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    Quote Posted by ozmirage (here)
    Personally, I prefer the republican form of government. But if you prefer the socialist democratic form, who am I to deter you. Of course, since you consented, you have no grounds to complain nor alter the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republics of America. You DID consent, didn't you?
    I see.. that you didn't read what so many times I wrote about my opinion... I am not for Trump or Biden...

    Regarding socialists... Parents of Melania and all family were for 45 years communists in Slovenia, members of KPS and previous of Yugoslavia KPJK... and only after they came in US, in 2015 became Christians... the same as Melania sister Ines... we know this grifter's family very well!

    I am not .. and never was member of any party.. our family in Slovenia was Christians always.. never communists.. and I am in second half of eight decade.. old enough to perceive some truth and behaviour of those oneday's truthers and politicians....

    If you see this Trump's wagon as the shinning lights on the path of truth, humanity, justice, love and compassion... I do not see that! I do not want to be in or just to be complicit in that saga... OMG!!!!

    Grifters stays grifters... can not become opposite... after what was happening in past and just as is happening now... I am saying this for Drumpf.. and his own state of being... and as of a human being he is!

    And I will add here too this... Trump is complicit on genocide of Palestinians.. as Biden! he is not different than B... so you are complicit to genocide, because you are on Trump's wagon, ozmirage ... ?????
    Apparently, you are unaware of the definition of the republican form of government.
    Everything about voting and candidates is in the SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC FORM.
    Folks in the republican form do not vote, do not serve, and do not owe taxes and mandatory civic duties to the State.

    BTW- Muslims have been doing a bang up job, racking up over 800 million bodies in only 1400 years. The Jihadis of Palestine are doing their share of genocide, when you compare the population of Israel versus Islam.

    Israel's population was an estimated 9,656,000. In 2022, the government recorded 73.6% of the population as Jews, 21.1% as Arabs, and 5.3% as "Others" (non-Arab Christians and people who have no religion listed).

    As of 2020, 1.8 billion or more than 25% of the world population are Muslims.
    Which group is more likely to be wiped out by whom?

    And for the record, what response would you support in retaliation to an invasion, murder, rape and kidnapping of your friends and relations by your neighbors?
    [crickets chirping]
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    Why judge didn't Enron trumps stupid company? What kind of cow dung statement is that? And it's great that his company is fined over 300 million dollars?

    Let's start out with what it takes as a person who is in charge of a company that goes to borrow millions of dollars. It's the same scenario as buying your first house that is a deal involving a 6 digit figure. You go to the bank, present your assets and your ability to pay back the money. Your banker or mortgage company looks at what you have accumulated in assets and how stable you are in your job and your ability to pay it back based on how long you have worked at your job and how much you make . That banker wants to make money off of you and you want something from the banker,money. Pretty simple.

    Now let's go to Trump and the Trump companies, it's the same exact scenario only it has many more zeros involved. Trump and his company wanted to purchase more real estate, presented their assets and ability to pay it back based on his track record to a bank and they made the deal to loan him the money which he paid back including their interest, some 100 million. So what's wrong with all of this?

    The ignorant or very corrupt people snaked their way into a loophole saying Trump lied stating he was worth more than what the bank thought he was. Actually it was his accountants who presented the numbers to make the Trump companies look the very best they could. That's what all accountants do. So the Trump companies were supposedly worth 4 billion dollars according to his accountants for round numbers and Deutche bank loan officers said 2 billion. I suppose you could go to court to justify the numbers but nobody does that to get a loan. Duetche bank wants to make money on their product which is money they are lending but they also want to know what assets the Trump companies have and what is their track record in successful properties in the past. So banks look at it on the conservative side and slashed his numbers. Then it's determined to do a deal or not, is the interest rate ok or not, are the terms to pay the money back workable or not. They did the deal and that should be that.

    Unless you have powerful forces out there that do not want you to be president again so they twist the wording of what is ,is , and they create charges on you and your companies for an interpetation with a stacked deck so corrupt it would make grandma blush.

    Bankers and or wall street don't give their money away just because, they look at the company, their assets, their track record and their ability to pay back. On the flip side of that borrowing millions or billions is a big responsibility, so many peoples jobs and families depend on you and every loan is an important one. Your also banking on a successful project so everyone wins, but not everything is a guarantee either. So it takes some large size nuggets to go in and ask for quite a bit of money knowing so much rides on a a lot of hard work ahead. That is where whoever is asking for the money needs to sell the deal, project,and their track record to obtain the loan. This entire charge and fine stinks like a pig farm in 100 degree heat.

    about Enron. Enron was a ponzi scheme, it was corrupt, it was evil and it was greed beyond comprehensible levels, this group of people were buying up companies and sweeping retirement accounts so fast and so frequent the accounting paperwork couldn't keep up with the deals fast enough. And it was the employees of each company bought that lost their retirements. It was only that when they slowed down buying more additional companies did the house of cards crash because they were stealing the money faster than they could buy more companies.The CEO and the entire board should have been thrown in jail for life for what they did. Making this statement about President Trump and the comparison to enron is as ignorant as the charges brought against this man.

