The Second Coming ~ Christ Within

[gini]

'Second coming' is us collectively realizing that we are divine beings,and that we always were and always will be one with God.

[jaybee]

Posted by Delight (here)
Listening to this interview between Alex Jones and Neil Oliver makes me so happy. I know they feel connected to an ineffable but powerful inner change. I don't see any need to be religious. I am feeling that IF there is a "being" called Christ, I want to meet this being. I intend to have a relationship with the Qualities I love to imagine being in Christs Presence.

I am a student of Neville Goddard who is brilliant in his presentation. He distinguishes "GOD"" being everything, unchanging, immanent. One is given a responsibility to seek being the highest and best we can imagine and change our experiences toward a purpose. We experience chewing through the experience of something that seems one way NOW (as we imagine reality) and by bringing redemption to our mistakes, we create a different experience as WE change in being. We are EACH Christ. However, Goddard in his mystical revelation saw that there is a teleology at play. Becoming separate to become whole. He suggests that we experience THE SAME LIFE over and over while we are only aware of being in the experience. People are unconscious to their own awareness. They believe there is an objective "world" that impinges on us. People imagine terrible horrible unbelievably disgusting states. This can hang us up for many repetitions.

To see one's responsibility means WE may experience REDEMPTION of our "sin" (the meaning being "off the mark").God who is creating our experience is our imagination. We change experience by change of imagination. One must be able to IMAGINE a state of being that we deliberately create and LIVE there.

I feel a Presence with me at all times. I feel it is perfect to see the Presence as "Unknown" and here and personal. I feel a child of God. The second coming to me is this feeling. The Presence allows me to imagine such wonderful things. THEN, I see evidence in how others report similar expectations. Humanity is so beautiful and we are Christed by God's presence. We are TOGETHER in a love for being alive. We were ignorant and now are being wisened by the experience of our sin.

So many are accessing the transcendent which encourages us to boldly imagine our destiny.

Case in point of how I see Christ returning in each, I listen with Joy

AI comes up with a fair idea of Goddard's teaching.

God is the infinite, all-powerful, and all-knowing creative force that underlies all existence.
Christ is the manifestation of God’s power and wisdom in human form.
Christ is the bridge between God and humanity, making it possible for humans to access and experience God’s presence and power in their lives.
Neville believed that humans have the power to become Christ-like, to embody God’s power and wisdom in their own lives, and to experience the presence of God in their daily lives.
In summary, according to Neville Goddard, God and Christ are not separate entities, but rather different aspects of the same reality. Christ is the manifestation of God’s power and wisdom in human form, making it possible for humans to access and experience God’s presence and power in their lives.

Many Thanks .....

and that was a great Alex/Neil interview.... both men coming to prominence in these times when (Christ) Consciousness is expanding apace.... and both of them balancing the personal with the political so well - I love to know that Alex, like the true Shaman that he is, goes out in the morning before it gets light and gets into the natural environment - experiencing what he describes as 'ecstacy' .... this must be how he manages + replenishes his strength and power - to face what he does (is called to do) in his service to Humankind -

Just a quick general thought - I wonder if our Higher Selves and our Earthly Selves are coming closer together - merging..... as we fulfil a (nother) natural cycle of Being / Growing .....

Alex uses the word ecstasy - I know the feeling he's describing - and when I'm balanced with nature and lucky enough feel it, I call it being Blissed Out.... ....

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Neils description (this part of the discussion is near the end) of Scotland being so infused and thick with history that you have to brush it from in front of your face.... made me recall that around the time of Siege of Montségur the Knights Templar Fleet left Southern France ..... possibly with actual treasure saved from the Cathar Stronghold as it fell....and more than likely went to Scotland - before going on to Nova Scotia (New Scotland).....

Which leads to the Cathars and their prophesied return - which would fit in so perfectly with the 21st Century rise of Christ Consciousness.... this is the time of the returning -

full article 'The Cathars are Returning' here

In 1244 following an 8-or-so month siege at Montsegur, over a hundred Cathars were given the choice to either convert to Catholicism or be burned. They chose their spiritual sovereignty and integrity, and walked laughing and singing into the flames.

They knew they’d be back. Their principle of the equality of all humans in the sight of God would be back. Their belief that sacredness is for all, even women and peasants of all skin tones. And that each human has their own unique connection to God/dess/Whatever you call it.

Then, in August of 1321, an educated Cathar named Guillaume Belibaste was said to be the last Cathar immolated by the mercenaries paid by the Catholic Church.

As he was burning, he declared a prophecy, which to all accounts is:

“Al cap dels sèt cent ans, verdejara lo laurèl.” (In the language of Occitan.)

