Stepping out of the shadows, no triggers here

**Faylin** · 3rd July 2024 00:39

Greer is cool. An icon for sure. St.Clair said the greys were likely biological organic technology or something.

I think even the most outlandish stuff isn't too far outside the realm of possability you know? And honestly i don't think beliving in aliens, clones is outlandish. Cloning wouldn't be outlawed in many countries if it wasn't real you know?

**Agape** · 3rd July 2024 17:33

Posted by Hym (here)
There once was a traveler who heard someone yelling from a tower.
No, it was not Rapunzel this traveler heard calling out for rescue, but it was someone seemingly loud enough to disrupt those in earshot to become concerned about the callers welfare.

When the traveler, later to be renowned for his insight, inspiration and his beautiful songs, finally understood the context of all that prayer calling out for salvation, he had one simple response:

He addressed the man in the tower with the questions,

"Why do you yell out so loud? Did you forget that God is with you?"

The traveler I recall was so renowned and loved by Hindus and Muslims alike, that upon his death they both planned to honor him by claiming his body for a funeral, yet each according to their own separate traditions.

As was his way....When they both arrived at the place of his passing all they found were flowers. I wonder if they came together and found common ground as to why neither group was given the gift of preparing and finalizing his remains....

Now for my tastes and most likely with complaints from no one, I'd prefer most any melody from a church bell. Not too loud. Soft and subtle, but in tune and memorable enough that anyone in ear shot would be inspired to write a song or two.

To paraphrase Khalil Gibran :"..complain not about the muezzin calling you from dream ..

complain to muezzin for leaving you alone
in prayer in his and yours darkest hour".

,💦

**Agape** · 3rd July 2024 17:50

Posted by Faylin (here)
Greer is cool. An icon for sure. St.Clair said the greys were likely biological organic technology or something.

I think even the most outlandish stuff isn't too far outside the realm of possability you know? And honestly i don't think beliving in aliens, clones is outlandish. Cloning wouldn't be outlawed in many countries if it wasn't real you know?

I think they are ancient and out of our human time.

Clones and drones like flying dragons, the terracota army, flying vimanas, the predecessors of our temples, technologies so powerful they had to be buried and withheld from humanity for epochs before they were revoked by dark magicians and scientists of dawn of modern humanity who bowed to no rules and crossed countless boundaries of universally acceptable laws ,
like nuclear krakens of the abyss,

notice the knights of truths

on every religious page

running self madly against the wall

of imperial tomb we live in

.

**Hym** · 3rd July 2024 23:23

Posted by Agape (here)

Posted by Hym (here)
There once was a traveler who heard someone yelling from a tower.
No, it was not Rapunzel this traveler heard calling out for rescue, but it was someone seemingly loud enough to disrupt those in earshot to become concerned about the callers welfare.

When the traveler, later to be renowned for his insight, inspiration and his beautiful songs, finally understood the context of all that prayer calling out for salvation, he had one simple response:

He addressed the man in the tower with the questions,

"Why do you yell out so loud? Did you forget that God is with you?"

The traveler I recall was so renowned and loved by Hindus and Muslims alike, that upon his death they both planned to honor him by claiming his body for a funeral, yet each according to their own separate traditions.

As was his way....When they both arrived at the place of his passing all they found were flowers. I wonder if they came together and found common ground as to why neither group was given the gift of preparing and finalizing his remains....

Now for my tastes and most likely with complaints from no one, I'd prefer most any melody from a church bell. Not too loud. Soft and subtle, but in tune and memorable enough that anyone in ear shot would be inspired to write a song or two.

To paraphrase Khalil Gibran :"..complain not about the muezzin calling you from dream ..

complain to muezzin for leaving you alone
in prayer in his and yours darkest hour".

,💦

Unless I am misinterpreting it, this tread is about maintaining cultural rights in a civil manner, without being triggered.

I did misinterpret this thread. Both Agape and I are off course here, even as the responses do seem to be appropriate, IF WE WERE POSTING ON AN APPROPRIATE THREAD. This one is about UFO disclosure and specifically Barry's amazing journey and resilience in the face of all the B.S..

I've saved my comments for placement somewhere more relevant.

**Agape** · 4th July 2024 15:15

Hym, so sorry this is not my or your thread , I know Barry for ages and he is not religiously biased to either side neither am I.

I was not being religious and just for my words being imperfect perhaps they were addressed to some other reader than yourself , can you consider that because and most certainly it wasn't a response to your posting, sorry if you've misread

Neither I'm talking to you now because this is not my thread.

If there's major problem about the muezzin please delete my post ok ?

I'm neither angry, insane, provocative or confused.

And I know Barry would not like his thread screwed by muezzin so please ..

**Hym** · 4th July 2024 18:29

Remarks removed by Hym, hymn-self, as they do not fit the topic.
Saved for an appropriate thread...

