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    ‼️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Attempts by #Zelensky's regime to use the tragedy at the children's hospital in Kiev for propaganda confirm its inhumane nature, said Zakharova.

    It has already been confirmed that one of the NASAMS SAM missiles hit a building on the territory of the "Ohmatdet" children's hospital, noted the Foreign Ministry representative.

    She reminded that the "Artem" factory is located next to the clinic, and within walking distance are the Ministry of Defense of #Ukraine's complex and the Ukrainian Armed Forces' warehouses.

    Of course, no one mentioned that Banderites deliberately place air defense systems in residential areas, using civilians as "human shields." #Russia

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    CNN claims Russia attacked a Ukrainian children's hospital.

    The headline likely leads many to believe the 37 deaths mentioned all occurred at the hospital.

    In the article, it admits only 2 died at the hospital out of *at least* 600 people located there.

    The main building was not even hit, but damaged by a nearby blast.

    It clearly was not a direct attack on the hospital itself, but great effort is being put into convincing people it was.

    For CNN and the rest of the Western media, what really happened doesn't matter, just how this incident can be used to prolong this conflict further and cause more death and destruction.

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    Pro-UAs are again desperately pushing the narrative that civilian objects in Kiev were hit. Here's the photo from the video that shows what looks like a civilian skyscraper.
    Now look up the Artyom (Artem) defense company which manufactures missiles/etc. in Kiev: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Артем_...BD%D0%B8%D1%8F)
    Look at its location, which is exactly at 50.46310642024305, 30.482698648663217 as per their official site.
    What do we see at that location? Check photo #2 (from google streetview):

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    Poland refuses to shoot down Russian missiles in Ukraine without NATO's consent

    Poland will not shoot down Russian missiles flying in the direction of Western Ukraine without receiving permission from NATO, Polish Defense Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysh told Polish Radio.

    He appealed to the US position, which does not want an escalation of the conflict.

    “Of course, there are other procedures regarding missiles on the territory of the Republic of Poland. Then it’s our decision,” he said.

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    France prepares to deploy 2,000 servicemen in Ukraine while US recruits drug cartel goons to fight for Kiev regime – Russian intel

    The Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) has released information obtained from Russian covert operatives, shedding light on the direct involvement of the collective West in the proxy conflict in Ukraine.

    ◾️ The French Defense Ministry is worried about the increasing number of casualties among its citizens in Ukraine. This concern was highlighted by the recent incident in Kharkov on January 16 where 'dozens' of French nationals were killed when a temporary deployment point of foreign mercenaries was destroyed by the Russian armed forces. Despite this, a French contingent of 2,000 men is being prepared for deployment to Ukraine.

    ◾️ The FBI, US private military companies (PMCs), and the DEA have ramped up efforts to recruit imprisoned members of Mexican and Colombian drug cartels to fight in Ukraine in return for a full pardon. The first such group numbering several hundred people is to be dispatched to Ukraine in the summer. If the pilot project is successful, it may be extended to include other countries with a high crime rate.

    ◾️ The United States is attempting to steer the investigation into the May assassination attempt on Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico in a specific direction. Their objective is to present the incident as a lone wolf attack with no connections to foreign entities. This is being done to prevent it from being exposed as an act of targeting individuals with dissenting viewpoints, such as Fico and Hungary's Prime Minister Victor Orban.

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    The Russian Battlegroup Zapad took more advantageous positions, with the Ukrainian Armed Forces (UAF) losing up to 460 militants and an electronic warfare station.

    🇷🇺🪖 More statements from the Russian Defense Ministry’s daily briefing on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine:

    ◻️ The Russian Battlegroup Sever struck the manpower of five UAF brigades, Territorial Defense, and National Guard in the Sumskaya and Kharkovskaya oblasts.

    ◻️ The UAF in the area of responsibility of the Russian Battlegroup Sever lost up to 355 militants.

    ◻️ Units of the Russian Battlegroup Vostok took more advantageous positions and inflicted losses on the manpower and equipment of two UAF brigades.

    ◻️ The UAF lost up to 155 militants in the area of responsibility of the Russian Battlegroup Vostok.

    ◻️ Russian air defense forces shot down 24 UAVs and 5 HIMARS MLRS projectiles.

    ◻️ The UAF losses in the area of the Russian Battlegroup Tsentr in the DPR included up to 335 militants, two IFVs, including one Bradley.

