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    This is a very important video!!!! Body cam footage taken right after the shooting

    It shows a ladder already there and an agent actually saying watch out for shell casings and another agent counting 5 shell casings next to Crooks!!!!!! (counts shell casings approx. 4:44 in video)

    JUST RELEASED: Additional Bodycam footage where Trump Shooter was positioned

    ADDED: (same video as above but longer version)
    In this video at about 4:52 they count 5 shell casings (perhaps not seeing the other 3?) and then at 24:03 they count 8 shell casings! Something is very strange as now that there's 8, 3 seem to be farther away from Crooks body.




    ADDED:
    If there's any foul play concerning the spent shell casings, it would of have to of been done before the guy with the body cam got up on the roof.

    Or, perhaps we were over-thinking this and it was just a few Trump hating bad apples that conspired with Crooks and let him in and up there to kill Trump. The first 3 shots could of simply been different grain and brand shells that sounded different than the 5 shot burst.

    I have my doubts but anything is possible.
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    I have heard several quotes in the past, that ring true. They are not my own and may not be exact quotes/

    “To know who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”
    incorrectly attributed to Voltaire

    "Whoever controls the media, controls the mind."
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

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    This is a very important video!!!! Body cam footage taken right after the shooting

    It shows a ladder already there and an agent actually saying watch out for shell casings and another agent counting 5 shell casings next to Crooks!!!!!! (counts shell casings approx. 4:44 in video)

    JUST RELEASED: Additional Bodycam footage where Trump Shooter was positioned

    ADDED: (same video as above but longer version)
    In this video at about 4:52 they count 5 shell casings (perhaps not seeing the other 3?) and then at 24:03 they count 8 shell casings! Something is very strange as now that there's 8, 3 seem to be farther away from Crooks body.




    ADDED:
    If there's any foul play concerning the spent shell casings, it would of have to of been done before the guy with the body cam got up on the roof.

    Or, perhaps we were over-thinking this and it was just a few Trump hating bad apples that conspired with Crooks and let him in and up there to kill Trump. The first 3 shots could of simply been different grain and brand shells that sounded different than the 5 shot burst.

    I have my doubts but anything is possible.
    After watching this my mind turns to Occam's Razor, is a second or third shooter a possibility, yup.

    My choice, if I were a baddie shooter would be the water tower or the window in line with Trump. Saying that, timing a shot with this amateur would be almost, not completely, but almost impossible. It's really hard to time a shot with someone who you practice with regularly, let alone someone startled by a cop then opening fire out of fast necessity. Even a green horn patsy can see the difference between a bullet and a blank. It's hard to see in the video but to my eye it looks like possible powder burns next to the spent shells, suggesting they had been fired close to their resting place.

    Saying that could THEY have collected brass from his trips to the range and dumped them next to his body, yup. Could Trump and his close detail have cut his ear, yup. Could it be a huge conspiracy, yup. Yup, yup, yup.

    Or, could it be as simple as a badly put together team with exceptionally poor leadership, skimping on costs and agency expenditure, a botched mismanagement of goals and tasks left till the last moment, units leaving their vital posts for various reasons, multiple agencies unsure of their individual responsibilities and areas of control, with poor communications coordination, yup.

    Its either a terrible organizational gaf or some wider conspiracy that failed, I'm slowly leaning towards gaf, which actually is a much more scary proposition for the republic than any of the other options.

    Baddies and dark actors are watching this as WE are and taking notes.....x.... N
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
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    This is a very important video!!!! Body cam footage taken right after the shooting

    It shows a ladder already there and an agent actually saying watch out for shell casings and another agent counting 5 shell casings next to Crooks!!!!!! (counts shell casings approx. 4:44 in video)

    JUST RELEASED: Additional Bodycam footage where Trump Shooter was positioned

    ADDED: (same video as above but longer version)
    In this video at about 4:52 they count 5 shell casings (perhaps not seeing the other 3?) and then at 24:03 they count 8 shell casings! Something is very strange as now that there's 8, 3 seem to be farther away from Crooks body.




