A new 'Whistleblower Document'

[Bill Ryan]

Rick Doty sent me a email simply saying: "Great Job, Bill."

He also sent me this: (now safely archived in the Avalon Library )

https://avalonlibrary.net/Serpo_rele...commentary.pdf

There's quite a private email conversation going round about all of this, with messages aiso copied to Hal Puthoff, Ron Pandolfi, and Dan Lux (who was with Kerry Cassidy and myself when we spent 5 hours with Dan Burisch being briefed about Timeline 1, version 83).

[Denise/Dizi]

I wonder whatever happened, if it is true, to the one individual who died on the way to Serpo, and was used as a clone specimen to create a new entity? I often wonder if it was true, and if it was, was the J Rod the individual that was once fully human but altered? If so? THAT individual may still absolutely be alive...

[Did You See Them]

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
I wonder whatever happened, if it is true, to the one individual who died on the way to Serpo, and was used as a clone specimen to create a new entity? I often wonder if it was true, and if it was, was the J Rod the individual that was once fully human but altered? If so? THAT individual may still absolutely be alive...

The way things seem to be with these ET's is that the dead exchange Astronaut once cloned into a new "entity" may have been returned - not just to where but to when.
He could potentially be the original Adam !

[Agape]

I've read most of the Project Serpo files published on Bills website and followed the releases before they have ceased.

The whole narrative sounded very honest to me and I've always believed it to be true, for more than one reason perhaps

so I'm rather excited to see that some source has confirmed.


🙏

[Denise/Dizi]

My thought is they wouldn't go that far, they would try to keep their actions within the range of what the human mind can comprehend...

After writing that I realized that the J Rod was brought at the time of the departure, not the return... But I had a few thoughts that just hit me...

Dan Burisch made conflicting statements, he claimed he pushed the J Rod through a portal, but in another interview he claimed he didn't know what ever happened to the J Rod and that it may still be alive at S-4. Were there more than 1?

Secondly, they accounted for all 12.

2 died, One of pnemonia, one of a fall there, 2 stayed willingly, and the other 8 returned... Which of those accountings takes into consideration the one who died on the way? This would indicate that this individual was again accounted for in the 12.... But not as one of the dead individuals...

Did he return as part of the 8... It makes me wonder if that was then the J Rod whom they wrote as Jarod on a jet, and photographed years later? The one Bill Uhouse claimed helped them create simulators. I remember seeing an image of a plane, and seeing Jarod written on the panel below the cockpit, and the et was inside... Of course it could have been a photoshop... But it just doesn't add up properly...

And an unsolved puzzle drives me nuts...

About the Serpo site as it is now... If it is as they claim, and not just Ai generated... Who are those they are listening to as "They" describe their time on Serpo? NEW exchange program members, as the original are supposedly deceased??? Or old videos of those that originally went? As it seems they only took ledgers and tapes... Perhaps the program is ongoing? Just thinking aloud...

Hi Rick, Hal, Ron, and Dan, care to weigh in for us that are still curious about all of this fascinating information? We've been waiting for years to learn more...

[onevoice]

I found the following short video at tiktok about J-Rod. In the video, I took a screen grab of the following alleged image of J-Rod. Bill UHouse appears describing his involvement at Area-51 and J-Rod starting at time mark 2:24.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Rick Doty sent me a email simply saying: "Great Job, Bill."

He also sent me this: (now safely archived in the Avalon Library )

https://avalonlibrary.net/Serpo_rele...commentary.pdf

There's quite a private email conversation going round about all of this, with messages aiso copied to Hal Puthoff, Ron Pandolfi, and Dan Lux (who was with Kerry Cassidy and myself when we spent 5 hours with Dan Burisch being briefed about Timeline 1, version 83).

I downloaded from the library to save this pdf and discovered I already had this document saved in november, 2010 (same name, 130 pages size 1900 kb vs 1901 kb saved today).

