Trump is NOT the answer

[bojancan]

Trump is super human? Ja? So many years back I was younger, we already red about all Trump stuff, were not good ones for a super human... once again, I am not pro Biden.. not into all lame information in MSM.. and so passionately believing into this pretender and pathological liar?... NOT... he is NOT the answer!

At least 26 women accused President Donald Trump of sexual misconduct, including assault, since the 1970s.

A deluge of women made their accusations public following the October 2016 publication of the "Access Hollywood" tape, in which Trump was heard boasting about grabbing women's genitals in 2005. Some of Trump's accusers made their stories public months before the tape's release, and still others came forward in the months following.

Trump has broadly dismissed the allegations, which include harassment, groping, and rape, as "fabricated" and politically motivated accounts pushed by the media and his political opponents. In 2016, he promised to sue all of his accusers. In some cases, Trump and his lawyers have suggested he couldn't have engaged in the alleged behavior with certain women because he wasn't physically attracted to them.

"Every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign," the Republican presidential nominee said during a 2016 rally. "Total fabrication. The events never happened. Never. All of these liars will be sued after the election is over.”

The president said these "false allegations" against him were made by "women who got paid a lot of money to make up stories about me." And then alleged that the "mainstream media" refused to report evidence that the accusations were made up.

Trump has not yet made good on his promise to sue any of the women — although two women have sued him – and the White House says that Trump's election proves the American people don't consider the allegations disqualifying.

"The people of this country, at a decisive election, supported President Trump, and we feel like these allegations have been answered through that process," then-White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters in December 2017, after several of the president's accusers appeared on national television to rehash their allegations.

But despite Trump's denials, 50% of voters — 59% of women and 41% of men — surveyed in a December 2017 Quinnipiac poll think the president should resign as a result of the sexual misconduct allegations against him. Several Democratic lawmakers have previously called on Trump to resign over the accusations.

One accuser, Samantha Holvey, who spoke out in 2016 about her experience with Trump as a Miss USA pageant contestant, said in 2017 that while Trump's election was painful, she and others see the #MeToo movement as an opportunity to "try round two."

"We're private citizens, and for us to put ourselves out there to try and show America who this man is and especially how he views women, and for them to say 'meh, we don't care' — it hurts," Holvey said on NBC News' "Megyn Kelly Today" in December 2017. "And so now it's just like, all right, let's try round two. The environment's different. Let's try again."

In May 2023, a Manhattan jury found Trump liable for the sexual abuse of E. Jean Caroll in 1996, in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room, and found that he defamed her when he denied it. The jury did not find that Trump had raped Carroll, as detailed in her testimony.

Here are all of the allegations — in chronological order — made by 26 named women:

Allegations:

Jessica Leeds told the New York Times in October 2016 that Trump reached his hand up her skirt and groped her while seated next to her on a flight in the late 1970s.

"He was like an octopus. His hands were everywhere," Leeds said, adding that she fled to the back of the plane.

During an interview on NBC News' "Megyn Kelly Today" in December, Leeds added that she was at a gala in New York three years after the incident on the plane when she ran into Trump, who recognized her and called her a c---.

"He called me the worst name ever," she said. "It was shocking. It was like a bucket of cold water being thrown over me.”

Trump's response:

Trump denied the allegations and during a rally in October 2016, suggested that Leeds wasn't attractive enough for him to assault.

"People that are willing to say, 'Oh, I was with Donald Trump in 1980, I was sitting with him on an airplane, and he went after me,'" Trump said. "Believe me, she would not be my first choice.”



In a 1990 divorce deposition, Trump's first wife and the mother of his three eldest children Ivana Trump accused her then-husband of raping her in a fit of rage in 1989.

Ivana said Trump attacked her after he underwent a painful "scalp reduction" procedure done by a doctor she had recommended, tearing her clothes and yanking out a chunk of her hair.

"Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than 16 months. Ivana is terrified … It is a violent assault," Harry Hurt III, who obtained a copy of the deposition, wrote in a 1993 book about Trump. "According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, 'he raped me.'"

Ivana later slightly altered her allegation, saying that while she felt "violated" on that occasion, she hadn't accused Trump of raping her "in a literal or criminal sense."

"[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage," Ivana wrote in a 1993 statement. "As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a 'rape,' but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense."

Ivana is mother to Donald Jr., Eric, and Ivanka Trump.

