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    My own assumption is the only true "error" made in the entire operation was the shooter(s) (Crooks plus others, if there are others) missed their target. Everything else went according to plan.
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    My own assumption is the only true "error" made in the entire operation was the shooter(s) (Crooks plus others, if there are others) missed their target. Everything else went according to plan.
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    And more video... This latest body cam shows another angle of Crooks on the roof.

    It's 18.08, three minutes before the shooting begins. Crooks mounts the roof from somewhere in the rear of the complex. Subsequent frames (stabilized in video below) pick him out as he makes his way over the rooftops to building six.

    If he's visible on a bodycam with a wide angle lens then he's visible (and far more clearly) with the naked eye. Unfortunately, like all LEOs at the time, this cop was half asleep.

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    Trump Shooter Seen 3 Times On Roof! Boom!
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    Interesting videos.... more than 7 millions views..

    Testing The Assassination Attempt of Donald Trump


    Recreating the Assassination Attempt On Donald Trump

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    Please ignore this. Couldn't post the Rumble links inside the Gateway Pundit article even after I followed those links to Rumble. The audio recordings are too interesting for me not to share them. Sorry for the messed up post.
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    Looks like it's Rumble that won't allow the (part1 and part2) videos to be embedded more than once.

    The text of my messed up post is:

    Not sure if these Rumble vids have been posted here yet. Jim Hoft put this on his Gateway Pundit site early today:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...police-claims/

    (vids with audio are linked in the Hoft article, I can't post the actual Rumble links)

    This is the first I've heard of anyone reporting law enforcement radio traffic mentioning a second shooter. And the stuff about the guy in the red truck attempting to get people away from the 'active' location near the building where shots were fired from is new to me.

    But @realDJStew724 is known for his video that day. And I've been really skeptical of his initial video since it came from a phone that had been in custody of the feds before the video was posted - risk of tampering by the feds.

    One thing I've wanted to mention is that the pressure washing of the roof was most likely to erase any DNA evidence that could be used to ID the dead body. Same as the hasty 'recycling' of the structural steel of the 911 buildings that fell perfectly into their own footprint.

    And what's up with the new, never seen before views of those buildings falling just after this assasination attempt hit the internet? All I can imagine is that the person posting those 911 videos didn't want to take the risk of posting them in past years, but saw an opportunity to put them into the public domain as a way of indirectly emphasizing the crooked nature of the Trump shooting events.

    Anyway, I want to thank all of the members posting on this thread. I'd prefer to distance myself from all of the details of these events but find it difficult to do so. I decided that I'd use the PA forum as my only source for high quality links to to info. I hope the time comes when the narrative here turns to the big picture - how these events fit within a larger context of obvious manipulation of the ignorant masses. Not to diminish those folks. A society cannot be composed of predominantly 'situationally aware' citizens. There will always be some who are working on the lower levels of the learning curve. They deserve to be protected and inspired by those of us who are capable of dealing with such stratospheric ambiguity.



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    Quote Posted by helium (here)
    Please ignore this. Couldn't post the Rumble links inside the Gateway Pundit article even after I followed those links to Rumble. The audio recordings are too interesting for me not to share them. Sorry for the messed up post.
    I can't get Rumble videos to post right either, helium. There are a few here on Avalon who know the magic, but I've no doubt they've given up trying to teach me.

    For the benefit of others, here's the Gateway Pundit article that helium was linking, and plain old fashioned links to the Rumble videos helium found linked from that article:

    Eyewitness, Who Secretly Recorded Interrogation with Police, Claims to Have Overheard Police Radio Comms Mentioning ‘Blood in the Bathroom’ and ‘Second Shooter on the Loose’ Following Trump Assassination Attempt
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...police-claims/

    Part 1: Eyewitness Stewart asked the state troopers how they were able to locate him
    https://rumble.com/v5aixm3-part-1-ey...ble-to-lo.html

    Part 2: Stewart recalls a man in a red truck allegedly threatening people near the fence line
    https://rumble.com/v5aiykd-part-2-st...people-ne.html

