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    This podcaster, Dr. Suneel Dhand, discusses his opinion of Trump's remarkable cognitive capacity and resilience for his age, in the face of danger:

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    ...

    ... maybe there is another inside job within the inside job:

    IF this picture is a genuine, unadulterated frame from a high speed camera, then that bullet never grazed Trump's right ear... in that case, what got Trump his ear-piercing job?

    Maybe that bullet was never intended to hit Trump... just appear to have been aimed at him... that's a false flag.


    Click on picture for larger size.

    It would help to find out where the other injured individuals were located

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    My view right now, still very much fluid and open to new information, is something like 40-60 in that order. Cui Bono is carrying more and more weight every hour.
    Like many others here (I suspect!) I've not been able to catch up on all the Avalon posts and the avalanche of detailed analyses (in articles and videos) all over the net. But I'm doing my best.

    I wanted to post this personal update that my 40-60 view yesterday is now at about 10-90. Not 'staged' (we all need to be careful about what most understand by that theatrical word), but a set-up by at least a faction of the SS team, orchestrated at a senior level, to allow this real shooting to happen.
    For me, it's now 0-100. Close to the end of Monday here, I've become certain there was inside complicity.

    Whether we'll ever get to know exactly what happened, I'm not so confident. Even now, the waters about JFK, 9/11, the Las Vegas shooting (remember that??) and much else are still somewhat muddied, and there's no formal closure in sight. But that doesn't prevent us each from studying all the publicly available evidence and coming to our own conclusions.
    Yes, 100% me too, and it's a hop skip and a jump from insider involvement to complete scripted organization of every facet of this traumatic show.

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    A blessing or a Curse ?

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    Delight/ i like many have not caught up on much here in this long and growing thread .

    I am always fascinated and perturbed to hear your friends take on Trump. Where was I when he was in office for 4 years. What dream was I in?

    To see him cross boundaries with Kim Jung in N Korea, The Saudis, Putin, China, see the Abraham accords, see energy independence, low gas prices. To actually see and experience low gas prices and no inflation. NAFTA ended, new trade deals AND NO WARS.

    How has this monster picture been cultivated of Trump? Did he do it himself from crass women comments? Really ? Because he was rich, a playboy of sorts a PT Barnum etc.

    Or was it a very smart stradegy of a slow boil MSMedia brainwashing op aimed at the sort of pre primed and susceptible people , already set to a hate and jealousy, him being white , privileged and so on. Does that make him a bad man?
    I never had an opinion of him prior to him being elected but i guess it leaned to the negative due to assumptions as similar to most very rich people. But then I saw an amazing 4 years

    How did we get to this Hitler comparison and your friends very disturbing hate of him? Where is this substantiated in actuality ?.
    I remember seeing a speech by Trump in which I tricked my lib friend that it was Obamas speech. He bought it , praising it as if it was great words by Obama.

    Trump ordered the kill of one terror suspect. Thats it. Bush Clinton Obama Biden and Newland are responsible for Millions in Iraq and other involvements such as Libya and Ukraine in 2014.
    But Trump is the hitler?

    Please someone, explain?? And how will this ever be repaired and brought back to a measured reality?

    Im concerned for us all.No matter what plays out, a hatred has been fomented that will not extinguish

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    This is a 5 minute attempt to combine some different camera angles.

    Real-Time Video Compilation: Trump Assassination Attempt

    https://rumble.com/v573orx--real-tim...n-attempt.html


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    This is absolutely incredible (and disturbing).
    There were actually law enforcement in the building the shooter shot Trump from, it was being used as a "staging area" How ironic huh? this is beyond ridiculous!!!!!
    The head of the Secret Service said today that the secret service is 100% responsible for what happened and that the buck stops with her, then she says she will absolutely not resign. She's a piece of crap in my opinion, her arrogance is obvious.

    This is astonishing!!!!!

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    And, with that level of certainty, the chorus of voices calling for, say, RFK jr being given Secret Service protection sounds ironically dark.
    I agree.
    Weaponized DOJ and Justice system didn't work.
    They already manipulated the secret service to not protect Biden's only real competition for the Democrat candidacy RFK jr.
    With this track record is it a stretch for Obama's weaponized FBI and secret service to go to these lengths?
    The suspicious circumstances surrounding this shooting certainly help to present this picture.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Light relief, just for a moment, in the context of an extremely serious subject.