Trump's response:

Trump called Hurt's description of Ivana's allegation "obviously false" in 1993, according to Newsday. Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, argued in 2015 that his client could not have raped Ivana because "you cannot rape your spouse."

"There's very clear case law," he said.

Cohen later recanted, saying his comment was "inarticulate.”

More about 26 Women… here:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wome...t-list-2017-12

[bojancan]

DJT should be penalized... for collecting money to be used for one purpose... but applying it elsewhere.... There should be some kind of ruling that prohibits this.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hNhD9fdxTLA

[TargeT]

Posted by bojancan (here)
More about 26 Women… here:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wome...t-list-2017-12

Funny how these acusations only come out when they could damage someone's public perspective right before it's important.....

That alone makes me think of this as art

Posted by bojancan (here)
DJT should be penalized... for collecting money to be used for one purpose... but applying it elsewhere.... There should be some kind of ruling that prohibits this.

Don't hate the player?

There should be some kind of law prohibiting that, and anyone in government investing, and so much more.... but there isn't (currently).

[DNA]

Bojan

Do you like critical race theory?
Do you like having pronouns forced on you?
Do you like gender dysphoria? Puberty blockers?
Do you like climate change government sanctions killing economic growth in the West while China and India get to take full advantage and take over all production of manufacturing?

Do you like forced vaccinations?

Do you like full term babies being aborted all in the name of feminism and women's rights?

Did you ever wonder how and why so many countries fell into line with all of this at exactly the same time?

It's Globalism. The further centralization of Global power systematically being appropriated regardless of the wants, needs and or desires of the citizenry.

Are you a fan of forced immigration proposed for changing demographics?

The third world Muslim jihadists flooding into western countries ?

I speak the truth.

Your concerns are misplaced.
Satanic pedophiles orchestrate globalism.
Or rather satanic pedophile, ritual baby sacrificing genocidal depopulation self proclaimed philanthrophists orchestrate globalism.

And in the other corner you have Donald Trump pushing Nationalism who is occasionally guilty of a mean tweet and a little misogyny.

It's either Trump or the Globalists buddy.
There is no other choice.

I choose Donald Trump with a little misogyny thank you.

[thepainterdoug]

DNA/ Thanks. totally agreed. Most people who have followed me here would believe I am the biggest most one sided Trump Lover. To be honest, prior to his election win, I knew very little about him, never followed him and didn't really care one way or the other.

I was a so call Liberal democrat ! , even voting for Obama, after we had our awful fill of GW BUSH, the second worse president in my lifetime behind the NO 1 clown shuffling around in the fake office now. And to say that, that anyone is worse than Bush? is quite a statement from me.

you see, I am anti war. Wars are fabricated and the fabricators never fight or die in them. Its the average everyday citizen that does as they make millions in contracts and behind the scene deals. Nothing more despicable.

So when DJTrump won, I was like, hey Im open to it !! , lets see, not carrying any pre programmed hate into my opinion .

So, he works for free, No started wars !!! , he goes out and makes connections to Kim Jung, Putin, Chi and so on, gave us energy independence , a closed or guarded border, no fetynal , child trafficking, etc, lowered prescription drug costs for seniors and much more, this had me say hey!! this is a good start.

We need a tough captain, and once we right this ship, the constitution upheld again, the rule of law , the law agencies returned to an even hand for everyone, the courts to a sense of justice, then I will look at it. In the meantime, Ill weather some boo hoo bad insensitive comments from him.

And If any lib, anti Trump biden supporter doesn't save and offer a room or space in their yard for some of the thousands a day Illegals crossing the border into this country then shut up, and then wake up.

Ok, back to Trump derangement syndrome

[bojancan]

I see Trump as opportunist... I am not globalist, for 50 years very into truth circles... in EU and where I am living now.. I am nearly 80, but hijacking truth movement as Trump is doing is very evident here in this moments of ours... into our faces. He was all his life friends with all those people on the left, criminals as Roy Cohn, Epstein, Murdochs, Maxwells, Clintons etc... we know him, because of Ivana, first wife. Followed his deeds and behaviour through his unethical life.. I do not respect this man, nor believe in anything he stand for... he is just there, where he is now, for himself... only for himself. He is a Pretender at large! As his wife Melania...
Crazy people becoming more crazy with this kind of opportunists and this con man! Here is great assessment of the ultimate CON man !!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ij7fUmLvlNM

[thepainterdoug]

BOJANCAN

Have a good holiday.
pd

[Pris]

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Posted by DNA (here)
Do you like full term babies being aborted all in the name of feminism and women's rights?

