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    I have to give a shout out to Doug for showing us the Jeff Mara podcast. He lets the people talk and say their experience. So simple. This one below hit me so hard I started crying and had to "think of baseball" in order to get myself together (I was driving). When he told Jesus he thought he wasn't worthy of heaven and what Jesus said, around the 13:00 mark.

    I feel these stories are for us!!!
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    Quote Posted by bobme (here)
    I do however, have only one regret for that moment in that time.

    I neglected to go deeper in to my self and ask her her name, and introduce myself. Just on a simple learning and sharing and undestanding way.
    ...in spirit form names are irrelevant and just a label. Imagine the soul to soul connection you made that moment, the experience, and the ripple effect it created for others to do the same...

    I think thats probably half true. We shouldn't get stuck on labels. However, I would think that in the spirit world there would be names (sounds) that reflect the frequency and energy type of the being. In other words, names arent chosen, they are earned or revealed.

    However, it seems likely, words are less relevant than observing the details of the beings aura/energy/presence for identification. And certain approximate names would be accepted for beings that perhaps lack the awareness to identify a being clearly energetically?
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    I have to give a shout out to Doug for showing us the Jeff Mara podcast. He lets the people talk and say their experience. So simple. This one below hit me so hard I started crying and had to "think of baseball" in order to get myself together (I was driving). When he told Jesus he thought he wasn't worthy of heaven and what Jesus said, around the 13:00 mark.

    I feel these stories are for us!!!
    I watched part of the video. Interesting testimony of a simple man. I find it funny that he saw and knew that the respirators were killing people. He already had an NDE, and he was meant to live, so he knew to refuse that. lol

    This is a good example of how people create their own reality, even NDE. It was packaged in a way that was good and appropriate for him. I have dreams of family reunions of some sort. Not relatives from ages ago, but more like all the people alive and a few dead that I know. Its very nice.

    The part about Jesus dying for all his sins is the part that I consider nonsense. Perhaps telling him that was what he needed in order to let go of his unworthiness. But, its a bit strange, as it seems there would be effective responses that are more true. I mean, maybe cuz we are all ONE, a perfected being can sort of purify all of us to some degree, but consequences are needed for learning.

    Interestingly, from the portion i watched, it seems he wasnt a religious man. So, im thinking a simple person who has not given much thought to the nature of reality may usually have a default NDE. Kind of like unconscious people who just default to whatever the masses believe. So, he defaulted to the christian system subconsciously or whatever.

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    Quote Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
    I have to give a shout out to Doug for showing us the Jeff Mara podcast. He lets the people talk and say their experience. So simple. This one below hit me so hard I started crying and had to "think of baseball" in order to get myself together (I was driving). When he told Jesus he thought he wasn't worthy of heaven and what Jesus said, around the 13:00 mark.

    I feel these stories are for us!!!
    I watched part of the video. Interesting testimony of a simple man. I find it funny that he saw and knew that the respirators were killing people. He already had an NDE, and he was meant to live, so he knew to refuse that. lol

    This is a good example of how people create their own reality, even NDE. It was packaged in a way that was good and appropriate for him. I have dreams of family reunions of some sort. Not relatives from ages ago, but more like all the people alive and a few dead that I know. Its very nice.

    The part about Jesus dying for all his sins is the part that I consider nonsense. Perhaps telling him that was what he needed in order to let go of his unworthiness. But, its a bit strange, as it seems there would be effective responses that are more true. I mean, maybe cuz we are all ONE, a perfected being can sort of purify all of us to some degree, but consequences are needed for learning.

    Interestingly, from the portion i watched, it seems he wasnt a religious man. So, im thinking a simple person who has not given much thought to the nature of reality may usually have a default NDE. Kind of like unconscious people who just default to whatever the masses believe. So, he defaulted to the christian system subconsciously or whatever.
    He's not religious at all which drew me to it more lol.

    "The last will be first and the first will be last" I've heard this many times before and never thought much of it. But being told this in the context of this man saying he didn't feel "worthy" of being in heaven cause he wasn't religious just hit me. He was basically told the opposite is the truth. For me it was defining unconditional love. We're loved no matter what. And this "sinner?" was chosen to spread this simple but profound message the world needs to hear.
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    Quote Posted by Merkaba360 (here)
    Quote Posted by truthseek (here)
    Quote Posted by bobme (here)
    I do however, have only one regret for that moment in that time.

