Is the forum being monitored?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
Thus I am being transformed. The end point of "their" endeavours will be that I consist of nothing BUT what is predictable to their artificiality. Being a robot product myself I will not need to be predicted anymore.

Yes ... but ... those who would roboticize us lack sufficient awareness of the higher spiritual orders.

Thus those bastards are doomed to fail, though they can make a pretty good mess of things along the way.

Some of their witches and wizards can use spiritual powers as tools to augment their presence in the materium, but it is their signature flaw that they do not use their spiritual awareness to guide their path in the materium.

A corrupt priest might cite scripture to gain more gold for his robes; an inspired priest might use the clay and cloth at hand to teach and heal others.

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)
I aint worried about being Monitored by "Agencies"................ Im married.................................... RRR

Same kind of awareness I have, only my “monitor” is the spirit, from bottom denizens to the top (still wanna know if God has or had a dad).

I am, as Bill would put it, as sure as I can be that Big Gov sees and digests my every internet post. I have iirc spoken about the incident, where I got on the radar of security for POTUS Clinton’s visit to 24 Sussex, and I think those folks never forget.

The thing about the transparency to ‘spirit’ — may as well call it Big Spirit and include all the lows and the the highs of it — is that (IMO) we communicate to those whose frequency we match. And that includes incarnate spirits.

Just like keeping a life-partner happy and confident in us, best to always radiate and represent goodness as best we can. The converse opens us to reinforcement of negative traits, “sliding down a slippery slope”, because communication goes both ways.

[Miller]

Sharing opinions and experiences is one thing, but if we started planning and posting plots it's almost certain that collars would be felt in no time. I think "talk is cheap" (at the moment anyway), so extremely important to protect our rights to Free Speech for as long as possible.

Viva la Free Speech

[HopSan]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
Thus I am being transformed. The end point of "their" endeavours will be that I consist of nothing BUT what is predictable to their artificiality. Being a robot product myself I will not need to be predicted anymore.

Yes ... but ... those who would roboticize us lack sufficient awareness of the higher spiritual orders.

Thus those bastards are doomed to fail, though they can make a pretty good mess of things along the way.

Some of their witches and wizards can use spiritual powers as tools to augment their presence in the materium, but it is their signature flaw that they do not use their spiritual awareness to guide their path in the materium.

A corrupt priest might cite scripture to gain more gold for his robes; an inspired priest might use the clay and cloth at hand to teach and heal others.

Thanks for describing the crazy dichotomy of our time!

I don't believe that we should be worried of spying/monitoring/manipulating/trolling this forum at all:

My best understanding is that:

a) There is a cosmic, metaphysical battle ongoing, in this physical world.

b) We are visiting this world from some higher level.

c) Higher 'souls'/essence likes truth more than lying, greedy creatures.

d) Lower creatures don't like this/similar places, they cannot 'assimilate'. They are obvious.

As long as Avalon/others are small, the 'them' don't WANT to see us.

[william r sanford72]

Indeed At one point They sure seemed interested in the forum.

Paul can back me on this if my memory Serves..and Email exchanges that i am to lazy to dig through.

This was several years ago and yet again The Avalon servers were gett'n beat up though this time i gotta an email from paul basicly asking me if i was aware of what my laptop was doing to the forum?

my reply was.... WHAT?

He explained to me in very basic terms that my laptop was asking for bits/packets of info everytime it logged into a site and there was a basic speed or amount it asked for as a standard..my laptop was far out exceeding the normal request...he told me how to look it up and i was shocked at how fast my laptop was working.

Of course i looked up what was normal and realized how naive and behind the curve on tech i was..still am..still dont have a cell phone and the laptop im still using just about dies every time microsoft trys to update it..The laptop is a bit dated and about the only time i use it is for the forum and pictures.

Back Then i could Maybee cut and paste images and only learned how to do That because of the bee thread..I told paul That i had no idea and even suggested and asked if i should trash My laptop?

Not So much Naive anymore..and only have a healthy level of paranoid aware-ness now adays and still despise AI and have a slight dislike for Tech..and all it comes with.

Mike said it best in My O.P.

The forum is a Rare Bird and The targets are Shifting.

William.

[Sue (Ayt)]

I've have also suspected for a long time that forums and discussions are actively scanned by Hollywood folks in order to steal our ideas for their productions, as it is said that the controller types notoriously lack creativity.
Often it has seemed that we discuss concepts first, and then they appear in some movie.