Rough translation:

“The laurel will flourish again in 700 years, and we will return!”

The Laurel bush was the symbol of immortality and love. So this meant that the Cathars and their principles will return.

It’s now 700 years later. 1321-2021.

So, the Cathars are returning.

I know you feel the Cathar connection, too, (from another thread) so I will take the liberty to add...

'We are returning'...






edit to add...

Hymn of the Cathars "Lo boièr" (Le bouvier - The cattle herder)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HlGO9IRJeqg

[Journeyman]

Posted by jaybee (here)

The point of this personal story and getting to the nitty gritty of the thread topic - I'm thinking that the Second Coming is happening like this - within - probably to people all over the world - not an actual incarnation of a human - (although never say never and someone a bit special may fit the bill at some point?) ... I've since come across the term Christ Consciousness and this is what must be happening IMO...

The Second Coming is the manifestation of Christ Consciousness in more and more people
- strengthening the desire for truth and the pursuit of all that is good and healthy - the connection coming through the activation + sharing of kundalini energy ....

Hi Jaybee,

Thank you for sharing your experience, it made for powerful and uplifting reading! It reminded me of this video, hope it proves of interest, it's certainly related to the point you made in the post above. The speaker is John St Julien Baba Wanyama, he's quite an interesting guy who founded and is running a disabled children's home in Tanzania, which is quite a remarkable exploit in itself:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HoAtz9X1lnI

[jaybee]

Posted by Journeyman (here)

Hi Jaybee,

Thank you for sharing your experience, it made for powerful and uplifting reading! It reminded me of this video, hope it proves of interest, it's certainly related to the point you made in the post above. The speaker is John St Julien Baba Wanyama, he's quite an interesting guy who founded and is running a disabled children's home in Tanzania, which is quite a remarkable exploit in itself:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HoAtz9X1lnI

That is such a great video - smack bang on topic - many thanks.......

[wondering]

Gini, I so agree with you. Even the idea of atonement, to me, comes from a place of having been told we must do and be and behave as we are told, primarily by organized religion. I speak now of my own experience. When we cannot possibly conform to all we are told will "save us", or prove us good enough, then guilt, shame and feelings of inadequacy result. The realization that we have always been good enough, always free to choose how to live and to express ourselves, without needing to meet standards outside of ourselves, I think this awareness is one with the coming of the christ consciousness.
Jaybee, I love the Hymn of the Cathars and the terrain, and Journeyman, I really look forward to watching the video.
This has been my favorite thread in a long time.

[Journeyman]

Posted by jaybee (here)


That is such a great video - smack bang on topic - many thanks.......

You're most welcome and thank you for your reply. I feel a little guilty when replying to such a thoughtful post with a link to a video that's asking for 40 mins of your time, but as you say this one was right on topic and it's a channel I'd recommend, he's an interesting guy to follow.

[Heart to heart]

Wondering

Take the word ‘ATONEMENT’’

Now look at it with the eyes of the Christ within.

AT ONE MENT

We are all MEANT to be AT ONE

WE ARE THE ONE, Divine sparks of the ONE LIGHT. There is no other!

But we were given choice as to how we use that Light, and herein lies the choice between Churchianity or Christianity.

[Delight]

Posted by Heart to heart (here)
Wondering

Take the word ‘ATONEMENT’’

Now look at it with the eyes of the Christ within.

AT ONE MENT

We are all MEANT to be AT ONE

WE ARE THE ONE, Divine sparks of the ONE LIGHT. There is no other!

But we were given choice as to how we use that Light, and herein lies the choice between Churchianity or Christianity.

At this moment, God is here. It is IMO the very fish in water who does not know what water is. I have such very little knowing of God but the FACT that I know this is so, has made such a difference.

From this awareness, what i just cannot understand are the ideas of Churchianity which people have glommed onto about sacrifice. I do not understand the idea that an entity was needed to be created (God's only son) who would be physically destructed by pain and murder for ANY good reason. Where does this acceptance of sacrifice arise and why is it so engaging? One of my friends was devoutly Catholic and the whole trajectory of the suffering of Christ for us was everything. it served her as she survived a life threatening condition for several years unexpected. How she approached death was her own journey. however, she was not feeling what I feel... that if there is something to the story of Christ for me, it is just a mystery of being what Christ was BEING.

I hear so many people talking about the Bible being "the word" of God and they are all focused on this word. That makes no sense to me. I do love the "red letters" which are said to be words from the being Christ. I don't accept that we need any bible except as a source of possible experience to consider. I see the power being the human consciousness which creates in this 3D/4D plane. It is a realm of narratives which capture our allegiance.

