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    https://x.com/RT_com/status/1823107189462245482



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    Foreign fighters involved in Kursk assault – Ukrainian soldier
    A Ukrainian soldier who was captured in Kursk Region amid Kiev’s ongoing cross-border offensive has claimed that foreign mercenaries are fighting for Ukraine on Russian soil.

    Footage of an interview with the detainee was released by Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) on Monday. The agency claimed that the man shown in the footage was captured with the help of local residents in Kursk Region. The Ukrainian identified himself as a 26-year-old member of his country's 80th Air Assault Brigade, which is taking part in the offensive.

    Ruslan Poltoratsky, as he introduced himself, said he first heard foreign radio chatter when crossing the Russian border and initially thought it was some kind of interference.

    “They spoke in English, Polish, maybe French. I did not understand them, called on the radio to repeat, and only heard gibberish in response,” he said.

    He later concluded that the communications were local, since Ukrainian military officials were responding.

    “There was something about houses and gunshots in the background,” he claimed.

    Poltoratsky also mentioned that a brigade “made up of those who used to be in jail” was taking part in the Kursk Region offensive. He was apparently referring to a unit composed of convicts who volunteered in exchange for early release from prison.

    Ukraine has been using foreign fighters to bolster its military since the early days of the conflict with Russia, creating an ‘International Legion’ for volunteers. Moscow has described them as mercenaries and has accused Western nations of facilitating the recruitment of their citizens with combat experience.

    The practice of embedding foreign fighters into the Ukrainian military predates the ongoing hostilities, as evidenced by a group known as the Georgian Legion. It features Georgian citizens in its ranks and was created in 2014. The unit is also in Kursk Region, according to a source cited last week by military news outlet The War Zone.

    READ MORE: Mercenaries from Georgia fighting in Russia’s Kursk Region – media
    The legion is known for videos in which members are shown torturing and executing Russian prisoners in March 2022. Russia considers the Georgian Legion a terrorist organization and a tool of Ukrainian military intelligence.
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Putin No Talks, Kiev Regime Change Needed;
    Ukr Heavy Losses,
    Kursk Stalled,
    Pokrovsk Battle Starts


    Starting at 42:30, Alexander Mercouris reports again from his well-connected source who earlier had told him that Russia knew all about this Kursk incursion plan well before it had been launched, and had allowed it to happen.

    He now enlarges on this, saying that his source had accurately specified what the Russian military counter-incursion tactics would be, essentially springing ambushes just about everywhere in this thickly forested region that then forced the Ukrainians to spread their forces wider and therefore dilute and weaken them.

    Mercouris confirms that to the best of his understanding, this is EXACTLY how the Russians have been dealing with this. (And very effectively, too.)

    The significance is that this rather strongly tends to support his source also having been accurate about the Russian foreknowledge of this entire operation.

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    • Putin Says There Will Be No Peace Negotiations While 180,000 Civilians Are Being Evacuated:
    Ukraine, through Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrsky, says it has seized approximately 1,000 square kilometers of Russian territory. Russian authorities are evacuating as many as 180,000 citizens from various border regions. More than 120,000 people have left their homes and another 60,000 are awaiting evacuation. According to the Bloomberg news agency, the Ukrainian army has captured 28 towns and villages.
    • No peace talks
    The country launched an offensive in the Kursk border region last week. Russian President Putin has said that Kiev is trying to strengthen its own negotiating position by destabilizing Russia. Putin emphasized during a speech on Monday that there will be no peace talks now. He said there is no point in talking to people who target civilians and nuclear power plants.

    • Russians continue to advance
    The Russian president also said that the West is waging war against Russia and is using the Ukrainians for that purpose. Meanwhile, the Russian army is attacking Ukrainian positions in the Sumy region, which borders Kursk. The Russians also continue to advance in eastern Ukraine. There they try to break through the positions around Torezk and Pokrovsk.


    Russian troops attack Ukrainian armored vehicles in Kursk:

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    NATO and its Kiev proxy in last roll of the dice



    The NATO NeoNazi regime in Kiev is going for broke, as its Third Reich forbears did during World War Two. This time around, though, the fascists have a nuclear terrorist card to play.