    Here's the short viral video of Putin's and Xi's two bodyguards at their meeting on 20 May, 3 months ago. Natali Morris of Redacted showed the start of it again just now (their whole program today is about the Trump event, the first time they've devoted an entire program to one incident). She said they look as if they've been grown in a lab, and have metal for breakfast.

    But those are the kinds of people you'd want to have in your security team all around you. That bit's NOT a joke.

    USA and western policies and actions have driven these global powers together. No surprise there. Yet media wants us to be incredulous. How could that happen……? They would have us ask ourselves. Duh.

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    Remember the show "The First 48 Hours"? well, my 48hrs is up.

    This is so idiotic and obvious that elements of the SS and local LE were involved in this shooting that I think I'm about done posting in this thread.
    They gave this shooter access, the necessary time to set up, and such a clear and easy shot I think they really thought he was capable and would kill Trump.
    The other part of the plan in my opinion is they also knew the sniper near Trump would kill the shooter immediately once the firing began and hopefully after the shooter killed Trump. The sniper near Trump was their fail safe regardless. Dead men tell no tales.

    Even though Kimberly Cheatle, head of the SS has taken responsibility for what happened and says the buck stops with her but is refusing to resign, she (and others) will throw local LE under the bus. They probably already have a plan to connect the shooter to one or two local LE people to make it look like a small group of individuals conspired together to kill Trump. This is really the only way Kimberly Cheatle can worm her way out of this so to speak. She is pretty arrogant though, perhaps she thinks she's above the law like the rest of the evil critter demons surrounding her and won't be held accountable for anything no matter what.

    The way many top Dems are acting right now is very suspicious, they are being way to nice and are somewhat waving a white flag of truce (for now). Just today RFK Jr. got SS protection approval, Trumps classified docs case got dismissed, Morning Joe got put in time out, etc etc. they even cancelled the riots and street fires at the Republican Convention!

    Make no mistake though, the demons are just doing a little damage control, regrouping, and devising a new route for disaster!

    I may be wrong about this but I don't think I'm too far off.
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    10 minute video. Jimmy Dore and a panel discussing the shooter's background.

    One very interesting tidbit: the kid was in a BlackRock ad. Looks like BlackRock have decided to pull the ad, but you can watch it in this video:

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    • Biden Doesn’t Stand A Chance Against This Image!:
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    1. The shooter was obviously allowed in and allowed to shoot 5-7 times before being killed. That means the government (police, secret service, other agencies) was in it.
    2. The lack of close by victims in the videos (regardless of what the media tells us) suggests there were no real bullets, blanks most likely. That means, the assassination was staged, made to look like Trump survived an attempt on his life. That also means the blood was fake and either Trump or one of the agents covering him, popped a paint container and voila!
    3. The victim who got shot in the head (if that is true) was nowhere near Trump and could have been planned to enforce the idea of stray bullets.

    Now, because both Trump and the government colluded in this assassination staging, means that Trump has been completely assimilated by the cabal, will be heavily propped and endorsed to become the next president and all the madness that follows will be fell for hook, line and sinker. Think wars, digital ID, Orwell restrictions, CBDC.

    And the "beauty" of it all is, the people will be the ones asking for Trump!

    Watch the damage control taking place and the hypotheses that are being ridiculed in the MSM and social media platforms and you'll get to the truth.

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    .

    Trump looked tired and pensive at the RNC gathering - as well he might - I hope he takes some time .... like at least a couple of weeks ...to rest and recuperate and get over the shock of it all...

    I liked the way the Pastor did a rather good impression of Trump before the prayer - nice touch

    Pastor James Roemke Cracks Trump Up Doing Impression Of Him Delivering Prayer At The RNC(3:10)


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    A SECOND SHOOTER ?

    What water tower is this woman talking about ?