    I found the above particularly interesting because it aligns with my current favorite theory, partly gained from (and extended beyond) Chris Martenson's work, that the second shooter was shooting from above the false ceiling in Bldg #6, just below the eaves of the roof, below and forward of Crooks (or whomever the patsy was) on the roof. I'm guessing this is the same person, wearing a black "Secret Service" shirt and vest, who walked (with a nervous looking colleague) down the Bldg #6 center hallway to greet some incoming police, some 10 or 15 minutes after the shooting, with his left hand stuck in his vest, like he was hiding his thumb. I'm further guessing that one of the police on the outside got a shot at that second shooter, during the shooting, and injured his thumb ... hence the blood in the bathroom sink of Bldg #6. The details that Stewart reports in this Gateway Pundit article fit with this second shooter under the eaves theory, including the aggressive checking of Stewart's mobile phone (presumably to ensure it had not captured any video showing the second shooter from under the eaves).
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    I'm guessing this is the same person, wearing a black "Secret Service" shirt and vest, who walked (with a nervous looking colleague) down the Bldg #6 center hallway to greet some incoming police, some 10 or 15 minutes after the shooting, with his left hand stuck in his vest, like he was hiding his thumb.
    This man, on the left side, partly hidden by the helmet mounted camera. You can see the last one or two letters of "Secret" and of "Service" on his vest. I suspect he's the second shooter, and the source of the blood in the Bldg #6 bathroom sink. If he is, then I'm 100% confident that the FBI has cleaned up all traces of that blood and we'll never hear about it again.

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    I took the above image from a screen shot of one of the body camera videos that John Cullen showed on his Patreon site ... I'm pretty sure I've seen that same video elsewhere (not behind a Patreon paywall), showing local police entering Bldg #6, and these two men in black, without helmets, walking down the Bldg #6 hallway, toward these arriving local police (how and when did those two men get in Bldg #6 to be able to greet the apparently first arriving police as if they, the two men, had already been there?).
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    and these two men in black, without helmets, walking down the Bldg #6 hallway, toward these arriving local police (how and when did those two men get in Bldg #6 to be able to greet the apparently first arriving police as if they, the two men, had already been there?).
    The Secret Service were known to be posted inside Building six. You can hear a pair of cops talking about it in the video posted on the previous page.

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    ... it aligns with my current favorite theory ... that the second shooter was shooting from above the false ceiling in Bldg #6, just below the eaves of the roof, below and forward of Crooks (or whomever the patsy was) on the roof.
    I'm now rejecting this theory due to lack of evidence - even tenuous evidence. There doesn't seem to be an opening in the side of this building through which a shooter can fire a weapon, at least with any efficiency, not to mention safety (to himself).

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    Even if there was a hole, somewhere, that hole -- if he's shooting through it from a distance -- would have to perfectly line up with Trump's head, otherwise he'd have to stick the bore of the rifle through said hole, blowing his position. The hole would also have to be large enough for a scope to centre his shot.

    Further, all cops stationed around the building, and the Secret Service inside the building...surely they (at least one friendly) would identify shots as having come from inside the building. Those rounds would have shaken the place.

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    I'm guessing this is the same person, wearing a black "Secret Service" shirt and vest, who walked (with a nervous looking colleague) down the Bldg #6 center hallway to greet some incoming police, some 10 or 15 minutes after the shooting, with his left hand stuck in his vest, like he was hiding his thumb.
    His thumb is clearly visible in other shots. At one point he seems to be using it to access his phone. There's no indication he's carrying a thumb injury, nor is there any sign of blood, or a bandage.

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    I'm further guessing that one of the police on the outside got a shot at that second shooter, during the shooting, and injured his thumb ... hence the blood in the bathroom sink of Bldg #6.
    That he took gunfire implies that someone had clear sight of him, which means he couldn't have been concealed in a roof cavity (where no one can see him). And why would a guy wearing a Secret Service uniform be picked out as a hostile anyway? And why (how) did he walk away with only a grazed thumb? If he had been picked out as a hostile, why did they allow him to walk away at all? Personally speaking, the second shooter theory is looking less and less likely by the day.

    See this new dashcam footage below. At 4.56 the first three shots ring out, quickly followed by the second burst of five. This is perhaps the one and only audio source that remains completely stationary during the shooting, making it uniquely consistent. This cop car sits right outside the main entrance, only yards away from Crooks on the roof. All eight shots sound identical to each other. I now strongly suspect that all these shots came from the same gun , from the same location, and from the same individual -- Crooks.

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    See this new dashcam footage below. At 4.56 the first three shots ring out, quickly followed by the second burst of five. This is perhaps the one and only audio source that remains completely stationary during the shooting, making it uniquely consistent. This cop car sits right outside the main entrance, only yards away from Crooks on the roof. All eight shots sound identical to each other. I now strongly suspect that all these shots came from the same gun , from the same location, and from the same individual -- Crooks.

    I also believe Crooks was the only shooter.

