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    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    The truth need to be exposed...and this next generation has a higher moral compass than the last generation.... Period!

    New Film Examines American Jews’ Growing Rejection of Israel’s Occupation
    Funny how "Democracy Now" uses the term "Far Right" 0:52 as easily as almost all liberal leaning media platforms systematically do >>> to misrepresent & frame their critics ... "far right" = code word for: "extreme right"= code word for: "dangerous for our democracy" = code word for: "anything goes" = code word for: "we do not have to represent them in an honest & fair way" etc. etc. etc. Most know the drill by now, obvious predictable tunnel vision rhetoric.

    So many left leaning mass media pundits do not even know why there is a difference between Constitutional Republic vs "Ruled by the (mass hypnotized) Mob" Democracy. And why this is so important for the fate of humanity!

    Those who scream: "dangerous for our democracy" are often the ones that goes along destroying democracy to get certain made up crisis "fixed".

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    I don't want to divert attention from the potentially important development of Israel's apparent proposal for a 'pause in fighting' of up to two months, but I've just seen that Yves Smith has published a long, detailed and very intricate article on her excellent website:

    https://nakedcapitalism.com/2024/01/further-discussion-of-the-south-africa-genocide-case-against-israel-evaluating-what-the-court-might-do.html

    Further Discussion of the South Africa Genocide Case Against Israel: Evaluating What the Court Might Do

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    • Norm Finkelstein & Mouin Rabbani BREAK DOWN Israeli Genocide Case w/Briahna Joy Gray:

    In this special stream, Katie joins Briahna Joy Gray to co-host a discussion with political scientist Norman Finkelstein and Palestinian analyst Mouin Rabbani. Finkelstein and Rabbani analyze South Africa's genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice, predict the outcome, and explain why the case is so important, regardless of the decision.

    Norman Finkelstein is a political scientist, prolific author, and son of Holocaust survivors. He received his PhD from the Princeton University Politics Department in 1987. He is the author of many books that have been translated into 60 foreign editions, including THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY: Reflections on the exploitation of Jewish suffering, and GAZA: An inquest into its martyrdom, I'LL BURN THAT BRIDGE WHEN I GET TO IT! Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic Freedom. In the year 2020, Norman Finkelstein was named the fifth most influential political scientist in the world.

    Mouin Rabbani is a Contributing Editor of Middle East Report and has published and commented widely on Palestinian affairs and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He was a Senior Analyst of the Middle East with the International Crisis Group. Previously he worked as Palestine Director of the Palestinian American Research Centre. He is Co-Editor of Jadaliyya Ezine and host of the Connections podcast.

    Briahna Joy Gray is the host of the bad Faith podcast and a host on The Hill's Rising.
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1749537675642646597



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    Israel has proposed two-month pause in fighting in the Gaza Strip to Hamas via Qatar and Egypt in exchange for release of all remaining hostages, Axios reported on Monday, citing two Israeli officials.


    As of now, over 130 Israeli hostages are still in Hamas’ captivity.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1749529535396364398


    Clearly this is the story to watch VERY carefully over the next 24-48 hours. Immediate observations:
    • Reading the Axios article, the proposed 'pause in fighting' is not 'two months', but up to two months. That's quite some potential difference in meaning.
    • Note that the verboten word 'ceasefire' doesn't seem to have been used by Israel in its proposal.
    • As best I can see, Israel has made no mention of allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza during such a 'pause'. That would surely have to be a critical component of any agreement, and pretty much the whole reason for Hamas accepting it. (And not just a couple of dozen trucks. A few thousand of them would be needed, with absolutely nothing and nobody stopping them from reaching Northern Gaza.)
    • It has to be possible that this sudden proposal, which no-one was expecting, may be part of Israel's strategy to offset and dilute/disarm the potential impact of a negative ICJ genocide judgment, which (again, it has to be possible) Israel may have learned is about to be announced by the ICJ panel of judges.
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    • And a final note of caution. No-one anywhere seems to know a thing about this, apart from the two unnamed 'Israeli officials' who apparently told Axios about the proposal. The Times of Israel is in the dark about the whole thing and merely cites the Axios article — as does every other news outlet, mainstream and otherwise.

      This doesn't mean that such a proposal hasn't been discussed. But it does mean that no news platforms know exactly what the actual proposal, if it exists, really features. There may be all kinds of details here lost (or imagined, or assumed!) in this very long chain of whispers.
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    • Israel Filmed Themselves Doing This To Palestinians!
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    https://x.com/MiddleEastMnt/status/1749555093425230163



    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...ne-at-the-icj/

    Tunisia bans lawyer representing Palestine at the ICJ

    Tunisian authorities prevented lawyer and former head of the Anti-Corruption Authority, Chawki Tabib, from leaving the country as he was heading to The Hague to represent Palestine in the genocide case filed against the Israeli occupation.