I figured a while back that the internet is rather like a 3-d lower level reflection/replica of the "akashic record" spoken of existing in the higher planes.
Kind of following the idea of "As above, So below".
That was when I basically let go of my own paranoia, and figured that there really are no secrets.

[Abondance]

What makes me smile is that technology itself can become a privileged means for "the other world" to communicate.

There is an academic who has done research on the particular phenomenon of "calls from the afterlife" with a corpus of truly incredible testimonies.
And I have myself witnessed this phenomenon, not with someone who was dead, but who was in a coma, just before he died.

It’s not a question of whether it was really "Aunt Emmy" calling or leaving a text from heaven, it is a matter of recognizing that the electronics seems to be a system easily hackable by disembodied entities, psychological phenomena, and therefore, regardless of the illusion of control we believe to have, there is information that seeps and sneaks everywhere, even between realities...

[Vicus]

For monitors and monitored

Everybody from this 2 groups need to watch this film: The Lives of Others

How monitoring destroy lives and maybe turn somebody(monitors) to some good...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others

[Ratszinger]

The powers only pretend to care about rights and freedom. They're most assuredly here, they most certainly monitor all being said and posted and in the event of crack down they would have names and documents of all they would need to make some lives miserably aware they were not only monitored here but monitored for some time not just a short span of time but for long stretches of time. In truth for as much as those same powers hide about their own behavior these days with population control alone we should all already be painfully aware that truth being shared on any open platform is already seen by them as a problem.So in the event of a crisis of revelation they would most certainly feel the need to shut down some places with free exchange of ideas and news taking over control of the free exchange if not the people themselves to get control of the situation!

[s7e6e]

The answer is beyond obvious. While Facebook is a metadata aggregation tool, this one is one of CIAs favorite probing platforms. The better question would be, who are the undercover agents?

Bill Ryan: what do you think?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by william r sanford72 (here)
Indeed At one point They sure seemed interested in the forum.

Paul can back me on this if my memory Serves..and Email exchanges that i am to lazy to dig through.

This was several years ago and yet again The Avalon servers were gett'n beat up though this time i gotta an email from paul basicly asking me if i was aware of what my laptop was doing to the forum?

When I returned, late last year, to administering the Avalon server, I expected, amongst other tasks to have to get a fancy, custom, firewall working again, that I had spent years of time, developing for Avalon, over a decade ago now.

Back then, especially in say the 2011 through 2015 years, there was a huge load constantly on our servers, from more than just ordinary member traffic, and my fancy firewall would block and throttle some of the traffic, to keep the Avalon web server from being overloaded.

But that's not been a problem now. Outside of a couple of annoying bot farms in Russia and China, that seemed to be up to no good and that I now have easily blocked, the Avalon server sees just ordinary member traffic and a light load from guests and web search engine bots, wandering by.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by s7e6e (here)
The answer is beyond obvious. While Facebook is a metadata aggregation tool, this one is one of CIAs favorite probing platforms. The better question would be, who are the undercover agents?

As former moderator Kristin and I documented back in July of 2017, such as in the thread Corey Goode and the Project Avalon Server Data, Avalon was apparently also used as a "library" of extensive documentation of alien, space travel, and esoteric science by Corey Goode, perhaps "to willfully develop a persona to dishonestly misinform the public that he was a Secret Space Program insider", before going on to (apparently willfully) disrupt the exposure efforts of other long standing insiders, whistleblowers and experts.

If you listen to Clif High, you will hear him still mention Corey Goode's name several times a year, with evident annoyance. Listen for example between about the 3 minute mark and 8 minute mark to Clif High's latest podcast, posted yesterday: Break-away. (Substack).

It seems, as Kristin and I documented in the above July 2017 thread, that Corey "learned" his "memories" here on Avalon, from Nov 2010 through May 2017. Corey claimed to have "come from a multi-generational Naval Special Forces and Naval Intelligence family background."

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by s7e6e (here)
The answer is beyond obvious. While Facebook is a metadata aggregation tool, this one is one of CIAs favorite probing platforms. The better question would be, who are the undercover agents?

Bill Ryan: what do you think?

I've long ago stopped worrying about such things.

I personally experienced some serious and very real surveillance, interference, and attempted manipulation situations back (a) when hosting the Serpo material in 2005-2006, and (b) when Project Camelot was launched shortly afterwards.

