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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    I should probably stay out of this thread as I am filled with horror at all Abrahamic religions, & indeed any human-centric creed which disregards the rights & feelings of fellow sentients. . . but I'd like to share a few thoughts, if I may.

    I work for a small, Jewish-family owned business, & 3 of my colleagues are Muslims.

    We all get along very well. But when the sacrificial Eid comes around (there are apparently 2 Eids) I can not look them in the face; one of them is always close to tears, because she has had 2 or 3 lambs running around her house for a week or more, being petted & adored by the children, only to have their throats cut at the appointed hour. She shared with me how "brave" her little son was, helping to hold the lambs down while they were being murdered. To me, this is not bravery, but the intentional development of callouness, not to mention serious cognitive dissonance.

    At work, these 2 ladies dress in fashionable western attire, high heels, make-up, hair uncovered & loose; yet back at home, they put on the black cloaks & cover their hair.. . .it seems such hypocrisy, to cover oneself in the presence of FAMILY, but flaunt one's assets in public.

    I have tried, obliquely,to find out their reasoning behind this but they will not be drawn, except to insist that they find it "liberating" to be covered in public from the stares of men; though I have never seen either of them in their Muslim attire. I can actually understand the feeling, if not the logic, behind being veiled in public - the country I have chosen to live in has a violent history, & every day there is another case of rape, often of small children. Men make remarks (which I do not understand, but get a nasty feel from) at my daughter as we pass; this is not the Spanish or Italian version of piropo, which while annoying, is generally meant as a compliment by the perpetrator. Here, there is a veiled threat, a hint that they can & will take whatever they want.

    The 3rd Muslim at work is a man, a sort of sub-contractor, who is lively, amusing & irreverent, & dresses like any younger male in western society. Yet his wife & daughters have to be veiled when they are with him; his personality also changes in their presence.

    Finally, if I may add another anecdote from my own experiences - years ago I used to attend a Hindu temple quite regularly, dressed in a sari so as to blend in with the others present; after I moved to this country, the only Hindu temple near me was ISKON - the Hare Krishna (Vaishnava) temple, where I would often go simply to be in the presence of others who did not consume flesh (although they did eat cheese & milk, which was, to me, evidence of misinterpretation & cognitive dissonance) although the food they served was delicious

    But the whole "performance" that motivated most of these well-meaning people, who I liked individually, was all based on "Theatre" & ritual. I am convinced that ritual carves out a furrow in the brain beyond which no sane thought can pass - as in the majority of Muslims, as well as adherents of any ritual-based religion. It sets in motion the mechanical ego, & switches off the sensitive, intuitive self. (I can see a possible value in ritual for those who may be mentally or emotionally unstable for whatever reason, to stabilze the reactive self.)

    But mostly, it seems to be a convenient habit, & effectively sets followers up on "railroads", which they mechanically run up & down. Perhaps all bias, prejudice & conformism is the result of this way of thinking? Here, I suspect the Fourth Way schools are able to broaden the mind at least to the level of being free to Experience directly, rather than blindly accept the experiences of others as some sort of cosmic law.

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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by ozmirage (here)
    The problem was always predators, not religion.
    ...
    [1] Religion allows (and to some extent creates) good and normal people to become predators and even feel "justified" and "righteous"while being such. In fact that is often encouraged within religion all the way to extreme extremism -- in any religion

    [2] (BTW Budism is philosophy, not religion)

    [3] I highly doubt that without the teachings of the "christian church" in some of these locations in Africa, people would just go around burning other people alive for fun. The religion gives them the fear and judgment of things that the religion does not agree with, in order to propagate the "belief". Good humans are tragically caught up in religions and their views are changed that cause these atrocities against people. Exact same as we see in pockets of Islam. The machine is the same, it just wears a different face.

    [4] It matters not whether you are Christian or Muslim, both these religions are equally harmful. Islam is somewhat more obviously harmful (probably to us because our media is vastly biased), and Christianity does the same harm much more subtly - possibly even more dangerous.
    [1] Religions that teach the law of love are not the means for training predators. Such a belief suggests that one need research more.

    [2] Buddhism - 1. The teaching of Siddhartha Gautama that life is permeated with suffering caused by desire, that suffering ceases when desire ceases, and that enlightenment obtained through right conduct, wisdom, and meditation releases one from desire, suffering, and rebirth.
    2. The religion represented by the many groups, especially numerous in Asia, that profess varying forms of this doctrine and that venerate Siddhartha Gautama.

