Time Shifts & Time Slips

[ExomatrixTV]

• "The Most Convincing" Time Traveler Story?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yH3lkiq4WqI

In 2006, a mysterious man appeared on the streets of Kiev, claiming to have come from 1958. And the story gets crazier from there. The Sergei Ponomarenko story has become a bit of an internet phenomenon as one of the most compelling time traveler stories ever documented. It's a great story. But is it any more than that?

The Time Traveler who Vanished | The Sergei Ponomarenko Story

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_CEyRrYzPVk

Sergei Ponomarenko: The UFO Time Traveler who Disappeared Without a Trace On April 23rd 2006, a man in his early 20s was seen in Kyiv, Ukraine staring at a high-rise apartment building. Witnesses described him as looking confused and anxious. They thought he might have been a lost tourist. The man approached two police officers and nervously asked for directions... to a place that no longer existed. The officers asked the young man for identification. But, there were two problems with his ID. One, his documents were issued by the Soviet Union; which no longer existed. The second problem: according to his birth date, this young man was born in 1932.

• The Man Who Claimed He Built A Time Machine Suddenly Vanished But Now He's Reappeared Years Later:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YPFm_wGAplQ

[Pris]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

• "The Most Convincing" Time Traveler Story?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yH3lkiq4WqI

In 2006, a mysterious man appeared on the streets of Kiev, claiming to have come from 1958. And the story gets crazier from there. The Sergei Ponomarenko story has become a bit of an internet phenomenon as one of the most compelling time traveler stories ever documented. It's a great story. But is it any more than that?

The Time Traveler who Vanished | The Sergei Ponomarenko Story

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_CEyRrYzPVk

Sergei Ponomarenko: The UFO Time Traveler who Disappeared Without a Trace On April 23rd 2006, a man in his early 20s was seen in Kyiv, Ukraine staring at a high-rise apartment building. Witnesses described him as looking confused and anxious. They thought he might have been a lost tourist. The man approached two police officers and nervously asked for directions... to a place that no longer existed. The officers asked the young man for identification. But, there were two problems with his ID. One, his documents were issued by the Soviet Union; which no longer existed. The second problem: according to his birth date, this young man was born in 1932.

I was watching the first video about Sergei Ponomarenko... there's even a supposed UFO encounter, suggested time travel... and, then they showed the "future" Sergei photograph. All it took was to stop the video and analyze the image for a moment. So many of the buildings in the background were copied and pasted... It's not even a good "Photoshop" job. This is just the kind of thing that turns you off of looking any deeper. The video goes on to eventually confirm the obvious that, yes, it's fake.





Many other details of the story are also proven fake. We conclude the whole story is just utter nonsense meant to con the gullible public.

And, then I thought about it a bit more. What if there was an "original" Sergei Ponomarenko story with real evidence that's now being kept hidden? Maybe the fake story is, for example, a military psyop intended to obfuscate the real story and stop people from digging any deeper. When a fake is this obvious, it's a guaranteed turn-off. So, you have to wonder... Hey, you never know.

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by Pris (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

• "The Most Convincing" Time Traveler Story?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yH3lkiq4WqI

In 2006, a mysterious man appeared on the streets of Kiev, claiming to have come from 1958. And the story gets crazier from there. The Sergei Ponomarenko story has become a bit of an internet phenomenon as one of the most compelling time traveler stories ever documented. It's a great story. But is it any more than that?

The Time Traveler who Vanished | The Sergei Ponomarenko Story

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_CEyRrYzPVk

Sergei Ponomarenko: The UFO Time Traveler who Disappeared Without a Trace On April 23rd 2006, a man in his early 20s was seen in Kyiv, Ukraine staring at a high-rise apartment building. Witnesses described him as looking confused and anxious. They thought he might have been a lost tourist. The man approached two police officers and nervously asked for directions... to a place that no longer existed. The officers asked the young man for identification. But, there were two problems with his ID. One, his documents were issued by the Soviet Union; which no longer existed. The second problem: according to his birth date, this young man was born in 1932.

I was watching the first video about Sergei Ponomarenko... there's even a supposed UFO encounter, suggested time travel... and, then they showed the "future" Sergei photograph. All it took was to stop the video and analyze the image for a moment. So many of the buildings in the background were copied and pasted... It's not even a good "Photoshop" job. This is just the kind of thing that turns you off of looking any deeper. The video goes on to eventually confirm the obvious that, yes, it's fake.





Many other details of the story are also proven fake. We conclude the whole story is just utter nonsense meant to con the gullible public.

