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    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1739050633016082767



    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1739048823425523832



    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1739043279520334311



    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1739058372023038446



    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1739016846597337212





    [url]https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1739028241812279599


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    Do any of you even look at the other side of the coin? There are two sides, three actually but the point is many seem to be unaware of some basic facts here. Hamas brings up their children from a young age to hate Jews and they teach them that they must kill them and that it is honorable to do so and die doing it so that from a young age they are ingrained with this hatred and the desire to wipe them out and take back land they say is theirs.
    Let me educate you some to the nature of these Muslims in this particular sect. Recently in news headlines and even on X and I'm sure FB a young beautiful Iraqi woman, "Miss Iraq" took a selfie with another beautiful woman, "Miss Israel" and they were smiling and it was very charming. After this the hate attacks began on her and her parents to the point she had to evacuate them from Iraq to save their lives. She is banned now from going back and receiving death threats, called a traitor and a spy among many other things and all for a simple selfie. She sought refuge where? In Israel where she was welcomed and cared for and received warmth and sympathy. No one wants to see this tho. Why? This problem is not the Jewish hatred of a people it's the other way around entirely and knowing this you can begin to understand why others that know these things and more say such statements as Senator Fetterman and Elon Musk and others. Hamas feels this same way about you reading this too if you are American, Christian, non demoninational, or evven Muslim if you make one wrong move in their eyes. The problem is Hamas and the only solution is just Fetterman suggested. Those people are never going to change and Jewish people know it. It's high time you wake up to it also.
    Selfie w/ Miss Israel and Miss Iraq

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    Do any of you even look at the other side of the coin? There are two sides, three actually but the point is many seem to be unaware of some basic facts here. Hamas brings up their children from a young age to hate Jews and they teach them that they must kill them and that it is honorable to do so and die doing it so that from a young age they are ingrained with this hatred and the desire to wipe them out and take back land they say is theirs.
    Let me educate you some to the nature of these Muslims in this particular sect. Recently in news headlines and even on X and I'm sure FB a young beautiful Iraqi woman, "Miss Iraq" took a selfie with another beautiful woman, "Miss Israel" and they were smiling and it was very charming. After this the hate attacks began on her and her parents to the point she had to evacuate them from Iraq to save their lives. She is banned now from going back and receiving death threats, called a traitor and a spy among many other things and all for a simple selfie. She sought refuge where? In Israel where she was welcomed and cared for and received warmth and sympathy. No one wants to see this tho. Why? This problem is not the Jewish hatred of a people it's the other way around entirely and knowing this you can begin to understand why others that know these things and more say such statements as Senator Fetterman and Elon Musk and others. Hamas feels this same way about you reading this too if you are American, Christian, non demoninational, or evven Muslim if you make one wrong move in their eyes. The problem is Hamas and the only solution is just Fetterman suggested. Those people are never going to change and Jewish people know it. It's high time you wake up to it also.
    Selfie w/ Miss Israel and Miss Iraq

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8112011.html
    Hi R. Yes, I look at both sides, but l’m not who l figure this question is to. I do find it odd, given the claimed goals of this forum, to see trending bloodlust justified on grounds that appear political. And I am no fan of Israel or even Jews, nor of their opposition.

    Am glad you posted this challenge to the Avalon status quo. I hope there will be some earnest rebuttals.

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    [...] Hamas brings up their children from a young age to hate Jews and they teach them that they must kill them and that it is honorable to do so and die doing it so that from a young age they are ingrained with this hatred and the desire to wipe them out and take back land they say is theirs.
    [...]
    Try the following for contrast:

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Text:

    🚨PRCS views with great concern the targeting by the occupation artillery of the maternity ward in Nasser Medical Complex in #KhanYounis, leading to several casualties.

    ⚠️This violation is a serious indication of targeting hospitals and medical centers that enjoy protection and immunity according to international humanitarian law. We call on international community to provide full protection for medical teams and hospitals.
    #Gaza
    #NotATarget ❌

    https://x.com/PalestineRCS/status/1736490577854599171



    https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1736498492980294017

    This is the young girl that Max Blumenthal was referring to on the Judge Napolitano show.

    Here is the story,
    https://x.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status...11133233701150

    ~~~

    Thank you so much for this post
    . I was going to go back to transcribe exactly what Max Blumenthal said, but you kindly spared me the task.

