperkai]

Posted by onawah (here)
The Rugby nicotine patches are also available with the recommended 7 mg.daily dosage, and next time I will get those so no cuttine will be necessary. Thanks so much for the info!
The psychic Edgar Cayce smoked, and I don't know why, but perhaps his spirit guides recommended it; that was probably before all the additives were put in commercial cigarettes. You might be able to find out more if you search the Cayce info.

@onawah- Agreed, if I went with a patch, i would go with the 7mg one as it gives a low, slow dose (and thereby a better prophylaxis) with no cutting necessary.

As for Edgar Cayce smoking, wow that is a surprise to me. Given that Cayce was told by his higher self to reduce the number readings, it seems strange- given what we know now about smoking- that he was NOT told to stop smoking. Perhaps, as you suggest, cigarettes were not filled with harmful additives are they are today ???

[onawah]

Right. I can't imagine Cayce would have recommended smoking if there were additives at that time in cigarettes.
I remember reading something somewhere about Cayce smoking, and if I recall correctly, he recommended it for some people--I think it was for calming nerves among other reasons, but I can't be certain.
If I recall, I don't think he smoked a lot, but did so for for a long time.
FYI, I went to the WalMart site where I ordered the nicotine patch, and for some odd reason, the same number of 7mg patches (14) cost the same as 14 of the 14 mg. patches, $28.99, so that is a pricey remedy!
Hopefully Dr. Ardis or someone will find a more affordable solution...

Posted by Kuperkai (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
The Rugby nicotine patches are also available with the recommended 7 mg.daily dosage, and next time I will get those so no cuttine will be necessary. Thanks so much for the info!
The psychic Edgar Cayce smoked, and I don't know why, but perhaps his spirit guides recommended it; that was probably before all the additives were put in commercial cigarettes. You might be able to find out more if you search the Cayce info.

@onawah- Agreed, if I went with a patch, i would go with the 7mg one as it gives a low, slow dose (and thereby a better prophylaxis) with no cutting necessary.

As for Edgar Cayce smoking, wow that is a surprise to me. Given that Cayce was told by his higher self to reduce the number readings, it seems strange- given what we know now about smoking- that he was NOT told to stop smoking. Perhaps, as you suggest, cigarettes were not filled with harmful additives are they are today ???

[Kuperkai]

Posted by onawah (here)
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FYI, I went to the WalMart site where I ordered the nicotine patch, and for some odd reason, the same number of 7mg patches (14) cost the same as 14 of the 14 mg. patches, $28.99, so that is a pricey remedy!
Hopefully Dr. Ardis or someone will find a more affordable solution...

Walmart is not much different than Amazon, so here is a link for Qty 30, 7mg patches at $20 ($0.67 per patch).

7mg Quit Patches, Step 3 Stop Aids, 30 Patches Safe and Effective Anti-Stickers, Reduce Cravings and Withdrawal Symptoms
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWCFL3XV/

[onawah]

As I recall, Ardis recommended the Rugby brand, though I don't know how it differs from any other brand.
Hopefully we will know more in time...

Posted by Kuperkai (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
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FYI, I went to the WalMart site where I ordered the nicotine patch, and for some odd reason, the same number of 7mg patches (14) cost the same as 14 of the 14 mg. patches, $28.99, so that is a pricey remedy!
Hopefully Dr. Ardis or someone will find a more affordable solution...

Walmart is not much different than Amazon, so here is a link for Qty 30, 7mg patches at $20 ($0.67 per patch).

7mg Quit Patches, Step 3 Stop Aids, 30 Patches Safe and Effective Anti-Stickers, Reduce Cravings and Withdrawal Symptoms
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWCFL3XV/

[Sue (Ayt)]

Posted by Kuperkai (here)
The big surprise of the above data- unrelated to the OP topic- is that smoking might be protective against neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinsons. Wow, that is a new one to me. If anyone has information on how this works, please post a short reply or link to another Avalon thread.

I think this research article I found sheds some light on how it might work, Kuperkai. (?)

