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    Plausibility, Denied: Chris Martenson on DarkHorse
    Bret and Chris discuss the Trump shooting and many of the questions that must be asked in the weeks following the event.

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v590ywd/?pub=mpxgj
    ~~~

    Definitely recommending this.
    Chris Martenson and Bret Weinstein are two of the smartest people you'd ever wish to listen to in a conversation about anything at all. In the main section about the Trump shooting, they go slow and methodically all the way from 20:40 (approx) to near the end of the video.

    For anyone interested in this but who's not caught up with all the fine detail that's been gradually emerging, this is a first-rate summary conversation.

    ~~~

    The one thing that (in my opinion) wasn't discussed enough, and is a whole important topic of its own, is how the accelerating fast-forward news cycle is deliberately taken advantage of by the Deep State (or whoever the heck is really running things) to obfuscate and memory-hole any inconvenient truths (or anomalous events) from being seriously discussed — or even remember4ed at all.

    There's not enough free human time and attention any more to attend properly to ANY of this, save for just a tiny few who stick at it all. What that means is that seriously bad things can happen more and more blatantly with minimal risk of of any exposure for what they really are.

    The even greater risk (also another topic) is that because of this, AI will be used to 'assist' people's thinking and belief-forming about global events in a torrent-flood of new information in the media every day. That's how the once-conceived threat of open discussion on social media will be handled. Social media is close to not really mattering any more.

    The Trump shooting is a prime case study of exactly this. It's merely an example of what's happening now. Martenson and Weinstein started off by talking about this bigger picture, but after 20 minutes focused much closely in on the fine details of the event itself.


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    Quote 8/18
    Plausibility, Denied: Chris Martenson on DarkHorse
    Bret and Chris discuss the Trump shooting and many of the questions that must be asked in the weeks following the event.

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v590ywd/?pub=mpxgj
    Not even 9 minutes into this and I am already blown away. I am so frustrated because I have to start my work day. I hope the moderators make a separate thread for this.
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    ...hmmm... must be the wrong doppelganger or the wrong mask or... did it ever happen?
    Or simply a top of the line cosmetic surgeon and a reasonably healthy patient.

    The injury was rather superficial to begin with ... more bloody than structural.
    [...]
    Well, the question actually is: Was there an injury?

    In these times of Hypernovelty, can one blindly trust the "experts"?



    Correlation (bullet flying on snuff movie set) doesn't necessarily imply causation (alleged bleeding ear)... as in: that's it: there's the culprit: the butler bullet did it! Well... did it?

    Ritual blood sacrifice right there, live on CNN! "I tell you, I saw it..."

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    The injury was rather superficial to begin with ... more bloody than structural.
    [...]
    Well, the question actually is: Was there an injury?
    Yes - to quote the letter from Ronny L Jackson that your post displays:
    Quote Given the broad and blunt nature of the wound itself, no sutures were required.
    That fits with what I observed and stated ... "more bloody than structural."

    Superficial wounds in areas with good blood supply in healthy patients heal quickly.

    Ronny L Jackson also states that President Trump "sustained a gun shot wound to the right ear from a high-powered rifle used by the would be assassin."

    Ronny L Jackson does not have expert knowledge of such details as to what caused the wound. He's not a crime scene expert with sufficient evidence from that crime scene and the events at the time of the crime to know that beyond a reasonable doubt. He's just supporting his patient's narrative there. He knows he's doing that; Trump knows he's doing that. We can know he's doing that, if our brains work well enough to know such things and we've observed what's happened, including the scope of the subsequent crime scene investigation (or cover-up and destruction thereof).

    But Ronny L. Jackson wouldn't have his current job with Trump if he wasn't willing to publicly support key narratives like that. He wasn't testifying in an honorable court of law, but rather in the court of public opinion.

    Jackson's comments on the nature of the wound I accept as likely true ... he saw the wound first hand and he is an expert in such matters.

    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    Correlation (bullet flying on snuff movie set) doesn't necessarily imply causation (alleged bleeding ear)... as in: that's it: there's the culprit: the butler bullet did it! Well... did it?
    We agree
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    There's not enough free human time and attention any more to attend properly to ANY of this, save for just a tiny few who stick at it all. What that means is that seriously bad things can happen more and more blatantly with minimal risk of of any exposure for what they really are.
    That the scope of knowledge required to master a subject area exceeds what can fit in the mind of any individual human being does not mean that that subject area is necessarily doomed or hopelessly corrupted.