    Finally, you can say this or that about when Trump was in office, but when an American citizen is appointed to be president on his first day in office they have to appoint some 4000 people in jobs in the government. That's a very tall order knowing your going into the snake pit in d.c .known as the swamp. And that leaves a Pandora box open for criticism. With Trump having round one under his belt that is why the deep state is throwing everything they can at him because round 2 we be with seasoned players now.
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    I didn't write above just because, back in the 90s when I was in my 30,s I built a company to over 50 people on the payroll, I remember the day I signed for a million dollar line of credit, the paperwork that I signed was 1 inch thick. I remember my thoughts that day thinking well I'm all in baby, it's neither make it or not based on these numbers and zeros and there way no turning back now, I had those nuggets back then. I didn't have much assets behind me but I had momentum, faith, and was willing to work whatever hours it took. Being a bit vulnerable I needed a bit of luck to but I figured I got this far, this will be my last role of the dice. Calculated, and educated roll. It's what every business person does and there are no guarantees. Just like I said about Trump.

    Well 2 years later I got dealt a deck of cards the satanic moon must have been aligned upside down. 3 companies stuck me for 700k, I was getting a divorce, and had a family member sueing me.ALL at the same time. And no I did not make it , what took me 12 years to build took 1 year to crumble plus I spent an additional 2 years in court after costing me another 50k I didn't even have. And I won in court for only the judge to be paid off overturning my ruling. So I'm fully aware how corrupt the system can be.

    My mom asked me one time after all that happened, "don't you feel like a failure?". I told her instead of looking at me as a failure you should be proud of me taking a 100 dollar truck and turning in into 8 million in sales, i said how many people do you know that did that. I've employed about 1000 people in my lifetime. I never really recovered from that and I'll be 62 this year and I'm running out of time and energy. I have no more credit lines, only memories and what was and is not now which is very simple and I just make a living getting by. Would I do it all over again? Not at my age now, I can't take the stress and I don't want to either. Oh but what a ride it was.

    Just like I said about Trump and his companies, nothing is guaranteed, you have to perform with positive results and it does take some nuggets to ask for the big numbers. He took that job as president and donated all his salary to charity while he did it and this is his thanks, God bless him for what he's doing for all of us even those that don't know they don't even know. I pray for his safety everyday.

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    I highly disagree, remember WW ll , it was needed a guy that can do the job . Rough, not friendly , raw talking , but a 5 star general : Patton was the answer . the man for the job ! Now we face a war on humanity, family , decency, and individual freedom , to say the least D J Trump is the man to solve this. America first not china first .. Why is so difficult to see what's in front of your eyes? You might not like the person , and doesn't matter, that's your individual and free choice , but now is time to see the big picture and act accordingly!

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    That's a fear mongering statement, torally disagreeand make non sense economically speaking , I would say it sound like a leftist propaganda. Data kills narrative!

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    Why judge didn't Enron trumps stupid company? What kind of cow dung statement is that? And it's great that his company is fined over 300 million dollars?

    Let's start out with what it takes as a person who is in charge of a company that goes to borrow millions of dollars. It's the same scenario as buying your first house that is a deal involving a 6 digit figure. You go to the bank, present your assets and your ability to pay back the money. Your banker or mortgage company looks at what you have accumulated in assets and how stable you are in your job and your ability to pay it back based on how long you have worked at your job and how much you make . That banker wants to make money off of you and you want something from the banker,money. Pretty simple.

    Now let's go to Trump and the Trump companies, it's the same exact scenario only it has many more zeros involved. Trump and his company wanted to purchase more real estate, presented their assets and ability to pay it back based on his track record to a bank and they made the deal to loan him the money which he paid back including their interest, some 100 million. So what's wrong with all of this?