We all have something we create as our story. I love to think that we are meant to experience a "story of material life" which is fully inspirited. The nondual way of being fully spirit in a whole state in body seems to me the narrow passage into a Union within and without. It is a paradox. IMO that is when we know we truly are each the children of Source, being Earth life creators.

The creating we do HERE, is not permanent and ends AND I feel so ignorant as my small self. The material realm feels like never ending attempts to rearrange some past constructions. What IS the point? I think it is to learn to LIVE from a more whole and magical POV. Allowing divine to orchestrate....

So, you feel BOTH invested in living this life and also GET help from the SOURCE to do it and CONNECTED to an Unknown but real truth of the mystery.

IMO we absolutely NEED a relationship with God. I like thinking of any being called Christ as a personification of the perfection of being human. Perfection is being FULLY who you are as the human being. IT is not about perfect performing in a realm of this inversion. In fact IMO we are able to change the daily reflection by developing MORE contact with Source energy and divine inspiration.

There is a spiritual realm. However, it is still material. The contact with SOURCE just seems like it won't have ascended masters and hierarchy and the possible reincarnation
recycle? I DO have serious reservations about many "things" like the source of astral contact. Is there a "happy face" of a still manipulative consciousness seeking our belief? the whole presentation of needing systems of religion feels insidious deflection.

[jaybee]

Posted by jaybee (here)

Posted by Vangelo (here)
Thank you jaybee for sharing this with us. Did these two experiences happen recently or back in 2020? Also, would it be possible to post a picture or two of your artwork?

The latest 'surge' involving the Art Group (and other things not mentioned yet) was in the last 6 weeks -

Posted by wondering (here)
Jaybee, thank for sharing your powerful experience. I would really like to see some of your art, too.

I knew this would happen - - of course I will somehow have to try and post some of the Jesus Art Work in this thread...it's not that easy though - I don't have a Smart Phone - the pics are on a regular camera that I take into the Photo Shop at the big Tesco's just down the road and print off what I want .... but putting them on the computer to put here - without going into the boring details... would be difficult ... but I've got a plan - I'll get someone with a Smart Phone to take photos of them - then send them in an email to me ---- and I'll see if I can put them here - phew - that might take a little while though... so bear with me on that -

re bolded above - The photos I sent to a friend of my Jesus Art (to put in an email) were posted 8 days ago but haven't arrived... !

They must have been intercepted by gremlins or demons.... ..... I did forget to write a 'sender' address on the back of envelope but I don't think it was too heavy - luckily my friend had one pic that was on a card that I'd sent them a while back.... so I'll put that one for now - (artwork from 2020)

Blue Jesus

[wondering]

jaybee, Blue Jesus really drew me in and is quite absorbing. So much depth. Thank you for posting and I hope the other ones arrive.

[gini]

'How To Achieve Christ Consciousness And Attain Immortality' - Rudolf Steiner--

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1PiD2Y-Jt3o

--45 min--4 Jul 2024
'According to Rudolf Steiner, ordinary consciousness is the everyday awareness rooted in sense perceptions and memories, focused on the present and the physical world.

Higher consciousness, on the other hand, transcends this by engaging in imaginative thinking through meditation, enabling an individual to perceive deeper layers of reality, such as the etheric processes shaping life and spiritual dimensions beyond physical existence.

To achieve higher consciousness, one must practice meditation to develop imaginative perception, ultimately experiencing their life's course and spiritual insights in a vivid, substantial manner, thus bridging the gap between ordinary awareness and profound spiritual understanding. -⌛ Chapters:

0:00 Intro
00:48 The Dual States Of Consciousness
03:01 What Is Imaginative And Ordinary Consciousness?
15:30 Reclaiming Lost Memories And Reaching Immortality
29:02 How The Process Of Awakening Occurs
36:02 How To Solve The Riddle Of Death

[Vangelo]

Posted by jaybee (here)
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The photos I sent to a friend of my Jesus Art (to put in an email) were posted 8 days ago but haven't arrived... !

They must have been intercepted by gremlins or demons.... .....

I have these angel coins that my wife blesses.
https://www.victorycrystals.com/stor...et_Coin.html#/

My wife has a pile of these because I will keep one in my pocket and eventually I will lose it.

We are certain that the lost angel has been found by someone who needs it more than me. I suspect your Jesus pictures are with someone who needs that blessing.

[jaybee]

Posted by Vangelo (here)

Posted by jaybee (here)
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The photos I sent to a friend of my Jesus Art (to put in an email) were posted 8 days ago but haven't arrived... !

