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    Interesting... I know, so many people are lurking, watching Tarot readers... some are pro Trump, some against... and some are neutral...

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    Here is one Tarot reader from Australia..

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    An interesting article from Roeper (normally quoted in the Ukrain war thread a lot) listing the pros and (also lots of!) cons of Trump returning as president.

    https://www-anti--spiegel-ru.transla..._x_tr_pto=wapp

    Copy of translated text:

    Why a Trump presidency would create many new problems


    For many critics of US politics, Trump is seen as a real beacon of hope, which seems quite justified on some issues. However, a US President Trump would create many new problems. It is therefore worth taking a closer look at Donald Trump's political positions.

    from Anti-Spiegel
    February 5, 2024 9:45 p.m

    Many critics of Western politics look back on Donald Trump's presidency with real nostalgia, and there are also some objective reasons for this. Trump was the first US president in decades (or perhaps even over a hundred years) not to start a new war. This is of course a big plus point, which is why Trump's statements that the escalation in Ukraine would not have happened under him can be taken seriously, because he would not have supported Ukraine in this way against Russia, nor would he have supported Russia by accepting Ukraine into it NATO was put under so much pressure that, in its view, Russia had no choice but to intervene militarily.

    The escalation in Ukraine would not have happened with a US President Trump, but that is just one issue of many.

    Trump also claims that the escalation in the Middle East did not happen under him. In my view, the opposite is the case, because in my opinion Trump actually laid one of the foundations for the escalation in Gaza and Israel, but we'll get to that later.

    For now, let’s stick with what I think Trump did well.

    Trump and the US Democrats

    As is well known, this is by no means a given in “Western democracies”, Trump has implemented his election promises or at least seriously tried to do so. His presidency was a blessing for the US economy and also for the real incomes of US citizens. Trump has also taken action against uncontrolled mass migration, which has become one of the most pressing problems in US domestic policy today under Biden. Trump took his slogan “Make America Great Again” (MAGA) seriously and did a lot to improve the lives of ordinary US citizens.

    However, the measures against the alleged Covid epidemic, which were introduced in US states governed by US Democrats from the beginning of 2020, have wiped out the economic successes of the Trump administration.

    Which brings us to the Democrats. It is hardly surprising that in the 2020 election year they happily introduced Covid measures that destroyed Trump's economic successes, because without massive dissatisfaction among the US population, which was then also caused by the BLM paid for by Democratic supporters movement was strengthened, it would have been difficult to prevent Trump from winning the election due to his good economic record. That's why BLM was immediately called off by the Democrats as soon as the election was over in November 2020.

    And the fact that the Democrats are against controlling mass migration and border fences with Mexico is purely for political reasons. Migrants are potential Democratic voters, not Republicans. Allowing millions of migrants to come to the US uncontrolled and then at some point legalizing their immigration in a kind of mass amnesty and offering them US citizenship would cement Democrats' power and reduce Republicans' future electoral chances.

    Trump's negative list

    But Trump's presidency also had a very extensive list of negatives, which are often forgotten by those who want to see Trump as president again. I'm not talking about Americans here, but primarily about Europeans and Russians, many of whom are of the opinion that a return of Trump to the White House would ease tensions on the international stage. That shouldn't happen.

    This was also visible in his first presidency. Under Trump, for example, the US has introduced more sanctions against Russia than under any previous government. Although the sanctions had almost no effect because economic ties between Russia and the US were too weak, the introduction of sanctions does not signal interest in improving relations or reducing tensions.

    Yes, the US Democrats and also the “Deep State”, i.e. the government bureaucracy in Washington, have put many obstacles in Trump's way and perhaps Trump has imposed many of the sanctions in order to satisfy the lie spread by the Democratic-affiliated media that Trump is a Russian agent to take the wind out of his sails. One can speculate for a long time about what Trump was pressured to do and what he did on his own initiative, but the fact remains that he imposed the sanctions and did not send any signals of relaxation to Moscow.

    The fact that Trump was unable to achieve many things against the Deep State was shown by his order to withdraw US troops from Syria. As commander in chief of the US armed forces, he ordered this, but the Pentagon simply refused the order and the US soldiers are still in Syria. This episode shows that the US President has far less power than one should think when his own Department of Defense can simply blatantly ignore his orders.

    Trump's actions against Venezuela were also criminal. At the direction of his government, Guaido attempted the coup and, when the coup failed, the United States imposed brutal sanctions on Venezuela. Even the delivery of medicine was sanctioned, which is why many people in Venezuela died as a result of Trump's fault.