    The ignorant or very corrupt people snaked their way into a loophole saying Trump lied stating he was worth more than what the bank thought he was. Actually it was his accountants who presented the numbers to make the Trump companies look the very best they could. That's what all accountants do. So the Trump companies were supposedly worth 4 billion dollars according to his accountants for round numbers and Deutche bank loan officers said 2 billion. I suppose you could go to court to justify the numbers but nobody does that to get a loan. Duetche bank wants to make money on their product which is money they are lending but they also want to know what assets the Trump companies have and what is their track record in successful properties in the past. So banks look at it on the conservative side and slashed his numbers. Then it's determined to do a deal or not, is the interest rate ok or not, are the terms to pay the money back workable or not. They did the deal and that should be that.

    Unless you have powerful forces out there that do not want you to be president again so they twist the wording of what is ,is , and they create charges on you and your companies for an interpetation with a stacked deck so corrupt it would make grandma blush.

    Bankers and or wall street don't give their money away just because, they look at the company, their assets, their track record and their ability to pay back. On the flip side of that borrowing millions or billions is a big responsibility, so many peoples jobs and families depend on you and every loan is an important one. Your also banking on a successful project so everyone wins, but not everything is a guarantee either. So it takes some large size nuggets to go in and ask for quite a bit of money knowing so much rides on a a lot of hard work ahead. That is where whoever is asking for the money needs to sell the deal, project,and their track record to obtain the loan. This entire charge and fine stinks like a pig farm in 100 degree heat.

    about Enron. Enron was a ponzi scheme, it was corrupt, it was evil and it was greed beyond comprehensible levels, this group of people were buying up companies and sweeping retirement accounts so fast and so frequent the accounting paperwork couldn't keep up with the deals fast enough. And it was the employees of each company bought that lost their retirements. It was only that when they slowed down buying more additional companies did the house of cards crash because they were stealing the money faster than they could buy more companies.The CEO and the entire board should have been thrown in jail for life for what they did. Making this statement about President Trump and the comparison to enron is as ignorant as the charges brought against this man.

    Finally, you can say this or that about when Trump was in office, but when an American citizen is appointed to be president on his first day in office they have to appoint some 4000 people in jobs in the government. That's a very tall order knowing your going into the snake pit in d.c .known as the swamp. And that leaves a Pandora box open for criticism. With Trump having round one under his belt that is why the deep state is throwing everything they can at him because round 2 we be with seasoned players now.
    Trump was having trouble with justice department for decades already... you didn't know that? Go and search more about hundreds of court feelings from many different companies and persons...

    He was fake and con man always... He was laundering money for years... meantime, he was very good friend with Epstein and Madame Maxwell as his wife, Ivana and Melania... through three decades...
    I do not want to go into deep studies about Trump with you respectfully... I leave it there! If someone want to search all about trump & Co you can find very disturbing facts ...

    Trump was also having Ponzi scheme... Trump UNIVERSITY!!!! He was sued from hundreds of people!!!!

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    That's a fear mongering statement, torally disagreeand make non sense economically speaking , I would say it sound like a leftist propaganda. Data kills narrative!
    This tread is for TRUMP IS NOT THE ANSWER... DO NOT BOTHER HERE! THANK YOU!

    NOT TRUMP! NOT BIDEN!

    BTW... I wanted to add also here... Trump as president wasn't interested to pardon Julian Assange nor Snowden... in some alternative publication, it was out in open for Trump, to do that!!! Also he didn't expose murders of JFK nor RFK nor September 11... he promised in 2015 that...
    He is just another side of the same coin! He is a smelly, pretending con man... self lover and not honest human being! Nuff said....
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    Bunch of losers and pretenders... those Trump & Co...

    Trump ADULT KIDS Make FOOLS OF THEMSELVES on TV After VERDICT



    Grifters stays grifters! Yes, these ugly gold sneakers! Trump selling ugly stuff....

    NOT TRUMP! NOT BIDEN!

    Trump Gets MERCILESSLY BOOED at Philadelphia 'Sneaker Con'
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    Made it to the weekend... too much WINNING happening in Trump world... Ahhhhhhh


    WATCH Trump Get Laughed Out of an Entire Country



    TRUMP AND MAGA SCRAMBLE AFTER DISASTROUS WEEK | Alien Super Show (with Adam Conover!)


    NOT TRUMP! NOT BIDEN!
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    Agree with all it was said here!!!

    NOT TRUMP! NOT BIDEN!

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    Since there are those that wish to convict and condemn with constant videos and bring up everything a man did in his entire life except publishing his baby photos , do you remember during trumps campaign how everyone laughed at this man for a solid year while he was running for president, all of these million dollar so called news mouthpieces telling the public what we should think and my my how the narrative has changed. Then at trumps inauguration he repeated the phrases " law and order" several times and "giving power back to the states and the people". Those in charge who rely on the dependency of the public to keep their jobs in government were cringing.fyi 1.5 million Americans got off food stamps during trumps presidency.