Don't recall where I got it from, but interestingly this date was 15 days before I joined the Avalon forum, though I had been viewing here for a year or more by then.

[onevoice]

I find it interesting that in the section of "Posting Nine by Anonymous (30 November, 2005)" there's this mention of a pill:

Each Team Member also took a "pill" with them. The pill was standard issue
for intelligence agents operating behind enemy lines. The pill could end their
life if, for some reason, the Ebens turned out to be hostile.

The movie "Contact" released in 1997 was based on the novel by Dr. Carl Sagan by the same name. There is a scene starting at time mark 1:43:24 showing a poison pill. I wonder if this is a reference to the Project Serpo? Dr. Carl Sagan most likely was intimately involved in the Project Serpo.



There is an old thread in which user Karl discussed the movie "Contact" extensively explaining its many hidden meanings.

Another nexus is the triangular patch worn by the US Military Team going to Serpo in the "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." The triangular shape of the poison pill may have a significance we aren't privy to.

Ellie Arroway in the Contact also goes through a wormhole, similar to the Team that went to Planet Serpo.

The movie Contact can be downloaded here, good until 24 August, 2024.

[Denise/Dizi]

Does anyone know why Richard Doty was given the presidential award? He mentioned it but never said why he got it

[onevoice]

I've been pondering the significance of the triangular patch that was worn on the left shoulders of the military team on the "Close Encounters of the Third Kind". So today I've been searching for Alpha Centauri star system. The triangular symbol is also on the cover of the mission briefing book.

I found the below picture showing the Alpha Centauri, Beta Centauri, and the Proxima Centauri. The three of them forms a triangular pattern. So this seems very fitting that Spielberg knew that the team was headed to this area by using the triangular emblem. The two bright stars are Alpha Centauri and Beta Centauri. The dimmer star is the Proxima Centauri circled in red.



At the bottom of Page 9 in the PDF posted in post 21:

If Serpo exists and its star system is indeed a close binary, then either current astronomical observations are in error or the star system is not Zeta Reticuli at all. If the latter is true, there are all kinds of plausible reasons for the obfuscation. One such has been suggested as being that the well-known “Greys” – which, interestingly, Anonymous states as being from Alpha Centauri (foot of p.12) and which, being responsible for abductions, may be hostile to a degree – are actually from Zeta Reticuli, the Ebens are actually from Alpha Centauri (which is a close binary), and that the two have been deliberately confused by US Government intelligence circles in this release in order to make the Greys appear as harmless and friendly.

So to me, this is a clear indication that Spielberg knew that the team was headded towards the Alpha Centauri group by using the triangular patch.

According to this article:

Alpha Centauri is a special star - not only because it is the closest stellar system to the sun but also because it is one of the relatively few places in the Milky Way Galaxy that may offer terrestrial life conditions. If humanity looks for intelligent life elsewhere, then Alpha Centauri is an excellent candidate.

Visible only from latitudes south of about 25° the star we call Alpha Centauri lies 4.35 light-years from the Sun. But it is actually a triple star system. The two brightest components Alpha Centauri A and B form a binary. They orbit each other in 80 years with a mean separation of 23 astronomical units (1 astronomical unit = 1 AU = distance between the Sun and Earth). The third member of the system Alpha Centauri C lies 13,000 AU from A and B, or 400 times the distance between the Sun and Neptune. This is so far that it is not known whether Alpha Centauri C is really bound to A and B, or if it will have left the system in some million years. Alpha Centauri C lies measurably closer to us than the other two: It is only 4.22 light-years away, and it is the nearest individual star to the Sun. Because of this proximity, Alpha Centauri C is also called Proxima (Centauri).

So any place from Miami, FL and southward one could see the Alpha Centauri but not anywhere else northward.


Below is the screen grab from the movie, and below that is image of a patch that can be bought online by movie buffs.

[Bill Ryan]

I got a very appreciative email from Robert Morningstar, a veteran researcher who knows everything there is to know about ETs and UFOs, and who's been in the subject forever.