    The motivation behind this was Venezuelan oil, which the US oil companies are keen on, but which the government in Venezuela does not want to hand over to them at ridiculous prices. Here Trump behaved no differently than all his predecessors. The only difference is that at least Trump didn't try to invade Venezuela.

    One of his first official acts also showed that Trump was by no means a “peace president”. He traveled to Saudi Arabia and concluded the largest arms deal in history with the absolutist monarchy. From the US perspective, that was good; it brought money and jobs, but it shows that Trump placed a lot of value on the defense industry.

    As with Venezuela, Trump has shown that he massively supports the US arms and oil industries, if necessary with violent measures such as sanctions against Venezuela. What distinguished him from previous US presidents is that he did not fight as hard for Wall Street and the Internet companies.

    Another of Trump's sins was breaking the Iran nuclear deal and reintroducing severe sanctions against Iran. Iran had adhered to all the terms of the agreement, but Trump thought the nuclear deal was stupid and quickly broke it.

    MAGA or MIGA?

    It is because of Israel that Trump took action against Iran. Trump was perhaps the most Israel-friendly US president in recent decades. And Israel was a staunch opponent of the nuclear deal. Trump has fulfilled Israel's wishes on this issue.

    Trump has prided himself on being extremely pro-Israel. This was also reflected in the decision to recognize all of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital. However, Israel has occupied East Jerusalem in violation of international law since 1967 and East Jerusalem is designated as the capital of the Palestinian state according to the UN resolutions on the two-state solution.

    If you now know that from the beginning of 2023 Israel has repeatedly provoked at the al-Aqsa mosque, which is located in East Jerusalem , and that Hamas used these Israeli provocations as the reason for its attack on Israel on October 7th then it becomes clear that Trump, with his official recognition of the Israeli annexation of East Jerusalem, has made an important contribution to the escalation that we are currently experiencing in Gaza.

    Trump's entire foreign policy was far more pro-Israel than that of probably any US president before him. He also boasts about this himself, because after the Hamas attack, Trump said, for example:

    “So I fought for Israel like no president before, recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, which is a big deal. And [I] even recognized Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights, something they never thought possible – we gave that to them.”

    The Golan Heights belong to Syria and have also been illegally occupied by Israel. Trump acknowledged that too.

    So you can and must ask yourself whether Trump's politics are more MAGA (Make America Great Again) or MIGA (Make Israel Great Again).

    A next presidency?

    What Trump says about his plans for the next presidency is also interesting. About two weeks ago, he named US Senator Lindsey Graham, who is particularly notable for being one of the most radical hawks in Washington, as a possible vice president under him. He famously said that the war in Ukraine was a great investment for the USA because it only had to use relatively little money and no soldiers of its own to kill as many Russians as possible.

    Russia put Graham under arrest for these comments, to which Graham responded that his “commitment to Ukraine had angered the Russian government,” which is why he viewed the arrest warrant as a “badge of honor.”

    If Trump were interested in reducing international tensions and improving relations with Russia, would he even consider such a man as a possible vice president?

    But that's not enough. Lindsey Graham has been in favor of all US wars and interventions over the past decades. He has just called for a first strike against Iran, the first target of which should be the capital Tehran. But Trump said of Graham, “I like Lindsey.”

    Plague and cholera (edit OMD: this means to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea)

    Plague and cholera will therefore be on the ballot in the next election in the USA. US citizens can choose between the aged and demented Biden and the eccentric Trump.

    Biden stands for the transatlantic people, for the uncompromising anti-Russian policy, for the unconditional support of the corrupt Nazi regime in Kiev (with Europe now having to bear the costs) and for the usual neoliberal narratives such as climate change, LGBT and so on.

    Trump stands for uncompromising support for Israel, even if it commits genocide in Gaza, although Trump is, as seen, complicit in the developments there. Trump also represents a possible escalation in the Middle East and a possible war with Iran. And Trump also wants the USA's vassals to cover the costs, for example by sending refugees from such wars to Europe.

    And one can also doubt whether Trump's assurances that he wants to relax relations with Russia can be taken seriously. In any case, he has achieved nothing of the sort in his first term, and nothing good can be expected when he considers people like Lindsey Graham as possible vice presidents.

    In addition, it was Trump who unleashed the economic war against China. However, a real rapprochement between the USA and Russia is only possible if the USA's relations with China are also relaxed, because Russia will not agree to pay for better relations with the USA by deteriorating relations with China.

