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    I think this kind of threat (sanctions!!) should be taken quite seriously.

    https://t.me/ZandVchannel/83111

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    "If the bombardment of Gaza does not stop, we will cut off the gas supply to the world," said Qatar's Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I think this kind of threat (sanctions!!) should be taken quite seriously.

    https://t.me/ZandVchannel/83111

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    "If the bombardment of Gaza does not stop, we will cut off the gas supply to the world," said Qatar's Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani.
    I doubt they'll cut off the oil to their really close allies and strategic partners.
    Solar eclipse in the US tomorrow, could be an omen....
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    • The inhabitants of Israel have been sacrificed, betrayed.
    Israeli journalist Efrat Fenigson said this to Bret Weinstein in the DarkHorse Podcast.

    Fenigson, who served as a border guard in the Israeli army, has serious doubts about Hamas' "surprise attack" on Israel.

    "The people of Israel have been—I don't know if sacrificed is too rough of a word—but we have been sold out."


    Israeli journalist, Efrat Fenigson (@efenigson), who served in Israel's intelligence forces, raises serious doubts about the government's "surprise attack" narrative.

    "No military involvement, no police, no arms on the ground for hours and hours. This is something that is non-typical and unusual for Israel defence forces."

    "[The fact that the border was breached in 15 places] is completely ridiculous because normally with one breach of the fence, the whole army is triggered and things start moving immediately. Things start moving immediately, and here there was nothing for hours."
    • Completely Ridiculous
    For many hours, both the army and the police stood aside. The journalist noted that this is unusual.

    According to her, the fact that they have broken through the border in at least 15 places is completely ridiculous. Normally, one border breach brings the entire army into action, she said. This time nothing happened for hours.
    • Continuously Monitored:
    Fenigson pointed out that the border fence is continuously monitored and if anything comes near it, even a cat or a pig, the army moves out immediately. On Friday, the Israeli army called on all residents of Gaza City to leave their homes. The army said it will carry out "significant" operations in the city in the coming days.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I think this kind of threat (sanctions!!) should be taken quite seriously.

    https://t.me/ZandVchannel/83111

    The text:
    "If the bombardment of Gaza does not stop, we will cut off the gas supply to the world," said Qatar's Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani.

    https://x.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1712873023890481445



    https://www.zerohedge.com/commoditie...orld-fake-news

    Viral Clip Of Emir Of Qatar Threatening To Cut Gas Supply To World Is Fake News

    Minutes ago, the large news aggregator Citizen Free Press picked up a video clip purporting to show the Emir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al Thani, threating to shut off gas supply to the world. He's purported to have said, "If the bombing of Gaza doesn't stop, we will stop gas supply of the world."

    Zero Hedge has confirmed that this is fake news. The Arabic in the below clip nowhere mentions natural gas or any other energy commodity, but instead merely decries Palestinian land being taken as the main "issue" in general remarks on the Israel-Gaza crisis.
    The clip is fast approaching one million views after it hit Citizen Free Press [since deleted].

    On Friday as the fake statement spread, natural gas prices only briefly spiked, and then dumped, remaining relatively unaffected...

    A Qatar-based English language news portal has also said the natural gas supply cut threat is fake news in the below...

    * * *

    An account previously exposed to have links with the UAE has posted fake news on Qatari threats to cut gas supplies to the world if Israel continues to bombard Gaza.

    Disinformation experts have exposed an account “masquerading” as a Qatari news source that has spread false reports on an alleged Qatari threat to cut its gas supplies to the world if Israel continues to bomb the besieged Gaza Strip.

    The ‘Qatar Affairs’ account shared a post on X, formerly known as Twitter, on Wednesday, alleging “the State of Qatar threatened to stop gas supplies to the world if the bombing of Gaza does not stop.”

    The remarks raised eyebrows among Qatar watchers on social media with many calling out the suspicious account for the unverified claims.

    “Qattar_affairs is an account used to try and frame Qatar in a negative light. It masquerades as a legitimate news account and the majority of its content is designed to make it look like a standard Qatar news account, but like many disinfo ops, it will occasionally include obvious disinformation,” Marc Owen Jones, an associate professor of Middle East Studies at Hamad bin Khalifa University in Qatar, told Doha News on Thursday.

