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    Default Re: If the power grid goes down... then what?

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    Here is a video of Tucker Carlson interviewing Dennis Quaid, the discussion is about the power grid and politics.




    Dennis Quaid is also releasing a documentary "Grid Down - Power Up"

    https://griddownpowerup.com Official website for the documentary
    https://www.youtube.com/@griddownpowerup Official Youtube channel
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    Default Re: If the power grid goes down... then what?

    Thanks palehorse. So an actor explains the possible triggers for this incoming grid down event . I guess Tucker has to pay his dues just like everybody else..

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    Thanks palehorse. So an actor explains the possible triggers for this incoming grid down event . I guess Tucker has to pay his dues just like everybody else..
    Yah!! I refrained from commenting on this one, the intention was only to share so people can see more and more on this subject is coming up recently everywhere mainstream and alternative.

    The main topics that had a surge in the last few months are:

    - cyber attack (financial, health, energy, etc..)
    - EMP attack by "bad actors" lol
    - solar flare (storm)

    which could possibly bring down the grid elsewhere not only in the US.
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    The solar event which is expected in the mid 2030's will result in much more than a 'Carrington event' - if Ben from Suspicious Observers is correct, this will be the end of our current epoch and the beginning of the next major cycle of our world, he speaks of the planet up-ending, the accretion of a dust covering on the sun and this being blown off = a time of darkness followed by catastrophic micro-nova. Massive tsunamis and earthquakes, volcanic upheavals....geeze, a real end of the world type scenario, but always some survive to re-kindle humanity. I don't know if this is 100% correct, but Ben is a clever chap and we do have evidence of this occurring in 12,000 year cycles, flood myths e.t.c - I have been aware that in my lifetime something massive is going to take place, perhaps this is it. Probably it is time for another go at the prize, somehow we seem to have reached a final point that is too awful to be sustained. I don't know, do you? Something is coming down the pike, that's for certain.

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    Default Re: If the power grid goes down... then what?

    Quote Posted by palehorse (here)
    Here is a video of Tucker Carlson interviewing Dennis Quaid, the discussion is about the power grid and politics.


    Dennis Quaid is also releasing a documentary "Grid Down - Power Up"
    https://griddownpowerup.com Official website for the documentary
    https://www.youtube.com/@griddownpowerup Official Youtube channel
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    Thanks palehorse. So an actor explains the possible triggers for this incoming grid down event . I guess Tucker has to pay his dues just like everybody else..
    ~~~

    Here's the 7 minute trailer for Grid Down, Power Up. Quaid is merely the host and narrator.


    Personally, I'd thank him for doing his part to draw attention to what could definitely be a very major problem. (I have to say, I was surprised how much Tucker didn't seem to know about all this.)

    The real issue may not be cyber or EMP attacks (the documentary warns about Russia, China and Iran, an incessant mainstream talking point), but as Mike Gorman posts above, a massive near-future solar event that's been discussed and predicted by many.

    Here's Zero Hedge's new article on this: "90% of the Population will be Dead Within a Year" - Dennis Quaid Warns Tucker of Inevitable Major Solar Storm Destroying All Tech

    "Basically, there is a 100% probability that our sun, generating what they call a GMD, which is a solar storm, that hits hard, hits our Earth, and the magnetic field we have around the Earth, and can fry everything that is electric above the ground, including our entire grid," actor Dannis Quaid explained to Tucker Carlson in one of the former Fox anchor's most surreal yet terrifying interviews yet.

    Scared yet? You should be.

    Accomplished actor and musician Quaid shares insights on his upcoming documentary titled "Grid Down, Power Up", highlighting the inevitability of a massive solar storm (a Carrington event such as occurred in 1859) impacting Earth in catastrophic ways.