    So you can understand why Putin said that for Russia it doesn't really matter who is president in the USA. Trump won't improve relations with Russia either, because that doesn't help either MAGA or MIGA...
    Propaganda entails appealing to the best in human nature to convince the audience to do the worst in human nature. - Glenn Diesen

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    Trump is pathological liar through his previous and today's moments of his life... he is nothing but a loser!!! Sorry to MAGAs... or MIGAs!!!!


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    Trump's ENTIRE FAMILY has trouble "remembering..." Just the same as Biden's... all of them are having memory issues... for sure!!!

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    His behaviour is really irresponsible "you have to pay your bills.”.... Who he is???? Wow, “pay your bills” coming from the man who doesn't pay his bills .... did Trump payed all his bills through decades ??? We know, he was sued on and on and on... he was bankrupted few times... etc... He is pathetic!!!

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    Regardless of Trump's fiduciary picadilloes, real or imagined, Nato nations have not paid their bills. That is a fact.

    In fact, America pays the bills of many nations and not only for national defense.
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Regardless of Trump's fiduciary picadilloes, real or imagined, Nato nations have not paid their bills. That is a fact.

    In fact, America pays the bills of many nations and not only for national defense.
    I know that for small countries as my native Slovenia... countries are paying their shares... You can not compare US with some countries with 2 millions people as Slovenia, or the others with 10 or 20 millions.. Why US are having all over the world these army bases?????
    I still see Trump as con man! Period!!!!

    Here is a Funding NATO!

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm

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    OMG! Ha ha ha....The room can never be big enough to have little Donald... and anybody else at the same time, can it?
    That's sooooo sad! This little man needs 100% of the attention on himself... 24/7
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    I don't normally bother to look at the blatantly anti Trump propaganda videos in this thread but my interest was piqued by the Taylor Swift thing... and I've learnt a couple of things !!! - no not about 'Orange Man Bad'......

    first about the The Music Modernization Act (in 2 Minutes) that Trump signed into law October 11th 2018...

    Quote wiki quote.....United States legislation signed into law on October 11, 2018 aimed to modernize copyright-related issues for music and audio recordings due to new forms of technology such as digital streaming. It is a consolidation of three separate bills introduced during the 115th United States Congress.


    and second...(after looking at David Pakman's channel) and seeing that there's conspiracy speculation - about the Super Bowl game being rigged for political purposes...which, of course Pakman mocks - well he would wouldn't he -

    interestingly it looks like it could be a real thing - and with it being the biggest sporting event of the year in America - it makes total sense that the Deep State Puppeteers in cahoots with the Democrat Party would not leave anything to chance and would manipulate the whole event to promote their own agenda...including the outcome of the game...!

    GBNews
    Quote At the start of the month, CBS Sports chairman Sean McManus said: "The NFL has alerted us that, for the first time ever, we will have a double overtime game (in the Super Bowl)."

    But some fans on social media have now claimed McManus' comments prove the Super Bowl was rigged given they correctly called overtime.

    "NFL is never beating the rigged/scripted allegations after this one… #SuperBowl," said one X user.

    "The 49ers had it won before that late night point dump. Rigged! #SuperBowl," were the words of a second.

    A third said: "#SuperBowl more rigged for the Chiefs and Swift than pro wrestling."

    Suspicious Video Has San Francisco 49ers Fans Claim NFL ‘Rigged’ Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl Win(1:04)



    and

    Biden posts Dark Brandon meme after Super Bowl, Trump responds(1:00)





    I know nothing about American Football.... but I would think that the game could easily be rigged with the right amount of bribery/blackmail/coercion....and the players would cooperate.....and keep their mouths shut....

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    He said it all... he didn't become smarter in these moments... less!!!!

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    Always money... this grifters... who was a con... stays always in all ways a con! Trump and his Slovenian nude mannequin wife... really smelly!!!! We know her very well in EU!

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    Lol Bojocan. Im fascinated with the idea of if Trump and RFK run together on the same ticket. Will you short circuit?

    as I said, I like RFK, but everyone has to play ball someway somehow. Trump was here 4 years. how was the grifting? how many billions we sent to other countries against our own people interests?

    ok carry on. d

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    Lol Bojocan. Im fascinated with the idea of if Trump and RFK run together on the same ticket. Will you short circuit?

    as I said, I like RFK, but everyone has to play ball someway somehow. Trump was here 4 years. how was the grifting? how many billions we sent to other countries against our own people interests?

    ok carry on. d
    I understand you... and I know, that YOU KNOW also, that I do not respect Biden! I do not see RFK to go with T... never ever! More "shadow" will shine on Trump! I think, that through the coming months, RFK will shine all around! He does not need to be align with this black spot aka Trump...

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    This is interesting video TYT... regarding Jon Stewart... criticizing Trump and Biden!