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    Even if ISRAELI authorities are "100%" correct with their assessments & conclusions about "evil that has been done" to them, STILL it does NOT justify to punish 100,000s civilians with REAL TERROR ... And I truly wonder how many ISRAELIS do not care if they are lied to or not ... They just go along with the pushed narrative to justify ULTRA TERROR for 100,000s civilians coming weeks! ... In my view, most mass brainwashing media have blood on their hands!
    • When the masses eventually find out the whole truth, it is too late ... Harm on a massive scale is already done ... Is this mentality not very similar to what happened in 1933-1945?
    When people use RAGE (mostly based upon provable lies & mass deception) as an excuse to support massive terror on 100,000s of civilians coming weeks! ... Meanwhile, they can not empathize with the RAGE against them when the whole truth comes out, which many already knew beforehand but is deliberately NOT reported by Lamestream Media!
    • When eventually the whole truth comes out, HOW we all are being played & manipulated may even trigger WW3 ... Maybe it is part of the plan?
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    https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1712931109233713246



    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/i...=ap_aftv2y5alq

    Scores killed in Israeli air strikes on families fleeing northern Gaza

    Scores of people, mainly women and children, have been killed in multiple Israeli air strikes on the main road connecting north and south Gaza, as Palestinians carried out an Israeli order to flee their homes.

    According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, at least 70 people have been killed in three separate air strikes on the road, with the latest killing at least 40.

    The Israeli army said in a statement on Friday that civilians must leave Gaza City in the north, and that they would not be allowed to return "until we say so" and until "a statement is issued allowing this".

    However, locals have reported a number of attacks on the Salah al-Din Road since then. Survivors, speaking to local media, implored others not to make the journey for fear of being targeted by the Israelis.

    "Do not leave," a distraught survivor of the attacks told local media.

    "They bombed the convoy. They bombed it on Salah al-Din Road. They bombed the ambulances."

    Another survivor said the attacks were a "direct targeting of women and children".

    "I was in the truck. There were about 200 people. 90 percent were women and children. We took the main road that the entire world knew we were taking. My entire family were with me. Out of nowhere, they dropped a bomb. Everything was black and I lost conscience for 10 mins," they told local media.

    "When I woke up I saw a mother lying with her baby, whose brain was right next to him. I heard the ambulances then they bombed again. I took cover and after a few minutes tried to check the damage, then they bombed again."

    Palestinians from the north of Gaza have already been displaced in recent days by Israel's bombing campaign.

    MEE’s correspondent Maha Hussaini has already left her home in the north following the orders of forced removal.

    Another MEE reporter on the ground said that it currently "looks like a second Nakba" or catastrophe in Arabic, and that "many families are now leaving their homes".

    The United Nations called on Israel to call off the evacuation order.

    "The United Nations considers it impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences," said Stephane Dujarric, spokesperson for the UN secretary general.

    “The United Nations strongly appeals for any such order, if confirmed, to be rescinded, avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into a calamitous situation.”

    The World Health Organisation has said that Israel, in forcing severely ill people in Gaza, including those on life support, to move, amounts to a “death sentence”.

    Hamas launched a surprise multi-front assault on Israeli communities on Saturday, firing thousands of rockets and sending fighters into Israel across land, air and sea. More than 1,300 Israelis have been killed, and over 100 people were taken captive into Gaza.

    Israeli forces have responded by raining down a barrage of air strikes on the Gaza Strip this week, killing at least 1,799 people, most of them women and children.

    The forced evacuation calls come as Israel amassed tanks near the boundary with Gaza ahead of an expected ground invasion of the enclave - the first such incursion in over nine years.

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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)

    (...)

    What we are witnessing has nothing to do with religion. Can anyone remember the last Jewish Crusade? This is British hegemony garbed in ethnic cloaks and ongoing exploitation.

    Israel has nothing to do with religion. Their legal definition of Judaism spans from atheism to Messianic, which is basically Christianity. It is a blanket term for various traditions, the more authentic of which require defiance of Zionism.

    Almost everything in these traditions was compiled in the Babylonian Captivity, such as Genesis or the Messiah, which can then be understood as copies/derivatives. The fact of Cyrus the Great being the Messiah may tell us more than the accompaniment of Kabalistic documents from the same period that the Torah was developed.


    Having said that, if no one else will uphold the message of Jews Against Zionism, I will. It has nothing to do with war or hopium; in fact, the tone I get is usually the opposite, a form of commiseration, since it is a lament about why we are not particularly divine and keep suffering for our sins and weaknesses. It is about the pain of separation from divinity mixed with personal responsibility. And this ought to be similar in meaning to "jihad".

    Western logic and analysis is not merely misleading, it is utterly unfounded and groundless.

    Europe is truly a hotbed of "religious wars"--Catholic vs. pagan heretics, Protestant vs. Catholic, with no real motive beyond convert or die. Many Islamic Caliphates are quite similar. In all other experiences, it is hard to find anything that resembles this Extreme Dogma.

    Europeans would still burn you alive just because of what you think, well into the 1700s.

