Worm Tongue

[Lifesong]

It takes quite an ego to publicly present on an internet forum a psuedo-psychoanalysis of a person you've never met.

No authentic person I can think of would stand up and claim to be the only authentic person in town.

Fail.

Just my considered opinion.

[johnf]

<------- Envisions a giant calming hand hovering over our Island in the mists.
Giant currents of calming energy flowing out and down.
They permeate the minds ,bodies and hearts, of all in Avalon, and their minds turn effortlessly back to their original
purpose for coming here. And they all go back to their own concerns.

I got a bit alarmed by the kerfuffles going on in chat last night and to an extent this thread, but I don't really need to know what it is about.
None O my Bidness, there are too many other cool meetings of minds and hearts going on in here, it is my dooty to focus back on those.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by richard (here)

Posted by lee-b (here)

Posted by celine (here)

Posted by lee-b (here)

Posted by celine (here)
alll here cuz of bill?

Hmm..

Bill does not act the same on forum as he does in private.... Just like most of us.

which is something people should be aware of, especially if they are not keen on people who flatter to deceive, and are somewhat duplicitous, whether they are aware of it or not.

yes you were very different lee-b when you came to me with info you got from another member...and juts had to tell me...you were so concerned...remember?

I immedietly sent you to speak to richard becuase i sensed bs

now you're getting a little too provocative for my tastes. I am no different, what you see is what you get. I'm not bi-polar.
Yes, i came to you because i thought i could trust you, based on other peoples interactions with you. I'm not going to go into private conversations on here. It is worth noting how i ceased all communication with yourself and richard on that matter when *i* sensed bs.

And just for the record, things have moved on since then. I have been nothing but honest and transparent. I felt extremely guilty for confiding in you, knowing it was a huge error of judgement.
So much so, that i told the ex moderator concerned, exactly what i had divulged to yourself and richard.

He was fine with that, and appreciated my honesty. And knowing full well that i put the cat amongst the pigeons.

your lucky your on the other side of the atlantic you f*cking coward.
In person i would rip your head off and sh*t down your neck for that.

Crawl back to your hole now little coward behind the screen

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hawkwind]

Posted by Richard (here)
Your lucky your on the other side of the Atlantic you f*cking coward.
In person I would rip your head off and sh*t down your neck for that.

Crawl back to your hole now little coward behind the screen

Umm, just wondering- what would your reaction as a moderator be to anyone else on this forum who posted something like this?

[Celine]

Posted by Ahkenaten (here)

Posted by Celine (here)
The "game" in the alternative media industry is to create as much contraversy as you can...and make stars out of the "jouranlists" rather then making Truth the star.

everyone in the alternative media industry is hungry for their Holy grail..........

Sound familiar??

¤=[Post Update]=¤

i have admited to my sins...

do you think...some..reading this thread will to?

But Celine if the game in alternative media is to create controversy (translated into web traffic) then - how do we avoid playing into that while at the same time honorably addressing any issues that have arisen? I wonder if this - yet another thread heating people up, dividing people up into groups "for and against" issues/people, is the way to go? Isn't this playing into the dialectic that is always used to smash and destroy human networks? Again, I respectfully suggest that nothing positive will be gained by people expounding on this thread........ONLY NEGATIVE WILL COME OF IT. We should put our heads together and figure out a way to avoid these kinds of tar-baby traps so we are not collectively victimized by them any more. THAT would be a productive use of our time and the phenomenal energy here.

You are correct... but i felt i had no choice...

i sit watching my friends... the mods..be treated with such utter disrespect... my jaw hits the table a half dozen times a day.

All i had left was to push it out in the light

EGO HATES TO BE IN THE LIGHT


shine on avalon...

[Icecold]

Posted by Lee-B (here)
Like you have your voice (and followers) here. GW will find her voice elsewhere.

To anyone not privy to the PM received by the 14 on here (and others by email, actually)
Ask yourself this. Why would Bill have GW's back?
I mean, when it comes down to it, you're all here because of Bill right, not the moderating team and their spouses.
That's my final word on this, I'm not going to get into a slanging match with "interested" parties.
End of.

Oh you already have got into a slanging match....which makes your statement a joke.

If I were you pal, I'd sit back and STFU.