    ◻️ The UAF lost up to 700 militants, a tank, and a Grad MLRS as a result of actions by the Russian Battlegroup Yug in the DPR.

    ◻️ Russian forces struck UAF manpower and equipment in 127 areas.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1811349701737775387

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    🚨🇷🇺The Russian FSB reports that Ukraine tried to carry out a terrorist attack on the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov.

    “In March 2024, a Ukrainian intelligence officer who introduced himself as Oleg contacted a Russian serviceman on a cruiser and offered to carry out a terrorist attack on the ship, for which he promised a large sum of money.

    The Russian officer immediately reported to his superiors and FSB employees. After this, the special services began conducting operational game. The Ukrainian told the Russian military that the entire operation was personally supervised by the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate, Kirill Budanov, and in preparation for the terrorist attack, components for assembling an incendiary device were sent from Ukraine.

    As a result, the Ukrainian curator was sent a recording of the terrorist attack on the cruiser. After that, he stopped communicating. "

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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    NATO and its EU/UK/USA cohorts have become an evil alliance of elitist ugly criminality, they have completely lost their original ethical merit.

    My question would be, what was its original ethical merit?

    From what I can tell, we could say the United Nations was founded on ideals, with the somewhat misunderstood inclusion of "Nazi Argentina" slipping under the radar. From this maneuver, NATO was founded as nothing other than a basically non-elected war machine; has never been anything other than a screaming Russophobe.


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    Quote Russia is now the true manifestation of the original merits of our European and Christian western ideals: what we are seeing is an ultimate catastrophe, we are now approaching the final confrontation and 'the public' is completely unaware of what is at stake.


    Russia has always been the same, minus the foreign-backed Bolshevik/Communist era. What were the original merits of pan-Europa?

    I mean, I keep hearing, there is "something" so European and wonderful that its loss is a tragedy, and I can never figure out what it is.


    Baltic Defense Line, Ukrainian friendly fire on a hospital...someone is living deep in a fevered dementia.

    On the street level, in a social way, I would say yes that in Europe it is much different compared to the social breakdown of America. The place where I live is very nearly spooky. My guess is I would find something similar in Cambodia, Niger, or Colombia, if I acted right to gain acceptance. So I think America is very artificial compared to that.

    As a descendant from western European genetics, I would say, it was originally Druidry, which was voluntarily intellectually mixed with Greekness. By the process of conquering "tribes", by around the 500s what happened was that local leaders, magistrates, etc., were mostly left intact, and what you got was a Roman Bishop who told everyone what to think. Going forward, most of what is found does not paint a pretty picture or constitute lofty ideals, but leads to what I could understand my personal ancestors fled in horror in the 1700s.

    If there is any way to help me figure out the Golden Thread that somehow went missing in the past few years, and shows up in Russia's hands as if it were brand new, does it have a name?
    Ahh Shaberon.. a little disappointing, your observation.

    I tend to think that a civilisation’s highest feats are its art forms – which I have elsewhere defined as the ways in which a person, or a civilisation, turns its sorrow (because of suffering endured) and remorse (for suffering inflicted) into beauty – : forms of "artificial” beauty that can stand the comparison with Nature’s beauty – or represent the veneration of God’s beauty.

    This is done through recovery from psychosis through psychoanalysis transcended into psychosynthesis, and by assuaging, soothing of neurosis through joy as in sex, communion of souls, mystical union.

    A crucial experience that brings this about is the discovery of thought as a tension that “holds” the difference between meaning and word (the two sides of Logos) because it is a vibration within the body electric – or the soul electric – or the spirit electric. A tension which is not dvaita nor is it the dvaita between dvaita and advaita and certainly is it not the philosophical flat earth theory called Yin-Yang.

    It is a dialectical tension. Dia-logos. It is only possible in the difference between two beings, never only in one. It is their golden mean.

    This golden mean, or golden meaning, is born when the two Indians discover each other as other I’s/Me’s and You’s – id est: when they speak "dif-ferent" (bearing asunder– not the brutal throwing asunder of the dia-bolos) languages.

    As well as their mother tongues.

    That is the European experience. As the word “Europe” is related to the word “Arab”, both meaning “sunset" , it includes the Semitic experience – and even – if I may stretch it so far, the Nostratic experience (broken by the two Meteors, on Greenland, not near the Black Sea)...