    At the time, Quaid notes, the GMD (geomagnetic disturbance) devastated the then-existing telegraph system, and asks Carlson to consider the potential magnitude of such a disaster in today's electrically-dependent society. He notes:
    "imagine what that would do now with a very large storm... it would take out not only the electricity but all of our infrastructure," the actor exclaims, adding that:
    “There wouldn’t be water in your tap. You couldn’t get gas for your car because the whole system is broken down."
    Quaid hopes that by bringing attention to the potential catastrophe he can nudge politicians into action to harden the grid against such events (natural or terrorist-driven)...
    "It's something we don't like to think about but it's... whether from the Sun or a bad actor this is something that 100% chance it's going to happen and we are just no nowhere no way prepared for it." ;
    ...although he is not optimistic given the challenges posed by regulatory agencies and the private ownership of power companies.
    "President Trump actually signed an executive order to harden our grid to protect ourselves against an event like this happening. Obama tried to get that going as well and it's stuck in these Regulatory Agencies."
    And if we don't do something about it, basically all the worst bits from the bible...
    “Everything that we rely upon would be gone. The food would melt in our refrigerators..." Quaid states, warning that "within a year, 90% of the world’s population would be dead from starvation, disease, or killing themselves in total and utter social catastrophe."
    He concludes the interview with thoughts on American democracy and the need for balanced political discourse, advocating for education about the values that make us a nation and urging for cooler heads to prevail in politics.
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    I was thinking, where to add this interesting interview with Whitney Webb I just finished to watch... it's from three weeks ago...

    So many topics she talks... among them, also topic about subject in this tread.
    Whitney really makes me think.. about what to do.. so many questions... I agree with her... look at what they are doing... not what they say.... It seems like, you can trust nothing and nobody!!!


    The End of the World as We Know It with Whitney Webb


    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:08:10 Prep for crises; corruption
    00:13:57 AI dystopia
    00:28:17 Musk’s mask; decentralise power
    00:41:41 Argentina, Milei, & the IMF
    00:47:25 Bitcoin vs technocrats
    01:03:52 Can Bitcoin win?
    01:11:33 Prep against apathy

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    Anomalies...

    There are 2 points that have been Perforated my brain all the time from this video even before ended ...

    1) At some point the man ask her Who are "they"...about the dark manipulators...and for me he have something else in mind as
    the woman respond...like he bit his tong and force himself not to go forded with that thoughts train ...(about dark entities/Aliens )

    At that moment I"remember" some "woo" information about Earth been the only or one of the rare planet with free will...
    Meaning that the rest are something like insects colony...
    All the efforts seems to drive us in that direction...and then coupling with that came next fact...

    2) "they" want again a feudal time like it was 1000 years "Dark Age" only 1 king ,his army and then the peasants/workers, like an ant colony.

    But in middle that darkness light show up : the first printer machine! having an impact like today Internet...

    To that point only the church minions ( and some "nobles")could read Latin ,that was the language used in Bibles, therefor given
    whatever interpretation "the elite" suit better... Remember. most people couldn't reed...

    With that new technology the peasants could take another picture(not only from that book) and then good sh1t happens!

    Well, we are now in the same fork, and the "Elite" has learn that bitter lesson and are preparing all dirty tricks their dark minds are
    capable of...

    Well, nothing new here, another battle for planet Earth...again

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    Whitney Webb about Milei 00:41:41 Argentina, Milei, & the IMF
    This is off topic but I want to subscribe what this lady says about Milei, his finance minister Caputo and a new round of pillage that is certainly going to happen in Argentina. It is amazing these days more than ever how with the right populist message large parts of a population can be fooled and betrayed.

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    Quote Posted by Philippe (here)
    Whitney Webb about Milei 00:41:41 Argentina, Milei, & the IMF
    This is off topic but I want to subscribe what this lady says about Milei, his finance minister Caputo and a new round of pillage that is certainly going to happen in Argentina. It is amazing these days more than ever how with the right populist message large parts of a population can be fooled and betrayed.
    Absolutely right, Ms. Webb is an outstanding person, highly educated you can perceive it the way she express herself.
    This new president in Argentina will hammer down the country into the dark ages, he wants do dollarize Argentine and he said that right after he won the elections, what a patriot huh? lol
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    Grid Down Power Up (2024) Complete Documentary Narrated by Dennis Quaid - Official YouTube Release

    It is available since 6 days ago.
    Warning: This YT version has Ads embedded in the movie (not YT Ads.)

    (the movie is 1h 05m long)
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    • WARNING Prepare for GRID DOWN ... It's going to happen ... UPDATE!

    • Solar storms, such as GMDs, have a 100% probability of occurring and pose a serious threat to the electrical grid and society's infrastructure.
    • Past events like the Carrington event of 1859 demonstrate the potential devastation of solar storms, which could lead to widespread power outages and societal collapse.
    • There's a significant risk of power grid hacks by foreign adversaries like Iranian hackers, as highlighted in a recent White House report.
    • The availability of backup power systems like the Delta 2 can mitigate the impact of power outages caused by natural disasters or cyberattacks.
    • Preparation for potential power grid failures is crucial, especially considering vulnerabilities in the current geopolitical landscape and the potential for prolonged disruptions.
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: If the power grid goes down... then what?

