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    I thought this was a very interesting take by Tucker Carlson. He brings up some good points especially when he says the government was dealing with bad ones and what does that tell you about the Government? So interesting that many of us on the forum have said there were good and bad ET's. Putting a spiritual tag on them is IMO a big step in explaining them.


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    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    I thought this was a very interesting take by Tucker Carlson. He brings up some good points especially when he says the government was dealing with bad ones and what does that tell you about the Government? So interesting that many of us on the forum have said there were good and bad ET's. Putting a spiritual tag on them is IMO a big step in explaining them.

    Yep some are defo spiritual/energy.

    Check this video out, if this isnt a form of Intelligent non human identity, ill eat my hat, and anyone else wearing a hat ill eat theirs too, and if those not wearing one can go get one and ill eat theirs also.



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    This second vid is better than the first, this ufo is filmed goin into the lake then coming back out.



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    Wow! I am amazed that Tucker and Joe are discussing this aspect of ETs. I think that this sort of discussion by these two guys goes a lot further in waking people up to the truth than the controlled "UAP" hearings in Congress.

    I can confirm from my own experiences that indeed ETs are spiritual beings just as we are but their spiritual/psychic abilities have not been suppressed like Earth-bound, manipulated humans have been for thousands of years. The short abducting Grays have been referred to as "biologic robots" but I disagree. Perhaps some of them are but clearly some of them are not. Read the chapter "The Attic" in THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET (link below) and you can see that short Grays are even involved with programming children with false religious beliefs. In one horrible abduction I killed a small Gray and watched it die when I was just inches away from its face. I sensed that it was a spiritual being and not just a "biologic robot". I covered this experience in the chapter "Journey to Discovery" in THE EYE OF RA, specifically on page 72 of the PDF.

    Here is the entire 3-hour interview:

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    Quote Wow! I am amazed that Tucker and Joe are discussing this aspect of ETs.
    I agree whole heartedly, this is a sea change in attitude expressing this attribute. Funny also that he mentioned Garry Nolan as this was the person that visited me and the Oregon sightings happening a few years ago.

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    We are also "physical" AND spiritual beings ... when SOME of the alleged "aliens" are actually (super advanced) "synthetic life"/bio-nanotech combined with (Alien?) A.G.I. (synthetic consciousness) the question arises: if that is the same as having a "Spiritual Based Soul/Being" or not ... If not, that can explain that some of them have no limits in bypassing ethics "for the(ir) greater good".
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    It's interesting the point on creating life ie synthetic or chimeras based on gene splicing & making 50% viable animal human lifeforms. It's crazy what scientist are doing in the lab. And are these lifeforms without a soul? Wow talk about deep subject... We can go way back in ancient times when there were Giants & Nephilim basically fallen Angels cohabitating/procreating with woman. Even in the recent video series I watched, "Alien Artifacts the Mexico Expeditions" Steve Quail's team interpreted the artifacts to find that the aliens were mating with Aztec woman birthing hybrid alien babies. What is similar in all these cases is a powerful (force) maybe a force against the one true God (my Biblical perspective) was trying to manipulate the human DNA. So we can at least make an hypothesis that spiritual beings basically bad (tampering in God's creation) had a part to play in the making of synthetic life. Today it seems that humans are following on the same path with these experiments without any moral compass.

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    Default Re: Aliens are spiritual beings

    And some additional points, thoughts to ponder... Most people on forum would concur that there are good & bad ET's. So what would one consider a spiritual being to be? Is it that they have a soul? Is it that they are good or bad?

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    True for most of them I’ve ever encountered.

    But that’s exactly where we all started to fall of “grace”, that’s human idea of it, in this case.

    Spirituality of all kind has been on critical target since the beginning of the 21st century. There’s nearly no “spirituality” or religion that would really pass since.

    Spirituality ( in any entity, space or on the grounds) poses potential danger in the eyes of any ruling system.

    It ( allegedly) distracts us from being the “correct human prototype” required by their systems. Brining people to point of peaceful and self reliable form of existence,
    even selfless thoughts and objectives of helping others becomes “dangerous to the system” because “the system” aims to fix it for us.
    It completely does not matter whether the system calls itself “socialist” or “capitalist” these days or whether it somehow suggests it is respectful to your nationalistic sentiments since the greater system ( vis theory of systems in mathematics) of global banking, internet, trade, security etc. contains all sub-systems on this planet.

    Systems produced in China are a version of systems produced in the US and applied in every other country in the world after some “make up mask” has been applied to them.

    In shortest short , materialistic science has fully replaced the “science of miracles” for majority of modern human populace.

    That’s why we can not talk of ETs as spiritual beings and that’s HOW much of the good reports on various levels of disclosure including my own report is staggered and hindered from the back of governmental controls whomever they also contain.