    I wasn't looking forward to doing that. The terrible story, which I'd been unaware of, hit me as hard as anything else which I'd heard all year. I had some trouble getting to sleep as I could not get this out of my mind. That almost never happens to me.

    Here's the entire video, which is as strong a report about the Gaza situations one is likely to hear from anyone. Max recounts what happened to Dounia Abu Mohsen at 21:34. Napolitano gasped when he heard the story.


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    BREAKING:

    ⚡ 🇮🇱🇮🇷 Reports of the martyrdom of one among the IRGC's top generals in Syria as a result of Israel's airstrike on Damascus

    Reportedly, the martyred general is Seyyed Razi Mousavi, one of the IRGC's top commanders in Syria who was a personal friend of martyr Qasem Soleimani

    This is a major escalation between Israel and Iran.

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    BREAKING:

    ⚡ 🇮🇷 Iranian President:

    "Israel will undoubtedly pay for this heinous crime"

    'Israel on highest state of alert, awaiting possible Iranian response' - the Kann / N12 announced.

    Reportedly, Brigadier-General Mousavi was in charge of logistics and arms shipments to Hezbollah and Iranian-backed groups in Syria

    Israeli media are describing him as the 'highest ranking' Iranian official killed since Qasem Soleimani.

    *Iran is acting very "patiently" and the answer will probably come after some time. In my opinion, Iran will also close the Mediterranean for commercial ships going to Israel, with kamikaze drones from Lebanon and will plunge Israel into a dangerous economic crisis and lack of many goods.

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    BREAKING:

    Reports of the martyrdom of one among the IRGC's top generals in Syria as a result of Israel's airstrike on Damascus
    An important explanatory note: the IRGC is the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, a primary branch of the Iranian Armed Forces.



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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    Do any of you even look at the other side of the coin? There are two sides, three actually but the point is many seem to be unaware of some basic facts here. Hamas brings up their children from a young age to hate Jews and they teach them that they must kill them and that it is honorable to do so and die doing it so that from a young age they are ingrained with this hatred and the desire to wipe them out and take back land they say is theirs.
    Let me educate you some to the nature of these Muslims in this particular sect.
    Thank you! But the 'education' may go both ways.
    Former Israeli Knesset member calls on the complete destruction of Gaza

    In an interview on Israeli channel 13, Danny Neumann, a former Israeli Knesset member, calls for the destruction of Gaza.

    "I tell you, in Gaza without exception, they are all terrorists, sons of dogs. They must be terminated, all of them must be killed," he said.

    "We will flatten Gaza, turn them to dust, and the army will cleanse the area. Then we will start building new areas for us, above all, for our security."

    https://twitter.com/MiddleEastEye/st...86728979320900

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    Recently in news headlines and even on X and I'm sure FB a young beautiful Iraqi woman, "Miss Iraq" took a selfie with another beautiful woman, "Miss Israel" and they were smiling and it was very charming. After this the hate attacks began on her and her parents to the point she had to evacuate them from Iraq to save their lives. She is banned now from going back and receiving death threats, called a traitor and a spy among many other things and all for a simple selfie. She sought refuge where? In Israel where she was welcomed and cared for and received warmth and sympathy.
    Selfie w/ Miss Israel and Miss Iraq

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8112011.html
    But this all happened in 2017, and she has been a US citizen since 2015...

    Quote The one-time beauty queen — who represented Iraq in Miss Universe in 2017 and faced death threats after befriending and snapping a selfie with Miss Israel -— aims to throw her tiara in the ring for a California congressional run, she told The Post.

    The political neophyte and Los Angeles resident said she has yet to file paperwork with the Federal Election Commission.
    Quote At 18, she volunteered with the US Army in Iraq as a translator and left her family in Iraq behind for America about two years later, and became a US citizen in 2015.
    https://nypost.com/2023/03/18/beauty...-dem-wokeness/

    I know little about this woman, but a quick search of her name quickly revealed the above.
    I haven't watched this (below), but found it on youtube channel "Jonny Gould's Jewish State podcast".

    And her wikipedia page has different info than the article above about 2017. It's all somewhat fishy, and probably should be investigated further.
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    A Palestinian woman whose son was killed by a bomb in front of her, said she saw her son in her dream, in Jannah (Paradise). She asked him: “Ya mama. Oh, my beloved son, what happened to you? Are you okay? Did it hurt you?”

    The boy said, “I don't know what happened to me, mummy. I was running towards you when you were calling out to me. I was running towards our house. And then suddenly I… I saw myself running in garden. That's it.”

