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    I discovered this rabbit hole a few years ago and got really interested in the whole thing. The more I looked into it the more doubtful I became of 99% of the claims. As someone who loves cartography I can say the old maps are very fascinating, and there was definitely a large region in Asia called Tartaria or Grand Tartary, cartographers didn't just make things up like that, and certainly not multiple cartographers over many years. So, yes, I think there was a country or nation which has been purposefully erased.
    That said, I can confidently say we know absolutely nothing about it other than it existed. Everything else is conjecture based on preconceptions and prejudices. The mudfloods, the orphan trains, the free energy, the wars, all of it amounts to a big nothing burger when you dig into it. The problem is, which I've realized after researching this topic for the last few years, we'll never know what happened or why, which is why I've pretty much stopped paying attention to it except in a very tertiary way.
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    I discovered this rabbit hole a few years ago and got really interested in the whole thing. The more I looked into it the more doubtful I became of 99% of the claims. As someone who loves cartography I can say the old maps are very fascinating, and there was definitely a large region in Asia called Tartaria or Grand Tartary, cartographers didn't just make things up like that, and certainly not multiple cartographers over many years. So, yes, I think there was a country or nation which has been purposefully erased.
    That said, I can confidently say we know absolutely nothing about it other than it existed. Everything else is conjecture based on preconceptions and prejudices. The mudfloods, the orphan trains, the free energy, the wars, all of it amounts to a big nothing burger when you dig into it. The problem is, which I've realized after researching this topic for the last few years, we'll never know what happened or why, which is why I've pretty much stopped paying attention to it except in a very tertiary way.
    Tartar or rather those called Tatars still exist. They are many groups from central Asia to Crimea. Most have been decimated by the soviets, millions and millions of them.

    However, still nowaday, a large portion of the russian scientists are of Tatar origin. (some russians say that soviet have killed the russian intelligentsia and now they import from the east, namely the Tatars. Their language is turkick, which is an altaic language, they are Muslim now for the last 500-600 years, they were previously more of a matriarchal culture like the North American Iroquois (which means that it is a circle of elder women who have the final say in major decisions)

    I don’t know more about this. I have been told what I wrote, haven’t read it. Met a few tatars in my life. Even married one.
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    This is a video from LitesOfTheRoundTableTV. There's four guests with James Rink doing most of the talking. He started by discussing Count Saint Germain. He's a being that was manifested via prayers. He was Joesph, Columbus and Merlin. He has an office in the White House where he or documents will magically appear. A drone flew through a portal and ended up in a paralleled earth where there was a United States of Europe. Cities are placed on ley line or dragon lines. There's been a city in Chicago since 300 BC. Living gold that you can drink was mentioned. Rainetta who's been interviewed by James and Radu Cinamar's books mentioned living gold. There was a great mud flood. Tartaria was north of China and they built the Great Wall. Tesla faked his death and is still alive via an age regression technology. Putin was replaced due to an impending nuclear war. The Tartarians were twelve feet tall.

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    Cool The Werewolf Game - Agents from Russia - A New Take on the Russia-Ukraine War

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    "Recently, a deluge of information regarding a lost civilization known as “Tartaria” has flooded the internet, and many researchers tell us that the heart of Tartaria was the same general region of the world from whence the werewolf cult emerged.

    As with any subject, there are many different schools of thought regarding what Tartaria may or may not have been—I’m not here to endorse nor debunk any particular “version” of popular Tartarian lore. What I do find noteworthy is how HUGE of a topic it became in recent years. The sudden explosion of popularity in a given subject often indicates social engineering of some kind or another. As always, the question is… why?"

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    Agreed. This has all the makings of an Op, sort of like Flat Earth was up until about three years ago.

    Did Tartaria replace it? Is Tartaria (like Flat Earth before it) an experiment to determine the malleability of the Normals?

    We shall see.

