Why Do The Woke Support Palestine?

[DNA]

This entire situation feels orchestrated and manipulated.

The initial attack on Israel feels like a false flag to legitimize the genocidal actions then taken by Israel.

What appears to be taking place now is a battle for the hearts and minds of the population.
In America it appears the conservative base is aligning with Israel based on religious sympathy and comraderie.

The woke or left seem to be always in opposition of all things conservative.
So this gives them a lean in towards the Palestinians.
Also...
The left give credence and philosophical homage to the biggest and most obvious victim.
So that puts a check in the Palestinian box.

The tactic at work I see...
To further link the Palestinian/Muslims with the left and woke.
Creating a synergy where regardless of differences the woke embrace Palestinian/Muslims.
And to clearly define who the enemy is in the eyes of Muslim/Palestinians.
That would be Christian conservatives.

This helps to establish battle lines as civil war in the United States and similar in Europe become apparent.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by DNA (here)
To further link the Palestinian/Muslims with the left and woke.

Yes, maybe to discourage regular aware libertarians from associating themselves with any pro-Palestinian cause that appears to be a 'woke' agenda. That really does fit.

[xeon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
To further link the Palestinian/Muslims with the left and woke.

Yes, maybe to discourage regular aware libertarians from associating themselves with any pro-Palestinian cause that appears to be a 'woke' agenda. That really does fit.

Bill, you might be aware that in recent years, China has been going around making alliances with practically the entire Muslim world.

From Saudi Arabia, to Iran, to the UAE, to the Taliban of Afghanistan (who practice full fledged Syariah law).

Here is an example.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...es-2023-10-14/

Saudi Arabia has made Mandarin a compulsory school subject.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...er-middle-east

Even to the extent of making Saudi Arabia and Iran "make peace" with one another. Incredible. Or is it?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...tion-says-wang

I've asked many Muslims why are they fine with allying with Communist (atheist) China. One believes in a god, while the other is an avowed atheist.

And I've gotten no answer at all. Not once.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by xeon (here)
I've asked many Muslims why are they fine with allying with Communist (atheist) China. One believes in a god, while the other is an avowed atheist.

And I've gotten no answer at all. Not once.

Maybe simply that shared prosperity, increased global influence, and the defeat or minimizing of the despised US are all also important considerations, and that religious principles aren't actually the prime driving factor?

[xeon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by xeon (here)
I've asked many Muslims why are they fine with allying with Communist (atheist) China. One believes in a god, while the other is an avowed atheist.

And I've gotten no answer at all. Not once.

Maybe simply that shared prosperity, increased global influence, and the defeat or minimizing of the despised US are all also important considerations, and that religious principles aren't actually the prime driving factor?

Probably. They all have a mutual enemy. United in hatred it may seem. If Iran and Saudi Arabia who call each other heretics and have been warring with each other for hundreds of years could somehow make peace with one another at the behest of China, this is definitely no small thing.

They are also teaching their small kids in the kindergartens to hate Israel (while in China they teach their kids to hate America). Ironically, the Chinese Mandarin word for America is Mei Guo, which translates to "beautiful country".

Why so much hate?

Even Joe Biden seems to be helping the "cause". Recall the hasty exit of the US from Afghanistan, leaving billions of dollars of equipment behind, only for the Taliban to retrieve and then, welcome the Chinese envoy shortly after, their one and only foreign envoy at the time, it would appear.

https://www.rferl.org/a/china-taliba.../32591143.html

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Mike (here)
You wanna take over Mark? I think you're much better at this than me!

You carry on! I don't have too much to say on the woke mind virus I haven't said before, and plenty of times. I should add though, gender-theory and its origins didn't spring out of perversion alone. It's one prong of many in the multi-pronged attack against Western culture and traditional living. The ultimate goal may have something to do with depopulation down the line. The birth-rate is trending down as it is. What will it be twenty years from now if half the population is trans?

