Do you think we are in the End Times?

[mojo]

Curious to ask this question because we are a microcosm of a greater cross section of people with world views. In fact here we are. a forum where science & spirituality meet, so perhaps you have already pondered this question. The so-called end times can best be defined from a Biblical perspective, but that is only as way to define end times. Some might say "end times" because of the threat of nuclear war whichever the POV it would still be interesting to hear yours. A lot of videos on youtube are speaking about this very subject and many are in agreement we are in the end times.

[Bill Ryan]

This is definitely a valuable standalone topic, but it may also be interesting for some readers to scan through the Avalon thread The Third Secret of Fatima, which discusses this in some detail. (Houman also quite often posts videos about similar issues on his own excellent and important thread.)

[pyrangello]

I think if there is any type of war it will be isolated and calculated . No leader wants to blow the world up, after all then what would be the leader of in the end ? Nothing . They would be a leader of absolutely nothing and at that point there is no need for them either. It's sometimes difficult to look at our time vs let's say when Abraham Lincoln was dealing with the civil war here in the states, North fighting south, families fighting families, some 700,000 Americans died of wounds and disease. Compare that to Vietnam some 58,000 died in that conflict. Now let's look at the Roman Empire, 500 years ruled the earth and they came crashing down to. Are we in a pinnacle of a turning point in humanity, absolutely. No question. But I will reference back to my theory that life is like a pendulum, it swings hard left then hard right but eventually it comes back to center only to start the cycle all over again.

One more thing I would add, in the history of the world no monetary currency has ever been successful, every single one invented on this earth has come crashing down. This has changed the landscape over and over again Andi believe that will be happening soon again.

[meat suit]

Basically we are in a cyclical system. Day and night every 24 hours, ice age every 100k years with warm period of 12k years inbtween. Religious systems or other bodies of ancient knowledge may well have records and therefore predictions about how those larger cycles start and end in the most basic ways.
Therefore its good to pay attention to all those sources and make the most of it.

[DNA]

I personally don't believe biblical prophecy.


I'm much more interested in navigating the obvious pitfalls, disasters and upheavals as they appear on our roads sequentially as they appear as individual problems.

The hijacking of the medical industry.
The ability to feed my family when supply lines are cut and gasoline is unavailable.
When heating and cooling and the power grid are gone.
Those are the things on my radar right now.

End times???
I fear people will use this as a reason to feel that all is preordained and to abdicate action in favor of resigning to a preconceived fate.

[Agape]

Not by chance, not any soon. If there’s something that should end it is the “despair” humanity is experiencing , despair it embraced long ago and casted upon its own kind.

According to Buddhist cosmology this “world” is part of “Kamadhatu”, the Realm of Desire. Whatever we wish the most will manifest.

For sure some people would wish the end and new beginning for them and their progeny.

But they’re in minority in fact. Compared to them , most of the rest of us wish our “experiment” to continue and will never give up trying.


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The other two of Universal realms ( according to Buddhist Abhidharma which isn’t “geocentric” or “anthropocentric” in many ways) are Rupadhatu ( the Realm of Form) and Arupadhatu ( Formless realms).

The Realm of Form contains many “perfect worlds” including so called “pure realms”
that are much slower, may experience stagnant form of existence and perfection of form , that’s why they’re called “Realms of Form”.

Many people innately remember we were once part of those worlds before we arrived in this world.

“Formless realms” mostly contain realms of consciousness , worlds of pure and impure evolving consciousnesses.

Some souls on Earth remember being part of them.

The rest of “traveling”, transitional , struggling worlds and their civilisations fall into category of Kamadhatu , the Realm of Desire which is imperfect ( but dynamic) and offers infinite options for improvement and fulfillment.

That’s why it is said that even beings from Perfect Worlds sometimes ( not all the time) happen to come here because there’s something they can not achieve in their otherwise purely perfect world.



IF this world came to unfortunate ends or nearing that time, some souls would return to their pure worlds ( of Form , as corporeal beings) while those who could not do that would merge with various Formless Realms of consciousness which would (for them) represent “return to Source”( but it ultimately isn’t even if very close).
They would then re-evolve somewhere else in the Universe, perhaps even here to another kind of intelligent beings but (mostly) forget everything about past,
maybe just the bits about “giant cataclysm”.

[Jaak]

Im uncertain about this. There certainly are some messianic jews out there who are sweating hard to make the prophecies true so that their messiah would appear which requires Malhama/armageddon. Are the predictions of religions true or are some people trying to make them true ? Hard to tell,could be both...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Malhama_Al-Kubra

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by mojo (here)
Curious to ask this question because we are a microcosm of a greater cross section of people with world views. In fact here we are. a forum where science & spirituality meet, so perhaps you have already pondered this question. The so-called end times can best be defined from a Biblical perspective, but that is only as way to define end times. Some might say "end times" because of the threat of nuclear war whichever the POV it would still be interesting to hear yours. A lot of videos on youtube are speaking about this very subject and many are in agreement we are in the end times.