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    I think Tartaria has become a hot topic because it's so easy now to see ancient structures all over the planet from the air via Google Earth, etc.
    I've found the most interesting discussions and photos, etc concerning Tartaria on the Cryptoalchemist channel, and I've featured some of them on this thread:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1544390

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    "Recently, a deluge of information regarding a lost civilization known as “Tartaria” has flooded the internet, and many researchers tell us that the heart of Tartaria was the same general region of the world from whence the werewolf cult emerged.

    As with any subject, there are many different schools of thought regarding what Tartaria may or may not have been—I’m not here to endorse nor debunk any particular “version” of popular Tartarian lore. What I do find noteworthy is how HUGE of a topic it became in recent years. The sudden explosion of popularity in a given subject often indicates social engineering of some kind or another. As always, the question is… why?"

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    Default Re: Tartaria - is/was this a real thing?

    This information is on Benjamin Fulford's site under Beyond Blue Beam. There's a portion of a declassified CIA document from 1957 about Tartaria. They suggest the Great Wall of China was built by them due to access points on their side. In one of the TikTok videos the last queen of Tartaria queen Genepil is compared to queen Amidala from Star Wars.



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    In this installment of Benjamin Fulford's series Beyond Blue Beam he has a video showing images of the aftermath of the global mud flood. It reminded me of the theory that the dark seas on the moon is debris that was pumped out possibly to make underground chambers. Another video shows rocks structures that have human features and it looks like pareidolia. The rest are UFO/UAP videos to follow the theme of his series.

    The mud flood is in the first video.

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    I don't know anything but I have many suspicions as did Robert Anton Wilson.

    I suspect that I am a robotic human in all my upbringing. I was brought up by the minion class ethos. It seeped into my bones. The minion class thoroughly is absorbed in some sort of AI false light hive. It is a GODLESS class. We were trained to interface with the SYSTEM. It is a SPIRIT that runs through families. It is everything we have heard about us being traumatized intentionally and cruelty actually applauded if it is subtle. There is religion on only a ritualistic level and I think it may have been around for thousands of years as an EGREGORE, an Astral control center which interfaces with humans.

    I was well trained I think to be incurious...simply unable to formulate penetrating questions. I could go on and on about what we have learned to understand as US as narcissistic false facade robots. I see through it and it literally makes me want to vomit. I DREAM of Tartaria's truth being a civilized working relationship direct to GOD, Unknown source....THE AETHER. I KNOW what is good, what is beautiful, pure and what is EVIL. I have lived with the minions who are not able to feel their soul. To me this is what the SYSTEM SEEKS< the severance of contact with SOURCE so we can be tricked by FALSE goods. The discernment of what is true happens when you are connected to Source, THE AETHER.

    I don't think the story making works like the minions believe. They have NO imagination. They simply project an assimilated story which is not connected to their hearts. It is heart wrenching to observe what the SYSTEM has done in this collective story to HURT HUMAN BEINGS so much they cannot bring the soul fully IN form.

    However, when you KNOW something, you can change your own story. I know that GOD is a PARADOX both an intellignet unknown infinity and a personal relationship. It is the RELATIONSHIP which feeds my whole being here. I am learning that to ME being sovereign is getting EVERY BIT OF MY ENERGY form the Aether as energy and information direct.

    IF I have no need of the SYSTEM, it cannot use me. The AETHER is ALL around us. All it takes is seriously contemplating being within the aether and it in you. I feel it. This PRESENCE is sentient with me. I feel I discern that the astral is making a mad grab for souls. Now i see the paradox is played out eternally.

    The polarity, the coins of the material realm are necessarily what will heal us and what will destroy us IF we cannot center ourselves in a neutral space WITH GOD.

    IMO the Unknown God is my guide to an UNKNOWN which I cannot even imagine. TRUST GOD, be in the heart space and be authentically what you love. I feel Tartaria is more than a real place. It is an astral realm that just like others has beings and existance. However, IF it is in the astral, there is only second hand life form human beings Source energy. It fuels the astral plane. This to me may be wrong but I am using it as a way of discernment. If a message has truth in it, I hear what is there. The message I hear is that true is

    YOU do not need any other source of anything at all when you develop the space where you FEEL the presence penetrating every cell. YOU the shine an energy that has a quality of taste EVIL avoids. Therefore in this realm, with God, we can observe that INCREDIBLY GOOD kind of being human. HOWEVER, no matter what story you are experiencing, it is all a spin on a known and repeating pattern. I consider the story I create about a civilization like Tartaria is the BEAUTY of what people create. The whole idea of ANYTHING though is a spin.