Neuronal nicotinic receptors as novel targets for inflammation and neuroprotection: mechanistic considerations and clinical relevance
https://www.nature.com/articles/aps200937
The article is comprehensive and pretty hard to digest, but it possibly could aid our understanding.

A snippet:

Abstract
A number of studies have confirmed the potential for neuronal nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (NNR)-mediated neuroprotection and, more recently, its anti-inflammatory effects. The mechanistic overlap between these pathways and the ubiquitous effects observed following diverse insults suggest that NNRs modulate fundamental pathways involved in cell survival. These results have wide-reaching implications for the design of experimental therapeutics that regulate inflammatory and anti-apoptotic responses through NNRs and represent an initial step toward understanding the benefits of novel therapeutic strategies for the management of central nervous system disorders that target neuronal survival and associated inflammatory processes.

Introduction
The role of neuroprotection may be central to the management of conditions such as Alzheimer's disease (AD), Parkinson's disease (PD), Huntington's disease, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, and ischemic optic neuropathy, as well as cerebrovascular disorders, traumatic brain injury, spinal cord injury, and retinal degeneration. Many of the underlying mechanisms responsible for damage to neural tissues are believed to be similar in a number of these conditions. Over 500 products have been investigated for neuroprotective effects, including those from the following categories: free radical scavengers, anti-excitotoxic agents, apoptosis inhibitors, anti-inflammatory agents, neurotrophic factors, and ion channel modulators. Extensive work assessing neuronal nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (NNR)-mediated neuroprotection supports a ubiquitous and broad role for NNRs in regulating the various pathways involved in cell survival, apoptosis, and death.

A number of studies have confirmed the potential for neuronal nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (NNR)-mediated neuroprotection and, more recently, its anti-inflammatory effects. The mechanistic overlap between these pathways and the ubiquitous effects observed following diverse insults suggest that NNRs modulate fundamental pathways involved in cell survival. These results have wide-reaching implications for the design of experimental therapeutics that regulate inflammatory and anti-apoptotic responses through NNRs and represent an initial step toward understanding the benefits of novel therapeutic strategies for the management of central nervous system disorders that target neuronal survival and associated inflammatory processes.

much more in the article here

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It appears to come down to the Nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, (nAChRs) and the regulation of acetylcholine. Seems like many of the toxins in the substances around these days can block these receptors, like snake venom, anticholinergics, excitotoxins like MSG and aspartame, and fluoride.

(Two opposing links that do make me wonder are below)

Chronic fluoride toxicity decreases the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors in rat brain
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12460657/

Chronic exposure to nicotine has been reported to increase the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (AChRs) in brain.
http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/cg...tract/51/5/776

[Kuperkai]

Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)

Posted by Kuperkai (here)
The big surprise of the above data- unrelated to the OP topic- is that smoking might be protective against neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinsons. Wow, that is a new one to me. If anyone has information on how this works, please post a short reply or link to another Avalon thread.

I think this research article I found sheds some light on how it might work, Kuperkai. (?)

Neuronal nicotinic receptors as novel targets for inflammation and neuroprotection: mechanistic considerations and clinical relevance
https://www.nature.com/articles/aps200937
The article is comprehensive and pretty hard to digest, but it possibly could aid our understanding.

...

It appears to come down to the Nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, (nAChRs) and the regulation of acetylcholine. Seems like many of the toxins in the substances around these days can block these receptors, like snake venom, anticholinergics, excitotoxins like MSG and aspartame, and fluoride.

(Two opposing links that do make me wonder are below)

Chronic fluoride toxicity decreases the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors in rat brain
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12460657/

Chronic exposure to nicotine has been reported to increase the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (AChRs) in brain.
http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/cg...tract/51/5/776

@Sue (Ayt)- Wow, thank you for doing the digging! Very interesting data, especially with the intriguing twist on the effects of fluoride and nicotine.

Whoever runs this world really hates humanity...

[Harmony]

I had reported in post #122 4mg nicotine gum was way too much for me to tolerate all at once. I had a few days rest to get back to normal and today I tried .5 mg dose, by cutting the gum into 8 pieces. I chewed it slowly off and on for 1/2 an hour. I had no noticeable adverse reactions with that low dose, so I will try doing that 2 times a day and see how that feels and perhaps up the dose if all goes well. It seems very important to make sure you don't have too much at once if you are not a smoker. It will be interesting to hear members reports on using the nicotine patch method.