    If a Hamas kills an Israeli civilian, it is because of the Occupation, not because they are Jewish.

    As a religion or religious tradition(s), Judaism could increase its status greatly by repudiating Zionism, which is a "Christian" belief. In classical times they were greatly respected everywhere they went! Because they earned it! Especially in Gaza!

    The Israelis were dispersed by Assyria and the "Lost Tribes" went to Iran and the Caucasus and have been there ever since, without suppression or pogroms, etc., because they are fairly normal and just practice religion privately and don't try to hook up with the government for favoritism such as foreign conquest. Do they have anything to do with Judea? Not really.

    Hebrew-based Israeli religious traditions are effectively part of the Persian Empire, a Persian is solely responsible for there even being a Judea II, which in turn simply became part of Edom.


    I only have a small amount of personal experience, but, in my view, the Jews are much easier to deal with than the Christians, because you don't have to Jesus anything. I have never sensed a hair of proselytism or subconscious projections of superiority that most Christians simply cannot stop.

    This cannot be a religious war since the demands of uncontaminated Judaism as well as Islam would be the same, Zion is an illegal settler state and cannot be allowed to continue as an apartheid regime.

    "Religious identity" as a part of psycho-social manipulation is an unfortunate and unnecessary complicating factor that has little to do with the more substantial parts of what may be useful in any of the "religious ideas" that are still available.

    (...)
    Thank you Shaberon. Entirely true. To those who profess real Judaism, Zionism is a religious abomination.

    In the course of my adult life, I saw how the anti-Zionist Hassidim of my youth in my town of birth, Antwerp, were gradually being replaced by “Hassidim” immigrating from the US, all fiercely Zionist. (I put those "Hassidim” between quotation marks because the esoteric traditions in Judaism speak of a heavenly Zion, just like Kabbalistc Christians speak of a heavenly Jerusalem. "Hassidic Zionism" is an oxymoron.)

    When I went to Israel and Palestine in 1974, I met my first (and quite unpleasant) exemplar of these ultra-Zionist “religious persons”, who were then proselytising in the orthodox quarter of Jerusalem.

    In an interview given to a Dutch-language newspaper in the beginning of this century by Antwerp’s last genuinely orthodox Hassidic (and therefore anti-Zionist) rabbi of the orthodox Jewish quarter the rabbi explained how the children of his community of barely 100 souls left were being thrown pebbles at by Moroccan immigrant youngsters and spat at by the children from the “new orthodox”, Zionist families.

    It is the duty of any Christian to unmask "orthodox Zionism" for what it is, especially so since the literalist and Bible-brandishing Christians are responsible for co-birthing this desecration of Judaism.
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    Quote Posted by PathWalker (here)

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    Few topics to consider about our region of the world:

    (...)

    2. Religion is a hopium for the desperate (that is why Kabbala - the Jewish mysticism was developed/invented).

    (...)
    Thank you Pathwalker. Could you elaborate on this interesting statement?

    The first part is a variation on a well-known statement – but, as we are all gradually becoming desperate, are you suggesting that we should take that hopium or rather not?

    I hope you will pardon this light-hearted variation on your statement but what interests me especially, is what you mean by the second part. Admittedly, the Kabbalah (at least its source material) was written during the diaspora after the annihilation of the Temple during the 2nd-century uprising – but I am under the impression that you reduce the value of the Zohar texts to this “reaction out of despair” aspect.

    This could of course be debated on another thread. But you can maybe already give an indication of why you expressed your thoughts that way. Thank you.

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    Quite clarifying. With Kennedy a staunch defender of “Israel” as well, everybody knows what to expect from American civilisation.

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Ex IDF commander: "It was done in full co-operation. It's impossible that the IDF did not know about this."

    "This country betrayed us back during the Covid-19 pandemic, with these dangerous vaccinations. Now you see it more clearly. The army no longer serves us. I know it sounds hard. I know it's scary, but in my opinion, it's true."
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Even if ISRAELI authorities are "100%" correct with their assessments & conclusions about "evil that has been done" to them, STILL it does NOT justify to punish 100,000s civilians with REAL TERROR ... And I truly wonder how many ISRAELIS do not care if they are lied to or not ... They just go along with the pushed narrative to justify ULTRA TERROR for 100,000s civilians coming weeks! ... In my view, most mass brainwashing media have blood on their hands!
    • When the masses eventually find out the whole truth, it is too late ... Harm on a massive scale is already done ... Is this mentality not very similar to what happened in 1933-1945?
    When people use RAGE (mostly based upon provable lies & mass deception) as an excuse to support massive terror on 100,000s of civilians coming weeks! ... Meanwhile, they can not empathize with the RAGE against them when the whole truth comes out, which many already knew beforehand but is deliberately NOT reported by Lamestream Media!
    • When eventually the whole truth comes out, HOW we all are being played & manipulated may even trigger WW3 ... Maybe this part of the plan?
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    I really don't know what news reports to trust...