    RELIGION -
    a. The belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers, regarded as creating and governing the universe: respect for religion.
    b. A particular variety of such belief, especially when organized into a system of doctrine and practice: the world's many religions.
    c. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

    [3] Christianity boils down to "love God; love thy neighbor."
    Islam boils down to "Our way or die."
    Vast difference between the two.

    What some so-called "Christian churches" practice may have very little to do with Christianity or the teaching of Christ.

    [4] I disagree with that conclusion.
    Islam's history of murder and mayhem far exceeds anything attributed to Christianity.
    Christianity has a history of charitable missions building schools, hospitals, nursing homes, hospices and clinics.

    I do not think they're "equally harmful."

    POLITICAL ISLAM
    Tears of Jihad (1400 years and counting)
    Kafir Deaths (cumulative)
    • Christians : 60 million
    • Buddhists : 10 million
    • Hindus : 80 million
    • Africans : 120 million
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    Total : 270 million
    Source : www.politicalislam.com
    (Not to mention the millions captured, enslaved and abused.)

    . . .
    What about those stalwart atheists - - - ?
    COMMUNISM DEATH TALLY
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_ki...munist_regimes
    • USSR: 20 million deaths;
    • China: 65 million deaths;
    • Vietnam: 1 million deaths;
    • North Korea: 2 million deaths;
    • Cambodia: 2 million deaths;
    • Eastern Europe: 1 million deaths;
    • Latin America: 150,000 deaths;
    • Africa: 1.7 million deaths;
    • Afghanistan: 1.5 million deaths;
    • the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power: about 10,000 deaths.
    . . .
    Approximately 94.36 million deaths in a span of a century.
    Impressive! May even exceed Islam’s cumulative total of 270 million - someday.
    . . .

    = = =
    An infamous example of the evils of Christianity.
    SPANISH INQUISITION
    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/...sh_Inquisition
    Between 3000 to 5000 people died during the Inquisition's 350 years, but debate continues about the extent of and nature of atrocities committed and about the number of victims.

    14 victims per year is unacceptable, but not in the same league as Islam.

    (One may speculate that the centuries of incessant Muslim attacks may have contributed to the virulence of their over reaction.)
    = = =
    There's also the revisionist view that Christianity was instrumental in genocide in America.

    NO GENOCIDE ON THE PLAINS
    http://custer.over-blog.com/article-11602057.html
    “In the end, the sad fate of America's Indians represents not a crime but a tragedy, involving an irreconcilable collision of cultures and values. Despite the efforts of well-meaning people in both camps, there existed no good solution to this clash. The Indians were not prepared to give up the nomadic life of the hunter for the sedentary life of the farmer. The new Americans, convinced of their cultural and racial superiority, were unwilling to grant the original inhabitants of the continent the VAST PRESERVE of land required by the Indians’ way of life. The consequence was a conflict in which there were few heroes, but which was far from a simple tale of hapless victims and merciless aggressors. To fling the charge of genocide at an entire society serves neither the interests of the Indians nor those of history.”
    Was there an effort to change a stone age hunter / gatherer culture ?
    Yes.
    But for a sound reason - survival. Future Billions depend on the most efficient use of the land for food. Hunter - gatherers are highly efficient - but require VAST amounts of land.
    According to the Department of the Interior, a hunter / gatherer, such as a tribal Indian, needed 10 sq. mi. per person to sustain themselves. (This was for sizing reservations) (Think of a circle with a radius of 1.78 miles - for each person)