    As in the endgame of World War Two, the Nazi Wehrmacht tried to break out in Kursk as a way to divert from battlefield losses elsewhere on the crumbling Eastern Front. The gamble proved futile then and looks like repeating disastrously today.

    Vladimir Zelensky, the illegitimate puppet president of Ukraine, is out of troops and money. His insufferable begging routine for more weapons and money has become played out. His country is set to default on eye-watering debts to international creditors. Russia's military advances in the Donbass - formerly eastern Ukraine now part of the Russian Federation - have succeeded in pushing the Kiev regime to the brink of collapse despite the latter receiving hundreds of billions of dollars worth of NATO weaponry.

    Zelensky, who is still clinging on to power nearly six months after he cancelled elections, senses the end is nigh for his corrupt regime and its war racket. With over 600,000 dead soldiers and remaining civilians hiding or fleeing in fear of conscription, the ex-comedian throws the dice with a few brigades despatched on a suicide cross-border raid on Russia's Kursk region.

    "The Kursk maneuver could herald the end of Ukraine militarily," remarked Gustav Gressel, a former Austrian defense ministry official, in an interview with Der Spiegel.

    Gressel suggested that the Ukrainian brigades represent the final reserves for the NATO-backed Kiev regime. Once they are wiped out by the superior Russian forces then there will be nothing left for the Kiev side.

    If Kiev's other objective is to divert Russian forces from Donbass, that doesn't seem to be working. Russian forces continue to make gains in the direction of Donbass - the main battlefield of this conflict.

    So, what is the Zelensky junta playing at? It's a terror tantrum to try to show his NATO sponsors that their proxy regime is still worth backing. The wasting of Ukrainian military lives is a desperate "working off loans for his masters", as Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova put it.

    Sending his people to die is Zelensky's attempt to show his regime is still "liquid". But it's a final act of desperation. When this futile foray into Kursk is spent then it's over.

    As part of the final desperate act, the nuclear terrorism card is also being played - again.


    While the incursion in Kursk is going on, the Ukrainian side has tried to attack the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant and the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant. The ZNPP has come under constant shelling from the Armed Forces of Ukraine enabled with U.S.-made HIMARS missiles and other NATO weapons since Russia took over the civilian power plant - the largest in Europe - soon after the conflict erupted in February 2022. Russia took control at an earlier stage precisely because it anticipated that if it didn't, the Kiev regime would use it as a false flag provocation regardless of the radiological contamination of Europe.

    continue: https://strategic-culture.su/news/20...-roll-of-dice/

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    This very interesting commentary from Apti Alaudinov, commander of the Akhmat forces:

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    "We received very interesting materials - the entire layout of the operation itself, which was being prepared, what forces were involved, what was planned. So what can I say to Zelensky, who has expired?

    On the 11th, you had to take the Kurchatov NPP. Today is the 14th. Your 11,600 or 11,900 people and the number of tanks that were involved did not complete the task. And you are sitting there with Syrsky, listening to this turkey.

    You did not complete the task. But all the resources that you had more or less in working order, it turns out, you threw them into the furnace, from where they will not come out. Most of the equipment that was thrown in our direction has already been destroyed.

    I want to tell everyone who is watching me: friends, this blitzkrieg of Zelensky, which was planned with the seizure of the nuclear power plant in Kurchatov and the start of negotiations with an ultimatum for us to leave somewhere and do something, failed.

    From now on, we will systematically destroy every fascist who got onto our territory.
    We have already bitten with our teeth and it is unlikely that we will let the enemy go until we tear out his Adam's apple. Our teeth are tough, strong. Russia is a country that God loves. This is not Ukraine. So, excuse me. That is why the guys have been hammering the enemy since the morning, they have destroyed a lot of the enemy.

    To be honest, all these days I have been thinking - I knew that the fighting would have to end in the fall of 2024. But I had no understanding of what could serve as a reason for all these forces to somehow surrender, I could not understand this. Now I already have a clear understanding.