    The Mother asked him, “Did you get hurt? Did it hurt you?

    “No. I just felt like a big pinch. It pinched me, and then I was running here, in Jannah.”

    View the full story here: https://youtu.be/M3fJDpnZPPQ?si=fHjYmxmrjaB4tNeh

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    Tonight Al-Bureij refuge camp


    https://x.com/OnlinePalEng/status/1739498343993159706



    Yesterday Al-Bureij refuge camp


    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1739250888689197325




    https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1739450963998507451





    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1739228239300808771

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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    It's all somewhat fishy, and probably should be investigated further.
    Totally agree

    She's a dual Iraqi & US citizen. And she was employed at a US army base in Baghdad

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    And about those threats she says she received from Iraq. Thing is, Iraqi ladies didn't even know who Sarah was at the time

    Quote Sarah Idan, as Miss Iraq, as she is described- we don't know where that contest was, and no one knows her
    Dr. Nada Al-Jubouri, President of the Iraqi Women & Future Organization
    That didn't stop Sarah speaking on behalf of for her country Israel I mean, USA I mean, Iraq

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    And running for Council of Representatives of Iraq sorry, US House of Representatives

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    Because representing California’s 30th District is the best place to represent Iraq

    Quote By being in US Congress, I will make sure the Iraqi government is committed to providing for the needs of the Iraqi people
    Not saying she's a spook. Just that theres some shady shades of Mossad & CIA shadiness about her

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    This is war. And the Israeli tank crew, who are unlikely to have survived, must have known what they were letting themselves in for. This is the reality of the kind of losses the Israelis are suffering now.

    One might have sympathy for them, of course. But they were in Gaza specifically to kill anyone they could. That's the Israeli doctrine — to kill everyone. Anyone who doesn't believe that now is deceiving themselves.

    This extraordinary video, just 50 seconds long and which has been reposted on every Telegram channel reporting on the war in Gaza, shows with crystal clarity how Israel can never win on the ground there.



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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    Do any of you even look at the other side of the coin? There are two sides, three actually but the point is many seem to be unaware of some basic facts here. Hamas brings up their children from a young age to hate Jews and they teach them that they must kill them and that it is honorable to do so and die doing it so that from a young age they are ingrained with this hatred and the desire to wipe them out and take back land they say is theirs.
    Let me educate you some to the nature of these Muslims in this particular sect. Recently in news headlines and even on X and I'm sure FB a young beautiful Iraqi woman, "Miss Iraq" took a selfie with another beautiful woman, "Miss Israel" and they were smiling and it was very charming. After this the hate attacks began on her and her parents to the point she had to evacuate them from Iraq to save their lives. She is banned now from going back and receiving death threats, called a traitor and a spy among many other things and all for a simple selfie. She sought refuge where? In Israel where she was welcomed and cared for and received warmth and sympathy. No one wants to see this tho. Why? This problem is not the Jewish hatred of a people it's the other way around entirely and knowing this you can begin to understand why others that know these things and more say such statements as Senator Fetterman and Elon Musk and others. Hamas feels this same way about you reading this too if you are American, Christian, non demoninational, or evven Muslim if you make one wrong move in their eyes. The problem is Hamas and the only solution is just Fetterman suggested. Those people are never going to change and Jewish people know it. It's high time you wake up to it also.
    Selfie w/ Miss Israel and Miss Iraq

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8112011.html
    Hi R. Yes, I look at both sides, but l’m not who l figure this question is to. I do find it odd, given the claimed goals of this forum, to see trending bloodlust justified on grounds that appear political. And I am no fan of Israel or even Jews, nor of their opposition.

    Am glad you posted this challenge to the Avalon status quo. I hope there will be some earnest rebuttals.
    You see trending bloodlust here on Avalon? Please point some examples out as I must have missed them.

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    I look at both sides, but l’m not who l figure this question is to. I do find it odd, given the claimed goals of this forum, to see trending bloodlust justified on grounds that appear political. And I am no fan of Israel or even Jews, nor of their opposition.

    Am glad you posted this challenge to the Avalon status quo. I hope there will be some earnest rebuttals.
    You see trending bloodlust here on Avalon? Please point some examples out as I must have missed them.
    Here's a rebuttal. Do take a look at the Should Christians support Israeli military action? thread. Neither you nor Ratzinger has been there yet. There's really quite a lot there.


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