    A half century ago, I knew the nature of and had hands on skills in working with every detail of the computer I worked on, from the logic gates, wires, connectors, solder joints, individual memory bits that I could see (little magnetic donuts), on up. I had designed and written every line of code in that system. I coded that system in raw machine code, assembly code, and higher level C. I knew the compiler, linker, assembler tools I used and repaired and extended them as necessary. I wrote the drivers for all its disk, network, and sensor devices. I designed, developed and maintained the data management and user interface. I was as skilled with a solder iron as I was with a code editor. What's more, this was my first project, at my first job after graduating with a computer science degree (which studies covered almost none of the above details) ... I was a relative newbie.

    No human being comes even remotely close to such mastery of the computer that now sits before me on my desktop, into which I am typing this. No way.

    Thus is the way of all technologies that humans make substantial use of and advancement in their mastery thereof.

    It's not the size of the human mind that's the controlling limit on the integrity of such an effort.

    It's the integrity of our civilization's institutions.

    The people who asked Trump to run, almost a decade ago now, are engaged in a major effort to expose some of the corruption in our institutions and restore some of their lost integrity.

    They successfully turned this assassination attempt into a sting operation, further exposing the corruption.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    [...]

    Jackson's comments on the nature of the wound I accept as likely true ... he saw the wound first hand and he is an expert in such matters.

    [...]
    There we go... I guess "Hypernovelty" has been postponed...

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    Thus is the way of all technologies that humans make substantial use of and advancement in their mastery thereof.

    It's not the size of the human mind that's the controlling limit on the integrity of such an effort.

    It's the integrity of our civilization's institutions.

    The people who asked Trump to run, almost a decade ago now, are engaged in a major effort to expose some of the corruption in our institutions and restore some of their lost integrity.

    They successfully turned this assassination attempt into a sting operation, further exposing the corruption.
    This in turn highlights why I spend time studying the details of this and earlier such "events" (JFK, 9/11, ...).

    It's the same way I spend time studying the details of a computer software crash/bug/glitch/...

    The goal is not only to "fix" the bug (I certainly can't "fix" JFK's death or 9/11 or Microsoft Windows).

    The goal is also to understand how the larger corruption of people, institutions and ideologies led to that failure, that I might either contribute to remediating those larger concerns, or at least better avoid or defend myself from them.

    In software terms, don't just fix the bug. Also fix or remove if you can, and as best you can, the problems (be they people or tools or software architecture or whatever) that caused or allowed that bug to exist.

    If you can't fix it and its causes, at least avoid it, as in Microsoft Windows or allopathic medicine, or remove it, as in "silver" dental fillings.

    I've studied this failed assassination attempt of Trump in Butler, PA in sufficient detail to conclude that it was a serious attempt, by the institutions and using the tactics, similar to earlier JFK/RFK/MLK assassinations, except that this time, the target of the assassination and his people successfully saw it coming and the intended hit job was flipped into a sting operation exposing from yet another angle some of the deeply embedded corruption in our U.S. government and associated institutions.

    It was not just a Let It Happen problem, that could perhaps be remedied by firing a few incompetents.

    It was, yet again, a Make It Happen problem, the remedy of which requires removing the influence of some profoundly evil families and spirits, and then reconstituting the institutions they so deeply corrupted, outside of their evil influence.
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    Probable confirmation in the video below of the source of the ninth shot. It came directly following Crooks' burst of five. Purportedly, this single round of counter-fire struck Crooks' weapon, disorienting him in the process if not disarming him completely (after this no more shots were fired from the AGR roof).

    The cop who took the shot belonged to Butler SWAT. He was walking the perimeter at the time. He's on his feet, out in the open and firing unsupported, so it's highly unlikely he was part of any 'script'. He identified the shooter and took spontaneous action -- he did his job. It was an excellent shot that likely saved the day.