    In exchange people were offered “better and tighter” human control so they feel safe about selves, CCTV cameras , chips for mountain trekkers, 5G connectivity , constant satellite and other forms of monitoring so they don’t have to “fear the skies”
    and “the truth about themselves”, especially the one about Space.


    Fear not , it all is but human

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    Default Re: Aliens are spiritual beings

    Sounds like Tucker was briefed by the same people who were talking to Tom DeLong.

    Aliens are incarnated beings just like us.
    I would not Angelicly glorify them or Demonically stigmatize them.
    To do so is indulging in the human inclination to bow down and worship.

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    As usual , we humans, can´t conceive extraterrestrial life and, what makes me laugh hard, that they are spiritual..... come on people. Every living entity no matter what race is a spirit first and foremost. We are not the only ones sons and daughters of SOurce. I encourage you, in this special times and with open contact approaching, to see all this issue more naturally... they are our cosmic family. Most of them helping here already a 6 straight years in their positions away from their families... yes they marry and have offspring....
    Time is coming to have the openest of minds and hearts. They really love us unconditionaly. It will be first only pleyadians bc they are closer vibrationaly. For andromedans to come down now is too big of a vibrational down jump, they can do it but it takes a big effort. Whenever we will be more deep into 5 D Andromedans will be able to come more easily.MAybe Sirians and Arcturians imposible, Lyrans are very few. They will show up only after full disclousure bc most of the population ain´t ready bc they dont want to create chaos nor fear.
    It is all consciousness streams.... every living thing and all that is..... so they all spiritual, the higher the frequency the more into spirit and less into physicality.
    Hope this helps everyone to really enjoy this part of the whole AWakening.... the REUNION!!!!!
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    I would never say “aliens” if it did not sound so hearty.

    We are unable to define any “aliens” so far. “Illegal aliens” too are rather diverse group ranging from Samoans, Mexicans, Semites , the Sami people, Cherokee’s and some of the rest of us who are peace seeking and originally also spiritual beings.

    There’s a constant attempt to redefine human beings to the lowest possible rank and biological definition going on and on.

    What about your general human status in 500 years ? Do you expect self to be virtual reality avatar , shiny blob of intelligence surviving on small amount of oxygen contained in time capsule or ..the last remaining Mohican in Minnesota ?


    Is it not smarter to dissolve attachment and return back to one’s Star ?


    The truth is One ,
    but vectors obviously vary.


    There’s a way in ( to every objectosphere) and a way out. It’s where escape speed matters.



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    Quote Posted by betoobig (here)
    As usual , we humans, can´t conceive extraterrestrial life and, what makes me laugh hard, that they are spiritual..... come on people. Every living entity no matter what race is a spirit first and foremost. We are not the only ones sons and daughters of SOurce. I encourage you, in this special times and with open contact approaching, to see all this issue more naturally... they are our cosmic family. Most of them helping here already a 6 straight years in their positions away from their families... yes they marry and have offspring....
    Time is coming to have the openest of minds and hearts. They really love us unconditionaly. It will be first only pleyadians bc they are closer vibrationaly. For andromedans to come down now is too big of a vibrational down jump, they can do it but it takes a big effort. Whenever we will be more deep into 5 D Andromedans will be able to come more easily.MAybe Sirians and Arcturians imposible, Lyrans are very few. They will show up only after full disclousure bc most of the population ain´t ready bc they dont want to create chaos nor fear.
    It is all consciousness streams.... every living thing and all that is..... so they all spiritual, the higher the frequency the more into spirit and less into physicality.
    Hope this helps everyone to really enjoy this part of the whole AWakening.... the REUNION!!!!!
    MUCH LOVE
    Yes everything is spiritual , that's all there is. It sounds like Tucker is just catching up.

    Are there beings with there own agendas , of course. The multiverse is a big place, and there will always be positive and negative based energies. However whether we experience them or not is based on our own vibrational frequency. The beings, races, that I am experiencing are like family, and yes like a REUNION!!!!!. When you stay in a high vibrational state, not buying into the fear mongering, and negative beliefs, then negative based beings simply do not appear in your personal frequency domain. That's how it works , it's pure physics. You cannot perceive what you are not the vibration of. That works both ways. Of course you can still be "aware" of the existence of others with negative beliefs and agendas, but your are not a victim. It's always about choosing the reality you prefer. We are constantly shifting from one reality to the next. What you "experience" is always based on your beliefs and definitions. Thank you "betoobig" , like you I have never been happier, or more positive about what lies ahead, my life is filled with joy, compassion and love. We have absolutely nothing to fear, we are infinite beings. All that being said, it's an infinite, free will universe. Those that want to experience, negative beings, world wars, famine, societal collapse. it's all there for them.