They must have been intercepted by gremlins or demons.... .....

I have these angel coins that my wife blesses.
https://www.victorycrystals.com/stor...et_Coin.html#/

My wife has a pile of these because I will keep one in my pocket and eventually I will lose it.

We are certain that the lost angel has been found by someone who needs it more than me. I suspect your Jesus pictures are with someone who needs that blessing.

Those (blessed) Angel Coins are lovely....

Re what you said - about what could have happened to the Jesus Pics in the post...well that would be nice if they ended up with someone who needed a blessing - there's a bit of a story about the night they were posted - the posting of them was nearly prevented or at least delayed ....

I won't go into the medical details but I had a health crisis on the evening of 28th June - in Britain you can phone the 111 if you want urgent advice when the doctors are shut - so I phoned 111 and they said they were sending an ambulance but couldn't say how long it would be - (assessments are made about who's situation is the most urgent..)

Two friends came round in the night for a couple of hours while I was waiting - I had already written a letter to go with the Jesus Pics and had stuck the envelope shut - I said oh I need to get this letter in the post and they posted it in a post box just down the road for me in the middle of the night...

The ambulance came early in the morning and the two paramedics were surprised when I gave them a Jesus Card each... (I've got a project on the go making cards with the Jesus Artwork) they chose the ones they wanted - they said oh patients don't usually give us anything... but they were pleased with the present... ...

Now... the friend who posted the letter thinks that someone working for the Post Office might have nicked it because it looked like a (thick) birthday card ... sometimes (very occasionally) that kind of thing can happen if a dishonest person thinks there might be money or a gift token inside -

so....maybe if that happened - that person DID need a blessing....

or....I suppose it might have got stuck somewhere, somehow, in transit....

[jaybee]

Posted by Journeyman (here)

Posted by jaybee (here)


That is such a great video - smack bang on topic - many thanks.......

You're most welcome and thank you for your reply. I feel a little guilty when replying to such a thoughtful post with a link to a video that's asking for 40 mins of your time, but as you say this one was right on topic and it's a channel I'd recommend, he's an interesting guy to follow.

Yes he is an interesting guy - I've watched one more of his videos so far and it was good - and will watch more as time goes on ....

And something he said in the video you posted has sparked a MAJOR development in the 'Christ Within' theme...

He used the term 'sacred secretion' I wondered what that is and if it was the same as kundalini energy - which is a term I bandy about quite freely after having a spontaneous kundalini 'eruption'...(awakening)... about 17 years ago -

I did a cursory search on 'sacred secretion' at some point and this video popped up on YouTube recommendations today - there could have been better ones to use and it has subtitles in another language which kind of messes up the appearance - but I still want to put it here because it was my lead in to the subject - (coming from the mention in the John St Julien Baba Wanyama presentation #23)

it looks like this is approaching the real nitty gritty - sacred (secret) teachings - of the topic of Christ Within ....

I will start with this one and clearly this is a very relevant avenue to explore re the thread and I have a couple of other links/ videos lined up for another day...


Santos Bonacci - The Secret Christ Within (The Sacred Oil, Jacob's Ladder)(46:29)

there appear to be a collection of extracts that make up the video .... often going into biological and more scientific descriptions.... explanations -

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7TJx8BaTP5c

[jaybee]

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Just had a look at John St Julien Baba Wanyama's Youtube channel and he has done quite a bit about Sacred Secretions - picked out and watched this one -

anointed with the oil of gladness... the oil of joy... and the whole thing about the Sacred Secretion being created? activated in the brain once a month when the moon is in the same zodiac sign as the Sun Sign at birth - is fascinating stuff - there appears to be a connection with the substance called DMT (dimethyltryptamine) (?) and the Sacred Secretion but I'm not sure yet if it is exactly the same -

Here's a Moon Calendar showing the phases and their astrological signs -

and one of John St Julien Baba Wanyama's presentations on the subject of Sacred Secretion...

Christ Within and a direct link to the Higher Mind and what we call God...

The Sacred Secretion & Christ Are One (It Is Inside Of You, But You Are Wasting It)(32:47) -

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RMiL3-QTQN0

[jaybee]

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I want to add this video to the thread because I think it's good and as she goes through the process of chemical and biological descriptions of the Sacred Secretion.... Bible quotes are added revealing that hidden knowledge of these physical processes are in there....