    God did everything to blow these people's heads off, they all gathered together and rushed here so that we could destroy them and thus end this war."
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    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1823744476126360053



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    FOR THE KURSK MASSACRE, THE RUSSIANS ARE STARTING TO HUNT DOWN THE UKRAINIANS AS VERMIN, AND THE "SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE" HAVE REVOLTED AGAINST ZELENSKY. News exclusively from Ukrainian sources!

    The tables are beginning to turn and for the terrorist attack on Russia, Ukrainian ambulances and helicopters are now working 1000% because the Russian military took it as a personal eradication of the pest.

    To be clear right away from our point of view: if a Ukrainian soldier shoots XYZ Russian soldiers, it's not terrorism. But when the legal Ukrainian army started liquidating civilians and destroying their homes and facilities for no reason, the naming is clear. These are not random missiles, but a programmed attack on civilians.
    And, perhaps surprisingly to many, since the open attacks on Zelensky for acting like a Nazi and just following orders from the outside have already begun, many Ukrainian journalists have begun to write more credibly than some of the Russian propaganda.

    So everything today is from various Ukrainian sources!

    And another pearl: after Putin's harsh criticism of the glorification chant in the news, since yesterday the achievements of the Russian army have also stopped being written about, until the army gives permission. Guess where our mass media were now getting their news from? From Russian sources, because they were restrained today!

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    The West is Stirring: The West certainly knew about the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ upcoming provocation in the Kursk region. Certainly approved and supported it. Western speakers are beginning to join in supporting this provocation.

    “This creates a real dilemma for Putin, and we are in direct, ongoing contact with the Ukrainians. That’s all I can say about it while the offensive continues,” Biden says.

    “I discussed with D. Kuleba the latest events on the front line and the Kursk counteroffensive. I expressed my full support for the struggle of the Ukrainian people,” writes J. Borrell.

    Ukraine has every right to “defend its territories by attacking the Kursk region,” stated Finnish President A. Stubb.

    The support group list will be expanded in the near future.

    Here it is necessary to record the reasons for such dynamics and its consequences.

    Reasons:

    🔹 The West feared a complete failure. Attempts to distance themselves from the provocation in the first days were associated with the risks of failure of the Ukrainian Armed Forces already at the initial stage. Since this did not happen, and the military actions are dragging on, the leaders of Western countries, on the one hand, are trying to capitalize on the interim success, and on the other, to create conditions for further escalation.

    🔹 The West needs visible successes. More than three months have passed since the announcement of the decision to allocate a new American aid package to Ukraine, and instead of news about Ukraine’s successes, Western audiences read about the risks of a collapse of the front for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The approaching American elections require the Democrats to demonstrate results. In addition, D. Trump is actively criticizing the current American authorities precisely for the senseless spending of the United States on the Ukrainian conflict. Probably, in September-October, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will resort to new provocations in order to help their sponsors.

    🔹 Escalation for the sake of escalation. The West is trying to break the deadlock that has developed for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. To do this, the supply of F-16s to Ukraine was accelerated. To do this, the US partially lifted restrictions on the use of delivered missiles for strikes on Russian territory. The resources for further escalation were again exhausted. There was nothing to legitimize the lifting of all restrictions on the use of missiles for strikes deep in the Russian rear. Now that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be harshly squeezed out of Russian territory, and part of the Ukrainian group will probably end up surrounded, Ukraine will put pressure on the West with demands to give full carte blanche for further escalation. Such a campaign is already underway

    Consequences:

    🔻 Impossible negotiations. The parties to the conflict have already recorded the lack of prospects for peace negotiations. This was generally obvious before, but now the trend towards escalation has been officially recorded, so to speak. New provocations will push hypothetical negotiations even further away. The topic will not be returned to before the spring of 2025.

    🔻 Reconsideration of relations. The prospects for dialogue with the US on strategic security issues are becoming extremely vague. It is rather strange to discuss strategic weapons, preventing nuclear weapons in space with a party that supports, sponsors and directly develops attacks on your territory.

    🔻 Change of assessments. In the near future, there should be a global change in approaches, assessments and semantic contours around the role of the West in the conflict in Ukraine. Now it is not about supporting Ukraine, but about supporting an act of aggression against Russia.