    Hamas accidentally posted a video of a doll (yes a doll) suggesting that it was a part of casualties caused by an IDF attack.

    Last edited by Sirus; 13th October 2023 at 22:46.

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    Strange. Is the doll on the right photograph being carried to the ambulance on the left photograph?

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    Quote Posted by Sirus (here)
    I really don't know what news reports to trust...


    Hamas accidentally posted a video of a doll (yes a doll) suggesting that it was a part of casualties caused by an IDF attack.


    Makes sense if they (HAMAS) are funded by Israel ... the more RAGE on both sides the faster they can do so much more soon enough ... from a military perspective
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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Even if ISRAELI authorities are "100%" correct with their assessments & conclusions about "evil that has been done" to them, STILL it does NOT justify to punish 100,000s civilians with REAL TERROR ... And I truly wonder how many ISRAELIS do not care if they are lied to or not ... They just go along with the pushed narrative to justify ULTRA TERROR for 100,000s civilians coming weeks! ... In my view, most mass brainwashing media have blood on their hands!
    • When the masses eventually find out the whole truth, it is too late ... Harm on a massive scale is already done ... Is this mentality not very similar to what happened in 1933-1945?
    When people use RAGE (mostly based upon provable lies & mass deception) as an excuse to support massive terror on 100,000s of civilians coming weeks! ... Meanwhile, they can not empathize with the RAGE against them when the whole truth comes out, which many already knew beforehand but is deliberately NOT reported by Lamestream Media!
    • When eventually the whole truth comes out, HOW we all are being played & manipulated may even trigger WW3 ... Maybe this part of the plan?
    cheers,
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    We are not only ignorant John, we are also hard-hearted.
    Slaughter has been happening over and over again since the dawn of humanity. The DNA of the human species is broken/corrupted in my opinion. Nature is strange, animals mostly kill for a reason, basically to survive or eat, humans often don't need a reason or kill just for the thrill of it.

    This attack in Israel looks to be only done for a specific reason and response, to direct a desired outcome. The orchestraters knew exactly what Israel would do to Gaza. It looks like a maneuver to trap Israel to me, and perhaps the US too. They are already becoming trapped just by the narrative alone. Feels like the final chapter is being played out right before our very eyes. It also seems like WW3 has already begun and that everyone is just positioning themselves before pulling out their big guns and firing.

    My gut is telling me that the desired outcome is way bigger than just Israel once and for all eliminating Hamas in Gaza.

    99% of the protesters across the globe today don't have a clue as to what is really going on or what or who they are actually protesting for. It's beyond bizarre.

    In my opinion humanity is close to being beyond the point of no return....reality has become blurred and has fractured into many delusional fragments.
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    Idk if this belongs here, but this whole news report is so "odd". In simple terms, it looks like a blood sacrifice to Saturn for the war. Check it out:
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyO1d...RlODBiNWFlZA==

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    "The War Is Not Meant To Be Won..." from the TBP



    War is a racket, always was a racket, and always will be a racket. The Deep State uses all their propaganda power, through control of the regime media, politicians on both sides of the aisle, social media conglomerates, and Wall Street to keep festering anger, discontent, outrage, and hate in order to keep the profits flowing into their coffers. The masses are manipulated into supporting the latest war through sophisticated techniques preying on their emotions and feelings, knowing they have been dumbed down by decades of government school indoctrination, disguised as education.

    So here we are, with our overlords generating the newest war. Next up will be another false flag to ignite outrage against Iran. Our military industrial complex and their spokesperson Lindsay Graham, can’t wait for that one. Just because these lords of war are greedy psychopaths, doesn’t mean they are intelligent or capable of seeing what happens when they go too far. Once the missiles start flying across the Middle East, the world will be forced to take sides, and then all hell will break loose. If we allow these war pigs to initiate their agenda, Armageddon is a distinctly possible outcome.


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    “War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.”

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    ref.: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2...t-to-be-won-3/
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    I don't think this has been posted — and in amongst intense media propaganda, including faked videos, photos and claims, I can't know for sure if this is real. But it's being widely reported on many channels.

    The text: (this is very graphic, whatever has happened here)

    WARNING: Here's what Israel did to the families that tried to flee Gaza AFTER Israel told them to flee. Here, you will see decapitated children and families ripped to literal shreds right in the middle of the road.

    https://twitter.com/Johnpatrick500/s...41929766281339

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