Thanks everyone for all the helpful information

[Kuperkai]

Posted by Harmony (here)
I had reported in post #122 4mg nicotine gum was way too much for me to tolerate all at once. I had a few days rest to get back to normal and today I tried .5 mg dose, by cutting the gum into 8 pieces. I chewed it slowly off and on for 1/2 an hour. I had no noticeable adverse reactions with that low dose, so I will try doing that 2 times a day and see how that feels and perhaps up the dose if all goes well. It seems very important to make sure you don't have too much at once if you are not a smoker. It will be interesting to hear members reports on using the nicotine patch method.

@Harmony- How about chewing the 4 mg gum for 10 minutes and then spit it out? I think Dr Ardis' wife only chewed the gum for 10-12 minutes before spitting it out. I feel a slight headache at the 10 minute mark and then chew for another 1-2 minutes. As a non-smoker, I'm rather sensitive to the nicotine, so there is no way I could chew 4mg for 30 minutes.

[onawah]

I received the Rugby nicotine patches yesterday and today is the second day I've been using them.
I haven't noticed any big difference in the way I feel as yet; so whatever effect it will be having may be gradual.
But I am noticing that I've started coughing up some thick, yellowish phlegm, so that is probably a good sign.
However, I've also just increased the EDTA chelation I've been doing, so I'm not sure which might be causing that.
I had been using a spray EDTA sublingually, but it's quite expensive and I've almost used up the bottle, so I just started yesterday using a concoction I made myself of coconut oil, shea butter and EDTA powder from the capsules, which I am applying sublingually.
I found that taking the capsules orally as recommended on the bottle of Arizona Natural brand EDTA, made me feel very weird after a couple of days, so I switched to the spray.
But since I wasn't sure what effect the spray might be having since I wasn't feeling anything, I decided to try using the powder in the capsules topically.
I will copy this post to the Protocols to Mitigate/Minimise COVID-19 "Vaccination" Damage thread.

update: I don't think the EDTA powder mixed with coconut oil and shea butter is really having any effect. It doesn't seem to break down enough to be absorbed. But I'm not sure the spray form of zeolite is working either. When I take capsules orally, I definitely feel the effect, (though it's not comfortable, I do feel less toxic once it's done its' work, but also in need of a mineral supplement. And I can't do it continuously--it's too stressful.)

[Dorjezigzag]

On the Unique-herbal-recipes-for-Covid-Variants thread last year I recommended a book. of which I didn’t get the warmest of receptions.



While living among Peruvian Indians, anthropologist Jeremy Narby became intrigued by their claim that their phenomenal knowledge of plants and biochemistry was communicated to them directly while under the influence of Entheogens.

Despite his initial scepticism, Narby found himself engaged in an increasingly obsessive personal quest. The evidence he collected – on subjects as diverse as molecular biology, shamanism, neurology and ancient mythology – led inexorably to the conclusion that the Indians’ claims were literally true: to a consciousness prepared with drugs, specific biochemical knowledge could indeed be directly transmitted through DNA itself."

DNA is very similar visually to the intertwined serpents. He wonders if this, in some way, is what is being represented in these mystical visions. He then goes on to explore through cutting edge science if DNA is involved in this communication which we share with other life forms.

Many people are aware of the use of Ayahuasca as an entheogen in Peru but less are aware of the use of tobacco. The wild tobacco of the Amazon is up to 17 times stronger than that we are used to in our culture. The shamans find it a powerful plant to work with.

As I've mentioned before, I have a deep connection with Peru, and I believe you'll find this book excerpt about the spiritual and healing use of tobacco in relation this thread absolutely fascinating and very relevant. It's worth noting that this book was written in the mid-90s.