And, then I thought about it a bit more. What if there was an "original" Sergei Ponomarenko story with real evidence that's now being kept hidden? Maybe the fake story is, for example, a military psyop intended to obfuscate the real story and stop people from digging any deeper. When a fake is this obvious, it's a guaranteed turn-off. So, you have to wonder... Hey, you never know.

that is what the first video also said: proven fake

[Pris]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
I was watching the first video about Sergei Ponomarenko... there's even a supposed UFO encounter, suggested time travel... and, then they showed the "future" Sergei photograph. All it took was to stop the video and analyze the image for a moment. So many of the buildings in the background were copied and pasted... It's not even a good "Photoshop" job. This is just the kind of thing that turns you off of looking any deeper. The video goes on to eventually confirm the obvious that, yes, it's fake.

that is what the first video also said: proven fake

Yes, that's what I said. That was the whole point. The whole purpose behind making the video in the first place was to expose the fake story...

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by Pris (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
I was watching the first video about Sergei Ponomarenko... there's even a supposed UFO encounter, suggested time travel... and, then they showed the "future" Sergei photograph. All it took was to stop the video and analyze the image for a moment. So many of the buildings in the background were copied and pasted... It's not even a good "Photoshop" job. This is just the kind of thing that turns you off of looking any deeper. The video goes on to eventually confirm the obvious that, yes, it's fake.

that is what the first video also said: proven fake

Yes, that's what I said. That was the whole point. The whole purpose behind making the video in the first place was to expose the fake story...

I assumed it was obvious

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
I assumed it was obvious

I'm certain that time slips are very real, are very often slips backwards in time, and are almost always temporary, with a snap-back, 'rebound' effect soon afterwards. But there are many variations. This thread contains many intriguing anecdotes.

I read a fascinating book containing a whole collection of extraordinary reports many years ago, but I can't remember its title or author. When searching for it a few minutes ago, I found this: (But I've not read it yet)

https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Rod...e%20Future.pdf

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I read a fascinating book containing a whole collection of extraordinary reports many years ago, but I can't remember its title or author.

When searching for it, I also found this excellent (and quite short!) NYT article, which I'll copy in full:

https://nytimes.com/2021/11/16/magaz...me-travel.html

How I Became Obsessed With Accidental Time Travel

The web is awash with ordinary peoples’ stories of “time slips.” Their real magic is what they can tell us about our relationship to time.



By Lucie Elven
Published Nov. 16, 2021

This year, I turned 30, a development that came with a breathless sense of dread at time’s passing. It wakes me up in the early mornings: Nocturnal terror breaks through the surface of sleep like a whale breaching for air. My ambition and fear kick in together until I get up, pour myself some water and look out the window at the squid-ink sky and the string of lights along my neighbors’ houses. I lie down again after finding firmer mental ground, dry land.

So when a guy that my friend was seeing evangelized about “time slips” — a genre of urban legend in which people claim that, while walking in particular places, they accidentally traveled back, and sometimes forward, in time — I was a ripe target. Curious and increasingly existential, I Googled these supposed time slips

I found a global community of believers building an archive of temporal dislocations from the present. These congregants gathered in corners of the internet to testify about how, in the right conditions, the dusting of alienation that settles over the world as we age can crystallize into collective fiction.

I was initially skeptical of the vague language that time-slip writers employed to convey experiences I already found dubious: too many uses of foggy words like “blunder” and “sporting”; detail lavished on varieties of hats encountered. But I was drawn in by their secretive tone — I sensed that sharing these anecdotes was compromising, even shameful (“People would laugh at you,” one poster wrote). Disapproval became attraction, and I returned to the message boards throughout the summer.

Here’s a classic that, like the best of these stories, was related secondhand on a paranormal blog: In a Liverpudlian street in 1996, an off-duty policeman named Frank was going to meet his wife, Carol, in a bookshop called Dillons when “suddenly, a small box van that looked like something out of the 1950s sped across his path, honking its horn as it narrowly missed him.”

More disorienting still, Frank “saw that Dillons book store now had ‘Cripps’ over its entrance” and that there were stands of shoes and handbags in the window instead of new fiction. The only other person not wearing midcentury dress was a girl in a lime green sleeveless top. As Frank followed her into the old women’s wear boutique, “the interior of the building completely changed in a flash”; it was once again a bookshop.

As with a spell of déjà vu, the experience was short-lived, and time was regained. According to the blogger’s detective-like report, Cripps “was later determined” to have been a business in the 1950s. In response to Frank’s slip, posters have told their own or related accounts they’ve heard from others: “This happened to my ex-boss, Glyn Jackson in London, England,” one begins. “Glyn’s story is Highly believable as Glyn is person who lacks imagination on such a scale that he could not put together a grade one story for English to save his life.” And on it goes.