    Local media reported that Tabib, who is representing Palestine against the occupying state before the ICJ in The Hague, was prevented, by a judicial decision, from leaving Tunis-Carthage Airport and heading to Kuwait to attend a coordination meeting related to the case against Israel.

    Last month, Chawki Tabib announced that he had filed a lawsuit with the Prosecutor at the ICJ in The Hague against the Israeli occupation, after being commissioned by the Palestinian Bar Association.

    The Tunisian lawyer said in a post on his Facebook account, “Today, 12/6/2023, I filed a complaint with the Public Prosecutor at the International Criminal Court in The Hague against war criminals, killers of Palestinian children, and leaders of the usurping Zionist entity.”

    Israel presents its case to the ICJ: Dr Gilad Noam

    On 11 January, as Israel was put on trial at The Hague on charges of committing genocide against the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip, Tabib posted a picture of a power of attorney document from the Palestinian Bar Association, saying, “This is the only day I wished to be outside Tunisia.”

    The Tunisian Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that Tunisia will not join any lawsuit against Israel at the ICJ, claiming that this “involves implicit recognition of this entity.”

    This comes at a time when Tunisia is witnessing a widespread arrest campaign, including of media figures, activists, judges, businessmen and politicians, in politically charged cases.
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://twitter.com/Alonso_GD/status/1749519049615143085
    Alonso Gurmendi wrote
    "For details as to why, see the main methodology thread. I will post a link below."
    I'd very much like to read that. (I'd also like to know what countries one or two of the 'Neutral' and 'Critical' flags belong to...!!)
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    Israeli tanks display Gush Katif flag in Khan Yunis operation in Gaza

    During military operations in Khan Yunis in the southern Gaza, Israeli tanks prominently displayed the Gush Katif flag, bearing the proclamation ‘We will build it, we are returning to Gush Katif,’ which is a former Israeli settlement in Gaza, disbanded in 2005.

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    ---23 min--23 jan 2024 #TheGrayzone
    Mohammed Al-Bukhaiti, senior political officer and spokesman for Yemen's Ansarallah movement, explains the objectives behind his movement's naval blockade of the Red Sea in this interview with The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal. Al-Bukhaiti also responds to military threats from the Biden administration and allegations that Ansarallah is controlled by Iran's IRGC.

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    This is actually hilarious. According to a senior Biden administration official quoted in Politico (https://politico.com/newsletters/nat...uthis-00137030), the US's "plan to stop the Houthis" is essentially to wait until China steps in and does diplomacy 😅

    There's a tiny little flaw in the plan though: Chinese ships are allowed to transit via the red sea...

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    ⚓️ 🇾🇪 🔱 This was Sanaa just hours before the US-UK raids started. A tribal gathering, led by Ansarullah Commander Sayyed Muhammad Ali al-Houthi (H.A.), for "The Battle of The Promised Conquest and Holy Jihad". The Yemenis were stepping on American and usurping Zionist entity flags and hitting US ships for Gaza this morning... And they will be doing it again tomorrow. Joe Biden and Rishi Sunak's bombardments for Zion are futile.

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    ⚓️ 🇾🇪 🔱 And here are the powerful, faithful Yemeni women of Sanaa with a rally of their own for "The Battle of The Promised Conquest and Holy Jihad". Niqab-clad. Fists up. One banner of the Sarkha raised after another. Yemeni and Palestinian flags side-by-side. There isn't a single segment of Yemeni society, male or female, young or old, civilian or military, that is afraid of London, Washington or Zion. Until the liberation of Al-Quds or the attainment of martyrdom while fighting for it, Yemen, spearheaded by Ansarullah, will resist!

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    ---23 min--23 jan 2024 #TheGrayzone
    Mohammed Al-Bukhaiti, senior political officer and spokesman for Yemen's Ansarallah movement, explains the objectives behind his movement's naval blockade of the Red Sea in this interview with The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal. Al-Bukhaiti also responds to military threats from the Biden administration and allegations that Ansarallah is controlled by Iran's IRGC.
    REMARKABLE interview! Quoting Mohammed Al-Bukhaiti:
    "My message to the protesters and those supporting us in the USA and the UK, is to keep going. Our fight is one, whether we are Muslims, Christians or even Jews, to defeat the gang of Zionists leaders in Washington or London, a gang that has caused a lot of suffering in the world."