    Bodycam: Butler SWAT Hit Trump Shooter Before Secret Service Snipers
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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Probable confirmation in the video below of the source of the ninth shot. It came directly following Crooks' burst of five. Purportedly, this single round of counter-fire struck Crooks' weapon, disorienting him in the process if not disarming him completely (after this no more shots were fired from the AGR roof).

    The cop who took the shot belonged to Butler SWAT. He was walking the perimeter at the time. He's on his feet, out in the open and firing unsupported, so it's highly unlikely he was part of any 'script'. He identified the shooter and took spontaneous action -- he did his job. It was an excellent shot that likely saved the day.

    Bodycam: Butler SWAT Hit Trump Shooter Before Secret Service Snipers
    It's astonishing that over a month later it actually takes basic researchers and alternative media to pin down and figure out where shot #9 came from.

    This whole event wouldn't even be talked about anymore if we only had MSM and "officials" releasing information. Quite ridiculous to say the least.
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    new hypothesis....

    from the moment I saw Trump on the day of the assassination attempt I presumed the bullet came in the direction from behind his head - went through his ear and took blood in it's wake ... hence the streaks on his face - I was surprised that it was said to be the other way round -

    After listening to (most of) the Chris Martenson and Bret Weinstein conversation # 1381 above..... and the fact that so much of the Official Narrative doesn't make sense...even if the lack of sense is supposed to be explained away by incompetence etc etc......my mind went back to my initial impression that the bullet came from behind Trump - and if it did this would change everything....

    Anyone interested can go onto Google Maps and pull up the Butler Farm Show Site PA.... and look at the terrain -
    go to Main Street - just above is Concession Road - the three buildings there - (white, grey, white) were behind where the stage etc was.... you can see to the north the building where Crooks was alleged to have been lurking and then shot - (but was he?)

    If you go in the opposite direction - more or less the same distance (so the shots/sound analysis still stands) at the side of Alexi Lane, on the left, just down from the junction with Brady Paul Lane.... there's a darkish grey roof of a building with some over hanging tree branches on it's left hand side...... maybe THAT is where the would~be assassin shot from...?

    If I could do a screen shot I would but it's easy (ish) to find...

    IF - and I just speculate IF that is where the (at least the first 3) shots came from that would mean that all the other 'evidence' including those who claimed to see someone on the (building 6?) roof and all the Body Cams - and whatnot.... is misdirection.... and there could be quite a few people 'in on' the misdirection...?

    Just one example of something that didn't make sense - Martenson and Weinstein were talking of how preposterous it was that the area where Crooks body was allegedly found on the roof was hosed down within hours..... well maybe that wasn't to get rid of any evidence but to hide the fact that there was no evidence that Crooks had been shot there...

    ???

    edit to add.... it's all kind of chit chat now isn't it, because, like the JFK assassination and 9/11.... I doubt we will ever get to the bottom of it with solid 100% certainty... regarding all the details + named perpetrators....
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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    If you go in the opposite direction - more or less the same distance (so the shots/sound analysis still stands) at the side of Alexi Lane, on the left, just down from the junction with Brady Paul Lane.... there's a darkish grey roof of a building with some over hanging tree branches on it's left hand side...... maybe THAT is where the would~be assassin shot from...?
    I doubt it.

    There are at least a half dozen audio recordings, from various microphones and mobile phones, that various people on Youtube and on other websites, such as PeakProsperity.com, have been analyzing in detail. These recordings were taken from various locations spread over both the area of the rally and from the southern area of the American Glass Research (AGR) buildings just north of the rally.

    One can tell, by such things as the variations in the snick-boom delays, which of those recordings were close to the rifle that fired that round, and which recordings were further away, and approximately how far away. If you're near the rifle, the sonic "snick" of a supersonic round, and the speed of sound of the "bang"/"boom"/"report" from the exploded gun powder, arrive at your microphone at essentially the same time, right after the gun is fired. The further you are from the fired rifle, if you are still close to the line of fire, you'll record the "snick" of the supersonic round passing you increasingly sooner than you will hear the slower, mere speed of sound, of the "boom" report from the gunpowder explosion.