    I my opinion, the main reason this was a failed assassination is because Crooks missed, and also because there wasn't a second shooter.

    Crooks obviously had help. SS and LE incompetence at this level simply doesn't exist in my opinion.
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    I'm now rejecting this theory due to lack of evidence - even tenuous evidence.
    Ok - looks like y'all right about the Secret Service agent's thumb - it took no damage.

    However ... here's the key evidence, from the 13:24 mark to the 23:32 mark of Chris Martenson's The FBI and Regime Media Work Together To Busy The Investigation - Peak Prosperity video, posted five days ago now.

    The first three shots are more muffled (reduced high frequencies), as if shot from inside a building, not from on the roof.



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    There doesn't seem to be an opening in the side of this building through which a shooter can fire a weapon
    The hole under the eaves only needed to be open for a minute or so, at the moment of the shooting. There was plenty of time, in the days prior to the rally, to get all the positions, holes, podium, ... lined up just right.

    I've no doubt that a couple of legitimate Secret Service counter-snipers and Secret Service agents who worked close body security for Trump would have willingly gone alone with a plot to expose their libtard, Satanic, DEI, ... management.

    Those few willing counter-snipers and agents would have had to:
    • Clear the interior of Bldg #6 (and/or swear to secrecy any locals not cleared), just during the couple of minutes of the shootings. Given the natural tendency of the sort of men who do this work for real to handle secrecy, to support their colleagues, and to disrespect DEI-woke (mis)management, getting the cooperation of any of the local cops who "saw a bit too much" should be a no-brainer.
    • Clear the area right behind Trump's podium (between the podium and the central bleacher behind the podium) of any photographers who might otherwise have gotten an image of Trump's ear (very much not yet injured) as Trump grabbed his right ear and dropped down.
    • Arrange for Trump to deliberately and for several sentences turn his head to his right, as part of his prepared remarks, so that no professional photographers of the rally could see his right ear.
    • Open the previously aligned hole under the eaves of AGR Bldg #6 to allow one of them, a skilled sniper, to shoot three shots _over_ Trump's head by a foot or so. No one was seriously hurt by these shots.
    • Trump would, as planned and agreed to, react to the sound of the first bullet going over his head by grabbing his right ear and dropping to the floor. That's why Trump's reaction seems to be at a slightly slower and more deliberate pace than some of us would expect from an actual hit on his ear.
    • That sniper under the eaves would immediately close the hole under the eaves.
    • That initial shooter could then remain there, above the false ceiling in Bldg #6 for a few hours, until the "right" people had secured the first floor and let him down.
    • Meanwhile one of the first close body agents to pile on Trump would covertly cut Trump's right ear, while Trump was at the bottom of the pile.
    • Simultaneously let/guide the patsy on the roof to fire some shots. These shots did not risk the quickly protected Trump, but did risk (and kill one of) the audience in the line of fire.

    Meanwhile, the entire deep state crowd thinks that their can't fail Presidential Assassination operation failed, by a miraculous miss. I'd not be surprised if a couple of laundry services in the D.C. area noticed an increase in soiled underwear, in the day or two following the failed assassination attempt.

    ===

    I have no doubt but that Trump, a master showman by temperament, a highly successful professional actor (the "Apprentice") , a huge WWE wrestling fan, and a close colleague for decades with two Kennedy sons and one Nixon who have known up close and personal the nature of real Presidential assassinations, would easily handle such a role when it has this much leverage on the success of this major, multi-decade operation to take down the Satanic bastards who murdered two of their fathers, who destroyed three of the most iconic buildings in Trump's home town, and who are well along the way to permanently destroying this nation.

    I cannot imagine the Deep State running a major operation like this, relying solely on the accuracy of one patsy on the roof. They had to think and know that they had a real sniper, with a close up, can't miss, shot, getting off the first shots.

    ===

    Since there are two shooters, from different distances, by perhaps some (if I recall) 40 feet, the "crack-boom" delays could have, and may well have been, arranged ahead of time to not reveal these two distinct distances, by having the first shooter, the professional sniper under the eaves, shoot a slower round. Serious snipers shoot high speed rounds for greater accuracy and lethality at long ranges ... but these first few shots needed neither such range nor lethality. These first shots were shot for the sound, not the long range lethality.

    But the frequency spectra of the shot sounds, three from inside a building versus however many the patsy on the roof gets off from on the roof, are distinctly different, as noted in Chris Martenson's above linked video.