**Denise/Dizi** · 5th July 2024 00:15

I believe that "Stepping out of the shadows", was the terminology Barry used to mark his return to the public arena in the disclosure movement, after many years of spending time out of the movement in any public way... (For reasons that really were justifiable..)

After many years of his life working in the UFO field, he had collected and shared a great deal of information, and shared it openly in the "Voice Files"... Along with many interviews that showed up on youtube in the early days... as well as voice interviews. Everyone knew this was Barry's work, if they had done any research into the topic.

If I am not mistaken, I believe Greer got Barry's information, because he was going to be presenting at the disclosure event. Barry shared his information with Dr. Greer under the assumption that Barry himself would be included as one of those white hats in the "Disclosure movement"... But instead, what happened, was the material was taken, and is now being shared with zero mention of whom did all of the original footwork... Greer only slightly mentions that he got some information from "Whistleblowers", but never mentions ANY of them by name. Yet he happily asks for cash to learn about what "HE" has collected...

And to me, if this was a book that was being written? That would be theft of intellectual property. Or downright plagurism... Yes he shared it, but never under the guise that Steven Greer could claim it as his own material, or firsthand knowledge. Barry never made a penny when sharing his truth... But Greer surely does. And he asks for more and more, just to be in his presence.

This thread isn't about religion, it is about disclosure. But every now and again, Barry can't help but show his patriotism, and his frustration that all countries around the planet are in upheaval at the moment... His included..

**SPIRIT WOLF** · 5th July 2024 01:11

Greer may be 'cool' in your eyes but please do not forget that his achievements are all based on his 750+ whistleblowers and not from his own endeavors. We will never ever get to see who exactly these 750 individuals are, he has shown in interviews a small percentage and listed within his publications BUT at no point has anyone seen nor heard of the vast majority Greer claims to have 'on his team'. Now yes I do include myself as one of those 750 as all my data was taken direct to Greer in the summer of 2000 via special courier whilst he was at Glastonbury. Phone conversations between myself and his co-ordinators resulted in this method as I was still recovering from a minor stroke. The subject of PGLF and as Greer calls them PLF is the crux here.

REPLY TO FAYLIN

**SPIRIT WOLF** · 5th July 2024 01:16

Posted by Agape (here)
Hym, so sorry this is not my or your thread , I know Barry for ages and he is not religiously biased to either side neither am I.

I was not being religious and just for my words being imperfect perhaps they were addressed to some other reader than yourself , can you consider that because and most certainly it wasn't a response to your posting, sorry if you've misread

Neither I'm talking to you now because this is not my thread.

If there's major problem about the muezzin please delete my post ok ?

I'm neither angry, insane, provocative or confused.

And I know Barry would not like his thread screwed by muezzin so please ..

No problem, thanks Agape, the seeming divergent from disclosure to these mentions of Western societies being overrun my illegal immigration is a part of the 'great reset', a manufactured set of events which strangely enough takes the attention away from actual serious disclosure of the UFO/UAP subject.

**SPIRIT WOLF** · 5th July 2024 01:36

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
I believe that "Stepping out of the shadows", was the terminology Barry used to mark his return to the public arena in the disclosure movement, after many years of spending time out of the movement in any public way... (For reasons that really were justifiable..)

After many years of his life working in the UFO field, he had collected and shared a great deal of information, and shared it openly in the "Voice Files"... Along with many interviews that showed up on youtube in the early days... as well as voice interviews. Everyone knew this was Barry's work, if they had done any research into the topic.

If I am not mistaken, I believe Greer got Barry's information, because he was going to be presenting at the disclosure event. Barry shared his information with Dr. Greer under the assumption that Barry himself would be included as one of those white hats in the "Disclosure movement"... But instead, what happened, was the material was taken, and is now being shared with zero mention of whom did all of the original footwork... Greer only slightly mentions that he got some information from "Whistleblowers", but never mentions ANY of them by name. Yet he happily asks for cash to learn about what "HE" has collected...

And to me, if this was a book that was being written? That would be theft of intellectual property. Or downright plagurism... Yes he shared it, but never under the guise that Steven Greer could claim it as his own material, or firsthand knowledge. Barry never made a penny when sharing his truth... But Greer surely does. And he asks for more and more, just to be in his presence.

This thread isn't about religion, it is about disclosure. But every now and again, Barry can't help but show his patriotism, and his frustration that all countries around the planet are in upheaval at the moment... His included..

Many thanks Denise. Yes although I may appear to go off topic and rant even about the state of this country(UK) and Western Europe in general, is because I am very very Patriotic and can see clearly the demise of the British values, culture, religion and heritage by unchecked mass illegal immigration.I personally have no problem with other religions BUT I DO with the current scene of activists for Islam trying their best to wreck this and other countries. Terrorists have no place here, and as stated before if the governments, the police do not get rid of these Islamic terrorists the us Patriots will.