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    --live--23/1/24--Russia and Ukraine engaged in a fierce debate at the United Nations Security Council on Monday over the war. Sergei Lavrov said that Moscow is always ready to negotiate peace, but he claimed peace plans presented by Ukraine and its Western “masters” are “only used as cover to continue war and continue getting money from Western taxpayers.” Meanwhile, Ukraine said that Russia is not interested in peace in the region and added that the number of victims has decreased because most Russian missiles do not achieve their targets. Sergei Kyslytsya added that Ukraine’s fightback has been bolstered by the air defence provided by its allies.

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    So, it appears at this time that Trump will be the Republican's candidate for the 2024 elections. Many if not most of the candidates on all sides have commented or taken position with regards to the current Israel-Hamas war. But I haven't seen any comment from Trump about this. Does anyone here know of anything Trump might have said on that issue?

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    New from The Moon of Alabama today. (Bernhard, the author, is understandably getting frustrated and isn't mincing his words )
    To Hope that China will Help with Yemen is Delusional Bullshit

    The lunatic Biden policy with regards to Yemen will obviously fail to reach any positive results. The White House and Biden know this and he has even publicly admitted so much.

    Last night the U.S.and UK again bombed Yemen:
    Monday night’s moves marked the eighth round of allied attacks on the Houthis since the first on Jan. 12. American and British forces said they hit eight targets, including an underground storage site and locations for launching missiles and carrying out air-surveillance.
    I doubt that the U.S. or UK knows anything about Yemeni 'underground storage sites' or other missile locations.
    It simply does not have such information:
    A third senior official said on Monday that figure may have crept up to 30 to 40 percent after at least 25 to 30 precision-guided munitions successfully hit their targets on Monday. But other U.S. intelligence officials who have been briefed on the size and scope of the Houthis’ arsenal say analysts are not sure how much weaponry the group started with.

    American and other Western intelligence agencies have not spent significant time or resources in recent years collecting data on the location of Houthi air defenses, command hubs, munitions depots and storage and production facilities for drones and missiles, the officials said.
    The delusion in the White House is that 'doing something', like bombing random targets In Yemen, will change things continues. This question is still unanswered:

    How to stop the Houthis - Politico, Jan 22, 2024
    A senior administration official laid it out as follows. The U.S. attacks on Houthi targets will degrade the militants’ abilities to keep shooting at ships, as will the interdiction of vessels carrying weapons to Yemen. Last week’s redesignation of the Houthis as terrorists will increase the sanctions pressure on them, starving fighters of the resources that bankroll operations. Eventually, the official continued, regional countries and other nations with an interest in open sea lanes — China, for example — will demand an end to the shipping crisis that has inflated prices and imperiled lives. Meanwhile, Israel’s plan for more targeted operations in Gaza could mean fewer civilian casualties, which would weaken the Houthis’ case for rising to the Palestinians’ defense. An end to the war would remove that rallying cry.
    The White House is obviously not even reading the news by the media it directly controls:

    Houthis Won't Target Chinese, Russian Ships in Red Sea - Voice of America, Jan 19, 2024
    A senior official of the Iranian-backed Houthi terrorist group says Chinese and Russian vessels will have safe passage through the Red Sea. Mohammed al-Bukhaiti, a member of the Houthi political leadership, said in an interview with the Russian outlet Izvestia that the shipping lanes around Yemen are safe to ships from China and Russia as long as vessels are not connected with Israel, Agence France-Presse reported Friday, citing Izvestia.
    The Houthis have said they are acting in solidarity with Palestinians amid Israel’s war against Hamas militants in Gaza and have carried out more than 30 attacks in the Red Sea.
    All western container carriers who have serviced the Asia-Europe lines will now lose container booking from Chinese exporters to Europe. The big Chinese container lines, which have openly announced to not service Israel, will now receive those transport orders. They can offer a shorter and much cheaper trip through the Red Sea while western carriers must go all around Africa to be able to reach their destination.

    China and to an extend Russia will again profit from such basic U.S. policy mistakes. To hope that they will somehow intervene to end that situation is simply absurd.

    Politico concluded the part quoted above with this paragraph:
    But even if all those various elements lined up, it’s still not clear the strategic picture the Houthis care about will shift radically enough for a course correction.
    That is written to sound nice but it essentially means that the policy is utter bullshit.

    As Caitlin Johnstone summarizes:
    We live in a dystopian world where it’s completely normalized to subvert human interests to commercial interests, to toss tens of thousands of lives into the incinerator for wealth and convenience. Where war profiteers rake in vast fortunes for selling instruments of mass murder to genocidal governments, and where the most powerful empire in history declares a war to defend shipping containers at the cost of human life. Don’t ever let these sick freaks convince you that this is normal.

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