It's paraphrased here, because I shouldn't copy a private email verbatim on a public thread. (But there was nothing at all confidential, personal or sensitive. )

• He thanked us for our work on this. He said that he "greatly appreciated it".
• He's read 10 pages so far.
• He said he can confirm it conforms and is consonant with what he knows from the MAJIC-12 Entry Level Briefing Document (dated 8 Jan 1989), as well as Estimate of the Situation: Unidentified Flying Objects and National Security submitted to USAF General Hoyt Vandenberg in 1948.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I read the whole thing and I remain deeply unimpressed. I don't think this guy knows a single thing about the subject he's writing on. There's no clear information on his professional background, his rank/service record, or branch he served in if he even served at all. But he mentions a "mentor", a mentor I suspect has been whispering sweet nothings in his ear.

On SERPO (merely a footnote in this long document) he provides nothing new whatsoever. Everything he cites on Serpo comes from the original releases. Many such details are reproduced word for word. He hasn't witnessed anything himself, or been read-in on anything; it's all third hand testimony from a "mentor". Most of what he tells is pure bunk, involving fake technology, fake science, and fake disclosure material. The video he presents as 'factual' [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqtzKW4hH4 ] is, to use 4Chan parlance, unbelievably fake and g*y. And The Galactic Federation of Light...? Give me a break. The rest of the document reads like a manifesto written by a convicted criminal from his prison cell. Which he is. And he's basically saying "elect me as President of the World and I will fix ALL THE PROBLEMS." This is a seriously deluded individual who's been told lie after lie after lie, and is now trying to make a name for himself as a whistleblower and to a get a free ticket out of prison.

[Did You See Them]

If Speilberg's "Close Encounters" was dropping hints to an actual exchange meeting then ( in reference to Lue Elizondo's new book title ) how does the return at the same time, of the unaged and seemingly bewildered abductees as if they had blinked and where then there - and all from other time periods, fit in with these visitors Intent and presence here ?
Have their future visitations and abductions etc also been set in stone from their perspective?

[Agape]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
I read the whole thing and I remain deeply unimpressed. I don't think this guy knows a single thing about the subject he's writing on. There's no clear information on his professional background, his rank/service record, or branch he served in if he even served at all. But he mentions a "mentor", a mentor I suspect has been whispering sweet nothings in his ear.

On SERPO (merely a footnote in this long document) he provides nothing new whatsoever. Everything he cites on Serpo comes from the original releases. Many such details are reproduced word for word. He hasn't witnessed anything himself, or been read-in on anything; it's all third hand testimony from a "mentor". Most of what he tells is pure bunk, involving fake technology, fake science, and fake disclosure material. The video he presents as 'factual' [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqtzKW4hH4 ] is, to use 4Chan parlance, unbelievably fake and g*y. And The Galactic Federation of Light...? Give me a break. The rest of the document reads like a manifesto written by a convicted criminal from his prison cell. Which he is. And he's basically saying "elect me as President of the World and I will fix ALL THE PROBLEMS." This is a seriously deluded individual who's been told lie after lie after lie, and is now trying to make a name for himself as a whistleblower and to a get a free ticket out of prison.

Mark, hint on and thanks for the critique. We may be well still on the square one if all that is, is and were, were or naught as you are saying.


Just note the author has a name to his claim and owns the website segment where his document is uploaded.

There has to be someone in the backgrounds not willing or allowed to come out with this information.

Likewise I don't believe that Bill Ryan or his source have created the reports released under the name of Project Serpo.

While we do not know the full truth we are moving ahead by inches on a timeline
and we are not 18 years ahead from whence we started ,
we are whole quantum leap ahead information wise.


So after viewing the whole document and delving to some details of the document,
it's too early to say but is named and signed.

Sure it could all be work of lunatic tho most lunatics are not capable to write coherent research essay of such calibre and complexity .