    Based on America's 3,794,101 sq. mi., that’s only enough for a population of 379,410 indigenous people living a primitive nomadic lifestyle.
    Today's 320 million people would not be alive, without displacing the indigenous people. And based on the current doubling rate of 50 years, America's population should hit 1.28 billion in 2100.
    . . .
    http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...not-vice-versa
    Why did so many Native Americans die of European diseases but not vice versa?
    The natives had no resistance to smallpox, influenza, or plague or even to mild (to us) diseases like measles. Entire populations were virtually wiped out, with some Atlantic coast tribes losing 90 percent of their adult members.
    FWIW - based on the vast amount of land needed for non-agrarian stone tool cultures, population estimates (pre-Columbian) of more than 5 million for both continents is highly suspect.
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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    Ok You win, Christianity is less murderous than Islam. It's also a lot smaller. You missed provided an data on the Crusades, the Aztec Democide, and all the "missionary" work where people seek to change the spiritual values of their own culture and replace it with their own - just like Islam! Except maybe with less "extremism!" In fact how many millions have had their culture, their way of life, their spiritual values ripped from them in the name of jesus? Harm is not just in killing, but there' been at least 50 million killed in the name of Christ in the last 1000 years or so. Funny how I can find some good Christians stating only a few thousand died in the Crusades ... again, when you have one belief gathering stats against another (athiesm is a belief as well) they are sure to be 100% accurate! <--sarcasm

    Let's look at deeply at the residential schools in Canada - All run by various church denominations (Catholic / Evangelical / Methodist / etc) for over 100 years. Most of these children weren't killed, but what was done to them is considered a genocide and a well kept secret. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/a-hist...anada-1.702280

    Makes me wonder if Christians have been doing this around the world - again, the goal wasn't to kill these kids, the goal was to "force" their natural culture, way of life, and spiritual values out of them. This was done by forcefully removing them from their parents and families (never to be seen again), and placed into concentration camps to be "re-educated" - the called these camps "residential schools" The children endured, emotional, mental, verbal, physical and sexual abuse in the name of Christ - from the early 1900s up to the 1980s!

    Let's move to Catholic Church and their pedophile program. "Protect the pedophile at all cost!" seems to be the motto, and of course this doesn't just happen in Catholic churches; again no on is killed but the harm? Irreversible.


    So sure you can create a "my religion killed less than yours list" -- but all my points are I have made in previous posts still stand. Christianity has been very harmful to many, just as Christians say of Islam.

    So I get a kick out people who condemn Islam in the name of Jesus, just as much as I get a kick out of Muslims condemning other religions in the name of Muhammad. Again - same **** just a different shaped pile.

    BTW hundreds of thousand of women were burned alive as "witches" by the church during the middle ages - a practice which has endured to this day. The criteria back then was a) be a woman, 2) own a cat, 3) enjoy nature, 4) not be married 5) could read-- if you met those criteria, you were burned alive.

    But enough of us merely detailing how nasty religion is ... my point is made.
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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    The first ever suicide bombing in Baghdad happened in 2003 AFTER we invaded. Just saying, maybe its more than just islam that caused this phenomenon
    "As long as you still view the stars as something above you, you still lack a viewpoint of knowledge" -Fredrich Nietzche

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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    The US illegally invades 10 Muslim countries in 15 years, the first of which was called a "Crusade" by the US president, and muslims think that they are being targeted ... oh wait, they were ...

    Reality check, al Qaeda and ISIS have killed probably a ratio of Muslims to Christians probably 1000:1 - this is true. And we are programmed by the media to think in a muslims vs non-muslim mentality only.

    Al Qaeda sure gave muslims a bad name didn't they -- those "muslim" extremists - oh wait the US created that too ...

    Bottom line -- one reason religion exists is to give powerful people tools to justify to the masses their visions of conquest - however that might be played out. If you are a Muslim afraid of Christians or a Non-Muslim afraid of Muslims on this day in age, you've been suckered into supporting someone else's conquest ... Someone that knows you are easier to get to do their bidding when you are afraid, they know your mind becomes a moldable mush pile with fear and hate. And this is the reason for the current string of islamophobia - however it may seem when the only info we have is "media" reports.
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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    Quote Only those who do not know what Islam means, trust Muslims. Their prophet, a pedophile, rapist, murderer, slaver,
    warlord, is their "ideal." Their own scriptures teach them to lie to everyone else, and seek dominion over all peoples and lands.
    Sounds like many of the elites thru history to me , plague on all their houses...

    The history of the middle east and surrounding areas is long and bloody
    intermingled with periods of peace and enlightenment. Today is a reflection
    of that history that has been effected by greater outside players possibly
    from our ancient Annunaki creators ? to the mil ind corporate empires of today.
    Which may also have involve off world influence , who knows ? Or its an
    endless generational power clash of humans.....