I still have much to say and indeed disclose here on this forum, still many areas I need to state openly which have been kept away from public disclosure due to time elements. Not many here at Avalon know me, fewer know me well. If anyone decides to 'check me out' they will see that I was very pro-active and high profile during the 70s with many of my investigations appearing within the pages of FSR magazine. Since 1979 my work, etc was mentioned, by colleagues accounting, portrayed in over 45 books globally right up to date. Now I'm seen as 'that little old guy from the UK' with a ufo past.

Although a little fish in a big ufology pond I can state that yes being that little old guy I still have a unique skill set and direct experiences in a number of fields that are of interest and usefulness by a number a countries. Whilst associates here in UK wish to keep me safe I cannot say the same for US and especially Eastern countries whom might view my skill set as being useful to them also but likewise recognise the fact that my skil set could potentially become a danger to those countries. It is what has kept me alive and kicking all these years. NO ONE has the full story, maybe you never will. All I'm going to say here is I will share with you all what will not compromise myself or my associates. It has been a very long bumpy road with no end in sight, you are all welcome to join me on that journey.

**Blastolabs** · 5th July 2024 02:21

Greer lost all respect from me for two reasons that are really the same thing.

1) In his recent high budget movie about free energy he laughs about multiple inventors that have contacted him being killed soon after, and blames it on them being greedy.

2.) A wise whistleblower was communicating with him and asked for complete anonymity. The whistle blower provided fake contact info as a test of Greer. That fake contact information ended up leaking.

I'm not sure if Greer is consciously aware of this, but his laughing and criticizing multiple people who he likely got killed is inexcusable.

His vibes have always been way off any anyone who is empathic reading this knows exactly what I mean

Also thank you Denise, I felt the need to say what you said, but you did it far better than I ever could have.

**Hym** · 5th July 2024 05:41

It is quite obvious that I Did Forget that I had read Barry's 1st post on This Thread.

Note to myself:

RE-READ THE BEGINNING POST TO ALL THREADS BEFORE COMMENTING....

And my apologies for not doing so.

I have removed the post entirely, as it was way out of context. Understanding, READING AGAIN, the intent of this subject matter, the purpose of the thread that I neglected to check before I went off on a "meaningful"

tangent. Funny this, a member who constantly posts using tangental explorations from personal experience, finally apologizing for doing so.

I'll post a comment or two later, along with all of the others here that I'm grateful to be able to read, because I share what I view as a common stand against being forced to live in a society that imposes oppressive religious Noise upon the lives of all.

**Agape** · 5th July 2024 06:16

Suppose the "truth" in between "us" and "them" is pale gray ( light n grey ) , nearly invisible to our sensory perception

and different from our biological order
so that it could cut your head split
if not being very careful,

and it can not be "explained to humanity"
under current situation on planet Earth

that no matter how much analytical effort
and information processing do we perform

the "truth" can't be pronounced

= [Inserting equaliser]

unless it can be shown by their own means

there always either is or is not good reason for explaining more about it while we are all getting nowhere with it
and waiting what comes,

And I also see something "clearcut" like the talk goes forever then everything happens before we realise .

then we are on the next level of existence

and the confusion is over.

Because the amount of confusion, ignorance and mental illness in current, lasting version of humanity is overwhelming , hence also uncontrollable violance, see what's happening in the middle East ,
giant rollercoster of mental issues spinning to mad wars

💦

There's no religion or religious authority who could directly also prove they speak to Allah or extraterrestrials

so shall we all agree any of you can do that

🦩

**Agape** · 6th July 2024 11:55

In the cacophony of great and faint Voices calling us to prayer, calling upon us for Prayer , the one truth that pulls us out and inside to the state of thoroughly

speechless, after

passing through whisper corridors

https://www.aam-us.org/2020/01/01/sp...y-in-learning/

Our thoughts hanging out
in the Wind
Like prayer flags

🪷

**SPIRIT WOLF** · 7th July 2024 02:00

PATRIOTS OF ENGLAND STAND TALL AND PROUD TO REMOVE THESE DANGERS TO OUR COUNTRY

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UfENqjkn_0

**SPIRIT WOLF** · 9th July 2024 03:16

The beginning of taking control back.................................

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CCHcy_nSVL4

**SPIRIT WOLF** · 12th July 2024 03:29

A call to arms, UK and USA, true PATRIOTS kindly all stand shoulder to shoulder and push these damn illegals out of our nations, they are destroying our values, customs, heritage, OUR WAY OF LIFE in the West. Governments and police do not lift a finger and are pushing for this RESET, WE MUST STOP THE ROT