Here is the book extract-

The Ashaninca say that by ingesting ayahuasca or tobacco, it is possible to see the normally invisible and hidden maninkari spirits. Carlos Perez Shuma had told me that tobacco attracted the maninkari. Amazonian shamans in general consider tobacco a food for the spirits, who crave it "since they no longer possess fire as human beings do." If my hypothesis were correct, it ought to be possible to find correspondence between these shamanic notions and the facts established by the study of the neurological activity of these same substances. More precisely, there ought to be an analogous connection between nicotine and DNA contained in the nerve cells of a human brain.

The idea that the maninkari liked tobacco had always seemed funny to me. I considered "spirits" to be imaginary characters who could not really enjoy material substances. I also considered smoking to be a bad habit, and it seemed improbable that spirits (in as much as they existed) would suffer from the same kinds of addictive behaviours as human beings. Nevertheless, I had resolved to stop letting myself be held up by such doubts and to pay attention to the literal meaning of the shamans' words, and the shamans were categorical in saying that spirits had an almost insatiable hunger for tobacco.

I started following this trail by spending a few days at the library. I even made several phone calls to a specialist in the neurological mechanisms of nicotine to deepen my understanding and make sure I was not establishing imaginary connections – neurology being the last of my competencies. Here is what I learned. In the human brain, each nerve cell, or neuron, has billions of receptors on its outer surface. These receptors are proteins specialized in the recognition and trapping of specific neurotransmitters, or similar substances. A molecule of nicotine shares structural similarities with the neurotransmitter acetylcholine and fits like a skeleton key into its receptor on certain neurons. This receptor is embedded in the cell's membrane and is a large protein that includes not only a "lock" (the docking site for the external molecule), but also a channel, with a gate that is normally shut. When a key is introduced into the lock- when a molecule of nicotine fits into the binding site at the top of the receptor-the channel's gate opens, allowing in a selective Bow of positively charged atoms of calcium and sodium. The latter trigger a (poorly understood) cascade of electric reactions inside the cell, which ends up exciting the DNA contained in the nucleus, causing it to activate several genes, including those corresponding to the proteins that make up nicotinic receptors.

The more you give nicotine to your neurons, the more the DNA they contain activates the construction of nicotinic receptors, within certain limits. Here, I thought, is the almost insatiable hunger of the spirits for tobacco: The more you give them, the more they want. I was surprised by the degree of correspondence between shamanic notions of tobacco and neurological studies of nicotine. One only had to do a literal translation to pass from one to the other. However, scientific accounts in terms of "receptors," "flux of positively charged atoms," and "stimulation of the transcription of the genes coding for the subunits of nicotinic receptors" did not explain in any way the effects of nicotine on consciousness.
How was it that shamans saw spirits by ingesting staggering quantities of tobacco? Before continuing with this question, I will clarify two points.first, the discovery that nicotine stimulates the construction of nicotinic receptors was only made at the beginning of the 1990s; the connection between this phenomenon and the addiction displayed by tobacco users seems obvious but has yet to be explored in detail.

Second, there are fundamental differences between The shamanic use of tobacco and the consumption of industrial cigarettes. The botanical variety used in the Amazon contains up to eighteen times more nicotine than the plants used in Virginia-type cigarettes. Amazonian tobacco is grown without chemical fertilizers or pesticides and contains none of the ingredients added to cigarettes, such as aluminium oxide, potassium nitrate, ammonium phosphate, polyvinyl acetate, and a hundred or so others, which make up approximately 10 percent of the smokable matter.

During combustion, a cigarette emits some 4,000 substances, most of which are toxic. Some of these substances are even radioactive, making cigarettes the largest single source of radiation in the daily life of an average smoker. According to one study, the average smoker absorbs the equivalent of the radiation dosages from 250 chest X-rays per year. Cigarette smoke is directly implicated in more than 25 serious illnesses, including 17 forms of cancer. In the Amazon, on the other hand, tobacco is considered a remedy. The Ashaninca word for "healer," or "shaman," is sheripiari - literally, "the person who uses tobacco.

The oldest Ashaninca men I knew were all sheripiari. They were so old that they did not know their own age, which only their deeply wrinkled skin suggested, and they were remarkably alert and healthy.