    There is much debate and conflicting opinions as to just where in or on those AGR buildings the first eight shots (three slower paced shots, then five rapid paced shots) came from, but there's plenty of evidence that those first eight shots came from somewhere on, within, or at least very near to the southern portion of those AGR buildings.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    If you go in the opposite direction - more or less the same distance (so the shots/sound analysis still stands) at the side of Alexi Lane, on the left, just down from the junction with Brady Paul Lane.... there's a darkish grey roof of a building with some over hanging tree branches on it's left hand side...... maybe THAT is where the would~be assassin shot from...?
    I doubt it.

    There are at least a half dozen audio recordings, from various microphones and mobile phones, that various people on Youtube and on other websites, such as PeakProsperity.com, have been analyzing in detail. These recordings were taken from various locations spread over both the area of the rally and from the southern area of the American Glass Research (AGR) buildings just north of the rally.

    One can tell, by such things as the variations in the snick-boom delays, which of those recordings were close to the rifle that fired that round, and which recordings were further away, and approximately how far away. If you're near the rifle, the sonic "snick" of a supersonic round, and the speed of sound of the "bang"/"boom"/"report" from the exploded gun powder, arrive at your microphone at essentially the same time, right after the gun is fired. The further you are from the fired rifle, if you are still close to the line of fire, you'll record the "snick" of the supersonic round passing you increasingly sooner than you will hear the slower, mere speed of sound, of the "boom" report from the gunpowder explosion.

    There is much debate and conflicting opinions as to just where in or on those AGR buildings the first eight shots (three slower paced shots, then five rapid paced shots) came from, but there's plenty of evidence that those first eight shots came from somewhere on, within, or at least very near to the southern portion of those AGR buildings.

    Thanks for response..... it's just a tentative hypothesis but it hasn't run out of mileage yet in my mind...

    As a matter of interest is your main doubt about it (ie my New Hypothesis) the recordings (+analysis) of the shots and what they indicate... because I can cover that point by saying that various agencies would have been all over the site and in a REALLY serious, detailed, multi layered Misdirection they could have got phones from around the site that would back up the Official Narrative .... but wouldn't necessarily have come from where they said...

    Another way of looking at the shots could be....the first 3 were the actual assassination attempt that was (in my view miraculously ) thwarted by Trump's turn of the head... thinking about it just now as I write this - if the first shot had missed completely and Trump hadn't ducked down quickly - the 2nd one might have killed him...

    The next burst of 5 bullets that sound like they were from a different gun (to me) could have been sprayed into the crowd to begin the cover up - when it looked like Trump had survived... the following one (9th) and I think there was a 10th? could be the same - to make it sound like the Shooter had been eliminated...

    I'm not heavily attached to this speculation and it's tentative but as the original Official Narrative has so many problems.. ....

    cheers...
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    Chis Martenson published another update a couple of hours ago. What struck me strongly was this hypothesis proposed by someone in his research group. Below is a screenshot (shown starting at 19:15 in the video, after which Martenson discusses it in detail).

    It suggests a concealed second shooter in the roof space above the windows. The idea on its own proves nothing, of course, but the hypothesis aligns with all the currently available data, with nothing ruling it out. It earned itself a loud-and clear personal bookmark for me, but of course confirming this may be next to impossible.

    It's like the storm drain in the JFK assassination, which is where Johnny Roselli was when he took the fatal head shot. (That's absolutely what happened on that day, btw, but it's off-topic on this thread.)



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    Bumping this. In the long conversation between Chris Martenson and Bret Weinstein posted below, starting at 2:28:10 Martenson explains that one of the audio engineers he's been working with stated that the cluster of 5 quick shots after the first 3 have a forensic fingerprint that shows that the 5 shots were fired from 'within a box' — meaning, a closed room.

    Martenson then refers to the theory in the image above, about a second shooter concealed in a small roof compartment. He says that his problem is finding a hole or opening on the wall of the building that would fit with this.

    He does show this image (a screenshot from 2:36:54), where three apparent small square openings are clearly seen. But one would need to have access to the building to investigate this any further.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Bumping this. In the long conversation between Chris Martenson and Bret Weinstein posted below, starting at 2:28:10 Martenson explains that one of the audio engineers he's been working with stated that the cluster of 5 quick shots after the first 3 have a forensic fingerprint that shows that the 5 shots were fired from 'within a box' — meaning, a closed room.