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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    I used to call myself an optimist, one who could always see a way out of anything, out of fear or depression. I spent decades teaching students how to be empowered and to see the whole of life and beyond. And here I sit, terrified that we have lost our platform and the ground seems cracked and soft. I do not watch national news at all unless a catastrophe has hit our shores. I discern my internet news but if it resonates with some piece of me that knows, I will inform myself.

    If you asked me 5 or 10 yrs ago if I had dreams that could manifest, I would say oh yes. Today I only feel that not many of us will see the winter of our lives. And if we do, it will be under undue duress. I can wholly identify with Europe right now under Islamic invasion. Not that it happened to me, but I lived in Europe when life was good, safe, walking the streets alone, having strangers sit at your table. What I identify with is that Europeans have lost that safety net. And I grieve for them because it cannot get better. The radicalism is like a cancer now. And cancer cells mutate with branches of various cells which is why modern medicine cannot control or erase it.

    I do fear unguarded borders. I do fear that the TPTB have upped their agendas. I fear the chemtrails have become far worse in what is being sprayed-- we see this time and again with our patients symptoms. I fear that vaccinations will destroy the rest of us, children or adults with compromised immune systems. I fear the grip of holding onto the reigns of our warrior horses riding bravely through the wreckage is loosening.

    So I am no longer an optimist but a realist. I will not dig a trench and lay down, but I will see what is happening in front of or behind the scenes of what is manifested. Oddly, this vision prepares me for NOT hanging on but fearlessly launching myself to a place that holds the Divine in check. When that presents, I have no need to see the planet's destruction to its end.
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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    europe is still pretty safe dude, i strolled around munich earlier this year and it was nothing. places in america are way worse. buy some weed in camden and tell me europe is dangerous ha

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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    And the horror continues, and where is the outrage? And WHY do these monsters have such clean, prisitine "uniforms", even the white plimsolls seem immaculate, as if it were a staged "world theatre" show?

    https://www.rt.com/news/345467-isis-...kurdish-women/

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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    All I know is that at age ten I began to have doubts about the scriptures, at twelve I began arguing the dubious parts of the bible, and at fourteen I rejected my religion. For the next twenty-eight years I searched for another one, the right and true one. I did not find it, but what I did find was spirituality. Until forty I really had no understanding of the difference between religion and spirituality. Once I made this connection and distinction the process sped up. No longer interested in finding a home I realized home was where my heart was - I was always home, I can't be anywhere else but home. Religion sets up criteria for getting there, spirituality holds the door open invitingly.

    Any set of fervent "believers" are dangerous, if they begin telling the rest of us how we must live or judge us for that lifestyle. "Believers" have "rights" and gain "grace" by good acts. "Non-believers" have no rights and are damned. They are the goyem of the jews, the pagan of the christians, the heathen of the muslim. One thing they share is the same "holy book". None uphold morality foremost but instead pay tribute to their little god, bring it gifts of idols, and feed it death and misery in its holy name. That is the scourge: the rejection of higher thought and the spouting of rhetoric. That is the enemy. That is what must be eradicated.

    The only way to overcome ignorance is to dispel it with truth. Nothing else will work. No amount of bloodshed will turn the tide. No amount of fear-mongering will lessen the terror. Young people with no futures are taking on a cause of violence. Why not? They are the expendable, the worthless, The Third World. They are the exploitable resource of the First World, the infamous G7. Their prospects are dire.

    A young muslim man came, rushed is a better description, up to me a month ago (I pass by a mosque every day - and two churches) to impart these words, "Islam will be the final religion."

    I replied, "Good, the world can't stand much more." Why did I say that? Because what I heard in his words was that after Islam's monumental failure the world will be ready to reject religion in any form ever again.

    That would make transitioning to a new and peaceful world far easier...
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    Default Re: Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    The US illegally invades 10 Muslim countries in 15 years, the first of which was called a "Crusade" by the US president, and muslims think that they are being targeted ... oh wait, they were ...

    Reality check, al Qaeda and ISIS have killed probably a ratio of Muslims to Christians probably 1000:1 - this is true. And we are programmed by the media to think in a muslims vs non-muslim mentality only.

    Al Qaeda sure gave muslims a bad name didn't they -- those "muslim" extremists - oh wait the US created that too ...