As for the OP, why are the woke getting behind Palestine? I think you already nailed it Mike. They see Palestine as an oppressed group, and it triggers their outrage by default (that they're right for once is more or less irrelevant). The woke are far too dim to realise that the Palestinians would most likely despise them for the other things they believe. Many of us support Palestine, or strongly sympathise with their plight, because of the barbarity of it, because of the cruel treatment of what we see as our fellow human being. It has nothing to do with race, religion, politics, regional history or any of that. The woke movements supports Palestine because their narcissism demands it.

[Mike]

Posted by DNA (here)
This entire situation feels orchestrated and manipulated.

The initial attack on Israel feels like a false flag to legitimize the genocidal actions then taken by Israel.

What appears to be taking place now is a battle for the hearts and minds of the population.
In America it appears the conservative base is aligning with Israel based on religious sympathy and comraderie.

I think that's an accurate summary.

It's become very taboo to say anything in favor of Palestine here in the U.S. What's interesting is that the woke left are now the one's being censored, and they've suddenly discovered an enthusiasm for free speech!

[Mike]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
The woke are far too dim to realise that the Palestinians would most likely despise them for the other things they believe.

For sure.

I've mentioned the symbol of the uroboros many times on the forum; it's the snake that eats it's own tail. Which is a perfect representation of the woke left and the inevitable result of identity politics.

No matter where one ranks on the intersectional victim scale, and no matter how oppressed they imagine themselves to be, they will always be an oppressor on at least one dimension.

The Jews are a minority. They've been historically marginalized/oppressed and the Muslims have historically been aggressive colonizers. You'd think the Jews would earn enough intersectional credit on the strength of those 2 things alone.

Perhaps, but not enough to win the support of the woke in this conflict. Because in the intersectional hierarchy of victimhood, it's far more egregious that white or "white adjacent" aggressors (Jews) are bullying and bludgeoning "people of color" (Palestinians), and "colonizing" their land (the irony of course being that a large proportion of Jews in Israel are "people of color"... and that, as you say, those woke supporters would not get a warm welcome in Palestine).

This has confused quite a few Jews, particularly on college campuses. Once solidly ensconced in the good graces of the woke(and firmly in the "oppressed" category) they now find themselves as the "oppressors". Classic case of the woke eating the woke.

It's very crude and silly, but that's how simple the woke/Marxist framework is.

[Mike]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by xeon (here)
I've asked many Muslims why are they fine with allying with Communist (atheist) China. One believes in a god, while the other is an avowed atheist.

And I've gotten no answer at all. Not once.

Maybe simply that shared prosperity, increased global influence, and the defeat or minimizing of the despised US are all also important considerations, and that religious principles aren't actually the prime driving factor?

I think so! They connect over their shared hatred of the U.S., but the alliance is tenuous at best.

I was going to start another thread called "Is Palestine a Communist Project?", but I'm far too lazy!

The communists have a history of aiding the Muslims, the goal being disruption and the hope of creating a communist state...but they always underestimate the conviction of the Muslims! They're not nearly as malleable as those of us in the west.

[xeon]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by xeon (here)
I've asked many Muslims why are they fine with allying with Communist (atheist) China. One believes in a god, while the other is an avowed atheist.

And I've gotten no answer at all. Not once.

Maybe simply that shared prosperity, increased global influence, and the defeat or minimizing of the despised US are all also important considerations, and that religious principles aren't actually the prime driving factor?

I think so! They connect over their shared hatred of the U.S., but the alliance is tenuous at best.

I was going to start another thread called "Is Palestine a Communist Project?", but I'm far too lazy!

The communists have a history of aiding the Muslims, the goal being disruption and the hope of creating a communist state...but they always underestimate the conviction of the Muslims! They're not nearly as malleable as those of us in the west.

Here are Palestinians (presumably Muslim) calling on Kim Jong Un and Putin to save them. Don't they know the reputations of these two dictators?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeh8MGuQMbI

The Muslim world is united in hating Israel over its war, but the Yemeni war with a staggering 400,000 dead seems to have no outrage whatsoever.

Neither are the Xinjiang Uyghurs being oppressed/genocided getting much, if any support. People would rather say the Xinjiang issue is "Western propaganda" in utter cognitive dissonance (even when shown photos of the camps). Similar to smokers who buy cigarettes despite all the gory pictures of lung cancer being displayed on the boxes.