Peace ✌️

[Denise/Dizi]

To those intelligence agencies monitoring this thread and others... A big Thank You, and some advice, if you do not mind... (I believe the waiting is causing frustration)

A BIG (Perhaps late) THANK YOU To those who decided that the "Space Force" needed to be acknowledged... While it was probably done for funding and the ability to recruit openly, it served a more noble purpose in my opinion...

It now allows for those soldiers that have been in the programs, to tell those they love what they really did, or are signing up to do... Perhaps not the exact details, but at least acknowledge that they were involved, or will be, in the Space Force... They deserve to be able to claim their accomplishments..

THAT ALONE goes a long way to maintain the mental well being of those individuals... Could you imagine the home sickness of some of those individuals? Knowing they can't just hop on a plane and fly home in a few hours, should they get wounded... It just matters, and for that I thank you...

Back to the topic of old history... Really, can't we just get past this? And learn more about what is happening NOW? In 3 years, Roswell will be 80 years ago... We have toys that can levitate... Desk TRINKETS... Holography that is mind blowing at this point, etc... And don't get me started in the ability to merge technology with anatomy, one only need look in the medical field for those who have limb issues to realize what you must have at your disposal... And it isn't new at all...

Please do not place us into the stupid catagory, if we have this tech at a consumer level, it has been in use for decades already in your arena... It is becoming offensive to our intelligence at this point...

At this point, those craft back in the 40's are old news, even if they were true stories? We have very advanced technologies now... Whether we got them from reverse engineering, or by the efforts of our own kind? It's time we play some "Catch up".. wouldn't you agree?

At a certain point you are going to just build hatred that you are perpetuating the same nonsense, and your efforts will not be remembered as noble, but rather, you will be lumped into the same catagory as those who lied to us from the beginning... What side of history do you want to be on? You exposed Space Force.. To have a Space Force, you need a way for that "Force" to enter "space" and operate there outside of just satellites... otherwise it is placing the cart before the horse... It would be like saying we can fly, because we saw birds doing it...

We are quickly losing respect for you as a result, because we are not stupid... The ego of the military industrial complex, and its agencies at this point, is falling behind in as much as having their finger on the pulse of those they are trying to keep in the dark, to the point where you are now looking like the ignorant ones...

You will not maintain any level of respect if you continue at this pace... And in my estimation you are losing credibility more than anything, as the old standard is no longer appropriate as the divide gets larger between what you are willing to acknowledge and what is real. We're holding in our hands, more than you acknowledge and it's ridiculous at this point. Wouldn't you agree?

You retired the space shuttle decades ago, and we all know that you do not retire ANYTHING unless you have something better! You retired the SR71, so that means you had something better, You kept the U2 when you had something better, but needed SOMETHING to show the masses when they wanted to see what we were paying for... And THAT is now being retired... My guess is we will get the now retired "Newest version" of an already retired SR72, as we are now seeing images of that on Google search.. Or renderings of one... Or perhaps a "Newer" already retired U2 replacement...

If you expect us to believe a more advanced version of the same technologies .... Is the best we have? (Having used nothing in the interim? You would be fooling only yourselves).. Really, we aren't that stupid. We already know whatever you show us, is now what you consider to be your "Mothball fleet"... The "Cattle Call" showing of ancient tech at this point...

We see evidence in the skies of the new technologies (even with the advanced stealth capabilities...) There are tale tell signs of such things, and you know what they are.... And those paying attention do as well...

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So you're move.. You can keep pushing the same Serpo information, and riding on that story as you've invested so much into it.... Or try something new... Like honesty. Serpo probably happened, but at this point, it is old news... Many of us already are willing to accept the reality of "Others"... Look at all of the other species on this planet alone? I DOUBT that many humans would have a difficult time believing each planet may have such a diverse population of creatures...

But how can you expect us to believe ANYTHING that is being said, when humans are still lying to other humans? I am not suggesting you give us information that is critical to the NOW... But really? Almost 80 years now? We'll all be dead before humanity at large gets to meet them, or get the truth of their existence....