    Since noticing this, Chris Martenson has not gone back to it, but rather has turned his substantial "alternative media" fire power on the corrupt Secret Service management. I'd speculate that Chris is doing so knowingly, deliberately, and quite willingly ... someone "read him in". Good.
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    Perhaps the blood in the Bldg #6 bathroom sink was deliberately placed there, by the covert pro-Trump operatives, in order to give rise to a dozen various "second shooter" narratives, at least eleven of which (like my wounded thumb narrative above) could be easily dismissed by the facts.

    That's a typical way to cover-up potentially inconvenient evidence ... plant some more evidence that will send us conspiracy theorists down a bunch of rabbit holes to nowhere. Even if one of those rabbit holes hits pay dirt, none but a few "nut cases" who spent far too much time contemplating these puzzle pieces will figure it out, and no one else will believe them.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    [*]Arrange for Trump to deliberately and for several sentences turn his head to his right, as part of his prepared remarks, so that no professional photographers of the rally could see his right ear.
    I do not believe it would even be possible to choreograph -- with zero margin for error -- a turn of the head a split second before a shot was fired at it. Nor do I believe Trump would sign off on anything quite so dangerous (actually, demented).

    It is to my mind infinitely more likely this photographer is present -- with his super-camera and its 8000th of a second shutter speed -- to immortalise the moment that orange man got blown away on the stage of one of his rallies.

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    [*]Trump would, as planned and agreed to, react to the sound of the first bullet going over his head by grabbing his right ear and dropping to the floor. That's why Trump's reaction seems to be at a slightly slower and more deliberate pace than some of us would expect from an actual hit on his ear.
    Without an earpiece (which he clearly isn't wearing) he'd have no way to coordinate this movement in perfect time with the shot. I think it's pretty clear that what we see in the footage is Trump momentarily stunned by what sounded like a gunshot, which he obviously wasn't expecting.

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    [*]Meanwhile one of the first close body agents to pile on Trump would covertly cut Trump's right ear, while Trump was at the bottom of the pile.
    Except he's got blood on his hand before he even hits the ground. It's very clear in the images.

    -Shot rings out
    -A bullet strikes Trump's ear
    -He reacts instinctively, reaching for that ear
    -Hand comes away with a streak of blood

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    There doesn't seem to be an opening in the side of this building through which a shooter can fire a weapon
    You mean no vents like the two that I added arrows pointing to, in the lower right of this image:

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    I do not believe it would even be possible to choreograph -- with zero margin for error -- a turn of the head a split second before a shot was fired at it.
    I totally agree.

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    Nor do I believe Trump would sign off on anything quite so dangerous (actually, demented).
    I totally agree that Trump would not agree to something as extremely risky as taking a shot in the ear.

    If he expected the sniper to deliberately miss, that would be far less risky. Given Trump's essential need to clear out some traitors from the Secret Service, lest he be taken out by them as was JFK, it was essential that Trump run a high stakes sting operation on the Secret Service. Essential. Trump's a master at high stakes sting operations.

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    It is to my mind infinitely more likely this photographer is present -- with his super-camera and its 8000th of a second shutter speed -- to immortalise the moment that orange man got blown away on the stage of one of his rallies.
    I totally agree - that photographer expected to get the "kill shot" of a lifetime.


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    Without an earpiece (which he clearly isn't wearing) he'd have no way to coordinate this movement in perfect time with the shot.
    Huh - he had a trivial way to coordinate his movement - react to the sound of the first bullet fired just above his head. Trump is an actor - years on camera in the lead role of the "Apprentice" television series - and he's a bit of a "natural" ham to begin with. This is for a role that he's likely spent years imagining, in some scenario or other.

    No one with Trump's strategic thinking and warrior temperament would spend decades aware that he might become, and then being, and then planning to become again, the President of the United States, taking on the Deep State that assassinated the fathers of two of his trusted colleagues, the Kennedy sons and ran out of office another deeply helpful colleague (same office building floor in Manhattan, for quite a while after Nixon left office), without imagining various assassination scenarios, and how to turn them to his advantage.

    Trump absolutely knew, that once all else had failed to take him down, they'd shoot to kill, and the Secret Service would be part of the plot.

    I further have no doubt but that Trump's intelligence into Deep State operations was sufficiently accurate that Trump knew, going into Butler, PA, that that was the day that the Deep State planned to blow his brains out, on live TV.

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    I think it's pretty clear that what we see in the footage is Trump momentarily stunned by what sounded like a gunshot, which he obviously wasn't expecting.
    Others have looked at Trump and thought his reaction was a couple tenths of a second delayed and more deliberate than they'd guess a shot to the earlobe would cause.

