Worm Tongue

[GoldenYears]

Posted by Lee-B (here)

Posted by Celine (here)

Posted by Lee-B (here)
Gosh, and here was everyone thinking GW was the drama queen. One thing I will say for GW is she has integrity. A shame she cannot be here to defend herself (but you'd be surprised who has her back) It's not over by a long shot.

Yes Bill has her back...

No surpirse there...since she is allowed to threaten Avalon...its security team..and its members...

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Posted by Ahkenaten (here)
Celine shouldn't Bill be able to protect his own integrity if any questions arose? Sorry you have felt in such a conflict, i.e. that you must chose somehow between yourself and someone else. No one should be put in that position, it is surely a "No Win."

Absolutly i should have NEVER tried to protect anyones honor...but my own.

lesson learned

Nonsense. If anyone is feeling threatened it's GW. She has been compromised and feels the safety of both her son and herself is at stake. Not a nice position for anyone to be in.
I'm not going to go back and forth with you Celine, I know your modus operandi from personal experience. Stop playing the victim, and look at the bigger picture.

Gee, have you talked to any of the people that GW threatened??? Integrity my butt!

[Lifesong]

Posted by Lee-B (here)
Nonsense. If anyone is feeling threatened it's GW. She has been compromised and feels the safety of both her son and herself is at stake. Not a nice position for anyone to be in.

Got to throw the bullsh!t flag on that one.

Nobody's out to get GW. Self-inflated, self-important paranoia.

Who starts a thread about themself to put other posters down? Who does that?


Just my opinion, of course.

[Lord Sidious]

Ok, I have no idea what is going on here and I am not sure that I want to know.
I would like to know if I can help heal this so that a) we don't bleed more members and b) everyone feels that they can let go of it.

[An Cailleach]

These attacks/accusations are specific to the people involved.

IMHO it is the 'specifics', all added together, that further agendas.

Peace to all at Avalon and its past members.

[Celine]

Posted by Lee-B (here)

Posted by Celine (here)

Posted by Lee-B (here)
Gosh, and here was everyone thinking GW was the drama queen. One thing I will say for GW is she has integrity. A shame she cannot be here to defend herself (but you'd be surprised who has her back) It's not over by a long shot.

Yes Bill has her back...

No surpirse there...since she is allowed to threaten Avalon...its security team..and its members...

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Posted by Ahkenaten (here)
Celine shouldn't Bill be able to protect his own integrity if any questions arose? Sorry you have felt in such a conflict, i.e. that you must chose somehow between yourself and someone else. No one should be put in that position, it is surely a "No Win."

Absolutly i should have NEVER tried to protect anyones honor...but my own.

lesson learned

Nonsense. If anyone is feeling threatened it's GW. She has been compromised and feels the safety of both her son and herself is at stake. Not a nice position for anyone to be in.
I'm not going to go back and forth with you Celine, I know your modus operandi from personal experience. Stop playing the victim, and look at the bigger picture.

I dont play victim.. re read my posts i am DONE playing.

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I started a thread... on the avdice of a friend...

To state that i will no longer be anyones patsy...


I am sure that is clear from my statements.

[DevilPigeon]

i'm still lost.....

it seems that some posts from the 'fess up to throwin a paddy' thread have been deleted/made unavailable for some reason, and that GW is no longer a subscriber.... that's all i know.

[Whitehaze]

Posted by Lifesong (here)

Posted by Lee-B (here)
Nonsense. If anyone is feeling threatened it's GW. She has been compromised and feels the safety of both her son and herself is at stake. Not a nice position for anyone to be in.

Got to throw the bullsh!t flag on that one.

Nobody's out to get GW. Self-inflated, self-important paranoia.

Who starts a thread about themself to put other posters down? Who does that?


Just my opinion, of course.

I have to agree with this statement. If people do not wish to be attacked on a forum, then they should consider how they present their ideas and themselves. If you present it in a provacative manner, then you will draw that sort of response. If your replies and comments are laced with barbs, then surely that is what you will get back.

Project things in a positive manner, and the responses will be of the same. Laws of attraction.

[slvrfx]

Question-

Does GW go by any other names?