[SKAWF]

celine i apologise if this isnt strictly on topic, but i reckon we are actually being manipulated.
no one has the right to make you engage with them on their level.

an analogy.

you're sat on you sofa feeling good, and someone says something horrible.
what do you do?

what if the sole aim was to make you feel bad.
if you break from your own posture, and lower yourself to engage with it, you lose.
ultimately the nasty person doesnt win, but you still lose.
its about breaking someones will, on a minor level. by means of distraction.
when you are focused on something of your own aims, you are powerful.
and when you put one foot in front of the other, you move foward towards completion.

if you can be distracted from your point of focus
and you can be removed from your position of power,
and more importantly,led away from the path you were originally on.........
thats how we've ALL been f*cked over, right from day 1.
once you know how the trick works, you wont be fooled by it again.

this is why i apologised earlier.....

If

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!

probably the only piece of poetry that moves me.
steve

[Celine]

Posted by Hawkwind (here)

Posted by Richard (here)
Your lucky your on the other side of the Atlantic you f*cking coward.
In person I would rip your head off and sh*t down your neck for that.

Crawl back to your hole now little coward behind the screen

Umm, just wondering- what would your reaction as a moderator be to anyone else on this forum who posted something like this?

He has been prevented to act like a husband for quite some time here...
a

and he has spenmt the last two days watching his wife get treated with disrespect...

let alone what he has watched happen to his friends...

[GoldenYears]

Posted by Hawkwind (here)

Posted by Richard (here)
Your lucky your on the other side of the Atlantic you f*cking coward.
In person I would rip your head off and sh*t down your neck for that.

Crawl back to your hole now little coward behind the screen

Umm, just wondering- what would your reaction as a moderator be to anyone else on this forum who posted something like this?

I say we let Richard slide with this one...the guy insulted his wife....

[greybeard]

88 members 48 guests watching this thread.
well 87 Im off for a while.
It might be a good idea if we all turned on the TV for once.
ch

[meeradas]

i can't take this here.
This feels heavier & more negative than the last two weeks in my 'professional' life (and these were filled to the brim with darkness that i had to deal with, on my own, unbacked).
Am taking at least a week off of Avalon - and when i return, i will not stumble into sth like this here, anymore. This has lost all 'recreative' aspects it had for me.
Thanks for the lesson, folks.
Peace

[chelmostef]

You know what we need to fix this and the only way is to not fight each other... WE are being played, The whole point is to take us down... And the bit they laugh at most is we do it.

[Celine]

And Lee-B was playing us... so its kinda hard to hold back when he sits here actiing all righteous.

[yiolas]

All I can add is that the world is going to hell in hand basket as we speak !
I think we all have better things to do. Life is going to get a lot harder than this he said she stuff. Cut it out and lets get back to work !

[chelmostef]

We need to keep in mind the target is avalon with us pulling it down. We need to sit back calm ourselves. And think logically how we can fix this... Fighting only takes us closer to the end game.

[Hawkwind]

Posted by Celine (here)
Umm, just wondering- what would your reaction as a moderator be to anyone else on this forum who posted something like this?

He has been prevented to act like a husband for quite some time here...
a

and he has spenmt the last two days watching his wife get treated with disrespect...

let alone what he has watched happen to his friends...[/QUOTE]

I understand and very much appreciate how devoted you and Richard obviously are to each other, but my first allegiance is to the health of this community. Mods- request this thread be closed. Everyone- request a deep breath and time to center.

[Lord Sidious]

Absolutely 1000% shameless theft of anothers post.

Posted by sister (here)
The Installation of Love!
Installing Love on the Human Computer…

Tech Support: Yes, how can I help you?

Customer: Well, after much consideration, I’ve decided to install Love. Can you guide me through the process?

Tech Support: Yes. I can help you. Are you ready to proceed?

Customer: Well, I’m not very technical, but I think I’m ready. What do I do first?

Tech Support: The first step is to open your Heart. Have you located your Heart?

Customer: Yes, but there are several other programs running now. Is it okay to install Love while they are running?

Tech Support: What programs are running ?

Customer: Let’s see, I have Past Hurt, Low Self-Esteem, Grudge and Resentment running right now.

Tech Support: No problem, Love will gradually erase Past Hurt from your current operating system. It may remain in your permanent memory but it will no longer disrupt other programs. Love will eventually override Low Self-Esteem with a module of its own called High Self-Esteem. However,you have to completely turn off Grudge and Resentment. Those programs prevent Love from being properly installed. Can you turn those off ?