    I neglected to go deeper in to my self and ask her her name, and introduce myself. Just on a simple learning and sharing and undestanding way.
    ...in spirit form names are irrelevant and just a label. Imagine the soul to soul connection you made that moment, the experience, and the ripple effect it created for others to do the same...

    I think thats probably half true. We shouldn't get stuck on labels. However, I would think that in the spirit world there would be names (sounds) that reflect the frequency and energy type of the being. In other words, names arent chosen, they are earned or revealed.

    However, it seems likely, words are less relevant than observing the details of the beings aura/energy/presence for identification. And certain approximate names would be accepted for beings that perhaps lack the awareness to identify a being clearly energetically?
    I'm sorry my comment did not meet your "merkabic" wisdom my learned friend. Highly unfortunate perhaps, you may have misunderstood the point I was trying to make to Bobme about his soul to soul experience...

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    This is one of the TOP NDE stories I ever heard. It is harrowing and amazing and as she says, one might not believe she could have had such an experience except that there was a picture taken (again in a most remarkably "that is impossible" way). Plus she is such a SUNNY and beautiful person and this left me with awe about the whole point of being alive and that we have HELP here.


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    Default Re: I have come to needed realizations thru NDEs

    I enjoy listening to near death experiences, they seem so authentic, usually explaining how clear and free they felt with unconditional love being a big part of what they bring back with them when they return to their bodies. I have experienced a NDE and it is true, our feelings and insights change forever after


    So here is another persons experince.


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    THANKS EVERYONE FOR COMMENTING/ Im sorry I dont get to write each one of you. Jeff Mara is the best!!

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    I want to share my friend's NDE which he experienced more than 50 years ago.
    His name is Lou Famoso. He finally returned to heaven in 2019.
    Very profound

    https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1lou_f_nde.html

    Btw, i think nderf is the best place to study NDE, there are thousands of stories in there.

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    Thanks for that link! Without any doubt the best/largest collection of personal NDE experiences available on the internet.

    The best way to help anyone who had an NDE and as a result got traumatised (not being able to place the experience) is sharing his/her experience with others in the same situation. NDE-ers all have different "levels" of fear/awareness/doubts... and when exchanging information (on their NDE's), people can find peace (in most cases). The NDERF website is an incredible valuable and helpful tool in this regard.

    Other ways to assist others is having/creating self-help group(s). For those that can understand Dutch/Flemish, here the example for the Flemish part of Belgium:
    https://www.zelfhulp.be/zoek-een-zelfhulpgroep/bde

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    Michael thank you. I love the nderf site!!

    Johan thanks as well!!

    On Jeff Maras show, the interview with Andy is in my top pics. i have recently spoke to Andy privately on a zoom call. He explains things in simple and consistent manner for many years

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLSxXeLhQOo&t=3073s

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    Michael H this testimony is incredible! Did you say he passed on now?

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    I look forward to Jeff Mara's interviews

    Quote Ex Voodoo Sorcerer Goes To Heaven & Hell During His Near Death Experiences
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    Near-Death Experience Podcast guest 551 is Brother Earthquake who was an ex voodoo sorcerer and now bishop Who has had 2 near death experiences. He has been to heaven and hell during his NDE experiences.

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    I watched this earlier and this seems a good place to put it - I enjoyed it and there are inspiring thoughts about Life's Purpose and who we are and if we have more than one life in the end section but I won't do quotes and will leave the interview to unfold - I liked Raymond Kinsman's down to earth and sometimes humorous approach to it all - he had his NDE when he was nine years old but couldn't talk about it back then because things like that weren't openly talked about....

    It was only many years later that he processed it all....

    Doug...he's also a musician, artist and works with wood .... he sounds like a man after your own heart .....

    meet the artist Raymond Kinsman - master woodcarver

    At one point he said (edit to add that he says the following in the link above not the main NDE video...) that as a young man he announced to his father that he knew what he wanted to be - his Dad was.... oh what?.....a Drummer he said..... oh that's great said his dad (probably thinking oh no ... but do you think it might be a good idea to have something else to fall back on...??

    Later Raymond had a think about that and told his Dad yes he WAS going to do something else to fall back on....and would be lead guitarist as well..... haha......