    Martenson then refers to the theory in the image above, about a second shooter concealed in a small roof compartment. He says that his problem is finding a hole or opening on the wall of the building that would fit with this.
    Chris Martenson has been doing some good work here, yes.

    My current speculations diverge from his work, and variations on it by others, in one critical way.

    Almost everyone else, including Chris, is more or less assuming that a bullet nicked Trump's ear, causing its bleeding.

    Since the first shot, which is likely the one that nicked Trump's ear, is also clearly known from some good video to have hit the upper most, southern most, railing of the southern bleacher, after (in the commonly accepted narrative) nicking Trump's ear, this puts some significant limits on where that first bullet came from. Two points make a line, after accounting for likely bullet speed, air temperature, common bullet trajectories, and such, one can project the apparent trajectory line to its possible origins, with a fair degree of accuracy.

    When we project back the trajectory that both hits that bleacher rail and nicks Trump's ear, we get a line going back to approximately where the patsy (Crooks?) was on the roof, with some limits on height.

    The shooting point could not have been much higher than the patsy, otherwise the bullet would have had to travel first in a downward trajectory toward Trump, and then in a more level or upward trajectory toward that railing. Since (so far as I know), gravity in Butler PA is like it is in most places on our earth's surface (), that's downward, therefore ballistic ammunition, absent wings or such, tends less upward, more downward, as it flies, not more upward.

    On the other hand, the shooting point could not have been much lower than the patsy (Crooks?) on the roof of AGR Bldg #6, or else it would have had to be shot through the chain link fence on the southern boundary of the AGR property ... which shot would have a substantial risk of hitting part of the fence and being deflected. No competent sniper who wanted to hit his target would want to shoot through a chain link fence, given any alternative.

    If, however, that first shot did NOT nick Trump's ear, on its path to hitting that railing, it could have been shot from a higher location, such as the upper windows of the two story AGR building just to the north and west of Bldg #6. There were known Butler or Beaver County snipers in the second story of that very building, at that very time, and the exact whereabouts and activities of those snipers at the time of the shootings is being masked by some sketchy testimony.

    I speculate that the "Deep State" contracted with one of those snipers to kill Trump that day, but that Trump then got wind of the plot, and "made a deal" with that sniper: "You miss and we've got your back. You kill me and you die." Legend has it that Trump likes making such serious deals with serious bad asses.

    Several pieces fit rather well, with my speculation, such as the audio analysis of the first three shots suggesting they were shot from within a room, and such as the fact that the second story window (of the building where the above noted county snipers were located) that was closest to the patsy (Crooks?) on the adjacent roof was known to be open at that time.

    Highly my speculation seems to remain quite unpopular with both "sides" of the political divide:
    1. Team (D) (where 'D' is for Democrat or Deep State - your choice) is wedded to the "lone nut shooter" missed scenario.
    2. Team (R) is wedded to the Trump survived by a miracle or incredible luck (depending on the commentator's religion) narrative.
    My speculation that there really was a serious Deep State assassination attempt, which Trump survived by a bit of cunning and stage craft, seems to be quite unpopular with almost everyone.

    My (unpopular) speculation does resolve the problem Chris Martenson notes, that of figuring out where the "second shooter" (actually the "first shooter", by my narrative) shot from.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
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    Since the first shot, which is likely the one that nicked Trump's ear, ...
    [...]
    The crux of the matter... where, from there, it all becomes "Turtle" for any modelling.
    • Crooks is designated patsy and a decoy who was about as serious about hitting a target without a scope as some safari individual intending to catch a rhinoceros with a butterfly net... best outcome for him instead of being sacrificed on the spot would have been to be carted away alive ASAP and replaced with a mannequin. BTW, the "patsy" was intentionally made to be ostentatiously suspicious wandering around all day with a rangefinder in hand... who needs a rangefinder when not even using a scope?
    • 8 spent shells conveniently found on the roof after having initially been counted to be only five on the north side of the roof crest. Someone had to perform a quick mental math to get it right... or were the number of shots heard already pre-planned and accounted for? Because 5 shells only account for 3 initial shots + 2 out of a rapid-fired round of 5... ain't quite working unless the patsy never fired the first 3 shots, only the last rapid-fired 5 ones.
    • apparently the two injured individuals were both shot twice... that's a minimum of 2 bullets, each hitting both individuals or a maximum of 4 shots/bullets. In the case of the former, the first 3 shots could account for all injured and deceased...
    • Turtle fest from there!
    My "Turtle": the first shot was intended to hit the people/railing of the stage-left bleacher and be visible and/or audible so as to be correlated to "Trump"'s performance on stage and "reveal" the shooter's position... nice planning there because that would need a scope for precision! Not a job for a scatter-gun like an AR 15.