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Except he's got blood on his hand before he even hits the ground. It's very clear in the images.
    I don't see clear blood - just a slightly different shade and tint of shadow, where his fingers are most bent.

    Or perhaps there was a little bit of stage blood, that Trump applied in his first touching his ear, with actual damage applied seconds later, by a Secret Service agent on top of him, with a sharp tool. That first little bit of stage blood would never receive the high resolution image scrutiny of his mangled ear, but would cover for just such initial quick glimpses as you observe.

    Whatever happened ... it was either a miracle ... or a meticulously planned sting operation. Since I attend the Church of Q, not of Christ, you can guess what I'm guessing .

    As I note above, such a sting operation is Essential to keeping Trump alive in the coming few years. Trump, a long time colleague of Nixon and of the Kennedy sons and a long time student and enemy of New York City and Washington DC Satanic evil, knows this, to the very core of his being.
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    Trump's a master at high stakes sting operations.
    Recall something I posted earlier in this thread:
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Trump has been playing this game for a long time. We don't know how much incriminating evidence those working with him accumulated, but I'd wager it would be a lot.

    If Trump's team planned counter-op succeeded, as it did, then it would have been obvious ahead of time that certain evidence would have to be collected, before that evidence was destroyed.

    For some fascinating background on Trump, read this tweet. Note in particular how Trump planned to capture incriminating evidence against the Mob, before he even built his Atlantic City casino, by apparently planting bugs in the rooms (reading between the lines here).
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    Given all the above, the only people at Butler that day that needed to know of Trump's planned counter-assassination sting operation would have been (1) the sniper(s) who the Deep State thought they had signed up to take the real kill shots (which would be blamed on the patsy), (2) a couple of Trump's closest Secret Service security agents, and (3) Trump himself.

    In turn, given that, it makes perfect sense to me that Trump could and would get his surrounding guard of agents to stop, while taking him off stage, so that he could raise his fist in victory and yell "Fight, fight, fight!".

    Once the (apparent and patsy) shooter was known to be taken down, Trump and his couple best agents knew they had just won, Big Time. There were no other threats. The remainder of agents surrounding Trump who were not used to working such personal protection operations together, would naturally hesitate if Trump and his couple of closest agents hesitated.

    Trump also knew that it was essential that the world know, right then and there, before any further nefarious activity might occur behind the scenes at some hospital, that Trump was alive and well and vigorous.
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    ...

    ... my own conclusions tend to consider that Trump himself was the art director and director of this Hollywood production with real bullets a la "Rush". That starting point is either fake or is real and it could not be real the way it was allowed to happen. It was all scripted!

    The reason why one can deduce the event was scripted is that Trump himself signaled it at the introduction for the description of the graphics on the giant screens"
    "You guys don't mind if I go off prompter/script, do you?"
    Right there signaling he was going to the alternate script...his own.

    That would alert the alleged sniper to squeeze the trigger at the "what" of the cue line "... if you look at what hap/[click]-pened/[paw]... the rest is perfect theatre with beautifully shot pictures, etc...

    The location manager scout did a fine job of finding an empty site for the "tournage"

    My bet is that the patsy Crooks had a tapped cross for his spot to lie on...

    The pictures of his head all bloodied with a stream of coagulated, desiccated blood on his face contrasting with fresh, liquid blood on the roof below made me think of a very scary Halloween mask for some zombie apocalypse strolling...

    Then of course, the rivulet of blood going down the roof was quickly javexed so as to avoid curious inquisitive mind to snatch a sample for analysis and check if it's even human blood.

    Also, most of LEOs anywhere belong to the slave masonry brotherhood... with only one master. So that makes it easy to find big carpets to shove embarrassing things under.

    Anyway, from there, it's all turtles!

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    This is really strange; at 34:00 to 37:03 in this video it shows one cop bringing out a rifle and carefully leaning it up near the door and then shortly after another operater/agent casually comes in to frame and suspiciously looks around to see if anyone is watching him and then in a nonchalantly manner grabs this rifle and walks off.
    Could this be the second shooters gun? Something absolutely doesn't look right about this.....

    There's also something very odd and suspicious about this Greg Nichol dude too, and a couple of others in his little circle.

    I'm still leaning towards Crooks as the only shooter but I am NOT 100% there yet. Just too many weird things going on for sure.

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    It was all scripted!
    Ah - yes - but the best scripts are so real that almost all the actors never realize they're acting ... they're each just "doing their thing." Even those who know they're acting are playing a role they're quite skilled at.
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