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    • Crisis in Physics, Overhyped Physicists: Neil de Grasse Tyson:

    00:00 Alexander Unzicker discusses Neil deGrasse Tyson, acknowledging his positive attributes as a scientist and science communicator, but also criticizes his representation of American practical-style physics versus European philosophical traditions.

    01:28 Neil deGrasse Tyson is praised for demanding evidence in science but criticized for misunderstanding the relationship between physics and philosophy, as evidenced in a recent podcast.

    02:39 Despite being labeled as an "overhyped physicist," the video acknowledges Tyson's merits and appreciation for his questioning of string theory's progress.

    04:32 A distinction is drawn between European and American physics styles, emphasizing a shift from seeking insight to pursuing technological applications in contemporary physics.

    06:08 Tyson's definition of physics evolves from utilitarian applications to a more insightful pursuit, reflecting a nuanced understanding of the field.

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    Alexander Unzicker challenges Tyson's view on the diminishing role of philosophy in physics after 1900, highlighting the continuous influence of philosophical questions on physics, especially during the successful period in the early 20th century.

    09:23 The dismissal of philosophers by Tyson is countered with examples of influential physicists who were also philosophers, emphasizing the interconnectedness of philosophy and physics.

    11:10 Tyson's utilitarian attitude towards quantum physics is paralleled with Heisenberg's observations of a similar mindset among American physicists in the 1920s, reflecting a historical perspective.

    12:20 Alexander Unzicker supports the idea that physicists, including Tyson, should engage in deeper philosophical questions about the nature of reality and the fundamental aspects of physics.

    15:18 Tyson's attempt to credit Mark's principle is questioned, suggesting that Tyson may not fully grasp its significance and its departure from mainstream cosmology.

    18:37 Alexander Unzicker criticizes Tyson's claim that modern physics is inaccessible to philosophers, arguing that the post-war era saw a decline in fundamental theories due to a departure from philosophical questioning.

    21:30 Tyson's lecture style and lack of humility are contrasted with historical figures like Einstein, Shing, and Dirac, who acknowledged the vastness of unknowns in their respective fields.

    22:54
    The video concludes by pointing out a fundamental problem in the scientific culture, advocating for a return to the thorough thinking of the 1930s to make progress in fundamental physics.
    • @BobWidlefish quote:
    "As an American philosopher who knows physics, I couldn’t possibly agree more! Neil isn’t what he seems. He’s an intellectual gatekeeper whose job is to decide what ideas and approaches are acceptable inside the Overton window for low-achievement academics who fancy themselves as the expert class.

    Modern “physicists” are very often mathematicians more-so than true physicists who have a grasp of epistemology. The term physicist has been captured by the gatekeeper class so it means what they want it to me. To them it means you got a PhD in physics from a school they accept and believe the same brings as them".






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    Default Re: Crisis in Physics, Overhyped Physicists: Neil de Grasse Tyson

    I don't wish to sound rude, but, I have always looked at NDT as an educated imbecile. I get absolutely no sense of real intellect or intelligence from this guy.
    Oftentimes I find it hard to listen to him because of his arrogance, even when he speaks about something interesting.

    Or the problem might be with me, not him

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    Default Re: Crisis in Physics, Overhyped Physicists: Neil de Grasse Tyson

    Quote Posted by XelNaga (here)
    I don't wish to sound rude, but, I have always looked at NDT as an educated imbecile. I get absolutely no sense of real intellect or intelligence from this guy.
    Oftentimes I find it hard to listen to him because of his arrogance, even when he speaks about something interesting.

    Or the problem might be with me, not him

    Which guy? Neil de Grasse Tyson or or Alexander Unzicker ?
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    Default Re: Crisis in Physics, Overhyped Physicists: Neil de Grasse Tyson

    NDL is the Zahi Hawass Version of a physicist, one of many gatekeepers.
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    Default Re: Crisis in Physics, Overhyped Physicists: Neil de Grasse Tyson

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    Quote Posted by XelNaga (here)
    I don't wish to sound rude, but, I have always looked at NDT as an educated imbecile. I get absolutely no sense of real intellect or intelligence from this guy.
    Oftentimes I find it hard to listen to him because of his arrogance, even when he speaks about something interesting.

    Or the problem might be with me, not him

    Which guy? Neil de Grasse Tyson or or Alexander Unzicker ?
    Neil de Grasse Tyson.

    I wrote his name as NDT, he doesn't deserve more letters from me

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    Default Re: Crisis in Physics, Overhyped Physicists: Neil de Grasse Tyson

    Quote Posted by seehas (here)
    NDL is the Zahi Hawass Version of a physicist, one of many gatekeepers.
    Add 'Mr Evolution' , the 'biolog-athe-ist' Richard Dawkins to the list.

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    Default Re: Crisis in Physics, Overhyped Physicists: Neil de Grasse Tyson

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    NDL is the Zahi Hawass Version of a physicist, one of many gatekeepers.
    Completely agree. He's one to add to the list of...

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    Default Re: Crisis in Physics, Overhyped Physicists: Neil de Grasse Tyson

    He is a Gatekeeper. I have a friend who was subject to his predation in college. She pursued him legally and was shunted aside due to his increasing public presence and power. I've always looked at him with a side-eye since I found that out, and that was back in the late 1990s.

    I'm sure there have been other incidences with him abusing his power with women. Those who ensconced him in his present position of authority always have dirt on those they place.

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    Default Re: Crisis in Physics, Overhyped Physicists: Neil de Grasse Tyson

    I don't wish to sound rude, but, I have always looked at NDT as an educated imbecile. I get absolutely no sense of real intellect or intelligence from this guy.
    Oftentimes I find it hard to listen to him because of his arrogance, even when he speaks about something interesting.

    Or the problem might be with me, not him

    I have the same opinion, he's a knucklehead for sure.

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