I have never appreciated stories about the passage of time. I resent that I won’t ever get back the hours of my life that Richard Linklater stole with “Boyhood” — his two-and-three-quarter-hour film, shot over a 12-year period in which time is the force that overwhelms everything, not least the idea that our own actions drive our life stories. There’s a whole lot of unwelcome profundity there.

Time-slip anecdotes, though fashioned out of the ambient dread of living with the ticking clock, are childlike in their sense of wonder. They are light, playful and irrational, as frivolous and folky as a ghost story if it were narrated by the confused ghost instead of the people it haunts.

One poster, as a girl, used to see a woman in a blue bathrobe in her room: “Her hair was long and messy, a reddish brown. I didn’t see her face because she was usually turned away. I used to mistake her for my mom.” Years later, grown up, the poster’s daughter slept in her former bedroom. “One day I realized ... I was wearing the same blue bathrobe,” the mother writes. Paranormal trappings aside, this story speaks to the feeling of whiplash brought on by time’s passing.

Slipping can be significant, as any Freudian will tell you, and these narratives are riddles whose answers might tell us about our relationship to time. I have begun considering the message boards on which they are exchanged to be narrow but important release valves, allowing posters to talk about the feelings that arise from being time-bound: depression, midlife crises, the dysmorphia of living in a human body.

What ailed Miss Smith, whose car slid into a ditch after a cocktail party, and who witnessed “groups of Pictish warriors of the late seventh century, ca. 685 AD,” if not an understanding of her smallness in history’s vast expanse? Why did two academics, famous in the time-slip community for writing a book about spotting Marie Antoinette in the Versailles grounds, encounter trees that looked lifeless, “like wood worked in tapestry”? Perhaps in that instant, like the last queen of France’s Ancien Régime, they felt radically out of joint with their present moment.

If you suspend disbelief, you’ll find these threads constitute a philosophical inquiry about the place of the spirit in our physical beings. They debate the merits of subjectivity and objectivity and question the idea that time is a one-lane highway to death.

These writers argue that our past and future can suffuse our present, unveiling an epic dimension of our quotidian existences in moments when we slip and, like Frank, feel eternity.

[Pris]

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
Can you provide any examples, proof? Just curious, you know.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HfP9SSm1BAI

Although I have experienced myself timeslips (in Istanbul amongst others), therefore I know it can happen, this pic ain’t one. We have to be always a bit suspicious of false representations.

It's fantastic that you say you've experienced "time slips". Can you provide any proof? I can tell you I've not had "time slips", but I've had OBE experiences and I can describe those experiences in great detail. Not only am I unable to prove any of it, you have no idea if I'm lying about it or if I was stoned out of my mind or what.

[Pris]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
Yes, that's what I said. That was the whole point. The whole purpose behind making the video in the first place was to expose the fake story...

I assumed it was obvious

We're talking about the first half of the video: yes, it was obvious to me. No, it wouldn't be obvious to MOST other people.

Joe Scott, the maker of the video you shared, presented the story in the first half of the video as the "internet phenomenon" that it was. Then, he hit the BIG RED ALARM and debunked the story in the second half of the video. My point is, I was able to determine it was a hoax BEFORE he hit the BIG RED ALARM. In other words, I didn't need Joe Scott to tell me it was fake. I figured it out by myself by pausing the video on the "future" photograph of "Sergei Ponomarenko" and taking a closer look.

To be clear, I really liked the video/analysis because it showed how easy it is to make a hoax. Thanks for sharing it.

Then, just for fun, I went on to suggest that maybe there's a real Sergei Ponomarenko story that's being covered up by this "obvious" fake story of "Sergei Ponomarenko" to prevent further investigation into a coverup by convincing everyone the story is BS. This is about conning people who think they can't be conned.

I hope that clears things up.



Just when you think you're thinking
OUTSIDE THE BOX...

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
I assumed it was obvious

[Bill Ryan]

Bumping this fascinating thread with a story told by Tim Swartz, the author of a new book called Weird Time.

At 56:29 in this interview about the book, Swartz, a little reluctant to share his experience (because, he says, it's a little like UFO researchers talking about their own sighting), recounts how when he was 16 with a new driver's license, he borrowed his father's station wagon and with a friend they went for a short ride outside of town, near Marion, Indiana.

But then they got a flat tire, and pulled over to change the wheel — but had trouble with the jack because there was a lot of loose gravel on the shoulder. However, an old man came to the rescue, who'd walked over from a nearby farmhouse just off the road where they had stopped, offering them a flat wooden board as a secure base for the jack. That quickly solved the problem, and all was well.

When he got home, Swartz's mother insisted on thanking the kind man by baking him a pie or a cake. But then when Swartz returned to what he was certain was the exact same location on the road, which he was very familiar with, the house was not there. There was just a foundation where a house used to be, a walkway leading to the road, and a bunch of very overgrown rose bushes.