Living in a universe in which our reality is ruled by a natural law vulnerable to chaos and catastrophe, we are in
a constant state of living in the "end times". A biblical perspective in this cycle of our existence is only one way humanity has attempted to explain it.
Regardless of what end times perspective one has, this cycle/time we are now in will end and a new one will begin….if the human story continues in the next cycle is unknown to all.
Everything on this planet has its own timeline, its beginning and end, even us humans. We barely made it through the last cycle change, the younger dryas. The next time we might not be so lucky.
Personally I believe in a spiritual perspective alongside universal natural law. I believe many myths and legends, ancient texts, and even some biblical scriptures hold some form of truth that plays a part in our collective reality.
Truth is absolutely stranger than fiction….

[ExomatrixTV]

People who are not into (extensive) bible-studies ... may have thoughts about it differently ... as you did not ask: "Do you believe we are in the end times?"

• Just an observation

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Bruce G Charlton]

I believe we are in the End Times, and have written a good deal about it; but I have a very particular meaning by saying this. Part of it is that the End Times is a spiritual phenomenon primarily (although material/ physical consequences do follow). Secondly, that all is driven by genuine and inevitable free agency of people (and other beings).

In this context; the End Times are characterized by mainstream, average, as well at top-down value inversion - Good becomes Evil (and vice versa); such that virtue and vice, beauty and ugliness, truth and lies swap places, increasingly, until the situation is overwhelmed.

My belief is that we are already in this situation, it is continuing to worsen, and now is probably too far advanced realistically to suppose it can be reversed overall and permanently.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by DNA (here)
I personally don't believe biblical prophecy.

I confess I'm no Biblical scholar (at all!), so I did a search to see what references there are in the Bible. I realized there were quite a few more than just in Revelations.

This page was interesting, and there are many more to be found if one searches for "End Times Bible references". I'll not quote the entire thing, but here's a list (and I'd be sure there are more, including many in Revelations). The order below is that presented in the article.

• 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
• Matthew 24:40-41
• 2 Timothy 3:1-5
• Matthew 24:6
• Mark 13:32
• Matthew 24:7
• 1 Corinthians 15:52-54
• 1 Timothy 4:1
• Joel 2:28-32
• Matthew 24:21
• Ezekiel 36:24

My own interest in End Times prophecy doesn't come from the Bible, but from the many well-documented paranormal appearances of who or what is almost uniformly described as the Virgin Mary (and other apparently corroborating personal insights).

There's a LONG list of these here (which isn't even complete!), and one can spend hours drilling down into the details of these, which in my experience makes for some extraordinary reading.

What's interesting about those is that as best I know none of them refer to the Second Coming, but most if not all warn in some way — sometimes very graphically and specifically — to either or both of:

1. Apostasy in the Catholic Church (i.e. senior Church officials going seriously off-script, seemingly having been subverted), and
2. 'Fire in the Sky" and other vivid descriptions of some major catastrophe: either a global war, a solar event, or maybe both.

Regarding the latter, there's much that seems to confirm this, NOT just the dozens of Marian Apparitions. I've written elsewhere that over the last year I've been gradually compiling a list of all the references I can find, and they now number over 40 — only a proportion of which are Marian Apparitions themselves. (ETs warn about this too, in many contact experiences.) My list is in note form in my journal, but I really should clean it up and post it sometime. I have to say, it's just a little thought-provoking.

I very much agree with Bruce's post above, btw, and I'd more than welcome any insights or perspectives from those who know far more about the Bible than I, maybe including Kryztian, Matthew, pabranno, and I'm sure quite a few others.

[Mike]

It seems clear to me that there's a very aggressive push at the moment for the elites to achieve their one world authoritarian government. It's so clearly and openly demonic now; I'm shocked on an almost daily basis even though I've grown largely numb to the insanity. I'm shocked at how brazen they are and I'm shocked at how many people (smart people even!) are still either unable or unwilling to acknowledge these realities.

I'm glad I'm still shocked - I don't want to go completely numb.

At the moment it appears to all be trickling down from the WEF. Of course if we abstract upwards there are far more sinister forces at play. We're left to guess, but things that come to mind are archons, A.I., demons, etc. These seem to occupy the top level of the evil hierarchy.

Everything is inverted now. Symbolically that suggests something like Satanism. Language, common sense, and even things as basic and fundamental as sex/gender are victims of this inversion. Little kids are being hyper sexualized and this is increasingly viewed as progressive and good among people who'd previously demonstrated sound judgement for most of their adult lives.

People aren't just being deceived, they're being possessed by all this. Literally. It feels to me that this evil force is close to achieving the critical mass of possessed people it requires to make it's final push (end times).

I'm not a particularly religious man, but as I navigate this evil deeper and deeper, I'm forced to use religious language. It seems like the only brand sufficient enough to describe it all.

[Satori]

Perhaps we are in the beginning times. All things must pass and begin anew.

[Open Minded Dude]

Endtimes are actually 'Always Times'. People believed it in all ages. Endtime sects also always existed. And then there are the prophecies around 'dates'.

Didn't we have this too recently with 2012 or 2000/Y2K?