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    The very nature of being is spiritual. So there can be no such thing as 'a being' that isn't. And I include synthetic life in that equation.
    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
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    you are more than right.... benevolent races dont like to be called aliens bc they aren´t aliens to this world ... extraterrestrial is much more polite and prefered by them. Thank you for pointing that out... it really matters. Much love

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    See it from the other side of perspective if you can, our minds are much bigger than our bodies. Much smarter, much more complicated than the physical shell we keep carrying around.

    Even as 1 or 2 year olds we may be able to form independent advanced observation or thought or memory, quite independent from our parents .
    Due to slow development in certain parts of brain and vocal chords we are unable to express the fullness of our thought , till much later.

    I think: that some people have committed lots of “intellectual crime” and plagiarized the field of “ufology” by subtle and gross lies partially because we don’t have modern scientific approach towards the subtle biological universe.

    It’s noticeable through past two decades that people familiarized themselves with many topics previously unknown to them all from nuclear physics to viral biology and overall capacity to contain key information details and logical sequences has improved.

    We have also even with cautions understood that most humans and extraterrestrials interacting with them use similar - or at least shared - logical circuits.

    There’s more we understand about “subtle body”, “energy body” etc. from Yoga science whose human and supra human history is ancient.


    Humanly now we are struggling with elements of this earth and technologies , we have lost touch with our own nature , our spiritual nature , our dignity and equipoise.

    Besides that most people dwell on “owning it here” The Planet or the Plot,
    the tree , the plantain the workers the produce the outcome

    If we were ever “owned” or “given selves” to the great purpose it was for a while.

    Before someone claimed us their property.


    And payed for the funeral.


    Humans also but smell fish (haiku)


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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    The very nature of being is spiritual. So there can be no such thing as 'a being' that isn't. And I include synthetic life in that equation.
    Yes, I've always thought that the term "spiritual being" was redundant. We are spirits first and foremost--even ETs. We often combine the two words in order to be clear about what we are talking about, but "spirit" and "being" are synonymous, IMO. Here is another example of that that I personally experienced.

    Three decades ago I was experiencing frequent abductions. This is difficult for me to talk about, but in one of those abductions I was induced telepathically to have a sexual experience with a tall Gray that projected in my mind that "she" was a female Gray (ugh!)

    Anyway, she had me lie on her as if in copulation. At one point "she" left her body and entered the same space in my head. She induced a feeling of love in me. But the point I am making is that they can leave their heads as spirits at will, which is an example of a "spiritual" experience. Abducting ETs refer to us--i.e., our bodies--as "containers". Our bodies have been designed to be "containers" that make it difficult for us to leave and go out of body, IMO.

    From my experience it appears to me that Grays usually do not have sexual organs as we do, so they simulate a sexual experience as a spirit because they cannot experience it as a body. I assume it is a pleasurable experience for them or maybe they do it for a "high".

    In my experience in a DUMB in 1994 a tall Gray telepathically projected in my mind that "she" was a naked blonde human female in order to get me to follow "her". This was just a "screen memory" that I've learned how to dissolve when recovering abduction memories. How they can do this is anyone's guess, but it appears to be a "spiritual" ability. Karla Turner described just such an experience with a Reptilian in "Masquerade of Angels" where he projected the image that he was her dead husband in order to have sex with her. You can read about my DUMB experience here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1400388

    As an aside, abductees sometimes leave their bodies during abductions due to being in an altered state of being which is akin to a deep hypnotic trance.

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    I have noticed in my own life certain things that happen often enough but really have little to no explanation at all. Take my guitar playing for example. I have played now for nearly 57 years. In that time I have often noted in myself that some days I get in morning just as usual and I'll do my regular routine and all seems the same. But I sit to play my box and when compared to the day before it's like two different guys! Two different skill sets even. Like my fingers just don't want to work today! Other times it's just pure brilliance and they take off almost as if by themselves and as if it's someone else still!

    At other times in usual things we do often I've seen the same sort of issue and it causes me pause. Suppose we all go, "Out And About" at night leaving these shells we experience in. Do we really always come back to the same shell? Would we even know? The amnesia sets in, the ego and body kicks up and all seems the same but are we? From day to day even are we the same? What if the entity experiencing in the shell today isn't the same one that was playing the box yesterday it's just some new being using the body memory to try to keep up? What if we all do this quite often and what if that is what is going with the aliens?
    Suppose they are abducting, pulling out life presence and replacing it with another that oh lets say came from a woman and they shove that into your man shell and put you in the woman shell and sent you home? What if they enjoyed doing it so much they did it again and again and again just to get a laugh? All seems quite possible and we'd never have the memory to know about it, not really we'd just feel strange but not be able to put our finger on it.
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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