Customer: I don’t know how to turn them off. Can you tell me how?

Tech Support: With pleasure. Go to your start menu and invoke Forgiveness. Do this as many times as necessary until Grudge and Resentment have been completely erased.

Customer: Okay, done! Love has started installing itself. Is that normal?

Tech Support: Yes, but remember that you have only the base program. You need to begin connecting to other Hearts in order to get the upgrades.

Customer: Oops! I have an error message already. It says, “Error - Program not run on external components.” What should I do?

Tech Support: Don’t worry. It means that the Love program is set up to run on Internal Hearts, but has not yet been run on your Heart. In non-technical terms, it simply means you have to Love yourself before you can Love others.

Customer: So, what should I do?

Tech Support: Pull down Self-Acceptance; then click on the following files: Forgive-Self; Realize Your Worth; and Acknowledge your Limitations.

Customer: Okay, done.

Tech Support: Now, copy them to the “My Heart” directory. The system will overwrite any conflicting files and begin patching faulty programming.
Also, you need to delete Verbose Self-Criticism from all directories and empty your Recycle Bin to make sure it is completely gone and never comes back.

Customer: Got it. Hey! My heart is filling up with new files.Smile is playing on my monitor and Peace and Contentment are copying themselves all over My Heart. Is this normal?

Tech Support: Sometimes. For others it takes awhile, but eventually everything gets it at the proper time. So Love is installed and running.
One more thing before we hang up. Love is Freeware. Be sure to give it and its various modules to everyone you meet. They will in turn share it with others and return some cool modules back to you.

Customer: Thank you, God.

God/Tech Support: You’re Welcome, Anytime.

- Anon

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post161014

Sounds good to me.

[Whitehaze]

Now that everyone has vented their frustrations and everyone knows how each other feels, how would a true Avalonian deal with it all?

Do you burn the bridges?
Will you stay divided?
Will you allow your power to be stolen from yourselves?
Can you find the strength and courage to get past this?
We can talk the talk, but can we walk it?

If you believe in something, then you should live it like you mean it. I dare you to.

[Mike]

Posted by Richard (here)

Posted by Lee-B (here)

Posted by Celine (here)

Posted by Lee-B (here)

Posted by Celine (here)
Alll here cuz of Bill?

Hmm..

Bill DOES NOT act the same on forum as he does in private.... just like most of us.

Which is something people should be aware of, especially if they are not keen on people who flatter to deceive, and are somewhat duplicitous, whether they are aware of it or not.

Yes you were very different Lee-B when you came to me with info you got from another member...and juts HAD to tell me...you were so concerned...remember?

I immedietly sent you to speak to richard becuase i sensed BS

Now you're getting a little too provocative for my tastes. I am no different, what you see is what you get. I'm not bi-polar.
Yes, I came to you because I thought I could trust you, based on other peoples interactions with you. I'm not going to go into PRIVATE conversations on here. It is worth noting how I ceased all communication with yourself and Richard on that matter when *I* sensed BS.

And just for the record, things have moved on since then. I have been nothing but honest and transparent. I felt extremely guilty for confiding in you, knowing it was a huge error of judgement.
So much so, that I told the EX MODERATOR concerned, exactly what I had divulged to yourself and Richard.

He was fine with that, and appreciated my honesty. And knowing full well that I put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Your lucky your on the other side of the Atlantic you f*cking coward.
In person I would rip your head off and sh*t down your neck for that.

Crawl back to your hole now little coward behind the screen

i'm pretty sure there are rules against this somewhere on this forum...wait...i'm looking...bear with me....ok, i found it! here it is: "no Avalonian shall rip the head off another Avalonian and sh#t down their neck. it is not consistent with the spirit of Avalon..." and on and on it goes. you get the point.

but i don't see anything against ripping arms off and pi##ing into the shoulder holes though..oh wait..no..i take it back....i found something...here it is: "no Avalonian shall rip the shoulder off another Avalonian and..." and on and on it goes.

sorry Richard. you're going to have to take the sane approach here.

[silentghost80]

Posted by Hawkwind (here)
I understand and very much appreciate how devoted you and Richard obviously are to each other, but my first allegiance is to the health of this community. Mods- request this thread be closed. Everyone- request a deep breath and time to center.

I request this thread stays open