    ADDED:
    If there's any foul play concerning the spent shell casings, it would of have to of been done before the guy with the body cam got up on the roof.

    Or, perhaps we were over-thinking this and it was just a few Trump hating bad apples that conspired with Crooks and let him in and up there to kill Trump. The first 3 shots could of simply been different grain and brand shells that sounded different than the 5 shot burst.

    I have my doubts but anything is possible.
    After watching this my mind turns to Occam's Razor, is a second or third shooter a possibility, yup.

    My choice, if I were a baddie shooter would be the water tower or the window in line with Trump. Saying that, timing a shot with this amateur would be almost, not completely, but almost impossible. It's really hard to time a shot with someone who you practice with regularly, let alone someone startled by a cop then opening fire out of fast necessity. Even a green horn patsy can see the difference between a bullet and a blank.

    Saying that could THEY have collected brass from his trips to the range and dumped them next to his body, yup. Could Trump and his close detail have cut his ear, yup. Could it be a huge conspiracy, yup. Yup, yup, yup.

    Or, could it be as simple as a badly put together team with exceptionally poor leadership, skimping on costs and agency expenditure, multiple agencies unsure of their individual responsibilities and areas of control, yup.

    Its either a terrible organizational gaf or some wider conspiracy that failed, I'm slowly leaning towards gaf, which actually is a much more scary proposition than the other option.

    Baddies and dark actors are watching this as WE are and taking notes.....x.... N
    Yet, if you look at the overall bigger picture, you can't find anything that actually was done correctly and went right on July 13th. Incompetence was obvious to a large degree, but, this is way beyond that.

    It's as if;
    50% of the security team there had Trump Derangement Syndrome and wanted Trump to die.
    45% of the security team there were just incompetent and didn't care either way.
    5% of the security team there were actually serious about doing their job. (2 or 3 in Trumps personal detail, a couple of snipers, and the driver of the beast!)

    Trump walked up on that stage with almost NO reliable and trusted protection.

    ADDED:
    I hate to throw all those cops under the bus as I'm sure there were several there that were completely innocent and blindsided by this. But, as an overall security force that day their performance looked beyond poor and very suspicious, even criminal.
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    This video does a good job of explaining where the alleged sniper Crooks was on the AGR roof nearest to Trump, Crook's line of sight, the tree blocking the line of sight from the closest Secret Service team to Crooks, the limited view angle from the state/local police in the taller AGR building behind Crooks, and the lack of ladders to get on the roof until after the shooting, when police brought in ladders.

    In this in-depth Donald Trump shooting analysis, Jeff Ostroff walks you through some of the most common questions concerning the facts of the shooting, along with questions answered to Congress by FBI director Chris Wray covering shell casings, ladders, where the shooter flew his drone, and a detailed analysis of more police bodycam video minutes after the shooting.

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    ...

    ... at this stage, I am fairly convinced the whole thing was a display of professional incompetence... i.e. the incompetence was by design and designed by very competent professionals.

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    BUMP Added note and 3rd video

    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    This is a very important video!!!! Body cam footage taken right after the shooting

    It shows a ladder already there and an agent actually saying watch out for shell casings and another agent counting 5 shell casings next to Crooks!!!!!! (counts shell casings approx. 4:44 in video)

    JUST RELEASED: Additional Bodycam footage where Trump Shooter was positioned

    ADDED: (same video as above but longer version)
    In this video at about 4:52 they count 5 shell casings (perhaps not seeing the other 3?) and then at 24:03 they count 8 shell casings! Something is very strange as now that there's 8, 3 seem to be farther away from Crooks body.




    ADDED:
    If there's any foul play concerning the spent shell casings, it would of have to of been done before the guy with the body cam got up on the roof.