And those interested will have wasted their entire lives trying to know any truth... While you spend your lives trying to hide it for yourselves, convinced that only you deserve to know.

I REALLY want to maintain respect for you, but your help in this regard would go a long way towards that... You know at this point that you can give information remotely, and anonymously to any human you wish, and they could never identify who shared it with them.... Or the proof it is real information... So what's the issue?

[onevoice]

On page 9, Charles McNeal states:

Our repulsion craft was started with electric simulators, went to actual craft, then was perfected by the late 1980’s, while still working on more advanced models and incorporating deepspace propulsions since the early to mid 1990’s like USS Solar Warden, USS Hillenkoetter, USS Vandenberg Etc.

According to Linda Moulton Howe, he does have two of the ships right:
USS Roscoe Hillenkoetter and USS Hoyt Vandenberg. The 3rd spaceship LMH mentions is USS Curtis LeMay. The USS Hoyt Vandenberg is the largest ship, what she calls "tip of the spear."

33: May 31, 2023 - Rebroadcast June 8 2022 - Does U. S. Space Force Have Secret Vehicles Reaching Other Stars

Special Rebroadcast - Linda is preparing for her appearance at Contact In the Desert this weekend.

• Does U. S. Space Force Have Secret Vehicles Reaching Other Stars?

• Unites States Space Force has multiple deep space vehicles - USS Curtis LeMay - USS Hoyt Vandenberg, “tip of the spear” - USS Roscoe Hillenkoetter - Several ships have multi-country crews - Tall white’s tech in USS Hoyt Vandenberg, and USS Roscoe Hillenkoetter - Ships use DQTP - Deep Quantum Tunneling Protocol - Tall Whites live on 82 G Eridani - 3 competing ET civilizations fighting over earth for 270 million years - Sirius B - look like Nordic blonds - Little grey, AI programmed life forms - PLFs, “designed for temporal space travel” - Tall Ancient greys travel through space

She starts to talk about the Secret Vehicles starting at time mark 6:08 in the podcast listed on the page.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
We are quickly losing respect for you as a result, because we are not stupid...

What you're talking about is the 'blob', the vast monolithic shadow-realm of secret operations, secret infrastructure, and secret technology, that has existed for nearly all those eighty years since Roswell. They have never had anyone's respect. But they don't care about that. They don't care about respect, honesty, or doing what's right for the people of Earth. Never have, never will.

They're doing their own thing and are perfectly happy doing it so long as their activities remain black, buried, and their funding continues to come in. As Ben Rich said (former Director of Lockheed Skunk Works), it would take an act of GOD to ever get them [these black projects] out to benefit humanity.

I will just say, for the record, I don't believe the Serpo material is real/accurate. I of course remain ever grateful for the work Bill did getting this info out, I just think it's disinformation, or at least mostly so.

I think disinformation (counter-intelligence) in the UFO world works in the following way: weave an elaborate tale, information-rich, that tells a complex mixture of truth and falsehood. Approx. 15% of the info will be true, whereas 85% is false. Some 50% of that 85% falsehood is anti-truth, meaning not just false, but the opposite of the truth. Example: Project Crystal Knight claims 12 humans made the trip to an alien world called Serpo to live on that world and study it. In reality (I conjecture) this yarn derives from extra-terrestrials that crashed on Earth , and lived here for years in captivity. Instead of humans who died on Serpo and had their bodies experimented on by EBEs without consent (talk about the pot calling the kettle black) is probably derived from us doing that to them, in hybridisation experiments, without their consent.