It is debated among historians if even in the middle ages they had a Y1K craze with apocalyptic fears (although here for exclusively religious reasons) of the year 1000. However, it is not clear if it really was that dramatic and wide-spread. It's thus controversial among historians. Here's 2 academic works (from quite a few) about "The Terrors Of The Year 1000".

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books...1E00673B64D3F7

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ly_middle_ages

[onawah]

There have been a lot of End Times, followed with a new beginning.
Every 12,000 years at least, and we are fortunate enough to have the scientific data now to prove it.
Prophets, when they are accurate, may be ahead of the game when it comes to predictions, but it certainly helps to have the science.
I haven't come across anyone better for providing it than SuspiciousObservers: https://www.youtube.com/@Suspicious0bservers
The creator of SO, Ben Davidson, doesn't skimp when it comes to backing up his predictions with other, expert sources (as well as prophecy) so the data he presents is certainly convincing.

[pueblo]

Posted by mojo (here)
Do you think we are in the end times?

Hopefully, the game is wearing thin at this stage.

[DNA]

A sure fire way to get ignored is to mention Billy Meier.
Something about Meier causes people to tune out.
He's not perfect.
But he's the best source of outlier prognostication I've ever seen.
While folks flock to the fakes the Meier topic is relegated to obscurity.
Meiers predictions were made nearly 50 years ago.
The guy predicted the Juan de fuca and how it would go off creating a cataclysm that would raise an island out of the pacific and level the pacific NW with incredible tsunami and earth quakes.
He predicts that Europe will fall from within due to a population of Muslims that will over throw these European countries. Especially France and Great Britian.

He says Russia will conquer all of Europe.
I mean when I read this 20 years ago it seemed like a freaking joke.
But so too did the prediction that the USA would succumb to a Civil War.
All of this seemed bat sh!t crazy. Especially after 92 when the USSR fell.
Still Meier didn't apologize or try to recapitulate. He stood by his former prediction.

So with the road becoming more visible and Meier's predictions becoming a likely reality...
I'm going to side step religious confusion and stick with the guy who keeps nailing it.

Oh one more thing.
When asked how will we know when all of this is about to happen Meier was told there would be two events before sh!t hit the fan.
1. Mount Vesuvius would terribly erupt
2. That giants living underground in Peru would come top side abducting women.

Insanely enough giants have been coming out and abducting women in Peru. Thread on Avalon HERE.


And lastly.
Sorry about the sassy energy in this post.
I've been on the defense with Billy Meier for ten years now.
So yes I'm a tad defensive about the subject and I'm now at a point where I don't get it.

Yes all of this stuff sounded crazy ten years ago.
But it sure the hell doesn't sound crazy now does it?
So what gives...?
People still refuse Meier.

He mentioned almost fifty years ago that Apophis might hit in 2029.
Long before anyone else was ever worried about the asteroid.

I know why Meier isn't popular.
He was the only contacted to state no one is going to help you.
You guys have to start cleaning up your own mess.
The contactee crowd doesn't like that ..
Everything has to be love and light.
Meier is responsibility and repercussions.

The one positive out of the Meier information is this.
There will be no one world government.
There will be no new world order.
There will be no chipped population.
Things are going to be so f-cked up
Society will be set back hundreds of years.
Which is probably not a bad thing.

[mojo]

speaking of predictions I thought this was interesting to share.... here are a few to ponder...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rr0wiT5uV8M

[thepainterdoug]

Eschatology (/ˌɛskəˈtɒlədʒi/ from Ancient Greek ἔσχατος (éskhatos) 'last', and -logy) concerns expectations of the end of the present age, human history, or the world itself.[1] The end of the world or end times[2] is predicted by several world religions (both Abrahamic and non-Abrahamic), which teach that negative world events will reach a climax. Belief that the end of the world is imminent is known as apocalypticism, and over time has been held both by members of mainstream religions and by doomsday cults

i post this because a friend of mine speaks of the Eschaton all the time and says we are near.

My personal feeling, I feel the end times have come for so many yesterday, today, and will so tomorrow. When someone dies, it is their end times. What else can we mean? Our time on earth is what we are referring to.

The earths end time? No, we are not near that. Our present way of life? Yes ,I do feel so, I feel an acceleration, a turning.

Such things as soverignty , ownership, personal freedoms, rights and the rule of law seem to be under attack. My way of life existed and depended on these constants.

And I would say that if governments such as my own, under the guise of " caring" about people were for real, Id be for it. But it is not! Its a ruse, a play for totalitarianism by an elite class. They are godless and evil, want it all and want us out of the way.
And once our new young and naive fall for it with their electric and green belief, the trap will be set. Goodby freedom forever.

we are in something strange, and even if I am materially ok and not directly being affected, I feel it in the ether, the ozone, Its a dark blanket over things and I do feel we are in for suffering, Well were suffering already right now

As I have evolved and aged, I have found such a soulful love for modesty, kindness , softness and beauty. I see it and feel it, and it needs not be explained

DNA I love all things Billy Meir. I spoke to Michael Horn several times.

hang on to your hat friends

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
I post this because a friend of mine speaks of the Eschaton all the time and says we are near.

Dan Smith, yes?