But nowadays, while I'm sure Avalon is surveilled (almost certainly automatically) just as every other alt media platform is, there's no evidence visible to any of the mods and admins right now of any human 'moles' in the community — though we did have one or two 'interesting' members posting a few years back, who did not remain here long.

Those of you reading this who have a smartphone (which I do NOT have or ever use!) may be far more vulnerable to personal surveillance than when merely posting on the forum.

[Bruce G Charlton]

@Bill "who have a smartphone (which I do NOT have or ever use!) may be far more vulnerable to personal surveillance"

Indeed. I don't have one either. But having someone nearby (e.g. sharing your abode) that uses a smartphone is also potentially a bad thing, and I can't do anything about that!

IMO the main thing is to accept that we are all vulnerable in principle, and there is nothing "material" that can be done to stop this - and therefore neither to live in fear nor attempt to "hide". (To surrender to fear is already to be defeated, and spiritually to invite persecution.)

David Icke provides an example and inspiration on this theme:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7jlh-mIgJBQ

[Vicus]

I'm speechless...

Not a month yet after my latest post here, today come this:

Stasi 2.0? Germany to grant police right to 'secretly' search homes - media


The ministry for state security, is written in German.

The German Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) may soon be allowed to secretly enter and search homes, according to a draft reform proposal seen by Der Spiegel and RND.

According to the document, police would also have the power to install spyware on suspects' computers or smartphones, in addition to conducting covert searches of their homes. These powers would supposedly only be used in exceptional circumstances.


Comment: Exceptional circumstances means only whenever the state feels it is necessary and it will not tell anyone about it when it happens.

The Interior Ministry has defended the initiative, claiming that the BKA plays a central role in countering international terrorism threats. A spokesperson refused to discuss details of the proposal, which is still at a very early stage, but told Der Spiegel on Wednesday that security agencies must have the necessary powers to effectively counter evolving threats.


Critics have voiced concerns that such far-reaching interventions could undermine the rule of law, as the inviolability of the home is enshrined in Article 13 of the German constitution. Unless there is an "imminent threat," the current process for searches requires a warrant from the prosecutor's office, while police must inform the person of specific suspicions and the purpose of the search.

The Free Democratic Party does not support "Stasi 2.0," Bundestag member Manuel Hoferlin said, referring to the notorious state security service of East Germany. While he acknowledged the need for "adequate and powerful investigative tools," he noted that the secrecy surrounding searches was very concerning.

The German Association of Journalists (DJV) has also come out strongly against the plans, with Federal Chairman Mika Beuster warning that journalists and whistleblowers could be affected by secret break-ins reminiscent of methods used by "police states."

Meanwhile, the vice-chair of the Greens in the Bundestag, Konstantin von Notz, has defended the plans, arguing that in these "serious times" the BKA needs modern investigative powers and resources.

Comment: The German interior ministry has been happy to shut down dissenting voices and often under the excuse of 'far right' extremism, which covers a whole range of dissenting voices. It is only a month ago that the interior ministry closed down popular German magazine for the audacity of interviewing the Russian spokeswoman for Foreign affairs.

https://www.sott.net/article/493948-...ch-homes-media

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Vicus (here)
Stasi 2.0? Germany to grant police right to 'secretly' search homes - media

Good grief.

[Open Minded Dude]

Posted by Vicus (here)
It is only a month ago that the interior ministry closed down popular German magazine for the audacity of interviewing the Russian spokeswoman for Foreign affairs.

https://www.sott.net/article/493948-...ch-homes-media

This latter point is rather a projection. They were not necessarily only shutdown because of this interview but because of many other interviews, articles, reports, opinion pieces, iirc.
Latest news is however that the shutdown has been partly lifted now by another judge. So there's hope for this magazine to appear soon again.

[Vicus]

What isn't a projection...

Is that Germany is the champion in surveillance ...

First Gestapo (later imported to U.S.aka:S.O.S.aka C.i.A and the rest soup letters scum...all very good expose from Edward Snowden.

Second STASI

And now...taraa! BKA !

[Denise/Dizi]

They're al doing it, and they need not, as Bill said, surf this site, or any for that matter... We're way beyond microphones in Cable boxes and VCR's at this point... People are now wired to display what they see from their own eyes, and advanced AI then reads that as if it is a security camera...

Welcome to high tech...

[Lunesoleil]

I'm watching you 24/24, be careful not to make waves or you're all watching me ❓
God watches over us
aliens are watching us ❓
My father, my mother up there 👆
Who again ❓