    The astral wants us stuck in the spin. The only way out is in the space you create where you commune with the Aether. Neville Goddard says that God is our own wonderful human imagination.

    My spin on the astral is that is was created by the mind. It is an accretion of every thought ever. It has a AI and a half life. It is fed indirect form God through us.

    In my imagination about it, we as story tellers meant to experience many realms by free will fell in love with the spin. It wants that spin one likes to go on and on. The aether IMO has movement and it is Unknown but HERE and on individual levels makes GREAT CHANGE available. It is change directed by perfection. The hook we have is our lack of perfection. That is the allure of spirituality and all faith in evolution. IMO this realm is absolutely NOT about being perfect but experiencing LIFE, unless you are programmed to pretend perfection and be a minion.

    Ensouled people seek the kingdom. They KNOW it by heart. You long for this "place". The world we live in has such a strong overlay of the astral IMO that it is choking and IMO we have a responsibility to clear our field. Learn how to BE not in the world mind but the heart mind.

    The way minions are caught is by the mind. They feel heart less. The spirit of God is denied. I was lucky to break the pattern when I FELT the Presence. I have changed with the help of my relationship to Divine.

    I have changed but I have terrible blind spots that are shadows and beliefs. One of the biggest things to deal with in my deconstruction is how I just cannot really grok being apart from the system. I HATE the SYSTEM I call the AI EVIL INVERSION OF WHATEVER IS GOOD.

    So in hating the SYSTEM, I am therefore attending attention and supposing the very condition that I repudiate has an existence and a reality. Then how do I contend with this paradox. I must go to the UNKNOWN and be mind less. All my thinking leads me in a spin.

    Know this is true and one begins to feel very comfortable not thinking and just participating and listening and communing with Source over all of what happens.

    PARADOX. I suspect at this time that the FIRST cause of the situation we live in is PARADOX inherent in this realm. I contemplate paradox now daily as I have faith that this is our freewill... choosing to let go of our creations so we can be fresh.
    In the silence where we hear subtle knowings, IMO we always are being in love.

    It is just so straight forward to meet the Aether as our birth right. The information and energy of TRUTH and LOVE is all around us.
    When we have FAITH we enter the Kingdom.

    It was the best of times and it was the worst of times.

    I DREAM about a realm like Tartaria.
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    Old World Order - Tartaria Truth

    Our history has been fabricated! The official narrative is that in the mid 1800's - early 1900's, men riding horse & buggy (or prisoners) built thousands of GIANT stone and marble structures (what's left of them anyways) and the official timeline of our recent past, does not match our reality. Our Rockefeller "his-story" books are pure fabrication! They teach us the "Great Chicago Fire" in school, but never tell us every major city was burned to the ground! Also, the civilization before us had amazing technology and were beyond advanced. There has been a massive cover-up!

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    • Old World Order Tartaria History, Everything We’ve Been Told Is A Lie:

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    • Incredible! New Discovery Solves 500-Year-Old Mystery On TARTARIA And Stolen Russian Architecture!:

    Discover the hidden history of Kazansky Train Station in Moscow, Russia, as we challenge conventional narratives about its origins. Our latest video delves into evidence suggesting that the station was built by the Tartarian Empire, predating the traditionally believed 1940 completion date. Explore the architectural anomalies, such as the Tartarian finial and similarities to the Sumbeka Tower in Kazan, which indicate a much older construction. Learn about the Soviet re-attribution of Tartar buildings and how these historical revisions shape our understanding today. Don't miss this intriguing investigation into Moscow's architectural past and the enduring legacy of the Tartarian Empire!
    • PROOF: The Tartarian Empire Is REAL (New Evidence Revealed):

    In today's video, I challenge the conventional historical narrative taught in schools and present compelling evidence of the forgotten Tartarian Empire. This vast civilization once held the largest territory ever recorded, and today I will provide proof of its existence and the systematic effort to erase its legacy.
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    A person who sees a glaring inconsistency in what has been presented is then able to question a subject in a new way. I see this opening to take in new perspectives as GOOD on so many levels, history, virus theory, the nature of reality. Huge amount of change.