I would like the Serpo story to be true, but I have a hard time believing that any progressive (positively-aligned) alien race would be so retarded as to take knuckle-dragging military types (hairless apes with guns) all on all-inclusive trip to their home planet. And who ever heard of an advanced and supposedly spiritually developed race using words/speech/high-pitched tones for communication? They use telepathy -- mind-transference to communicate (pretty much all the contact case-histories allude to this) -- even the 'regressive' Greys are telepathic. All that stuff about the Eben language involving high-pitched screams reads as completely false to me. Also, how the Holloman landings and Lonnie Zamora's sighting in Soccoro, NM, were name-dropped into the narrative -- it seems all too convenient (and cute) for my liking.

There are too many unanswered questions ( and too much wonky science) to paint a convincing picture. When it was told that a series of photographs taken on Serpo would be released, I just knew they would never surface. It's a classic counter-intelligence technique: dangle a (non-existent) carrot to chum the waters of expectation. Though we didn't (and never will see) these pictures, we sort of convince ourselves they nevertheless exist (and by extension Serpo itself) but they are just too sensitive/sensational to be released into the public domain 'at this time'...

Short of words on a page there's no tangible evidence, or subsequent corroboration, that Serpo ever happened. I think the story is 85% fiction with perhaps a sprinkling of reality mixed in. Where the reality lies in this case is hard to say. There's almost certainly a real Secret Space Program, and has been for decades. Perhaps the description of the alien world is something that's really been encountered, or, the portrayal of travelling in deep space (causing confusion and sickness) is real-world accurate.

[onevoice]

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
You retired the space shuttle decades ago, and we all know that you do not retire ANYTHING unless you have something better! You retired the SR71, so that means you had something better, You kept the U2 when you had something better, but needed SOMETHING to show the masses when they wanted to see what we were paying for... And THAT is now being retired... My guess is we will get the now retired "Newest version" of an already retired SR72, as we are now seeing images of that on Google search.. Or renderings of one... Or perhaps a "Newer" already retired U2 replacement...

I used to work at the Kennedy Space Center for over 20 years until the Space Shuttles were retired. A few days before a bunch of us left the program, we were all given a detailed tour of a Space Shuttle. Below is the control area to control payloads in the Payload bay. There was a signature board mounted on the Shuttle, where I signed. The Space Shuttles have been distributed throughout the country in various museum and display areas. It was a blast working closely with the Space Shuttle, although it was basically crude technology. Toward the latter years, the original analog display systems of the Space Shuttle were upgraded to modern digital displays.



Below shows the underside of the front of the Shuttle. You can see the individual thermal tiles that protects the Shuttle during re-entry. Each of these thermal tiles are unique and has to be handled by special care. This was probably one of the advanced tech of the space shuttle, since it endured thousands of degrees of heat during re-entry. For a number of years among the many projects and various positions I worked at, I maintained a system to track work cycles of these tiles called Thermal Tile Tracking System. I was able to see these up close enough to touch them, but I'm not able to touch them. Each thermal tile must be handled with "white glove" care. The big yellow strut at the lower right is one of the "tripod" type of gigantic jacks used to support a shuttle in between space flights.



Near the end years of the Space Shuttles, we all saw prototype of a unmanned Space Shuttle which did replace the manned Space Shuttles. These were classified vehicles that were much smaller than the manned Space Shuttles. These unmanned space shuttle can stay up more than a year per mission.

Below is one version of these early prototype:

[Did You See Them]

onevoice - regarding the heat tiles.
Did you ever hear hear discussions regarding Maurice Wards invention, "Starlite" and the NATO Green Egg experiment ?

[onevoice]

Posted by Did You See Them (here)
onevoice - regarding the heat tiles.
Did you ever hear hear discussions regarding Maurice Wards invention, "Starlite" and the NATO Green Egg experiment ?

No I never did. Even if there is state of the art heat protection technology, it would have had to have a proven track record to make it a part of a space going vehicle. There were various kinds of heat protection devices, ranging from Reinforced Carbon Carbon (which were used to take the most intense heat at the leading edges of the wing area) to a flexible insulation blanket called Advanced Flexible Reusable Insulation, which later replaced lot of thermal protection devices.