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    Please do not demonise sharks.. even if it's supposed to be a joke.

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    Default Re: 9ft great white shark eaten by huge mystery 'sea monster'

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    Please do not demonise sharks.. even if it's supposed to be a joke.
    Why do you like them? Thry eat people and hunt us from miles away from a drop of blood, unless you are planning a tea party with one, invite yourself though.
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    Thanks Pan real good watch.......
    G'day Bloke, No worries. Not a bad yarn that one is it.

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    Please do not demonise sharks.. even if it's supposed to be a joke.
    I don't think anyone was demonising sharks in this thread.

    They are an apex predator and while awe inspiring not really a threat to humans. On the other hand humans kill millions of them every year in some of the most horrendous ways possible. My personal revulsion at the common practice of shark "finning" can not really be over stated. The closest comparison for humans would be cutting someones legs and arms off and leaving the person in the bush to die from a combination of blood loss, predation and exposure. So no, I don't demonise sharks.

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    Why do you like them? They eat people and hunt us from miles away from a drop of blood, unless you are planning a tea party with one, invite yourself though.
    I would invite myself if I was having a tea party... Otherwise, why would I have a tea party?

    There again, I reckon that I might not have many guests if all I did was invite sharks because I don't live under the ocean. So, it would be rather rude to invite a shark to a tea party unless I was planning an underwater tea party something like this:


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    Really, more humans die each year from dog bites, cows crushing or those vicious attack Christmas trees than sharks... Sharks are curious critters and if someone goes into their territory (that's the ocean) then one might well investigate. Part of their investigation sometimes involves a taste test. I did come across an interesting statistic in my travels a few years back though. Between 1959 and 2010 in the Coastal United States 26 people died from shark attacks and 1,970 died from lightening strike... That's right, more than 75 times more likely to be hit by lightening. Statistics available here.

    So, 10 human's (on average) die from shark bites each year while between 20 and 30 million sharks are killed by humans (these statistics are debated with human fatalities varying between 4 & 15 per year depending on definitions of provoked and unprovoked and associated figures while shark fatalities have been referenced as being as many as 100 million per year). There are many more dangerous things to human's than sharks, just sharks look so much more dangerous than a vending machine (interesting article on the statistics behind the difference at freakonomics here)... Anyways...

    That having been said, sharks need to be respected in their environment (the ocean). For example the Oceanic Whitetip Shark has been known to eat ship wreck survivors because they are attracted to the flailing arms/legs and the Silky Shark can get overly curious of divers. The ocean is a place of beauty but it isn't a place without dangers. It isn't the natural environment for a human and I reckon we should always be respectful of it and its occupants.

    Valerie Taylor wrote an interesting article on some of the myths associated with sharks here and Google can help anyone who might be interested in finding out more.

    I hope this was useful to someone.

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    Short article from Aunty on a shark bite & release off the California coast.

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    Great white attacks swimmer while being reeled in by fisherman off Manhattan Beach in California
    AFP 6th July 2014

    A great white shark has attacked a long-distance swimmer as it was being reeled in by a fisherman in California.

    The 2.13-metre [7 foot] shark bit the swimmer around 9:30am on Saturday off Manhattan Beach, the Los Angeles County Fire Department (LACFD) said on Twitter.

    The angler was fishing off the Manhattan Beach pier and had been struggling with the hooked shark for about 40 minutes when the fish bit the swimmer.

    "Shark was hooked to fishermans [sic] line, long distance swimmer got close, was bit while shark was biting through fishing line," the LACFD tweeted.

    The beach was closed for 1.6 kilometres north and south of the pier.

    Paramedics took the victim to a local hospital to treat the moderate injuries.

    The swimmer is listed as being in "stable" condition in hospital.

    LACFD Inspector Rick Flores said the apex predator was tired and angry when it took an aim at its victim.

    "Being that the shark was agitated, it bit," Inspector Flores told KPCC radio.

    "Basically, a bite and release of the upper right torso of one of the swimmers."

    Local media reports quoted Inspector Flores as saying the shark remained in the area for the next 20 minutes before disappearing into the murky water.

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    Default Re: 9ft great white shark eaten by huge mystery 'sea monster'

    that reminds me,

    I was in a box store a few months back,and a song came on the 'zombie muzak' sound system, so we could 'shop' via it's hypnotic undercurrent.

    it was this:



    And some dark black humour part of my mind whispered...'shark week'

    As in 'shark week theme song.'

    Sorry 'bout that. Felt like sharing.
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    Default Re: 9ft great white shark eaten by huge mystery 'sea monster'

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    Quote Posted by take (here)
    Please do not demonise sharks.. even if it's supposed to be a joke.
    Why do you like them? Thry eat people and hunt us from miles away from a drop of blood, unless you are planning a tea party with one, invite yourself though.

    No.

    They have adapted to be able to smell blood in water from long distances, that is how they hunt prey.

    They do not specifically hunt humans. They are not really our predator's either because we do not live in the ocean, we swim in it and also gather food, mine for oil, sail boats etc.

    If you go swimming in waters that are known to have sharks in them, if you want to get eaten do so whilst you have blood on yourself or are bleeding somehow. Or go out on a surf board/floatie so you look like one of their common prey - a seal or big fish.