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    On Zero Hedge: (originally from The Epoch Times)
    Trump Shooter had Encrypted Accounts in Multiple Countries: Congressman

    The man who fired shots at former President Donald Trump during a rally in Pennsylvania had encrypted accounts in multiple countries, according to a member of the U.S. House of Representatives task force investigating the attempted assassination.
    “We haven’t learned much about those overseas accounts,” Rep. Michael Waltz (R-Fla.) told a press conference in Chicago on Aug. 21. “We do know they were in ... Belgium, New Zealand, and Germany.”
    Waltz is on the “Task Force on the Attempted Assassination of Donald J. Trump.”

    FBI officials previously disclosed that Crooks used encrypted messaging applications.
    “Why does a 19-year-old kid who is a health care aide need encrypted platforms, not even based in the United States, but based abroad, where most terrorist organizations know it is harder for our law enforcement to get into?” Waltz asked.
    He said that the question had not yet been answered.

    Waltz and other members were preparing later Wednesday to receive a briefing from FBI officials on the agency’s probe into the attempted assassination of Trump on July 13.

    He said that task force members have been discussing how authorities should be sharing information as they uncover it, not waiting until final reports on the investigations are ready.
    “They need to be releasing information as they come across it because this wasn’t an isolated incident. The threats are continuing,” Waltz said.
    The FBI and U.S. Secret Service did not respond to early morning requests for comment.

    Waltz highlighted the recent charges against a Pakistani national. That man, Asif Merchant, has been charged in connection with a foiled plot to assassinate public officials in the United States. Authorities alleged he gave $5,000 as an advance payment to individuals he thought were hitmen, but were undercover FBI agents.

    Waltz also said he was disturbed that the officials who constructed the security plan for Trump’s July rally have not been disciplined.

    Acting Secret Service Director Ronald Rowe Jr. told Congress in July that discipline may follow out once the agency finishes its internal probe into the situation.

    “That roof should have had better coverage, and we will get to the bottom of if there were any policy violations,” he said at one point.

    Rowe added later that he would not provide real-time updates on disciplinary measures but would “at a high level provide at least some type of statement that people are being held accountable.”

    Kimberly Cheatle, who was the Secret Service’s director before stepping down after Trump was nearly assassinated, said on July 22 that the Secret Service’s initial report about rally security would be ready in 60 days.

    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s inspector general is also conducting an investigation.

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    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    My "Turtle": the first shot was intended to hit the people/railing of the stage-left bleacher and be visible and/or audible so as to be correlated to "Trump"'s performance on stage and "reveal" the shooter's position... nice planning there because that would need a scope for precision! Not a job for a scatter-gun like an AR 15.
    I don't quite grok what "Turtle" meme's are ... but I like your hypothesis.
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    I don't quite grok what "Turtle" meme's are ... but I like your hypothesis.
    "Turtle": The foundation upon which the rest of the whole world rests on / can exist:

    Quote According to legend a prominent scientist once presented a lecture on cosmology which discussed the solar system and galaxies. Afterwards, a critical audience member approached and stated that the information given was completely wrong.

    Instead, the world was supported by four great elephants, and the elephants stood on the back of an enormous turtle. The scientist inquired what the turtle stood upon. Another more massive turtle was the reply. The scientist asked about the support of the last turtle and elicited this response:
    “Oh, it’s turtles all the way down.”

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    https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1826995568008212498




    BREAKING:

    Multiple Secret Service agents have been placed on leave amid the investigation into the attempted assassination of President Trump.


    https://x.com/abigailmarone/status/1827016259201872169




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    Secret Service told agents working the Butler rally NOT to request additional manpower resources for the rally & warned any such requests would be DENIED.

    This CONTRADICTS Rowe testimony, who said no resources were ever denied.
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