    Just a few years ago, this whole subject of how is that these amazing structures were built so quickly was NOT my question at all. But to think about how DID beautiful crafted buildings suddenly appear all OVER, at the same time photographs show horse and buggy on mud streets, unlocks a barrier in my mind. Yes, I actually think we have had a kind of mental takeover which blocks deep questioning of what is in front of our senses.

    I see it dissolving for many. This whole subject, mud floods, the FIRES, the Expositions is fascinating. I want to know WHERE DID THE PEOPLE GO? There seemed to suddenly be fewer? How is it that something as unfathomable as total retroamnesia and a different history implanted happened? It boggles.

    My path is extreme woo which bases itself on separating out MY OBSERVER form as a POV on all the stories. I see all the spins as potential dead end allies of never ending uncertainty. Best just to feel OH WOW, HOW STRANGE it is here. The mind creates ever spinning wheels of doubtful uncertainty in which we spin.

    IMO I will never know anything but can enjoy reading the stories while having MY VERY OWN myth. In MY space, God IS and I am. To me and the reason I talk about it all the time is how we need to use the presentations as oNLY that. Out all we observe, there is a message for us about what WE want to imagine.

    I imagine that what I love about Tartaria is real in my imagination. What I love about every spin is there in my imagination. We NEED to create the place we want to live rather than take in what the realm is presenting us as options. To STOP imagining the world the adversary wants us to imagine for the inversion That is IMO the door out. OUR imagination MUST materialize. Thoughts are things. Choose the good ones being where you want to live the stories spinning.
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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    A person who sees a glaring inconsistency in what has been presented is then able to question a subject in a new way. I see this opening to take in new perspectives as GOOD on so many levels, history, virus theory, the nature of reality. Huge amount of change.

    Just a few years ago, this whole subject of how is that these amazing structures were built so quickly was NOT my question at all. But to think about how DID beautiful crafted buildings suddenly appear all OVER, at the same time photographs show horse and buggy on mud streets, unlocks a barrier in my mind. Yes, I actually think we have had a kind of mental takeover which blocks deep questioning of what is in front of our senses.

    I see it dissolving for many. This whole subject, mud floods, the FIRES, the Expositions is fascinating. I want to know WHERE DID THE PEOPLE GO? There seemed to suddenly be fewer? How is it that something as unfathomable as total retroamnesia and a different history implanted happened? It boggles.

    My path is extreme woo which bases itself on separating out MY OBSERVER form as a POV on all the stories. I see all the spins as potential dead end allies of never ending uncertainty. Best just to feel OH WOW, HOW STRANGE it is here. The mind creates ever spinning wheels of doubtful uncertainty in which we spin.

    IMO I will never know anything but can enjoy reading the stories while having MY VERY OWN myth. In MY space, God IS and I am. To me and the reason I talk about it all the time is how we need to use the presentations as oNLY that. Out all we observe, there is a message for us about what WE want to imagine.

    I imagine that what I love about Tartaria is real in my imagination. What I love about every spin is there in my imagination. We NEED to create the place we want to live rather than take in what the realm is presenting us as options. To STOP imagining the world the adversary wants us to imagine for the inversion That is IMO the door out. OUR imagination MUST materialize. Thoughts are things. Choose the good ones being where you want to live the stories spinning.
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    • Old World Order Tartaria History, Everything We’ve Been Told Is A Lie:

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v4wlxqr/?pub=ir01b
    • The Tartarian Empire (Full Theory Explained):

    Dive deep into the fascinating theory of the Tartarian Empire with our comprehensive exploration! This video unravels the mysteries of the Tartarian Empire, including the mudflood phenomenon, starforts, world's fairs, historical US city fires, incubator babies, airships, and the enigmatic orphan trains. Join us on this intriguing journey through history, conspiracy, and theory!