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    Do you remember democrat candidate John Edwards... Federal prosecutors accused him... of soliciting nearly $1 million from wealthy donors to hide his affair with videographer Riellie Hunter... and to prevent damage to his reputation as a family man during his campaign... he had to resign....
    The same.. with a grand jury weighing charges against Trump... for sure the case is drawing comparisons to the indictment of a rising Edwards over a decade ago that also involved hush money accusations....

    And... is he a really loyal, fateful Cristian husband, as Maga people see him as their lieder??? NOT!

    For Trump... it's election's interference! He really want to be above the law! ALWAYS!

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    Catherine Austin Fitts: You can say Trump was on board for a depopulation [with Covid jabs] or Trump got rolled. Either one is not a very good case to be made that he ought to be president.

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2...s/#more-329229

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    Not only because of this topic below... but regarding on his stile of living with criminal people, his behaviour, his words and acts through all his life... he can not be truth worthy president... He is pathological liar and scammer! He highjacked the Truth Movement, because that the way, he thought ... he can stay out of Justice!!! He is bad enigma...

    And I forgot to mention .. that Trump gave 60millions to GAVI... Gates's company!!! Incompetence or criminal!!!!!

    Trump spent $10 billion on US depopulation: Catherine Austin Fitts

    Was he a full accomplice in the killing program, or just a tool, manipulated into it? Either way, we need him in the White House just as much as we need Old Joe Biden there

    Scroll down for a reminder of how badly Biden wanted everybody “vaccinated,” then further down for some reminders of Trump’s “booster boosterism” after he was president.
    In an interview with Greg Hunter from USA Watchdog, Catherine Austin Fitts has said that “No matter who is president, they will allow bioweapons to kill Americans without hesitation.” She also argues that the former president Donald Trump is either a knowing participant in the Covid bioweapon operation, or he is grossly incompetent not to understand what’s happening, which Fitts claims is highly unlikely.

    “In either case, Trump should not be president,” opines Fitts, “just as toxic injection mandater Joe Biden shouldn’t, either.”

    Catherine Austin Fitts: You can say Trump was on board for a depopulation [with Covid jabs] or Trump got rolled. Either one is not a very good case to be made that he ought to be president.

    Greg Hunter: I just can’t believe that he would say, sure, let’s kill millions of people.

    Catherine Austin Fitts: But go back. Then you’re saying he’s incompetent, because if I knew what I knew [about vaccines] — don’t tell me I knew more than Trump. I just don’t buy that.

    More here!!!

    https://expose-news.com/2024/02/15/catherine-austin-fitts-trump-put-10-billion-dollars-into-a-programme-to-depopulate-the-us/
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    Personally, I prefer the republican form of government. But if you prefer the socialist democratic form, who am I to deter you. Of course, since you consented, you have no grounds to complain nor alter the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republics of America. You DID consent, didn't you?

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    Quote Posted by ozmirage (here)
    Personally, I prefer the republican form of government. But if you prefer the socialist democratic form, who am I to deter you. Of course, since you consented, you have no grounds to complain nor alter the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republics of America. You DID consent, didn't you?
    I see.. that you didn't read what so many times I wrote about my opinion... I am not for Trump or Biden...

    Regarding socialists... Parents of Melania and all family were for 45 years communists in Slovenia, members of KPS and previous of Yugoslavia KPJK... and only after they came in US, in 2015 became Christians... the same as Melania sister Ines... we know this grifter's family very well!

    I am not .. and never was member of any party.. our family in Slovenia was Christians always.. never communists.. and I am in second half of eight decade.. old enough to perceive some truth and behaviour of those oneday's truthers and politicians....

    If you see this Trump's wagon as the shinning lights on the path of truth, humanity, justice, love and compassion... I do not see that! I do not want to be in or just to be complicit in that saga... OMG!!!!

    Grifters stays grifters... can not become opposite... after what was happening in past and just as is happening now... I am saying this for Drumpf.. and his own state of being... and as of a human being he is!

    And I will add here too this... Trump is complicit on genocide of Palestinians.. as Biden! he is not different than B... so you are complicit to genocide, because you are on Trump's wagon, ozmirage ... ?????

    He was bankrupted many times in the Past!!! He was alway on a taxpayer's dollars!

    Trump RUNS OUT OF CASH at WORST MOMENT For Him
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    I'm wondering why the judge didn't just ENRON Trumps stupid company... Trump was not truth worthy many decades.. Finally, New York will be a better place to do business. Good job L James!!!! Congratulations New Yorkers!!!!!!
    And Trump was all his life a Democrat!!! Part of this group of famous friends...

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