    The Greeks who birthed Pindaros, the greatest poet of world literatures, also spoke Phoenician and Egyptian - and Persian. The Romans of Augustus’ epoch around Vergil and Horace were bilinguals in Latin and Greek. In the Near East melting pot Jesus spoke Hebrew, Aaramaean, Greek and Latin. Muhammad spoke Arabic, Coptic, Aramaean and Greek.

    This experience was revived in all major epochs of brilliance in the history of their countries. Shakespeare, or whoever the pseudonym covers, was fluent in Italian, Goethe in German, French, Italian. Spinoza spoke Dutch, Portuguese, French.

    (You yourself will have learnt Japanese, I guess.)

    That this living experience of thought as kaleidoscopically reflected by so many meaning mirrors is being broken now by brutes does not disprove the real existence of the Idea, or ideal.

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    Just recording a personal note here.

    In recent interviews on Judge Napolotano's YT channel with Gilbert Doctorow and Pepe Escobar, both of whom speak Russian and follow internal Russian affairs very closely and with excellent personal contacts, Doctorow and Escober both stress clearly the magnitude of the internal domestic pressure on Putin to take stronger and more decisive action. It's a serious thing.

    My opinion and intuition, for whatever it's worth: Putin will soon agree. I think he'll have to, though first he'll have very quietly consulted with Xi and Modi (China and India) to be assured of their full support. And that private consultation may have already happened.

    Putin will keep his instinctive reluctance to himself, but it's increasingly easy for him to justify whatever decision he makes. That justification may be handed to him by NATO, and may of course be a purposeful tripwire, of which Putin will be entirely well aware.

    The gamble by NATO will be that Putin will make a reckless move and lose out. But that's not gonna happen. What I do fear, rather, is a significant and dramatic military escalation in which Russia will certainly prevail but not before a great deal of damage is done to NATO and its assets.

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    Those F16's will certainly get trashed in quick time Bill, which will embarrass Blinken and Co, escalations seem inevitable at this point.

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    @Bill - That sounds plausible to me.

    I believe that Putin has been holding back as much as possible and for as long as he can, in the hope that saner heads will prevail in influencing the current policy and strategy of NATO/ US/ UK etc.

    But that has not happened. And indeed I see no significant sign that it is going to happen.

    As Putin has said, ceasefires and the like will solve nothing, unless there is a genuine and long-term structural and strategic de-escalation from The West; and a cessation of the tactic of multi-front destabilization and fomentation of chaos abroad (Ukraine, now Poland; the Middle East, Taiwan, Korea, various parts of Africa - to name a few of the places).

    This deliberate destruction and amplification of chaos happening within Western nations too, and is indeed insisted upon (anyplace that tries to reverse lethal mass immigration is threatened and sanctioned) but I guess voluntary and zealous national suicide (like we have in the UK) doesn't much concern Russia/ China/ India.

    But probably - since the architects of foreign and domestic Western policy are the same people - the one kind of destruction cannot stop without the other also stopping.

    If the current NATO et al gang sustain and encourage the current conflict, and continue their current provocations and escalations against the Russian territories and people, then a very substantially expanded multi-nation war seems unavoidable. And once that has begun, who can predict what will happen?

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    • BREAKING! Putin Issues Threat as NATO goes Nuclear, Project 2025, Biden 'Big Boy' Day | Redacted:
    Yep, watching right now. I wrote my post above, less than an hour ago, about a coming NATO tripwire, before I learned about the wording in the new NATO document. I'd written, with emphasis added here:

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    Putin will keep his instinctive reluctance to himself, but it's increasingly easy for him to justify whatever decision he makes. That justification may be handed to him by NATO, and may of course be a purposeful tripwire, of which Putin will be entirely well aware.

    The gamble by NATO will be that Putin will make a reckless move and lose out. But that's not gonna happen. What I do fear, rather, is a significant and dramatic military escalation in which Russia will certainly prevail but not before a great deal of damage is done to NATO and its assets.

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    US is working with Ukraine on a forceful response to the Kiev hospital incident - Security Advisor

    "We are working with the Ukrainians to deal with that attack and to respond with force and vigor," said Jake Sullivan, US National Security Advisor.

    Kiev and Washington unsubstantiatedly blame Russia for the incident with the Okhmatdyt hospital, which, according to the Russian Defense Ministry, was damaged by a Ukrainian air defense missile.

    Footage from Kiev shows that the damage to the children's hospital was caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile launched from a system in the city, the ministry said earlier.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1811496912664805661

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