    Bumping this thread with a new feature from Redacted about what would happen to the US — or anywhere — in the event of an EMP attack. It's a very well-presented 25 minute video, interrupted in the middle for just two or three minutes with commercials, easily skipped.

    The Day America Goes Dark


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    This was in today's Zerohedge, and while the info originates from Lancaster University, it is USA-centric because it is being released by NASA; they say it could happen anywhere on the planet

    NASA Warns Scientists Understating Worst-Case Solar-Storm Scenario

    As if the growing risk of a global economic disaster springing from the US-Israeli war on Iran weren't enough to worry about, researchers at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center are warning that miscalculations and false assumptions may have resulted in an enormous underestimation of the worst-case effects of a solar storm.

    Solar storms are events in which the sun experiences a massive explosion of energy, charged particles and magnetic fields. From solar flares to coronal mass ejections (CMEs), these explosions pose a danger to all kinds of electronics, from your cell phone, computer and car to gas pumps, airplanes, power stations and everything in between.

    The worst such event in recorded history was the Carrington Event of 1859. Estimated to have been as powerful as 10 billion atomic bombs, it caused telegraphs to fail across Europe. A far more modest event in 2003 disrupted the FAA's navigation computers for more than 24 hours, and the FAA was prompted to warn that high-altitude flights might receive dangerous doses of radiation.

    Critically, the prevailing theory about "solar weather" posits that there's a limit to just how much energy can be injected into Earth's polar ionosphere. Alarmingly, NASA scientists are now saying there may be no such limit to the destructive energy that could rain down on the world. They derive that suspicion from more than a million data points where solar wind was gauged by NASA craft in Earth orbit. These measurements show a direct correlation between the potency of the solar wind and upper-atmosphere currents -- rather than a declining correlation as more powerful forces confronted the theorized upper limit. “There is currently no statistical evidence to suggest an upper limit to the energy transferred from the solar wind to the polar ionosphere,” the NASA researchers concluded.

    Here's what a co-author of the new study, Lancaster University's Dr. Maria Walach, had to say:

    “Our planet’s magnetic field does a really great job of protecting us against many space weather effects. There are however extreme cases, where satellites unexpectedly fall back to Earth, or we lose communication and GPS signals...

    If there is no upper limit to our planet’s response to the solar wind, modeling for extreme cases needs to take this into account and we should be vigilant of space weather effects. Fortunately, these very extreme cases are rare, but this also means we have limited data to work with and only time will tell what happens at the very extreme one-in-a-thousand-year kind of event.”

    Putting aside the worst-case scenario, a major disaster would surely result from another event on the scale of the Carrington Event. A 2014 study by Lloyds of London in concert with Lexington, Mass-based Atmospheric and Environmental Research called it "almost inevitable," and concluded 20 to 40 million people could endure blackouts lasting anywhere from 16 days up to two years.

    Organizations like the Foundation for Resilient Societies have long been urging the implementation of measures to harden America's power infrastructure against solar events, warning that unshielded transformers and transmission systems -- which in turn fail to shield supply chains, medical services and societal order -- threaten the survival of a significant portion of the population.

    zerohedge.com

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    Default Re: If the power grid goes down... then what?

    There is plenty of evidence predicting a much worse, global disaster according to Ben Davidson of Spaceweather News.
    (See the ongoing thread Geomagnetic Reversals and Ice Ages for daily updates and more.)
    He maintains (along with other experts) that the current ongoing 12,000 year solar cycle/geomagnetic pole reversal periodically causes the Earth's protective magnetic field to diminish exponentially until it reaches a critical point, at which a micronova will occur, the next one coming within approximately 20 years.
    Meanwhile, as the electric grid becomes more and more vulnerable to energy from the Sun, an event on the scale of the Harrington Event of 1859 happening now (it could happen at any time, statistically) would actually have a global impact, not just local.
    For a succinct overview with the most current, credible scientific data see:

    It has to be noted:
    how scarce transformers are
    how long it takes to create one
    how expensive they are
    and how they would be destroyed by event today like the Harrington Event
    ... in order to understand how the entire global electric grid could be destroyed in a single day, and how impossible it would be to restore it.
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