    Being in the public eye most of your life has pluses and minuses. We watch those people in the spotlight evolve, mature and sometimes self destruct.ive often wondered why would a successful businessman with a close family and beautiful , successful and intelligent wife want to turn their world upside down by jumping in the snake pit of where ruining peoples careers are considered sport. Why? What about a white sandy island in the Caribbean instead.could it be that this man loves his country and has learned thru his lifetime and wants to give back. There's a video when he was on Oprah years ago with Trump and after listening to that his value system hasn't changed nor has the love for his country.

    Remember after Trump got in office , the first lady would not move in the white house for 6 months until the priests cleared this dwelling of all the evil left behind from the ones before.

    John F Kennedy wrote once " an error doesn't become a mistake unless you fail to correct it". president Trump isn't a choir boy and frankly going into the snake pit in d.c. if you were dropped into that environment out of the sky with another person would you want to be with a choir boy or a street smart individual? Who would you pick for your chances of making it out? I put my money on a man who has learned thru life of their mistakes and successes to make things happen and for this time, this moment in life it is trump.

    I was a campaign manager for an independent who ran for Congress 10 years ago, an 18 year old kid who was part of the team told me " if your waiting for a candidate that you agree with 100% of the time that candidate doesn't exist". I agree.

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    Thanks Pyrangello

    TRUMP IS THE ONLY ANSWER.

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    If you think even Trump's entire universe of legal bills adds up to $50 million.... especially for his kind of lawyers... without ever paying them.. you clearly don't recognize obvious embezzlement when you see it.. Rudolf said.. he would work for free... he he he.. not that he didn't have public knowledge, that Donald doesn't pay bills....
    The question is also, where is all that money being stashed... until the dust settles....

    Haha. it's a joke! Rudolf : "What is going on? I played a stupid game... I should at least get a stupid prize... instead, there's nothing? That's not how this works."

    Trump Insider Flips: "He Owes Me MILLIONS!!!"

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    The thought that Charlie is too racist for Trump and MAGA is laughable.....

    NOT BIDEN! NOT TRUMP!


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    TRUMP IS THE ONLY ANSWER.
    …. At this time among those ready, willing and able to do so (and be so (POTUS)) and with the experience of having been and done so before—to boot.

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    Why judge didn't Enron trumps stupid company? What kind of cow dung statement is that? And it's great that his company is fined over 300 million dollars?

    Let's start out with what it takes as a person who is in charge of a company that goes to borrow millions of dollars. It's the same scenario as buying your first house that is a deal involving a 6 digit figure. You go to the bank, present your assets and your ability to pay back the money. Your banker or mortgage company looks at what you have accumulated in assets and how stable you are in your job and your ability to pay it back based on how long you have worked at your job and how much you make . That banker wants to make money off of you and you want something from the banker,money. Pretty simple.

    Now let's go to Trump and the Trump companies, it's the same exact scenario only it has many more zeros involved. Trump and his company wanted to purchase more real estate, presented their assets and ability to pay it back based on his track record to a bank and they made the deal to loan him the money which he paid back including their interest, some 100 million. So what's wrong with all of this?

    The ignorant or very corrupt people snaked their way into a loophole saying Trump lied stating he was worth more than what the bank thought he was. Actually it was his accountants who presented the numbers to make the Trump companies look the very best they could. That's what all accountants do. So the Trump companies were supposedly worth 4 billion dollars according to his accountants for round numbers and Deutche bank loan officers said 2 billion. I suppose you could go to court to justify the numbers but nobody does that to get a loan. Duetche bank wants to make money on their product which is money they are lending but they also want to know what assets the Trump companies have and what is their track record in successful properties in the past. So banks look at it on the conservative side and slashed his numbers. Then it's determined to do a deal or not, is the interest rate ok or not, are the terms to pay the money back workable or not. They did the deal and that should be that.

    Unless you have powerful forces out there that do not want you to be president again so they twist the wording of what is ,is , and they create charges on you and your companies for an interpetation with a stacked deck so corrupt it would make grandma blush.