The globalists certainly want it to appear that way (they actually hate women and motherhood). I think you got part of the real reason here:

Posted by DNA (here)
Satanic pedophiles....
....satanic pedophile, ritual baby sacrificing genocidal depopulation self proclaimed philanthrophists....

Plus this: Big Pharma and the cosmetics industry use the baby parts (e.g. stem cell research etc.) and so does the food industry for things like growing, essentially, 'artificial tongues' to 'taste food' and oh, so much more...

Globalists are a group of perverse, psychopathic democidal death cult cannibals... They project everything they are onto others knowing they will hook a few useful idiots along the way who are willing to play their game. I mean, how else would you describe them.

Posted by DNA (here)
I choose Donald Trump with a little misogyny thank you.

Quite. And, I'd suggest that Trump's so-called misogyny is highly overrated by precisely the same people I just described. I mean, they won't even let you be a normal guy in this world. They want males to chop off their twig and berries, wave rainbow flags, and kneel at the altar of Baphomet. Seriously.

[Mike]

I actually agree with the thread title: I don't think Trump is THE answer.

But I think he is A answer (among many).

It's vitally important he be our next president. But that's only step one out of like a thousand that must follow.

The radical left have been operating under our noses for years now. There's lots of catch-up to do. I never thought I'd be saying this, but conservatives have to become activists.

If winning on the issues were the only thing that mattered, we could all sit on our hands and sleep easy. But the radical left are dishonest actors and control most of our media. And - crucially - their foot soldiers are very, very active, infiltrating school boards, human resource departments, and even things like affinity groups!

Conservatives have to do the same. Trump can't do it on his own. Conservatives and heterodox people in general (which is what I consider myself to be) have to be just as dedicated and zealous as the left...marching in the streets, getting involved with local government, showing up at school board meetings, financially supporting those that support our values and cutting ties with those who don't, and so forth.

[TargeT]

Posted by Mike (here)
I actually agree with the thread title: I don't think Trump is THE answer.

But I think he is A answer (among many).

I think we can all agree that situations, previously used social movements, almost everything has exacerbated to a level that is almost obvious.

Why would this not be true for "the lesser of two evils" that has plagued the US election system for as long as I can remember.


I duno, are things different now or has the context just slightly changed so that we think it is (just like every generation seems to have done that I have looked into)?

[Mike]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
I actually agree with the thread title: I don't think Trump is THE answer.

But I think he is A answer (among many).

I think we can all agree that situations, previously used social movements, almost everything has exacerbated to a level that is almost obvious.

Why would this not be true for "the lesser of two evils" that has plagued the US election system for as long as I can remember.


I duno, are things different now or has the context just slightly changed so that we think it is (just like every generation seems to have done that I have looked into)?

Hey TargeT, did your A.I. program write this?

Can you rephrase a little? I wanna make sure I know exactly what you mean before I reply.

[TargeT]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
I actually agree with the thread title: I don't think Trump is THE answer.

But I think he is A answer (among many).

I think we can all agree that situations, previously used social movements, almost everything has exacerbated to a level that is almost obvious.

Why would this not be true for "the lesser of two evils" that has plagued the US election system for as long as I can remember.


I duno, are things different now or has the context just slightly changed so that we think it is (just like every generation seems to have done that I have looked into)?

Hey TargeT, did your A.I. program write this?

Can you rephrase a little? I wanna make sure I know exactly what you mean before I reply.

Not sure I can currently< i ge4t an iron infusion tomorrow, I'll be more clear then


err, in a few hours I guess... haha insomnia is wild

[bojancan]

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas exposes Donald Trump’s latest deranged attack on the New York judge Arthur Engoron, who Trump and his minions continue to defame.

A politician has the right to lie... they say!!!!

That may be true... but, a defendant does not... This happening should be flagged for use later on.. because during election season, anyone who isn't totally MAGA infected... yes, infected... who likes to think, that they still have a shred of fairness and decency, would have to acknowledge, how terrible this is, even for Trump!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hkmmNWM_Ff4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cn8Wf6LML-k

[TargeT]

Posted by Mike (here)
Can you rephrase a little? I wanna make sure I know exactly what you mean before I reply.

I dunno, "everything old is new" seems to be happening again, we are yet again at some very contrived pivotal moment (but perhaps a bit more escalated than before). Just like the Road the El Darado, The man who Would be king, Pocahontas, Star-gate and Avatar all seem to be different movies, but are actually point for plot point exactly the same with just the context changed.