    **as I said above I muddled up 2 videos yesterday when I watched one after the other and the above bit was in the link...**

    anyway - here it is.... (52:11)

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    yajbee / thanks for this. This is an NDE that kinda stands on its own. In a different category from all others I have heard. Im actually not sure what I think about it because its sits on the sidelines, having me now feel, well, I dont really know what these are.
    the thought , a perpetual unfolding of now... quite something.
    i have more to say but will think on it all
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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
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    I watched this earlier and this seems a good place to put it - I enjoyed it and there are inspiring thoughts about Life's Purpose and who we are and if we have more than one life in the end section but I won't do quotes and will leave the interview to unfold - I liked Raymond Kinsman's down to earth and sometimes humorous approach to it all - he had his NDE when he was nine years old but couldn't talk about it back then because things like that weren't openly talked about....

    It was only many years later that he processed it all....

    Doug...he's also a musician, artist and works with wood .... he sounds like a man after your own heart .....

    meet the artist Raymond Kinsman - master woodcarver

    At one point he said that as a young man of around 21... he announced to his father that he knew what he wanted to be - his Dad was.... oh what?.....a Drummer he said..... oh that's great said his dad (probably thinking oh no ... but do you think it might be a good idea to have something else to fall back on...??

    Later Raymond had a think about that and told his Dad yes he WAS going to do something else to fall back on....and would be lead guitarist as well..... haha......

    anyway - here it is.... (52:11)

    Very cool interview!

    One bullet point I'd like to address:
    • Raymond was told: It's not his time yet and needs to return but may come back any time he wants - once he fulfilled his purpose.
    Now I wonder, who is it to tell him that it is "not his time yet" and takes away his decision to stay? (I read many NDE stories with the same "lines")

    I like very much his realizations - in particular - when people have mystical experiences it comes as a result of release.
    "The greatest good you can do for another is not just share your riches, but to reveal to him his own."
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    Well said Michi/ agree . Whos is the" telling" coming from? . And the time issue thing is always crazy, scrambling such thoughts of, "past lives",or "when you find out?" it will then be your time, etc

    I heard a channeler on Jeff Mara. She was channeling in a Bashar style, and said there is no time. we over here have no time, but then when asked another question said, we are running out of time and must go now. really? haha. gotta love this human curfuffle .

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    yajbee / thanks for this. This is an NDE that kinda stands on its own. In a different category from all others I have heard. Im actually not sure what I think about it because its sits on the sidelines, having me now feel, well, I dont really know what these are.
    the thought , a perpetual unfolding of now... quite something.
    i have more to say but will think on it all
    pd
    I have just watched it again (and enjoyed it again) to reply to you and Michi...I'm thinking NDEs are almost certainly subjective according to the person's experiences and state of being...? (and even expectations...?)

    Maybe the NDE of a 9 year old (processed many years later) reflects the level of life experience OF a 9 year old while Raymond was Raymonding 'physically'............so it was understandable that his dog Skippy that came to him first - and Skippy had died a while previously - (painting he did of Skippy as he appeared in the NDE shown @47:28)..... Skippy made the 9 year old Raymond feel unafraid and opened up the love vibe...

    An older person with tons more life experience under their belt could fine tune their NDE into more expansive areas maybe .... (speculation, of course)

    by the way - I've made an edit to my post from yesterday because I spoke of something that was not in the main video...it was in the link....

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    Quote Posted by Michi (here)

    [video clipped - in post 34]


    Very cool interview!

    One bullet point I'd like to address:
    • Raymond was told: It's not his time yet and needs to return but may come back any time he wants - once he fulfilled his purpose.
    Now I wonder, who is it to tell him that it is "not his time yet" and takes away his decision to stay? (I read many NDE stories with the same "lines")

    I like very much his realizations - in particular - when people have mystical experiences it comes as a result of release.

    Re about who is it to tell him it wasn't his time yet and he needed to go back and fulfil his life's purpose....

    He did resist going back but nevertheless DID go back -

    He said it was the (masculine) 'being'..... God....the I am that I am.... that told him it wasn't his time - so I presume 'God' - the I am that I am... had overall authority and knowledge to impart this or perhaps authority isn't quite the right word - the MISSION? to tell him that and help him to go back to complete his life's purpose...
    like if a child was about to step off the edge of a cliff and be killed - it would be a duty to stop them if you could - you would assume the 'authority' to do that....

    just trying to speculate/philosophise on the point you brought up...


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