Intrigued by these disparities, I looked through data banks for comparative studies between the toxicity of the Amazonian variety (Nicotiana rustica) and the variety used By the manufacturers of cigarettes, cigars, rolling tobacco, and pipe tobacco (Nicotiana tabacum). I found nothing. The question, it seemed, had not been asked I also looked for studies on the cancer rate among shamans who use massive and regular doses of nicotine: again, nothing.
So I decided to write to the main authority on the matter, Johannes Wilbert, author of the book Tobacco and shamanism in SouthAmerica, to put my questions to him. He replied: There is certainly evidence that Western tobacco products contain many differentharmful agents which are probably not present in organically grown plants • I have not heard of shamans developing cancers but that may, of course, be a function of several things like lack of Western diagnosis, the natural life span of indigenous people,magico-religious restriction of tobacco use in tribal societies, etc. " It seems clear that nicotine does not cause cancer, given that it is active in the brain and that cigarettes do not cause cancer in the brain, but in the lungs, oesophagus, stomach, pancreas, rectum, kidneys, and bladder, the organs reached by the carcinogenic tars, which are also swallowed.

In any case, scientists have never really considered tobacco as a hallucinogen, because Westerners have never smoked large enough doses to reach the hallucinatory state. Consequently, the neurological mechanisms of hallucinations induced by tobacco have not been studied. paradoxically, nicotinic receptors are the ones best known to neurologists, who have been studying them for decades, given that there are both substances that stimulate these receptors, like acetylcholine and nicotine, and others that block them, like curare and the venom of certain snakes. Indeed, by one of those curious coincidences, tobacco, curare, and snake venom all fit into exactly the same locks inside our brain.

There is so much more I can comment on this in relation to the thread but best to digest this first.

[Dorjezigzag]

As I have alluded to on various posts in the past, I believe that COVID and the vaccine has an occult element working through it. Scientific projects have been exploring the vistas previously only reserved for spiritual adepts and shamans. I doubt anything good can from their stumbling in these realms especially when in the hands of people focused on power and control. This perception has been confirmed to me by various shamans around the world.

Here is a further interesting passage from the cosmic serpent

The molecules of nicotine or dimethyltryptamine, contained in tobacco or ayahuasca, activate their respective receptors, which set off a cascade of electrochemical reactions inside the neurons, leading to the stimulation of DNA and, more particularly, to its emission of visible waves, which shamans perceive as hallucinations (I think a more appropriate word would be visions).

There, I thought, is the source of knowledge: DNA, living in water and emitting photons, like an aquatic dragon spitting fire. IF MY HYPOTHESIS IS CORRECT, and if ayahuasqueros perceive DNA-emitted photons in their visions, it ought to be possible to find a link between these photons and consciousness. I started looking for it in the biophoton literature.

Researchers working in this new field mainly consider biophoton emission as a "cellular language" or a form of "nonsubstantial biocommunication between cells and organisms." Over the last fifteen years, they have conducted enough reproducible experiments to believe that cells use these waves to direct their own internal reactions as well as to communicate among themselves, and even between organisms. For instance, photon emission provides a communication mechanism that could explain how billions of individual plankton organisms cooperate in swarms, behaving like "super-organisms.

Biophoton emission may fill certain gaps in the theories of orthodox biology, which centre exclusively on molecules. Yet researchers in this new field of inquiry Mill have to work hard to convince the majority of their colleagues. As Mae-Wan Ho and Fritz-Albert Popp point out, many biologists find the idea that the cell is a solid-state system difficult to imagine, "as few of us have the requisite biophysical background to appreciate the implications." But this did not help my search for a connection between DNA-emitted photons and consciousness. I did not find a publication dealing with this connection or, for that matter, with the subject of the influence of nicotine or dimethyltryptamine on biophoton emission.

So I decided to call Fritz-Albert Popp in his university laboratory in Germany. He was kind enough to spare his time to an unknown anthropologist conducting an obscure investigation. During the conversation, he confirmed a good number of my impressions. I ended up asking him whether he had considered the possibility of a connection between DNA's photon emission and consciousness. He replied: "Yes, consciousness could be the electromagnetic field constituted by the sum of these emissions. But, as you know, our understanding of the neurological basis of consciousness is still very limited."