    Statistically you have more chance of being killed by a COW. yes a Cow.... Or a Mosquito carrying nasties than you do by a shark.

    Don't be hating on shark's for no good reasons now....



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    A Great White seen thrashing about off a beach near Geraldton was later found dead.


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    Great white shark probably choked to death on sea lion, authorities say
    By Sarah Taillier, 17th July 2014



    A great white shark that washed ashore in Western Australia may have choked on a sea lion, an investigation into the animal's death has found.

    Earlier this week the shark, which was about four metres long, was seen thrashing in shallow waters at Coronation Beach, north of Geraldton.

    Its carcass, which had been fitted with an acoustic tag, washed up on the same beach on Tuesday.

    The Department of Fisheries says research scientists have found the shark had no visible signs of injury or disease, but had a large Australian sea lion stuck inside its throat.

    The department's principal research scientist Dr Rory McAuley said the shark may have been thrashing around in waters trying to dislodge the blockage.

    "This could explain why the shark was exhibiting such unusual behaviour in shallow waters off Coronation Beach," he said in a statement.

    "Such a large object may have damaged the shark's internal organs or impeded water flow into his gills, contributing to his death.

    "Alternatively, the shark may have accidentally become stranded in his attempts to get rid of the obstruction."

    The department has also confirmed that the shark was tagged in South Australia in January this year.

    Dr McAuley says tissue and vertebral samples were taken for future genetic, age and growth, ecological and population assessment studies.

    "This information will be useful in improving our understanding about white sharks," he said.

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    After working with sharks (Great Whites, Tigers & Galapagos) I would guess the story you posted was a REALLY BIG dolphin aka Orca



    generally speaking they have been seen by colleagues eating the liver which is really high in oils.

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    Quote Posted by RMF808 (here)
    After working with sharks (Great Whites, Tigers & Galapagos) I would guess the story you posted was a REALLY BIG dolphin aka Orca



    generally speaking they have been seen by colleagues eating the liver which is really high in oils.
    I don't think so.
    This story is more than the one line of text.
    The shark had a sophisticated tracking device that tracked temperature and depth.

    This shark was right off the coast when something swallowed the shark whole.
    They Saw a drastic rise in temperature and then an extreme depth plunge.
    Whatever ate the shark went to extreme depths.
    Whatever ate the shark pooped it out...
    The tracking device floated to the surface and was located and data was downloaded from it.

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    Quote Posted by RMF808 (here)
    After working with sharks (Great Whites, Tigers & Galapagos) I would guess the story you posted was a REALLY BIG dolphin aka Orca



    generally speaking they have been seen by colleagues eating the liver which is really high in oils.
    I don't think so.
    This story is more than the one line of text.
    The shark had a sophisticated tracking device that tracked temperature and depth.

    This shark was right off the coast when something swallowed the shark whole.
    They Saw a drastic rise in temperature and then an extreme depth plunge.
    Whatever ate the shark went to extreme depths.
    Whatever ate the shark pooped it out...
    The tracking device floated to the surface and was located and data was downloaded from it.
    I tagged sharks myself and we put them right next to the liver. I know how to read that data. A warm temperature means that the animal that consumed it was warm blooded. You can even tell when a shark goes from eating cold blooded fish at a smaller side and then starts eating warm blooded animals like seals, dolphin & whales (warm blooded).

    I feel like I missed the part about the shark being eaten whole but a 9 foot great white is small. The top ocean predator is the Orca (Orcinus orca) and I’m sure they get bigger than our research shows. What has been documented by fellow researchers is orcas eating the liver then the shark corpse no longer floats [the liver controls the buoyancy]. They sink to the bottom and many creatures like hagfish and other sharks finish up the meal.

    Often times those tags are designed to float & wash ashore. We set 160 listening devices around Hawai’i and would collect the data once per month.

    Have you ever seen a shark in person or an orca? Have you looked into any of the research about how deep they dive?

    You sound very sure of your answer but it sounds like you prefer science fiction rather than science fact.

    Good luck to you on your journey

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    Didn't mean to offend you RN.
    I never knew sharks sank after losing their livers. That was very well written. Thank you

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    No offense but assured ignorance wastes time. The internet is there for research but hands on experience goes much further in improving human understanding for the betterment of all.

    Those were real questions, not trying to come across rude or offended. Have you seen these animals?
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    Default Re: 9ft great white shark eaten by huge mystery 'sea monster'

    Look I'm well aware killer whales eat the livers of great whites.
    But from what I understand the tracking device was taken almost 2000 feet into the ocean and was said to be inside of a digestive system that stayed at that depth for days.
    Now understand I've never swam with nor frolicked with killer whales and or great whites...
    But I'm guessing something staying at that kind of depth for days at a time would rule out the air breathing killer whale.

    Quote Scientists have been left baffled after a nine-foot great white shark appears to have
    been eaten by a much larger animal.

    Researcher in Australia tagged the shark as part of a study, but it washed up dead
    on a beach four kilometres away two months later.

    After checking the information on the tracking device, they found the shark had
    suddenly plunged to 1,900 feet deep into the ocean.

    Soon after, the tag saw a rapid temperature rise, the kind you may find inside a
    digestive system.

    The tag stayed at that depth and temperature for a number of days, before it
    surfaced and washed up on shore.

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