[Flash]

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Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
Can you provide any examples, proof? Just curious, you know.

Although I have experienced myself timeslips (in Istanbul amongst others), therefore I know it can happen, this pic ain’t one. We have to be always a bit suspicious of false representations.

Funny me too, in Istanbul too. Interesting what is in Istanbul that shows you time slips? This happened a few times in my 4 years there on and off. I would shut up not telling anyone so as not to be perceived as crazy. But when I finally told some people, they were amazed and told me some Istanbul history linked to my visions (time slips).

I did have one in Paris, well not a time slip as such, more of a remembrance of maybe a past life. I knew where Napoleon's stables were without anyone telling me. I went straight there with a feeling of wanting to see my horse. (I am French Canadian, and did not know much about Paris).

[Miller]

Slightly off topic . . .

About 15 years ago I went to visit a cousin I hadn’t seen in years and her family. It was the first time I’d met her husband and children. It was a beautiful summer day and we all spent lunchtime and most of the afternoon in the garden of a pub playing guessing games with my cousin’s young children and telling stories. I drank 2 glasses of red wine.

Around 4 o’clock we walked to my cousin’s house and on the way I bought them some groceries (they weren’t very well off) and also popped into the off licence. To be honest I could’ve murdered a cup of tea but the wine was opened as soon as we got home and I was poured a glass of warm white wine, ugh! To be sociable I drank a little of it but then one of the husband’s friends arrive on a motorbike and I felt it was time to leave.

My cousin accompanied me to Tonbridge station, and as we passed a park there was an orchestra playing classical music which made the day even better. When we arrived at the station my cousin bade me farewell and went home, and I sat down on a bench to wait for a train. I noticed two people further up the platform on another bench and I was thinking what a lovely day it had been.

So the train arrived and I got up from the bench and opened a carriage door. “Where is this train going?” I asked (because trains from Tonbridge either went to Charing Cross or Waterloo East). “Where do you want to go?” was the response. “I want to go to Charing Cross” I said and then I was told, “You’re already here . . .”. Astonished, I looked to my right and there I was, on a platform at Charing Cross station with not a clue as to how I got there.

I bet you’re thinking I was roofied. That was my first thought as well, and there can’t really be any other explanation, but I felt perfectly OK, no headache or hangover, nothing, and when I went to the Ladies my makeup was still intact, eyes bright, nothing untoward at all. I walked all the way home trying to remember something about the journey, but I’d had a complete black-out for more than 40minutes, yet still managed to catch the right train and get off at my destination.

I never did find out what happened. When I emailed my cousin the following day and mentioned the missing time she made no comment except to say let’s do it again soon (yeah right . . .), but I can’t believe she would have knowingly just left me at the station. Anything could’ve happened, but mercifully it didn’t.

Missing time bothered me for the longest time – I even thought I might’ve been abducted by aliens as I would surely have remembered SOMEthing, but no, to this day it’s all still a complete blank.

[Miller]

The Most Convincing Time Traveller

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ILMWHb545bM

(19:51)
The intriguing story of Sergio Ponomarenko's first-hand real experience of time travel, who "snapped" a picture of a UFO in 1958 and the next instant he was transported to 2006.
One of the comments under the video say this is a hoax but nevertheless it's an interesting story.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Miller (here)
The Most Convincing Time Traveller

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ILMWHb545bM

(19:51)
The intriguing story of Sergio Ponomarenko's first-hand real experience of time travel, who "snapped" a picture of a UFO in 1958 and the next instant he was transported to 2006.
One of the comments under the video say this is a hoax but nevertheless it's an interesting story.

We have a thread all about this here:

• Time Traveler Sergei Ponomarenko -- Video Proof?

And I do have to say, if I may, that I convinced myself fairly quickly that this was a hoax. There's quite a lot of info about that on the thread.

[Miller]

Thanks Bill. May I request that the entire post is deleted then?

From Bill:
Thanks! But actually, I do think it's probably best to leave it in here as a useful reference for all those interested in researching this whole fascinating topic.

[Inversion]

This is the best compilation of examples of time slips I've seen. He covers the Roman soldiers walking in a basement and their legs weren't visible probably because ground level during their time was just before the basement floor. Next door to the home was the location of Roman barracks. I'm thinking a possible motive for the mud flood was to literally bury the past. People going into shops, restaurants and inns that are in a different time period. AJ claims the most occurrences of time slips happen on Bold Street in Liverpool, England. He then discussed the theories of telluric currents, ley lines, worm holes & quantum entanglement.

The Why Files thread.

08/23/24 (47:51)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vLfV9PowEbw