    Bottom line -- one reason religion exists is to give powerful people tools to justify to the masses their visions of conquest - however that might be played out. If you are a Muslim afraid of Christians or a Non-Muslim afraid of Muslims on this day in age, you've been suckered into supporting someone else's conquest ... Someone that knows you are easier to get to do their bidding when you are afraid, they know your mind becomes a moldable mush pile with fear and hate. And this is the reason for the current string of islamophobia - however it may seem when the only info we have is "media" reports.
    I just want to follow up with a bit of disclaimer: I do appreciate and feel I understand the messages of `Jesus`or whatever his name was. The interpretations have mostly been dictated which I often don`t agree with; and I do understand that `books` where chosen by the most "interesting" writer / writing, so I take kit all with a grain of sat. But what I see in a lot of the words of Jesus are resolutions to so many problems. However, the interpretation and expected resultant action from the church is often, in my opinion, completely unaligned with what I view as Jesus' true teachings.

    So It;s not that I'm throwing everything Christian or religious out the window --- religion can be great for community, friendship, support when you need it - My advice is get spiritual teachings elsewhere - Preferably from your own hearts direction, and know it is a relentless pursuit..
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    To make a clear distinction the real Islam and the extremism you need first to read the holy Quran for yourself and anything (smaller or greater) that contradicts this book, is outside of Islam.

    Check for yourself if you are interested, it is detailed in every language.

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    There's a bit of a justified ruckus on the 'X' thang today concerning British 'journalist' Julia Hartley-Brewer and her appalling treatment of Dr Mustafa Barghouti which verges on misandry, with more than a hint of Islamophobia thrown in for dessert. He comported himself extremely well under the circumstances, and no prizes for guessing who maintained their dignity here.

    Another once-sane (through Covid) voice that is losing their s**t over blinking accursed Israel

    Source: https://twitter.com/Dima_Khatib/stat...20884238274625

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    "Death to Arabs! Death to Arabs!" chant these Israelis in Jerusalem.

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    France24 correspondent Laila Odeh was heckled and verbally assaulted by Israelis in Jerusalem for speaking Arabic.

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    He was shot at around 6am after the morning prayer.

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    💬—'World facing worst waves of Islamophobia since Donald Trump’s call for Muslim entry ban'

    🎙️ Insights from Experts: Israel’s Gaza war pushing Islamophobia ‘out of control’ worldwide

    More here 🔗 http://v.aa.com.tr/3103331

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    Israel’s Gaza war pushing Islamophobia ‘out of control’ worldwide: Experts

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    Six-year-old Palestinian-American Wadea al-Fayoume was stabbed 26 times at his home in Illinois, US by his landlord, who was screaming anti-Muslim slurs as he brutally attacked the boy.

    Just moments before, the assailant, 71-year-old Joseph M. Czuba, told the boy’s mother, Hanaan Shahin, who was also stabbed and critically injured, that he was angry at her for what was going on in Israel, according to court documents.

    Investigators concluded that Czuba targeted the boy and his mother because they were Muslim and as a response to Israel’s ongoing war on the Gaza Strip.

    Currently, the primary driving factor for Islamophobia is “the genocide that’s going on in Gaza,” Corey Saylor, research and advocacy director at the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), told Anadolu.

    Here in the US, there is a wave of hate against people who are supporting “Palestinians’ right to live, support their right to not have an occupation and not live under apartheid,” he said.

    However, a fact that cannot be ignored is that Islamophobia is “baked into Western society, generally,” he said.

    “Islamophobia is actually, unfortunately, quite strong worldwide at this point,” said Saylor, terming it “out of control.”

    He said the world is facing the worst waves of Islamophobia since December 2015, when Donald Trump, then a frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, called for a total and complete ban on Muslims entering the US.

    CAIR received 2,171 Islamophobia-related requests or complaints of bias in the first 57 days after Israel started its war on Gaza, according to Saylor, who said the figure represents almost 50% of the total cases the organization had in 2022.

    In the US, cars have been used as weapons against protesters in multiple locations, and there have been people firing guns into the air or pointing them at people who are “supporting Palestinian humanity,” said Saylor.

    On top of these “bias incidents,” students have been targeted in very personal ways, he said, citing the case of digital trucks driving around Harvard University with images and names of students who have supported Palestine.

    There are cases of Islamophobia at workplaces too, as those who attend protests against Israel are regularly reported to human resources by anonymous people, he said.

