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    While I have not watched Martenson's latest yet, he and his team upped their site 3D-modeling game in the previous video, which I suspect was due to what Cullen and his support folks accomplished there.

    Martenson realized that was a key component to support the audio and video analysis, I assume.
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    Default Re: Trump 2024 assassination attempt in Butler County, Pa.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Chis Martenson published another update a couple of hours ago. What struck me strongly was this hypothesis proposed by someone in his research group. Below is a screenshot (shown starting at 19:15 in the video, after which Martenson discusses it in detail).

    It suggests a concealed second shooter in the roof space above the windows. The idea on its own proves nothing, of course, but the hypothesis aligns with all the currently available data, with nothing ruling it out. It earned itself a loud-and clear personal bookmark for me, but of course confirming this may be next to impossible.

    It's like the storm drain in the JFK assassination, which is where Johnny Roselli was when he took the fatal head shot. (That's absolutely what happened on that day, btw, but it's off-topic on this thread.)



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    Just playing a little catch up here, and, yes, based on your summary here, and the notes on the sketch, that solves the riddle of the muffled audio (first 3 shots), and the (slightly) upward (?) trajectory very well indeed So, Crooks may have let off the next 5 shots, the LEO the next shot at Crooks, and the final kill-shot that took Crooks out (10). This all makes good sense at least on immediate spec. I do though need to catch up on the video analyses going back a few days
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    ... for the whole world to see the ritual, say no more...

    High-profile Jewish rabbi claims Trump is a messiah appointed by God to serve Israel
    A high-profile Jewish rabbi has claimed that former president Donald Trump was anointed as a non-Jewish messiah by God to serve the state of Israel.

    The rabbi cites multiple reasons he is convinced that Trump is a non-Jewish messiah who will serve the Jewish people. One is the fact that his right ear was grazed by a bullet in a recent assassination attempt in Pennsylvania, which he likens to a passage in the Torah stating that “a servant who wants to remain with his master needs to have his right ear pierced.”

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    This is the body cam footage of the cop that was boosted up on the roof and was confronted by Crooks and then fell.
    He then ran around the the building and was the officer walking around with his pistol in his hand right before the first 3 shots were fired.

    I can't believe none of these cops yelled out towards Trump to get down! (They were less than 100 yards away!)

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    This is the body cam footage of the cop that was boosted up on the roof and was confronted by Crooks and then fell.
    He then ran around the the building and was the officer walking around with his pistol in his hand right before the first 3 shots were fired.

    I can't believe none of these cops yelled out towards Trump to get down! (They were less than 100 yards away!)
    A quick thinking LEO would have fired shots into the ground to get the USSS moving.
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    This is the body cam footage of the cop that was boosted up on the roof and was confronted by Crooks and then fell.
    He then ran around the the building and was the officer walking around with his pistol in his hand right before the first 3 shots were fired.

    I can't believe none of these cops yelled out towards Trump to get down! (They were less than 100 yards away!)
    A quick thinking LEO would have fired shots into the ground to get the USSS moving.
    Seems like all the law enforcement and security detail there that day were either in on the evil plot or just completely stupid.
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    This doesn't add up. We've been told from official sources that the officer who was hoisted to roof (seconds before the shooting took place, so I'm assuming it was this officer) cut his hand in the process. It was serious enough for a visit to the bathroom. This is the explanation for the blood that was found on the sink. In another video, we hear someone say the injury may need stitches.

    Yet, I see no blood or sign of injury on either of this officer's hands, and we see a lot of his hands thanks to the position of this bodycam.

    It's amateur hour with these guys, it really is.

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
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    This doesn't add up. We've been told from official sources that the officer who was hoisted to roof (seconds before the shooting took place, so I'm assuming it was this officer) cut his hand in the process. It was serious enough for a visit to the bathroom. This is the explanation for the blood that was found on the sink. In another video, we hear someone say the injury may need stitches.

    Yet, I see no blood or sign of injury on either of this officer's hands, and we see a lot of his hands thanks to the position of this bodycam.

    It's amateur hour with these guys, it really is.

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    Correct, it wasn't the cop that got boosted up and seen Crooks that cut his hand, it had to be someone else.

    The Stewart Film and body cam footage of this cop that got boosted up and seen Crooks absolutely shows it wasn't him that cut his hand.

    I hate to throw most of these cops under the bus but it's looking more and more like many of them were in on this evil plot or are just complete morons.

    I think those cops that were in the building on the second floor that supposedly left their posts right before the shooting need to take a polygraph test and be heavily interrogated. (but that'll never happen of course)
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    Default Re: Trump 2024 assassination attempt in Butler County, Pa.

    Not yet convinced local cops were in it on.

    Below is more bodycam footage recorded by Butler Police. We've seen short clips of it before. This one is a full 21 minutes long. We hear an exchange between a group of officers that's persuasive in my opinion. They may have released this footage to help cover their asses, as it exposes serious operational lapses by the Secret Service.

    For the key portions I've typed out a following transcript.