[norman]

I intuitively know that sentience is not biochemical but for it to manifest itself within the biochemical, there has to be a very tight and special inter relation.

Well, it's more than just my intuition. The yet unexplained accounts of past life recall and NDE can only be true if there is at least one other form beyond the biochemical by which the sentient existence can sustain itself.

[onawah]

I don't think the EDTA powder mixed with coconut oil and shea butter is really having any effect. It doesn't seem to break down enough to be absorbed. But I'm not sure the spray form of zeolite is working either. When I take capsules orally, I definitely feel the effect. (Though it's not comfortable, I do feel less toxic once it's done its' work, but also in need of a mineral supplement. And I can't do it continuously--it's too stressful.)

[Chuck]

Johnny come lately to the show... Thank you all for GREAT information. I watched the 2 1/2 hr interview with Dr. Bryan Ardis and Jason Shurka. Like all of you I CANNOT RECOMMEND THIS ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO WATCH! WOW! (Marburg epidemic on the horizon.)

https://rumble.com/embed/v3j1r5v/?pub=4



I have never smoked and just chewed 2mg nicotine gum. hahahaha best buzz I ever had. Had to lie down for a bit. I've suffered some long Covid symptoms like tinnitus, headaches, brain fog, type 2 diabetes, poor sleep etc. I look forward to sharing with you all my healing journey. Thank you for information on sourcing the recommended protocols.

I have never recommended to watch a video before... WATCH THIS ONE!

[norman]

Hmmm . . . I'm waiting . . . .

. . . .for the questions to be raised about what the hell McCullock (given a huge platform by Rogan), Malone (given a huge platform by Rogan) and Rand Paul (hogging the truth search narrative by the US government with his incessant hammering on about Wuhan gain of function) are really doing ?

[onawah]

Possibly they are voicing what they still think to be the truth (haven't questioned the "science" enough), haven't yet looked deeply enough, and haven't yet been exposed to, or taken Ardis's work into enough consideration.

Posted by norman (here)
Hmmm . . . I'm waiting . . . .

. . . .for the questions to be raised about what the hell McCullock (given a huge platform by Rogan), Malone (given a huge platform by Rogan) and Rand Paul (hogging the truth search narrative by the US government with his incessant hammering on about Wuhan gain of function) are really doing ?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by onawah (here)
Ardis recommends using the nicotine patch, 7mg. nicotine per day.
I just ordered this from WalMart:
Rugby Step 2 Clear Nicotine Transdermal System Stop Smoking Aid, 14 mg, 14 Count for $28.99.
It is the kind he recommended, though he got his from Amazon.
Ardis says he cuts each 14 mg.patch in half and uses one per day, though that might be overkill.
I imagine that any changes would be most noticeable when it is first put to use.

I thought Ardis said he cut the 14 mg patch into six pieces, not two pieces, but lacking a transcript, I'm too lazy to scan back through the long video to find the relevant timestamp - sorry.

Posted by onawah (here)

Posted by Kuperkai (here)
I have not finished Dr Ardis' latest interview, but does he address the issue of "mopping" up any free floating spike/venom?

Yes - several items, including EDTA, Vitamin C, and other useful remedies and considerations.

[onawah]

Ardis said he cuts each 14 mg patch in half, and if you research a little, you will see that the recommended daily dose for smokers trying to quit (at "stage 2", I think it is) is 7mg, though I don't know if that has anything to do with it other than that being a safe daily dose.
It's important to seal up the exposed patch just along the sides which have been cut, as an excess of nicotine could be leaked all at once, otherwise.
I'm using surgical tape for that, which works very well.
I've noticed that I cough a lot when I have a patch on, which seems to be a good sign, though it takes a fair amount of coughing to bring up any phlegm, which seems to be the desired effect.

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
I thought Ardis said he cut the 14 mg patch into six pieces, not two pieces, but lacking a transcript, I'm too lazy to scan back through the long video to find the relevant timestamp - sorry.

[Chuck]

you are right onawah, but if I recall correctly, Ardis also cut the 14mg patch into 6 pieces, 1 piece per day for maintenance (after the initial detox).