    “So, it’s been a very difficult last couple of months for Muslims in the United States,” added Saylor.

    - Islamophobia has ‘gone global’

    “For quite a few years, and in an unnoticed kind of way, it used to be that we thought about Islamophobia as growing out of the Iranian Revolution, then the impact of 9/11, which usually then was equated with Islamophobia existing in the US and Europe,” according to John Esposito, a professor of religion, international affairs and Islamic studies at Georgetown University.

    “But the fact is that, today, it’s gone global.”

    The root of Islamophobia goes back to the establishment of the state of Israel, and the 1948 mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians, according to Esposito.

    A real play here is that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Cabinet has religious far-right figures, people who really believe that “Israel is their land and that Palestinians don’t belong there at all,” he said.

    He said the devastation of Gaza and its people raises questions in terms of not only what the Israelis are doing, but also about the response of the international community, in particular the US.

    Anyone who looks at the definition of apartheid can see that Israel is an “apartheid state,” he said.

    In fact, if you compare it to South Africa, “it’s of an even larger magnitude,” said Esposito, who is also founding director of the Alwaleed Centre for Muslim Christian Understanding and director of The Bridge Initiative at Georgetown’s Walsh School of Foreign Service.

    The boycott of Palestine by the international community, specifically the US, led to the creation of the Israeli “apartheid state and surge in hatred against Muslims,” he added.

    The US has always tended to privilege Israel over the Palestinians, which has contributed to the rise in Islamophobia, according to Esposito.

    The international community must become far more robust in its response to the brutal Israeli brutal military campaign, he asserted.

    - Media fueling Islamophobia

    Saylor pointed to the media’s role in spreading disinformation about the events of Oct. 7, citing examples such as the reports of babies being beheaded, which turned out to be false.

    For several years, many media outlets have allowed anti-Muslim stereotypes to foster on their platform, he said.

    When you look at coverage of Muslims, “it’s generally very negative” and very focused on giving voice to people who say horrible things about Islam and Muslims,” he said.

    “It’s unfortunate because it leads to real-world attacks on real-world human beings, who are now suffering because of what’s going on in the Middle East,” said Saylor.

    While Israel has used anti-Arab and Islamophobic stereotypes to push its narrative for decades, the US government is also pushing such narratives, he said.

    This was evident when President Joe Biden himself used an “anti-Arab stereotype,” when he said that Palestinian numbers regarding the death toll in Gaza cannot be trusted, even though his own government had been using those figures, said Saylor.

    On another occasion, Brian Mast, a member of the House of Representatives from Florida, said there are no Palestinian civilians, which essentially translates into unconditional support for what many scholars are calling genocide, said Saylor.

    “Some people interpret that as permission to go out and target Arabs, Muslims, and other people who are supporting Palestinian humanity,” he added.

    In other words, if the primary driver of this wave of Islamophobia in the US and elsewhere is the violence in the Middle East, then world governments are also giving “a wink and a nod to the Israeli government to continue with what scholars are calling genocide in Gaza,” he said.

    It also contributes to Arabs, Muslims, and other people who are speaking up on behalf of Palestinian humanity to be treated as suspects, said Saylor.

    This wave of Islamophobia in the US and the tension it has created will be a factor as we head toward “what is expected to be a really messy presidential election,” he said.

    “Given that the current punching bags tend to be Arabs and Muslims, unfortunately, we can also expect that we'll see more of that (in the run-up to the elections),” he said.

    Saylor, however, also pointed out that the coalition that is opposing Israel’s Gaza war includes people of the Jewish faith, Muslims, Christians, Arabs, Asian Americans and the Black community.

    “So, anybody who saying this is about an ethnic group against another ethnic group or religion against a religion is essentially misleading people,” he said.
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    Speaking to Anadolu, Corey Saylor of Council on American-Islamic Relations says:

    💬—'World facing worst waves of Islamophobia since Donald Trump’s call for Muslim entry ban'

    🎙️ Insights from Experts: Israel’s Gaza war pushing Islamophobia ‘out of control’ worldwide

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    “So, anybody who saying this is about an ethnic group against another ethnic group or religion against a religion is essentially misleading people,” he said.
    I'll go out on a limb and say...

    "All part of the Plan".

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