    10.13
    LEO1: I f*cking told them, they need to post guys over here [AGR building]. I told them...the Secret Service, I told them that f*cking Tuesday, I told them to post f*cking guys over here
    LEO 2: I thought you guys were on the roof?
    LEO 1: No, we were inside
    LEO 2: I wasn’t even concerned about it because I thought someone was on the roof. I thought that’s how we like ... how can you lose a guy walking back here when there’s a guy on the roof?
    LEO 1: They were inside
    LEO 2: In the building?
    LEO 3: Why were we...?
    LEO 1: Because I thought we were going to post guys over here, and I talked to the Secret Service guys and yeah, no problem, we’re going to post guys over here

    12.21
    LEO 3: I see him coming up [on the roof]
    LEO 2: This side?
    LEO 3: Coming across, and he climbed down the other side, that’s when I was calling it out, and he came down, and that’s when the trooper pulled up, and he went down [garbled] – you were there, did you see the long gun?
    LEO 1: No, I was running up when the shots got fired
    LEO 2: So he shot...who shot him?
    LEO 3: I don’t know

    17.26
    LEO 1: I f'cking told the Secret Service to post a guy over here. I told them that f'cking at the meeting on Tuesday

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    https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1821756125064089872



    Side by side footage of the new video released along with what Trump was doing at the same time.
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    -At 6.10.54 pm the cop sees Crooks. Crooks then takes the first shot at Trump at 6.11.33 pm THIRTY NINE SECONDS LATER.




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    Why didn’t the cop that went on the roof find the nearest protected area close by and call in that there was a shooter? Instead, he scrambles out into the middle of an open field where he is neither protected from gunfire nor able to quickly call in the problem.

    It’s choppy and without audio to start with and I’m obviously Monday morning quarterbacking. So yes we don’t have the whole story, but it seems like we have enough to ask more questions. Since the
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    Said all the above 50 pages ago...wasn't interesting or pertinent then, I guess.
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    Default Re: Trump 2024 assassination attempt in Butler County, Pa.

    Chris Martenson published an update about 4 hours ago that breaks down the latest Butler police bodycam footage. It answers some of his investigation team's questions, raises other questions. He updates the timeline of events, from his gathered evidence.

    I don't see this update on Youtube.
    Here it is on rumble: https://rumble.com/v5acgpx-now-we-ha...rosperity.html

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    This doesn't add up. We've been told from official sources that the officer who was hoisted to roof (seconds before the shooting took place, so I'm assuming it was this officer) cut his hand in the process. It was serious enough for a visit to the bathroom. This is the explanation for the blood that was found on the sink. In another video, we hear someone say the injury may need stitches.

    Yet, I see no blood or sign of injury on either of this officer's hands, and we see a lot of his hands thanks to the position of this bodycam.

    It's amateur hour with these guys, it really is.
    I am currently presuming that someone had a hand (or similar) injury that resulted in that blood in that bathroom ... however (1) it wasn't that roof climbing officer, just as you explain, (2) it was some other "officer" doing something they don't want to discuss with us, and (3) doffing my (overly used) tin-foil conspiracy hat, it was another shooter, in addition to the shooter we're told is named "Crooks" who ended up dead on the roof.

    The best speculation I've heard so far as to where this other shooter shot from comes from (IIRC) Chris Martenson ... who speculated that the first three shots came from the crawl space above the first, and only, story of AGR Bldg #6, just below eaves of the roof, and perhaps 40 feet closer to Trump, than the roof shooter (Crooks?) position.

    Perhaps the first of the two counter sniper shots, which we're never told from whence it came nor to where it went, nicked that other shooter's hand?
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...d-may-have-had

    Records Reveal Trump Shooter Visited Local Gun Range Dozens Of Times - And May Have Had Company

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    Authored by Ken Silva via Headline USA,

    Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, has released records from the Clairton Sportsmen’s Club, the shooting range Thomas Crooks used in the lead-up to his alleged assassination attempt against Donald Trump.



    The records show Crooks became a member of Clairton Sportsmen’s Club last August and visited there at least 43 times, the last visit being the day before he tried to kill Trump at the July 13 campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. Crooks was a member of the Clairton Sportsmen’s Club “through his family,” according to the Associated Press.

    Of his 43 trips, Crooks might have had company at least four times: Aug. 31, 2023; Sept. 28, 2023; Nov. 10, 2023; and April 24 of this year. On those dates, someone signed into Clairton on the exact same time and used the same ranges—with Crooks and the mystery visitor both using the rifle and pistol range on Nov. 10.

    https://x.com/JD_Cashless/status/1821732543105769882



    Grassley redacted the names of the other visitors to Clairton, which is also reportedly a training ground for the Department Homeland Security. According to local news site TribLive, Clairton was used by the DHS for police training on a day Crooks wasn’t there.

    Grassley’s office reportedly described Crooks’ visits as “intense preparation in the months prior to his attempted assassination of the former president.”

    Also noteworthy was Crooks visiting the gun range on Valentine’s Day this year, and on Christmas and Halloween last year, according to the records.

    According to TribLive, Clairton spans 180 acres in West Mifflin and Jefferson Hills and boasts more than 2,000 members. The club has several rifle ranges, including at least one that is 200 yards.