    00:00 - Introduction: Unveiling the Tartarian Mystery
    02:35 - The Orphan Operation: A Forgotten History
    06:05 - The World's Fair Cover-Up: What They Didn't Tell You
    09:13 - Tartaria Uncovered: The Lost Empire's History
    13:28 - The Great Fires: America's Burning Mystery
    16:30 - Starforts & Mudfloods: Unraveling the Secrets
    19:56 - Outtro: Final Thoughts & Reflections
    21:30 - Bonus: /r/Tartaria Archive Deep Dive

    There are hundreds if not thousands of mentions of Tartaria on old maps and in literature. It was a WORLDWIDE civilization. Many books with old maps that has it clearly labeled on multiple maps drawn by so many different cartographers.

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    • Grand Tartarian Thesis Part 1:

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    https://t.me/TartariaHistoryChannel/15684

    Pyramids discovered off the coast of Florida

    Two gigantic crystal pyramid have been verified by American and French scientists in the Bermuda Triangle near Florida.
    "With the use of sonar, oceanographer Dr. Meyer Verlag discovered giant glass pyramids at a depth of two-thousand meters. The use of other devices have allowed scientists to determine that these glass giants are both made of a crystal-like substance, and are nearly 3 times larger than the pyramid of Cheops in Egypt.

    In a press conference held in the Bahamas, the scientist presented a report with the exact coordinates of the pyramids. Most of the original documentation has disappeared from the web and instead this game changing discovery has been relegated to the fringe reporters.

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    Dark Journalist has been keeping very close tabs on what is going on in the "X zone" as he calls it, and I don't think I have seen anything on his channel that quite resembles this, though there are definitely underwater pyramids there, I haven't seen anything about them being composed of glass or crystal.
    I think I would check on the veracity of this report.

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    https://t.me/TartariaHistoryChannel/15684

    Pyramids discovered off the coast of Florida

    Two gigantic crystal pyramid have been verified by American and French scientists in the Bermuda Triangle near Florida.
    "With the use of sonar, oceanographer Dr. Meyer Verlag discovered giant glass pyramids at a depth of two-thousand meters. The use of other devices have allowed scientists to determine that these glass giants are both made of a crystal-like substance, and are nearly 3 times larger than the pyramid of Cheops in Egypt.

    In a press conference held in the Bahamas, the scientist presented a report with the exact coordinates of the pyramids. Most of the original documentation has disappeared from the web and instead this game changing discovery has been relegated to the fringe reporters.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Dark Journalist has been keeping very close tabs on what is going on in the "X zone" as he calls it, and I don't think I have seen anything on his channel that quite resembles this, though there are definitely underwater pyramids there, I haven't seen anything about them being composed of glass or crystal.
    I think I would check on the veracity of this report.

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    https://t.me/TartariaHistoryChannel/15684

    Pyramids discovered off the coast of Florida

    Two gigantic crystal pyramid have been verified by American and French scientists in the Bermuda Triangle near Florida.
    "With the use of sonar, oceanographer Dr. Meyer Verlag discovered giant glass pyramids at a depth of two-thousand meters. The use of other devices have allowed scientists to determine that these glass giants are both made of a crystal-like substance, and are nearly 3 times larger than the pyramid of Cheops in Egypt.

    In a press conference held in the Bahamas, the scientist presented a report with the exact coordinates of the pyramids. Most of the original documentation has disappeared from the web and instead this game changing discovery has been relegated to the fringe reporters.
    This is not a recent discovery - I think it was reported about a year ago - the "channel" that covers this has reported something like 246 pyramids so perhaps this one got missed along the way. I think the link above shows a pic of the pyramids. I think this video covers them.


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    Guy Anderson is writing a new book on the Tartarian Empire, but how do you research something that has been wiped from the our current history?
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