Sacred Secretion / Christ Oil / True Anointing - HEAVEN ON EARTH(22:43)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=B3GjKTtSRrQ

4 Feb 2018
A video about the Sacred Secretion, Christ Oil and the True Anointing! What is the anointing oil? How does it parallel with the Resurrection of Jesus? This video highlights the inner biochemical process or alchemy of enlightenment. If humanity all realised their inner alchemy, we could create HEAVEN ON EARTH! The Sacred Secretion or Christ Oil has been known throughout different cultures as Kundalini energy and Activation, Merkabah Ascension, the Great Regeneration, the 3-Fold Enlightenment etc.

This process includes the birth of the monthly "Jesus seed" or "Christ Lunar Germ" born in the solar plexus every month when the moon is in your sun sign. This is the timing of the Sacred Secretion.

Isn't it amazing how there is always something new to learn.... it's taken me nearly 70 years to come across the information about the Moon and the seeding of the Secret Secretion / kundalini.... I missed 'my' special time earlier in July when the Moon was in my Star Sign...Leo...

I say 'missed' but it would have been going on anyway - and it isn't necessary to know all the details of this kind of stuff to feel it's benefits....but apparently awareness of the timing and process.... and focus on it can be a good thing and enhance it all..... so I will be marking all the Moon in Leo times on my calendar from now on - and try to make it a special time in some way - linking to Higher Purpose.... in various ways, whatever takes my fancy... I will 'go with the flow' ... no planning before hand - so it can be an organic experience... I'm looking forward to being aware of the Seeding....


Moon Phase Calendar

[jaybee]

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Re the Sacred Secretion - the Moon is going into astrological sign Leo this morning - this is the first time in my life I will have been aware of the 'seeding' of this process so I'm (quietly) excited and going to go out for a walk in a few minutes - - do some affirmations and focus on what will be happening in my brain/body... connecting to the Collective Christ Consciousness -


Moon Phase Calendar

[Heart to heart]

Last evening, after celebrating Lughnasad with friends around a fire, sharing stories and gifts, I could not sleep because a line kept running through my head. At 1am, still awake, I conceded to the prompt and wrote.

“You stood at the door of my heart - and I opened it wide - welcoming you in.
I was young then!
I did not know the pain you would bring - but I welcomed you in.
The years passed - the pain of experience cut deeply.
My heart bled - I cried out - but the Christ within upheld me - as the world fell apart.
The Light within expressed itself in sovereignty, love and compassion.
The voice sang it’s passion in story and rhyme.
Poetry sprang from the wellspring within,
Surfacing in heartfelt words from the silent communion with that Christ
Who gently came knocking so long ago.”

With love to all Avalonians
❤️to❤️

[Delight]

This might not EXACTLY fit But it is saying that there is no difference between us and ANY religious authority. Our Holy Spirit is where we turn for true teaching, NOT any religion. This speaker/teacher has a VERY WIDE comprehension of "esoteric" subjects.

This is just one of several on youtube.

Turn Away From Them. In Fact You Better Run

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t5zGiMdHWxw

[jaybee]

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A couple of days ago I was in a shop in Town - Home Bargains where the prices ARE good and in general below average - this post isn't to plug Home Bargains haha - but to set the scene -

So I'm at the Pay Out - my basket on the floor and I'm picking up the items and putting them on the conveyor belt top for them to move to the cashier + till - - there were a couple of young Polish men in front of me - looking like most young people nowadays out and about... casual clothes and tattoos...

Without saying a word one of them came and held my basket up for me at the level of the conveyor top so I didn't have to bend down to get the items.... smiling at me in a very kind way with a little bit of an amused cheeky expression - I was very touched but didn't want to over~do the thanks and restricted myself to saying....'bless you, thank you' then when the basket was empty he just went back to his friend and they left the shop...

So NOW we (finally) get on topic -I was very touched by his actions and when he was holding the basket I got a familiar kundalini buzz (Christ Consciousness buzz) and I expect he felt it too.... probably without naming it like I'm naming it here - - - his act of thoughtfulness and kindness (I believe) activated and expanded the Christ Consciousness within us both - and isn't it great that the connection and activation and expansion happens everywhere with everyone, in differing degrees - it isn't just for Yoga Practitioners - it's for everyone where ever they may be -


Speculation on the matter.... this is mainly where the 'Second Coming' - 'Christ Within' thing is taking place, IMO..... within the General Population as they (we) live out our lives ... the '''Work''' can take place anywhere anytime - and I think focusing on it and recognising it can take it up a notch... which we need right now to help it expand / grow .....

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something similar happened in Home Bargains to me a few months ago - I was getting my bags sorted after paying and a Polish Man told his teenage son to carry my bags out to the car for me - the son was happy to do it and again I was impressed at the casual but keen observations and desire to be of assistance ....

Random Acts of Kindness boosts Christ Consciousness for sure....