Seems like there was another person a few weeks ago who felt her and her son were at 'risk', which was absolutely not the case.

She was putting her own twist to things, to justify her open criticism of someone she was arguing with.

[Lee-B]

Like you have your voice (and followers) here. GW will find her voice elsewhere.

To anyone not privy to the PM received by the 14 on here (and others by email, actually)
Ask yourself this. Why would Bill have GW's back?
I mean, when it comes down to it, you're all here because of Bill right, not the moderating team and their spouses.
That's my final word on this, I'm not going to get into a slanging match with "interested" parties.
End of.

[Celine]

Alll here cuz of Bill?

Hmm..

Bill DOES NOT act the same on forum as he does in private.... just like most of us.

[GoldenYears]

Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
i'm still lost.....

it seems that some posts from the 'fess up to throwin a paddy' thread have been deleted/made unavailable for some reason, and that GW is no longer a subscriber.... that's all i know.

Yeah, its one of those "had to be there" things. Certain posts were removed because it got kind of heated. I watched in the background as it happened. GW said herself to Richard, to paraphrase...if you dont like what Im saying, then push the button. So he did. End of story.

[Celine]

Yes she has challenged him more then once.

Richard has the patience of Jobe.

He has worked 40+ hours here a week (like most mods) for almost 2 years...

Is his investement worth anything?

Richard deserved none of her attacks...

i may have...thru my own stupidity...called it on myself but richard DOES NOT DESERVE THIS

[greybeard]

Respectfully
If there was is an attempt to bring down discredit Avalon you can not lay that at Celine's door or Richards.
I have was PMd by GW I cant go in to it but I was taken aback by the attack on Celine Bill and Charles.

PA functioned extremely well up till 1st of Jan so if anyone wants to seek the root of the current problems search for it after that date.

Respectfully Chris

[chelmostef]

Posted by Celine (here)
I dont play victim.. re read my posts i am DONE playing.
I started a thread... on the avdice of a friend...

To state that i will no longer be anyones patsy...


I am sure that is clear from my statements.

Its quite clear whats happening here. Don't play the game. Do not get sucked in. Avalon was destroyed last time, its not the agents that do it its us. We make this happen by participation. Keep strong Celine you have done the right thing. No more cloak and daggers, lets blow out all the bad energy and vibrations. I felt when I logged on. Let us clear this energy Now.

I do not know the whole story but I could see it unfolding. You can just sense and know this is happening. No more Cloak and daggers.

I for one fully support you Celine. Let us clear this bad air with laughter and joy, let us turn it around into a positive.

Let's cure the worm tongue.

I love you Celine and all of Avalon

[Fred Steeves]

Why is this dirty laundry being aired in public? Many reading this, including me, don't even know what this crisis is about. Seems to me this should be hashed out by just the people involved, if not then the people involved should be invited here to air their side of this foggy story too.

Cheers,
Fred S.

[Lee-B]

Posted by Celine (here)
Alll here cuz of Bill?

Hmm..

Bill DOES NOT act the same on forum as he does in private.... just like most of us.

Which is something people should be aware of, especially if they are not keen on people who flatter to deceive, and are somewhat duplicitous, whether they are aware of it or not.

[Gone002]

Pah the lot of it. I thought we had all put this stuff behind us.

[slvrfx]

Posted by Celine (here)

Bill, broke his word to me.

This is the BIG DEAL for Celine. I don't have to know details.

And I trust that she knows her own feelings about being betrayed.

She's the only one who knows the entire story, so I appeal to all of you readers to at least respect that this is the way she feels.

As for me, I take the stance with Bill, or with anyone else, that unless they do something to me personally, I can't judge.

But I repeat, RESPECT HER, she knows what's happened to her personally.

[Celine]

Fred..

Private messaging is what causes the issue...

I apologize if this...coming to terms....is not fitted for Avalon..

But i had little choice...

The only other thing i have to offer... is #Round-Table ...a chat room...that is used to meet all at the same level and discuss issues or hash out problems..

I invite any involved to sit at the table...

and from my heart...i hope you do.

[passenger1147]

threads like this, to me, harm Avalon ...... waaaaaay too much drama on this site.