    In the days after the shooting, club president Bill Sellitto reportedly told TribLive, “What happened was a terrible, terrible, terrible thing. That’s not who we are.”

    “We know very little about him,” club president Bill Sellitto also told the AP. “That was a terrible, terrible thing that happened Saturday — that’s not what we’re about by any means.”

    He declined to comment Thursday when the records were released.

    As a freshman, Crooks had tried out for his high school rifle team but was rejected for poor marksmanship.

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    I see Dennis has stopped by


    George Webb's views/connections(?)

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    President Trump’s attempted assassination was an INSIDE JOB! President Trump had long been determined a threat to the Deep State and the only way for the Deep State to survive is to STOP Donald Trump from ever entering the White House again!

    George Webb excellent research shows us the incredible Cheney, Yearick, Cheyenne Tactical Weapon Connection. Not to mention bulletproof glass and plastics patents, all in one shootout.

    The murder weapons chosen both by Yearick and Crooks for the Trump assassination was the Cheyenne Tactical Weapon, the CheyTac CT-15, made in Dick Cheney‘s home state of Wyoming. Roger Yearick developed the CheyTac sniper rifle, with .408 rounds four times more powerful than a normal AR-15 from Yearick’s designs at Carderock Naval Surface Warfare Center. The Cheneys are family friends with the Yearicks from Wyoming.

    The predicate Cheney cited for suspending the BWC Convention was that Anthrax was found in the wreckage of Flight 93 near Windber, Pennsylvania. The investigator who concluded that Anthrax was Officer Tony Guy.

    Twenty-three years later, Sheriff Tony Guy would be the Butler County Sheriff who would look the other way from his Command Post
    overlooking the American Glass Building 6 while a twenty-year-old assassin would almost take the life of Donald Trump.

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    and George Webb, in his research, has connected Copenhaver as a person who can identify Roger Yearick as someone connected with collapsible sniper rifles and Dick Cheney.

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    I hate to believe something like that but when the S S won’t release files, lying to congress and won’t answer questions, it’s hard not to believe it was an inside job. Lord help us!
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    Default Re: Trump 2024 assassination attempt in Butler County, Pa.

    Quote Posted by Alecs (here)
    Chris Martenson published an update about 4 hours ago that breaks down the latest Butler police bodycam footage. It answers some of his investigation team's questions, raises other questions. He updates the timeline of events, from his gathered evidence.

    I don't see this update on Youtube.
    Here it is on rumble: https://rumble.com/v5acgpx-now-we-ha...rosperity.html
    Here it is:

    Now We Have MORE Questions (Pointing to LIHOP*)
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    Default Re: Trump 2024 assassination attempt in Butler County, Pa.

    An interesting comment to add here. (And for those mathematicians amongst us, even at junior high school level, maybe an obvious one.)

    Near the end of this video conversation two days ago with Judge Napolitano, Ray McGovern, as wise as the Old Man of the Hills, mentioned that he asked famous mathematician and NSA whistleblower Bill Binney for his view on all this. What follows is my paraphrase.

    Binney replied that if the odds on an officer or agent making a major mistake or error of judgment was (say) 1 in 10, then the odds of 5 such errors being made by different people at pretty much the same time would be 1 in 100,000.

    Then combine that with the odds on a shooter being in exactly the right place at exactly that same time that all those errors were being made, then you might as well play the lottery.


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    Default Re: Trump 2024 assassination attempt in Butler County, Pa.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Binney replied that if the odds on an officer or agent making a major mistake or error of judgment was (say) 1 in 10 ...
    If a team of say 20 has trained and worked together on a specific sort of mission goes to work, with the usual resources and preparation, on another mission of the same sort, then it might be that the odds of a major mistake are (say) 1 in 10.

    If you then cobble together an understaffed and ill-equipped team of agents whose normal expertise is in something else, led by a DEI hire who had a reputation for messing things up, on that same sort of mission, and you then throw an actual hard scenario at them, then the odds of any given agent making a major mistake might jump to (say) 1 in 2, and the odds of some critical operation that requires rapid and tight coordination of several agents failing might jump to (say) 9 in 10.

    For example, take:
    [Team A] 8 back bencher soccer players who haven't played together
    and put them on the field facing
    [Team B] the first string 11 player team of the best American football team,
    in a critical, end of game, deciding play, using American football rules.

    No contest - Team B just won. If the poor chaps on Team A are lucky, then none of them will end up in the hospital Intensive Care Unit. Soccer (aka "football" to the rest of the world) players are fine athletes and all ... but this is not a fair match.

    As best as us conspiracy theory nutters can figure it out, this is the level of mismatch that the Deep State set up, in their attempt to get Trump off the field (and off the planet).

    ===

    In quite different words, taking off my football helmet and putting on my math hat (which does fit better), Binney's simple arithmetic of probabilities requires simple assumptions ... such as assuming that the risk of mission failure is equal to the risk of one or more agent failures, and the risk of any given agent failing is independent of and equal to that risk for any other agent.

    Such simple assumptions are simply wrong when dealing with a complex mission requiring multiple, coordinated, interdependent, time critical, actions from a properly staffed and equipped team of various specialized agents who have trained together extensively.
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