I'm getting heavy "Ron Paul" vibes, in the backing and hype as well as the complete lack of any meaningful change.

maybe that's better articulated?

[bojancan]

George is very conservative.... but I love the way he goes after Drumpf... his appearance insightfully delicious his analysis of Drumpf...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nMvRDX8FGeY

[Mike]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Can you rephrase a little? I wanna make sure I know exactly what you mean before I reply.

I dunno, "everything old is new" seems to be happening again, we are yet again at some very contrived pivotal moment (but perhaps a bit more escalated than before). Just like the Road the El Darado, The man who Would be king, Pocahontas, Star-gate and Avatar all seem to be different movies, but are actually point for plot point exactly the same with just the context changed.

I'm getting heavy "Ron Paul" vibes, in the backing and hype as well as the complete lack of any meaningful change.

maybe that's better articulated?

Oh yeah for sure. You've articulated it perfectly.

Interesting you'd say that. I'm listening to a video that explains quite a bit of that phenomenon to my satisfaction.

We're being exposed to the same tricks, just dressed up a little differently each time. The ultimate goal, seems to me, is some kind of Neo-Marxist takeover...a one world communist state. I'm gonna start a thread on it to really flesh it out.

P.S. I can't believe I've still never seen any of those movies

[TargeT]

Posted by Mike (here)
P.S. I can't believe I've still never seen any of those movies

You didn't spend 13 years in Alaska trying to find a way to avoid bars like I did.. haha the joy of life is that we all have vastly different experiential difference, in my mind; that's the entire purpose of consciousness.

[Vangelo]

My closest friend, a Muslim immigrant from Algeria, told me today that he misses Trump and is going to vote for him in 2024. He also thinks his wife (who is also a Muslim immigrant from Algeria) and some of his kids (they were all born here in the US) will as well. They did not vote for Trump in 2016 because they thought he was a racist etc. He said he now realized it was all BS... I was shocked.

[bojancan]

I'm with Cohen... I just don't understand, what his supporters see!!! I just see the Man... con man... Trump!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5BiC4eS0evE

Kinzinger hit Trump where it really hurts... right in his ego... But MAGA's people are painting pictures of Trump as a beautiful handsome hero... so fake!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=68_v2I9oU4U

[DNA]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
DNA/ Thanks. totally agreed. Most people who have followed me here would believe I am the biggest most one sided Trump Lover. To be honest, prior to his election win, I knew very little about him, never followed him and didn't really care one way or the other.

I was a so call Liberal democrat ! , even voting for Obama, after we had our awful fill of GW BUSH, the second worse president in my lifetime behind the NO 1 clown shuffling around in the fake office now. And to say that, that anyone is worse than Bush? is quite a statement from me.

you see, I am anti war. Wars are fabricated and the fabricators never fight or die in them. Its the average everyday citizen that does as they make millions in contracts and behind the scene deals. Nothing more despicable.

So when DJTrump won, I was like, hey Im open to it !! , lets see, not carrying any pre programmed hate into my opinion .

So, he works for free, No started wars !!! , he goes out and makes connections to Kim Jung, Putin, Chi and so on, gave us energy independence , a closed or guarded border, no fetynal , child trafficking, etc, lowered prescription drug costs for seniors and much more, this had me say hey!! this is a good start.

We need a tough captain, and once we right this ship, the constitution upheld again, the rule of law , the law agencies returned to an even hand for everyone, the courts to a sense of justice, then I will look at it. In the meantime, Ill weather some boo hoo bad insensitive comments from him.

And If any lib, anti Trump biden supporter doesn't save and offer a room or space in their yard for some of the thousands a day Illegals crossing the border into this country then shut up, and then wake up.

Ok, back to Trump derangement syndrome

Doug it's as if we followed the same path to our present situation.

I too voted for Obama the first time around.
And I felt like the biggest sucker when he reneged on all of his campaign promises.
Quantamino, The Patriot Act? The Natinal Defense Act.
Overturning the Smith/Mundt Act which legalized Government sponsored propaganda to be used on American citizens.
The wars.
Libya.
The creation of Isis as a proxy army to do the dirty deeds he didn't want to dirty his hands with.
The drones raining bombs on people all across the middle east.

Trump did none of these things.
He started no wars and tried to end the ones we were in.

Any way yeah, I hate war as well.

Trump He had his AG arrest Epstien.
He just underestimated the deep state.

Yeah I'm with you bro.