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    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    It makes sense what you're saying Bill, unless there was no bullet. Was there anybody hit behind him, from the stray bullet?
    Someone was hit, in the head, brain matter blown out, and killed, from one of the five or so initial shots. Two other spectators were seriously injured.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    What I can see from this video, originally posted by Ravenlocke, is the blond lady with a maga cap on right behind Trump, drops or ducks. Not even 30 seconds after that, nobody seems horrified by the brain matter scattered all over the place.

    Shouldn't be some kind of blood spraying behind Trump?
    From CBS on this page. (There are other sources. It's been widely reported.)

    ~~~
    Dr. Jim Sweetland, an emergency room physician who was at the rally and witnessed the shooting, told CBS News by phone that he administered first aid to a man who had sustained a gunshot wound to the head.

    "He was shot in the head, his body was twisted around and wedged between two benches that were in the stands," Sweetland said. "He was not breathing, he did not have a pulse. He appeared gravely ill."

    With the help of three people, Sweetland said he was able to get the victim onto a bench and then began administering CPR and chest compressions.

    "There was a lot of blood that was spilt on the stands where he lay, as well as brain matter," Sweetland said.
    The medical physician who tried to help was the one in this video posted here,

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1622492


    and here it is again, I think he looks upset to me.

    He starts talking about three seconds in the video.


    https://x.com/SenoreAmore/status/1812285998963048748

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    Quote Posted by Perdido (here)
    🚨🚨🚨Trump just started wearing a bulletproof vest as advised by his security detail. It saved his life!! He took a shot to the chest!!🔥🔥🔥

    https://x.com/CaptCoronado/status/1812283824748872152
    I’m not convinced that’s a bullet hole. It is may be blood from the ear wound. A liquid on dark blue material turns the blue almost black. The black can then appear to be a hole or a tear.

    Trump himself said he was hit in the ear. Is he playing it down? Was he hit in the chest and a fragment struck his ear? I don’t know.

    But, again, I’m not convinced from this photo what we see is a bullet hole.

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    We were talking about The Young Turks on the US election thread yesterday. Below is a 3 minute update from Cenk Uygur, who has Hardcore Democrat indelibly embedded in his DNA.

    But respect to the man
    , as he describes Trump as brave and heroic in the way he responded immediately after having very nearly been killed.


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    If he had been hit in the chest that is where his hand would have instinctively gone, not his ear. He winced and his hand went straight to his ear.
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    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    Not even 30 seconds after that, nobody seems horrified by the brain matter scattered all over the place.
    There was not "brain matter scattered all over the place."

    There was only one such victim, whose body was then jammed down between a couple of the bleachers from the way I recall the reports linked above.
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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    [QUOTE“Trump wears the armor of God.”
    Coincidentally I was writing an article today about how some people in certain circumstances seem to be impervious to physical attack. The Gnostics called it the robe of light but there are many accounts in various spiritual conditions.

    The whole thing does not make sense to me. This is a bullet from an AR15 like rifle and should be doing far more damage even if it just grazed his ear and with the angle of his head and the trajectory of the bullet I question why it has not struck him further on his head. I can see why some people will interpret this as a staged event. But I do believe in divine intervention as well.

    Conspiracy theorists on all sides will have a field day with this
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    If he had been hit in the chest that is where his hand would have instinctively gone, not his ear. He winced and his hand went straight to his ear.
    If he was hit in both places, one tearing tissue, and the other merely percussive, it doesn't surprise me that his torn ear got the first reaction
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    Quote Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
    This is a bullet from an AR15 like rifle and should be doing far more damage
    Shooting a moving target at (as I understand the reports) a few hundred yards range with accuracy down to perhaps 3 or 4 inches would require a better shot than I ever was (which admittedly isn't saying much).

    Also I'd expect such ammo to require a bit resistance more than just an earlobe to cause it to start breaking up and really tearing into tissue.