Muslim Rohingyas with a similar situation as the Palestinians (in being displaced from their homeland) are also not getting much love....

Seems to me, the agenda is global NWO Communist/Marxist govt utilizing AI/Technology, and they have swayed much of the world to their "cause" (whether people realize it or not is another matter).

If you add up the population of China, Russia, and the Muslim world, that is about 40% of the world population already. Add in Africa and Latin America (whom China has greatly extended influence over) and all the Woke/Liberal/Leftists in the West, and it's about 70% of the world at least.

It will be much higher if India is in their camp, but I put India into the wildcard camp, although they are in BRICS. Simply because India and China are of two diametrically opposing forces in terms of culture, and just how they think.

India has their caste system which goes back thousands of years. This is against China's socialist mindset. Right and Left again....

The Left are NOT the minority (by now), but in the Marxist mind, they are still fighting a "Revolution" against the West.

Because humans only consider the physical military aspect as always (mighty big and bad USA army).

I'm far more concerned with the mental and unseen aspects. Even the spiritual aspects.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by xeon (here)
Here are Palestinians (presumably Muslim) calling on Kim Jong Un and Putin to save them. Don't they know the reputations of these two dictators?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeh8MGuQMbI

Kim Jung Un, a dictator for sure.

But regarding the 'reputation' of Putin, what you wrote seemed a little worrying, because many here might conclude your knowledge of the history of all this may be a little incomplete.

It's possible that you don't know all the history, which of course is quite forgivable as there's a lot to know! The WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia thread contains a lot of good information, as does The Putin Thread. It does seem you may never have visited or read either of them.



Back to your post: Putin won't intervene militarily, as Russia would almost certainly be nuked by the Israelis, some of whom are determined to bring on Armageddon (literally). Russia would survive, of course, while Israel would be annihilated. But all that would be VERY likely to trigger a full-fledged WWIII that would surely bring in the US and others.

Instead, Russia has been quietly working very hard within the UN Security Council (in alliance with the other BRICS states, including the UAE and Egypt) to attain a ceasefire. It's only the US that has been vehemently opposing that. A UNSC-mandated ceasefire will come sometime within the next month or two, as the US can't hold out on this forever. Russia has a great deal of experience within the UNSC, and is using all its diplomatic skills to steer the UNSC into a positive declaration.

But none of that, though it's important, has anything to do with the 'woke' supporting Palestine.

[Kryztian]

Some Zionist propagandists are trying to convince the west that Israel is the only socially progressive place in the Middle East. Here are some GLBT activists that are not falling for it and are revolted by "Pink Washing", the attempt to justify horrific crimes (here: genocide) by saying "but, hey, we are GLBT supportive."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mq-3WRvtiqk

[Mike]

The woke eating the woke here once again, and another demonstration of their strangely ironic support of Palestine:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JUlBA4GvFfw

[Mike]

And here we go again...

Another mentally ill, woke lunatic exploiting the Gaza situation in a vain attempt to satiate her bottomless pit of demonic narcissism...this time threatening the lives of city council members in the process.

She was arrested, and openly wept at her arraignment. I went back and watched that crying part at least 6 times. Her tears were an absolute tonic, and I've been smiling broadly ever since.

Little over 4 mins:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rRsOlasqZLg

[Bill Ryan]

I'm starting to think we need a new Avalon subforum titled Clown World.

New on Zero Hedge. You can't make this stuff up.

• https://zerohedge.com/geopolitical/w...free-palestine

Watch: Drag Queen Makes Tiny Kids Chant "Free Palestine"

[norman]

Dear readers,

Think . . .

Remember . . .

An old book title . . . .

"Morals and Dogma" - by Albert Pike (1871).


but . . . it might as well be a brand new title from 2024


His vision was to set up Zionists against Islamicists to fight and collapse so the NWO can take over. To do that he first had to set up Zionists with a recognisable territory to have the fight about. That was ww2. Before that could happen he had to eliminate the legacy fiefdoms, that was ww1.