    Bankers and or wall street don't give their money away just because, they look at the company, their assets, their track record and their ability to pay back. On the flip side of that borrowing millions or billions is a big responsibility, so many peoples jobs and families depend on you and every loan is an important one. Your also banking on a successful project so everyone wins, but not everything is a guarantee either. So it takes some large size nuggets to go in and ask for quite a bit of money knowing so much rides on a a lot of hard work ahead. That is where whoever is asking for the money needs to sell the deal, project,and their track record to obtain the loan. This entire charge and fine stinks like a pig farm in 100 degree heat.

    about Enron. Enron was a ponzi scheme, it was corrupt, it was evil and it was greed beyond comprehensible levels, this group of people were buying up companies and sweeping retirement accounts so fast and so frequent the accounting paperwork couldn't keep up with the deals fast enough. And it was the employees of each company bought that lost their retirements. It was only that when they slowed down buying more additional companies did the house of cards crash because they were stealing the money faster than they could buy more companies.The CEO and the entire board should have been thrown in jail for life for what they did. Making this statement about President Trump and the comparison to enron is as ignorant as the charges brought against this man.

    Finally, you can say this or that about when Trump was in office, but when an American citizen is appointed to be president on his first day in office they have to appoint some 4000 people in jobs in the government. That's a very tall order knowing your going into the snake pit in d.c .known as the swamp. And that leaves a Pandora box open for criticism. With Trump having round one under his belt that is why the deep state is throwing everything they can at him because round 2 we be with seasoned players now.
    This is a fine analysis...and spot on. But the facts at hand are so elementary, it boggles the mind that any average-minded thinking person would require such an explanation. I'm literally dumbfounded by any commentary or suggestion that the Trump organization did anything wrong procuring these loans. If I wasn't aware of how utterly corrupted the judicial system is--and how real TDS is--I would honestly take this entire circus as some big joke, where, in the end, we discover we're all being punked.

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    This is really satire of Trump... Just loo at his crazy eyes... Let's be absolutely, you can tell how Trump is lying... when his lips are moving... and HE compare himself to Navalny?? OMG!!!
    This man is really crazy!!! Disgusting!


    NOT TRUMP!!!! NOT BIDEN!!!

    Friendly Trump town hall on Fox News goes bad QUICK

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    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    This is really satire of Trump... Just loo at his crazy eyes... Let's be absolutely, you can tell how Trump is lying... when his lips are moving... and HE compare himself to Navalny?? OMG!!!
    This man is really crazy!!! Disgusting!


    NOT TRUMP!!!! NOT BIDEN!!!

    Friendly Trump town hall on Fox News goes bad QUICK
    At the 2:30 mark: The FBI didn't want to do the raid -- Record scratch stop here. Wh-what?

    Of course the FBI wanted to do the raid. That's why they did it. What planet do you think we're all breathing air on? Why else would the FBI raid Mara Lago? In the interest of justice? Are some of us really biting on that?

    What I see here is, in these back-and-forth discussions, is entirely opposite paradigms of understanding reality. bojacan, you and others are perceiving the world around you through an entirely different lens from those of us get the absurdity of this entire psyop. Let's start with one of the basics. One who assumes the FBI is any agency of blind justice is utterly deluded. While navigating a small-town bank robbery case or a lone-wolf money laundry scheme, maybe. But exerting justice via a political agenda, no. Absolutely no. The FBI is an agency with an agenda and at the highest level has a clear objective. And that objective aligns 100% with planned takedown of the United States of the Sovereign States of America and the rise of an Authoritarian New World Order. Period. I don't claim to know how or why this came to be -- but there is no question it is.

    In this context the modus operandi of the FBI, with all their power and authority, is to disqualify any political aspirant bold enough to stir his/her constituiency with silly, nationalist American ideals that exempts, warns, or attempts to shield its people from the WEF program in store for the sleeping masses. This includes by all means necessary, including political assassination, lawfare and unjust prosecution--and ultimately, by phsycial assassination.

    Why is this so difficult to understand?

    I get you hate Trump. I don't claim to understand why, but I do get the psychological impact of your conditioning. All said, can't you see what's going on here? It's a very large elephant in the room.
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    Some folks have a 1 degree focus on something the size of a bullet hole and a 359 degree blind spot.

    Some folks have a 359 degree focus and a blind spot the size of a bullet hole.

    And, we're all supposed to cuddle up and sing kumbaya. Kinda scary, isn't it.
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    I do not like, respect or admire Trump... never was! Nor Biden!I love to have fun with this con man and grifter... as fun with Biden... those two man will be removed in 2024... for sure! I do not see them nowhere.. I know, for some of you Trumpsters... will be so sad situation!

    NOT BIDEN!!!! NOT TRUMP!!!!

    Trump Debuts New Cologne and Sneakers & Nikki Haley Won't Drop Out | The Daily Show



    Yes, he was criminal and fraud and con all his life!!!

    Trump Fined $350 Million, Can't do Business for 3 Years, & is Selling Shoes | Criminal Lawyer Reacts

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