    3 Eyewitnesses to a SECOND Shooter in the Water Tower Have Emerged

    https://rumble.com/v574nzh-3-eyewitn...e-emerged.html


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    "As Philip Roth lamented,"the American novelist “has his hands full in trying to understand, and then describe, and then make credible much of the American reality”. And that was prior to Trump, who took America into new realms of the bizarre, beyond shame, beyond rules, beyond what previously defined the real."


    Is this what a second Trump presidency will be like?’ – our art critic on the chilling shooting image

    In the heat of the assassination attempt, the bloodied ex-president’s defiance created a picture that echoes works of frontier heroism and religious resurrection. Could it be a warning of what is to come?

    Jonathan Jones
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    This breaks your heart. Or at least it does if you oppose the politics of Donald Trump. For with one image, he may have won the 2024 US presidential election. Photographer Evan Vucci captured it, and has rightly won praise for it, but we should acknowledge that it was Trump who made it. And he made it with presence of mind and courage.

    Red blood pools on his ear and stains his face. No wonder some people on social media want to pretend to themselves that the shooting was faked. For the reality, which any rational observer can clearly see, is that in this moment Trump is defying death. He can’t completely know that he’s OK. A bullet has drawn blood from his ear, close to his brain. As he rises from where he initially took cover, with black-clad sunglass-wearing Secret Service agents trying to enfold him, he makes an eloquent gesture of defiance: a clenched fist raised in the air, his arm straight up like a flagpole. His mouth is open in a shout: the words he uttered were “Fight, fight, fight,” words that seem chosen as if they might be his last. Who is he telling to fight? Against what?

    The US flag is the best-designed in the world, its beauty striking in any setting. Here it is surrounded by violence and fear
    He uses the rhetoric of struggle and division he always has, but with a new urgency as he calls on America to fight in his name, over his body. And he has instantly thought out how to communicate this visually. The raised fist is traditionally a symbol of the left, which became famous as the sign of Republican resistance to Franco in the Spanish civil war: Joan Miró’s 1937 poster Aidez l’Espagne portrays a defiant worker with a massively enlarged arm raised in this very same fist salute. So Trump could almost be saying “No pasarán!” in an unlikely appropriation of La Pasionaria. Since the 1930s this gesture of the left has been revived in many contexts, from the civil rights movement to Ukraine, yet this gesture has also been co-opted by the far right: white supremacists use a white clenched fist against a black background to symbolise “white rights”.

    Symbol of the left … Joan Miró’s 1937 poster.
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    Symbol of the left … Joan Miró’s 1937 poster. Photograph: Album/Alamy
    Hold your horses, for now. It would be straying into the realm of conspiracy theory to over-interpret Trump’s fist. It is not being used for any arcane political associations but as a pumping symbol of fighting spirit. Trump draws on the radical gesture just like he uses rock music against the wishes of musicians: whatever works. We see in this picture what a potent political bricoleur he is, borrowing images and rhetoric from any source and combining them in new, lucid collages with changed meanings. In this case, its meaning is given by the context, and that is a former US president with blood on his face in a huddle of protective agents under a billowing US flag. The flag and fist together are what make this picture so powerful: Trump reaches upward to make himself the embodiment of a wounded yet defiant America.

    Remarkably, through a magical cocktail of chance and Vucci’s excellent eye, this scene with the close-knit human group under the stars and stripes echoes Joe Rosenthal’s famous photograph of US Marines raising the flag at Iwo Jima in 1945. Both pictures portray an embattled collectivity with the stars and stripes triumphant above them. A similar scene was invented by Emanuel Leutze in his 1851 painting Washington Crossing the Delaware. This photograph joins those timeless patriotic images. It would not be the same without Old Glory. The American flag is the best-designed in the world, its abstract beauty striking and poignant in any setting. Here it is surrounded by violence and fear, as in the US national anthem: Trump makes his defiant call to fight on with the star-spangled banner perfectly situated parallel to his fist.

    Yet the heart of this picture’s meaning can be summed up in one word: blood. And the connotations of that go deeper than politics or patriotism. Christian supporters of Trump won’t be slow to see his survival as mystical. And they will be right, at least from the perspective of art history. Whatever else this scene may be, it is, at the iconographic level, religious. It is almost literally a resurrection. Trump has risen up from below the podium where he’d hidden, as if he were Christ rising from the tomb. In great paintings of that central Christian moment, such as Matthias Grünewald’s spooky, perturbing vision of a triumphant Jesus in the Isenheim Altarpiece, there is blood. Grünewald’s risen Christ shows the bloody spear wound in his side, the bloody nail holes in his hands, just as in this picture we can see Trump’s gory ear and the crimson blood on his cheek.