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    P.S. -- On further analysis in my Post #160, below, the shot was about 400 feet, not "a few hundred yards".
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    https://x.com/SenoreAmore/status/1812327312479662527

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
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    Great the FBI is investigating the attempted murder of Trump. That makes me feel better. Not.

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    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    Not even 30 seconds after that, nobody seems horrified by the brain matter scattered all over the place.
    There was not "brain matter scattered all over the place."

    There was only one such victim, whose body was then jammed down between a couple of the bleachers from the way I recall the reports linked above.
    The damage control no longer works, I'm sure lots of people can smell the shadows from a mile, even if they don't post about it so metadata for ever lost. It was actually your colleague Bill who initially used the "brain matter all over the place" expression.

    I truly hope Trump to be the man so many people here place their trust in.

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
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    Not even 30 seconds after that, nobody seems horrified by the brain matter scattered all over the place.
    There was not "brain matter scattered all over the place."

    There was only one such victim, whose body was then jammed down between a couple of the bleachers from the way I recall the reports linked above.
    The damage control no longer works, I'm sure lots of people can smell the shadows from a mile, even if they don't post about it so metadata for ever lost. It was actually your colleague Bill who initially used the "brain matter all over the place" expression.

    I truly hope Trump to be the man so many people here place their trust in.
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    ~~~
    One passage on CBS showed the competing impulses felt in a pressurized situation. “We’re being very careful” in what we can report, network anchor Adriana Diaz said. That was followed immediately by a colleague passing on an eyewitness account of “a man shot with brain matter on the ground.”
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    This is a bullet from an AR15 like rifle and should be doing far more damage
    Shooting a moving target at (as I understand the reports) a few hundred yards range with accuracy down to perhaps 3 or 4 inches would require a better shot than I ever was (which admittedly isn't saying much).

    Also I'd expect such ammo to require a bit resistance more than just an earlobe to cause it to start breaking up and really tearing into tissue.
    I get your point about the earlobe but the bullet breaking up is not the only factor. They travel at such a high velocity that they land with a massive shock wave. This is an article that is trying to promote gun control but it does show how much more powerful is an AR15. A relevant example within the article is when it hit the thumb and mangled up the whole hand.

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    The more I think about this the more I'm thinking that there almost certainly had to be a designed breach in the security near where the shooter arrived on scene and then was able to climb up on the building.
    Unfortunately, I'd be admitting to the excessive number of hours I've spent on "conspiracy theories" if I admitted that I find your hypothesis credible.

    Also, and also unfortunately, I trust that the FBI will not give any such hypothesis as yours a fair hearing.

    ... maybe it's just as well that Trump doesn't have a "Full Presidential Detail".
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    Just published\ by the New York Post as an 'exclusive'. We have to be careful about this (a couple of hours ago, a different name was being reported), but what we're all trying to do here is to collect and share what we believe may be good information. Avalon members are particularly good at this.

    https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news/thomas-matthew-crooks-idd-as-gunman-who-shot-trump-during-pa-rally

    Thomas Matthew Crooks ID’d as gunman who shot Trump during Pa. rally

    The gunman who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump Saturday was identified as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, sources told The Post.

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    So that's another thing to look for and check out between us. Let's gather together the dots to connect and then do that job as carefully as we can. We're good at this.

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    Bill Ryan: Not quite ready for an Oscar but you're definitely in line for a DIC. Metadata forever lost, remember that.

    PS. Don't forget to ban me from this discussion as well, otherwise it might get steered in the undesired direction.

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    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    What I can see from this video, originally posted by Ravenlocke, is the blond lady with a maga cap on right behind Trump, drops or ducks. Not even 30 seconds after that, nobody seems horrified by the brain matter scattered all over the place.

    Shouldn't be some kind of blood spraying behind Trump?
    An aside to the post and we also had Vincent Fusca aka JFK Jr in the crowd.

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