The only statesman with any clout I can see anywhere in the world who is visibly opposed to the completion of that 3 stage plan is Vladimir Putin. Xi is watching and waiting, Biden is stoking the internal division and Trump is sabre rattling for the Zionists under the cover of Jade Helm 5D chess. (Well, it WAS undercover, until he actually told Israel to "Finish The Job" a couple of months back)

Your sincerely,
Disgusted.



https://t.me/HammerTimeQNews/30772

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Watch: Drag Queen Makes Tiny Kids Chant "Free Palestine"

Utterly berserk. For a start that's not a teacher - more like an activist, and that's troubling enough. But barking politics to a bunch of pre-schoolers is next level ridiculous. I remember vividly when I was kid (much older than these), in Junior School, listening to Mr. Jones ranting at us about the horrors taking place in Kampuchea (now Cambodia). None of us understood a word of it, much less cared. Kampu-what?

Kids at this age live in a world of narrow margins. They extend little further than friends, play-time, and the four walls of home. They don't want to hear about foreign policy and the travails of the world. In fact, weighing them down with this stuff will do more harm than good!

[Kryztian]

Methinks sinister forces are lurking here ...

Soros funding US pro-Palestinian protests – media
A network of nonprofits has reportedly paid student groups organizing tent cities in colleges, according to the New York Post
https://www.rt.com/news/596640-stude...lestine-soros/

Several student groups that have organized protest “camps” at major US universities have received money from activist billionaire George Soros, the New York Post reported on Friday.

Protests that began earlier this month at Columbia University in New York City have since spread to 40 universities and colleges in the US and Canada, including Harvard, Yale and UC Berkeley. The Columbia protest was organized by Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) and Within Our Lifetime.

All three have received funding from Soros’s Open Society Foundations through a network of nonprofits, the Post claimed, citing its own research. Other major donors to the student groups were identified as the Rockefeller Brothers Fund and former Wall Street banker Felice Gelman.

None of the groups responded to the Post’s requests for comment.

The outlet also named three “fellows” of the Soros-funded US Campaign for Palestinian Rights (USCPR), paid several thousand dollars to organize campaigns on campus. Two of them are former interns for congressional Democrats.

Activists have demanded that universities “divest” from companies such as Amazon, Google and Microsoft, as well as Lockheed Martin, that have contracts with the Israeli government. They also want the US government to stop giving any more money to Israel, citing its “genocide” of the Palestinians in Gaza.

Leader of the pro-Israel group Anti-Defamation League, Jonathan Greenblatt, blamed the protests on “campus proxies” of Iran in an interview with MSNBC this week.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has claimed that “anti-Semitic mobs have taken over leading universities” in the US and were calling for “the annihilation of Israel.” He compared the protesters to German Nazis in the 1930s and said their actions had to be “condemned and condemned unequivocally.”

Israel sent troops into Gaza after a series of deadly raids by Hamas on October 7 last year, killing an estimated 1,200 Israelis. Netanyahu has vowed to completely destroy the Gaza-based Palestinian group. So far, over 34,000 Palestinians have been killed in the Israeli military operation and another 80,000 wounded. Much of Gaza’s infrastructure has been destroyed as well.

[Bruce G Charlton]

My understanding is that this conflict has been deliberately created and sustained as part of the agenda of destruction (what I call the spitefully destructive or "Sorathic" type of evil) which is progressively taking-over from the "Ahrimanic" attempt to build a totalitarian system of thought control.

The globalist totalitarian project reached its peak in early 2020, but the advent of BLM in that summer already demonstrated that fomenting disorder and chaos was beginning to displace surveillance and control.

The significance of this is that it is to-be-expected that the higher level powers will fund and propagandize for both sides in conflicts; will escalate, and try to prevent resolution. Causing, increasing, continuing, and spreading wars is more important to Them, than who wins a war.

Indeed the best wars from Their POV are those where both sides are annihilated as completely as possible.

[norman]

And there you have it.


In case you were wondering what all these campus protests are really all about, this should answer any remaining questions.

During an anti-Israel campus protest at George Washington University this weekend, a speaker said ‘We must have a revolution so we can have a socialist reconstruction of the United States of America.’

That’s the quiet part out loud right there. Do you think this is what the founders of George Washington University had in mind for their school?

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...15839299051910