    Let’s watch.

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    Very poignant. This is clearly a good man (as many in the Ukrainian military surely are), who's simply been lied to and manipulated over and over again by their ruthless commanders and politicians.

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    ‼️🇷🇺Epic footage of the rescue of a conscript from the Kursk region.

    ▪️The guy was one of the first to meet superior enemy forces - he did not raise his hands and gave battle. And when he realized that resistance was useless, he fled into the forest.

    ▪️From there, the soldier contacted his mother, who reported the information to "Helping Hand", asking to save her son. Volunteers passed the data to the military - contract soldiers with the call signs Tikhyi and Sibir volunteered to pull the soldier out. They established communication and spent two days leading the interlocutor to the Russian rear.

    ▪️The Ukrainian Armed Forces desperately tried to disrupt the operation, shot the conscript in the back and attacked with FPV drones. He managed to eliminate at least two Ukrainians with return fire. The video shows the happy ending of the special operation: Tikhyi and Sibir notice a guy on the road, quickly pick him up and evacuate him home.
    - RVvoenkor

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    ‼️🇷🇺🏴‍☠️Battles on the Kursk Front: the enemy sends raiding parties forward, the Russian army puts them to flight and destroys them

    ▪️The infantry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine penetrated the Kamyshny area through the forests, but was discovered.

    ▪️The enemy infantry group was identified by our intelligence in a forest plantation. After only the first explosion above them, the Nazis ran away.

    ▪️Then the house in which they hid was covered with fire from heavy guns

    ▪️The Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to attempt raids on a parallel section along the Belitsa-Gir'i line, where a few days earlier a column of the 92nd Brigade on an BTR-4 was ambushed and completely destroyed.
    - RVvoenkor

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    ⚡️ The losses of the AFU in the direction of Kursk during the 24 hours amounted to up to 270 men and 16 armoured vehicles, according to the Russian Defence Ministry.

    In total, the AFU lost up to 2,300 militants and 37 tanks during the fighting in the region, the Ministry noted.

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    🇷🇺Grigory Karasin (Member of the Federation Council):

    “These days, Zelensky and his associates must be having sleepless nights. They can't help but realize that they have gone too far and provoked the anger and fury of the entire Russian society. And that is already a serious factor! Such things don't happen often, but when they do, they always lead to the disgraceful downfall of any of our adversaries, especially when, in the heat of self-affirming propaganda, they forget the lessons of history.

    Why, pray tell, were formations of thugs sent to the Kursk region? For what purpose? To intimidate Russia, to scare the ordinary residents of this region, to snatch a piece of our territory? These actions contradict sound political reasoning and foreshadow the imminent downfall of a regime that has become overconfident in its own ambitions.

    As for the Western patrons of the current authorities in Kyiv, they seem to refuse to grasp what is happening.

    And that's a great pity!”

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    🇺🇦 In Kiev, a man was selling grenade launchers on internet sites and sending them to buyers by post

    The man has already managed to sell one grenade launcher for 40,000 UAH ($968), but when he tried to sell the second one, he was arrested.

    Police are now trying to identify the person who bought the first grenade launcher.

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    ‼️🇺🇦🏴‍☠️183 settlements are subject to priority evacuation from the Sumy region bordering Russia, - the Head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine
    ▪️More than 20,000 people have already been evacuated, including almost 2,500 children.
    ▪️Shelling of the Sumy region has sharply increased after the start of the Ukrainian Armed Forces offensive on the Kursk region. According to the Sumy Regional Military Administration, the intensity of KAB strikes has increased dozens of times.
    ▪️The Aerospace Forces are striking at Ukrainian forces concentrating to attack Russia.
    - RVvoenkor


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    ‼️🇺🇦🏴‍☠️The invasion of the Kursk region resulted in the death of many Ukrainian soldiers: more and more Ukrainians are surrendering to our fighters

    ▪️The Ukrainian soldiers captured in the region complain that they were forcibly mobilized.

    ▪️They say that the invasion of Russia is the biggest stupidity, they call on their comrades to lay down their arms and save their lives.
    - RVvoenkor

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