    Or, perhaps we were over-thinking this and it was just a few Trump hating bad apples that conspired with Crooks and let him in and up there to kill Trump. The first 3 shots could of simply been different grain and brand shells that sounded different than the 5 shot burst.

    I have my doubts but anything is possible.

    NOTE:

    This video is time stamped. The cop with the body cam didn't get up on the roof until 6:31pm, approx. 20 minutes after the shooting. Also after others were already up there that could of tampered with evidence (like tossing down 3 more shell casings).

    The audio analysis by Chris Martenson still has me pretty convinced that the first 3 shots were from a different gun. (Shot from the window beneath Crooks IMO)

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    This is a very important video!!!! Body cam footage taken right after the shooting

    It shows a ladder already there and an agent actually saying watch out for shell casings and another agent counting 5 shell casings next to Crooks!!!!!! (counts shell casings approx. 4:44 in video)

    JUST RELEASED: Additional Bodycam footage where Trump Shooter was positioned

    Is this alleged Body Cam footage real or a mock up ?

    Why is it all at an angle.... and if it was originally at an angle (for some unknown reason..) why hasn't it been corrected and rotated when presented for public consumption ... the movements and feel of it reminds me of fake UFO footage back in the day...

    And drawing on Moon Landing fake footage (back in the day)... ..... the shadows..... not sure if they all fit and are at the angles they should be...

    The shadows on the roof itself and the slight slope help to befuddle the brain when it comes to the shadows of the people...

    What I'm asking is.... was this piece of footage created (days after the event) to strengthen certain parts of the narrative - like the spent shell cases - numbers and positions - even their very existence...?

    Just wondering because the footage has a fake feel to me...

    ???

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    Why is it all at an angle.... and if it was originally at an angle (for some unknown reason..) why hasn't it been corrected and rotated when presented for public consumption ... the movements and feel of it reminds me of fake UFO footage back in the day...

    And drawing on Moon Landing fake footage (back in the day)... ..... the shadows..... not sure if they all fit and are at the angles they should be...

    The shadows on the roof itself and the slight slope help to befuddle the brain when it comes to the shadows of the people...
    What shadows I notice, when I went back just now to skim through a bit of it again, seemed reasonable enough ... going East away from a setting sun in the West.

    It is apparently some sort of military helmet camera that I've not seen video from before, unlike typical police body cameras. So I figured it was at whatever angle it happened to be, hanging off some guys helmet, and we were getting relatively unprocessed video - which is fine by me.

    Do you have the time stamp for any particular frames that showed the anomalies you noticed?
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    Should we be taking another look at Maxwell Yearick ?
    Assets Magazine July 23 2024

    Initially, Crooks was associated with a van before we were told he arrived by bicycle.

    The FBI towed away a van which, allegedly, had Arizona plates. Crooks didn't live in Arizona, Maxwell Yearick's parents DO!






    Then there's this very odd picture from the rally site;


    Some attendees have said that a person who looked like Yearick was seen at the Trump Rally wearing a police uniform.



    Perhaps this article is a complete crock made up for the purpose of muddying the waters ?

    It IS called ASSETS MAGAZINE after all.

    It got me thinking we could have been diverted at the first set of points on this track tho'. We know the game the FBI is playing, dropping crumbs that lead us in the direction they want us to go in.
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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Why is it all at an angle.... and if it was originally at an angle (for some unknown reason..) why hasn't it been corrected and rotated when presented for public consumption ... the movements and feel of it reminds me of fake UFO footage back in the day...

    And drawing on Moon Landing fake footage (back in the day)... ..... the shadows..... not sure if they all fit and are at the angles they should be...

    The shadows on the roof itself and the slight slope help to befuddle the brain when it comes to the shadows of the people...
    What shadows I notice, when I went back just now to skim through a bit of it again, seemed reasonable enough ... going East away from a setting sun in the West.