    Trump truly appears to be giving his blood here, a sacrifice for America. Like Jesus, he survives the sacrifice and rises again. Yet that resurrection is combined with details typical of the way earlier moments in the story of the Passion are depicted in art: the Secret Service agents surrounding him resemble the community of Christ’s close followers and supporters who lovingly tend his body in paintings like Rogier van der Weyden’s Descent from the Cross in the Prado, or Caravaggio’s The Entombment in the Vatican. Uncannily, there is even a female agent passionately holding on to Trump like the Virgin Mary in such Biblical masterpieces.

    Soldiers of Iwo Jima … Joe Rosenthal’s 1945 image of US Marines raising the flag.
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    Soldiers of Iwo Jima … Joe Rosenthal’s 1945 image of US Marines raising the flag. Photograph: Joe Rosenthal/AP
    That word “uncanny” is right. There is something genuinely uncanny, not quite explicable, about this image: how a scene with such deep meanings and a positively religious suggestiveness can happen spontaneously. But it did, just as a photographer caught Bobby Kennedy dying in a pool of blood with his arms out like Christ. American assassinations and attempts cross a line between politics, horror and martyrdom. This scene speaks to the unconscious. It is an incredible twist on America’s long and astonishingly public history of political violence. Even formally, this image of resurrection reverses and upturns the 1963 scenes of John F Kennedy’s assassination. In photographs taken just after JFK was shot, Secret Service agents protect his slumped body in the car: the president is down. He won’t get up again. Here, Trump is proudly vertical – not just standing proud but raising his arm.

    Is it unreal, as some claim on social media? Yes, in the sense that American life exceeds and mocks fiction. As Philip Roth lamented, the American novelist “has his hands full in trying to understand, and then describe, and then make credible much of the American reality”. And that was prior to Trump, who took America into new realms of the bizarre, beyond shame, beyond rules, beyond what previously defined the real.

    Yet it actually happened. It is happening. Look at the blood. It’s real blood caused by a real bullet that shaved a real man’s ear. That man really raises his fist in defiance in a mystically patriotic instant myth of resurrection.

    To say this is the image that may win Trump re-election may be the least of it. Surely what this picture tells us is what a second Trump presidency will be like. Bonds of blood between leader and people, sacrificial imagery – none of it fits into the calm, dull routines of stable democracies. An electoral campaign that begins with such an image of extremes is one that’s headed into uncharted, frightening places.

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    My view right now, still very much fluid and open to new information, is something like 40-60 in that order. Cui Bono is carrying more and more weight every hour.
    Like many others here (I suspect!) I've not been able to catch up on all the Avalon posts and the avalanche of detailed analyses (in articles and videos) all over the net. But I'm doing my best.

    I wanted to post this personal update that my 40-60 view yesterday is now at about 10-90. Not 'staged' (we all need to be careful about what most understand by that theatrical word), but a set-up by at least a faction of the SS team, orchestrated at a senior level, to allow this real shooting to happen.
    For me, it's now 0-100. Close to the end of Monday here, I've become certain there was inside complicity.

    Whether we'll ever get to know exactly what happened, I'm not so confident. Even now, the waters about JFK, 9/11, the Las Vegas shooting (remember that??) and much else are still somewhat muddied, and there's no formal closure in sight. But that doesn't prevent us each from studying all the publicly available evidence and coming to our own conclusions.
    The more I look at this the more it seems like we are all witnessing the whirlwind of dueling psyops. Even considering that as a possibility is hard to fathom. A botched assassination, exposed. This might just be the watershed moment in the collective consciousness that begins to clarify the muddied waters about JFK, 9/11, the Las Vegas shooting, etc. I wouldn't even be surprised, in the coming months, if some public resolution or official expose on the 2020 election emerges.

    I think all of us are still in shock, and processing, but it does appear the United States just went through a near-death experience.

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