    It is apparently some sort of military helmet camera that I've not seen video from before, unlike typical police body cameras. So I figured it was at whatever angle it happened to be, hanging off some guys helmet, and we were getting relatively unprocessed video - which is fine by me.

    Do you have the time stamp for any particular frames that showed the anomalies you noticed?

    It's all swinging around so much...and at an angle - + with shadows from the roof material that it's not easy to be exact - especially as I don't have a Paint Programme or anything similar to do screen shots - maybe someone else has - and can rotate it so it isn't at an angle... the person who the footage is alleged to be coming from must have been in constant motion ??

    But I've just had a quick look to try and isolate an example and if you tap it out (clicking the pause button on and off) .....4:48 / 4:49....and 5:10 / 5:12 ...... you might see what I mean - something isn't looking right in spite of the constant swinging around and the angle.... and the slight slope - - - I think there are flashes of other examples, but the bits I've time stamped with tapping pause - has the blurred red bits, presumably supposed to be Crooks blood....a shadow going one way on the right and a front facing shadow going in a bit of another direction - (so if you took them to their conclusion they would meet at a point?? which natural shadows are not supposed to do....?)

    sorry if all this is a bit vague - I only noticed potential shadow anomalies a little while ago - when I woke up early and looked at the thread...

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    edit to add..... just realised that the Photo Still of the roof scene they have used to begin the whole video is around the time I've tried to isolate - which could even make me think that if Body Cam and Helmet Cam videos are (Deep Fake? or Photo Shop?) mock ups... that including anomalies could be part of the 'game' to do our heads in even more....

    Ok.... that's enough multi layered conspiracy from me for now.... time for breakfast.....
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    .4:48 / 4:49....and 5:10 / 5:12 ...... ....a shadow going one way on the right and a front facing shadow going in a bit of another direction -
    Those time stamps help - thanks.

    I see, at each of those time stamps, the pair of shadows that aren't at the same angle.

    However that looks real to me, as the two shadows in each pair are cast on different slopes, one shadow on our left is on the slope going up to our right, and the other shadow on our right is on the slope going up to our left.

    My head seems to have a talent for positioning shifting, moving, rotating objects in 3D space, and so far everything I've seen on that roof video looks correct to me. But I wouldn't recommend that video to someone who is on their first boat ride in a rough sea and resisting getting seasick.
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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    .4:48 / 4:49....and 5:10 / 5:12 ...... ....a shadow going one way on the right and a front facing shadow going in a bit of another direction -
    Those time stamps help - thanks.

    I see, at each of those time stamps, the pair of shadows that aren't at the same angle.

    However that looks real to me, as the two shadows in each pair are cast on different slopes, one shadow on our left is on the slope going up to our right, and the other shadow on our right is on the slope going up to our left.

    My head seems to have a talent for positioning shifting, moving, rotating objects in 3D space, and so far everything I've seen on that roof video looks correct to me. But I wouldn't recommend that video to someone who is on their first boat ride in a rough sea and resisting getting seasick.

    Re the bolded above - a bit later I might do a highly complicated experiment .... .....

    and recreate the scene with a piece of cardboard - a torch - and cardboard strips for the people ...




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    Last edited by ExomatrixTV; 26th July 2024 at 11:09.
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    • Analyzing New Trump Rally Bodycam Footage w/ Styxhexenhammer:

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    Folks, this looks like the FULL unedited version (25 minutes) released via Sen. Chuck Grassley's website, here:

    Correction: not unedited. It appears there's a full 11 minutes that's been chopped out | See: https://x.com/Adrian_Bisson/status/1816605772366631126



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    https://x.com/BrainStorm_Joe/status/1816224817051205884




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    https://x.com/MZHemingway/status/1816656844137406804



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    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
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    at this stage, I am fairly convinced the whole thing was a display of professional incompetence... i.e. the incompetence was by design and designed by very competent professionals.
    Beautifully worded. Made me laugh!

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