Accusatory Claims in a Controversial Conspiracy Research World

[ExomatrixTV]

• Accusatory Claims in a Controversial Conspiracy Research World

• I use this interaction as a perfect example:

Posted by 7alon (here)
I'll pass, since she was recently exposed as a shill.

If so, why not show the alleged evidence of your accusatory claim @7alon so that we can make up our own mind without having to go on hearsay alone.
Accusatory claims of anything without (credible trusted) sources are just that ... "claims" .... nothing more.

If you study my past (last 33 years) of me being proactive in the Alternative Media world, I have a strong track-record providing source material of my claims by default ....

Unless it is (they are) just my:

• 01. opinion(s) or
• 02. speculation(s) or
• 03. my "best guesses" or
• 04. pondering different options or
• 05. consideration(s) or
• 06. having certain assumptions without real evidence etc. etc.

If that happens I mostly use keywords & key-phrases like: "it may" ... "it could be that" ... "maybe" .... "my estimate/estimation is" ... "if I am right, then ..." ... "it seems that" ... "having beliefs" connected to "gut-feelings" which I explained many times I rather avoid having "beliefs", because in most cases it does not really help me to have them, it only feeds to a tunnel vision confirmation bias loop >>> especially when you are obsessed with a belief-system.

• Overall, it is mostly perfectly clear when I am guessing/speculating or having real proof/solid evidence.

Some are happy to believe their memories of "seeing the evidence" without checking their claims of the alleged "evidence" because it seems: "convincing enough" then when asked what it is based upon they do not like to admit it was just a "memory" without really checking without providing source links ... without allowing others to question/examine the source links claims ... because it was "convincing enough" is "key" to spread the "hear say method" can go viral.

• And even if anyone makes mistakes, you bet there are people making it much bigger and love to exaggerate with countless misrepresentations, especially when there is an ideology or dogmatic belief-system behind their motives.

Bill Ryan or myself, could also be "exposed" if we made a human error or trusted the wrong people in the past etc. etc. and that could be the bases of a "hit-peace article" having countless unfounded assumptions ... When such accusatory claims source links are not shared so that others can check it out for themselves, you are left with someone "memory" of accusatory claims made by others.

That is why I hope/expect people add source links of accusatory claims ... and allow it to be checked, questioned & examined ... How much of it is true and what part is exaggerated and/or misrepresented? ... Parts that are true could be forgiven IF you know the whole background story behind it ... but that is often the problem in a world of (shallow) soundbites & slanderous memes.


For the record: Not all memes are bad ... the best memes are those who provide correct source links that are actually based upon real solid research!

Many memes that are half-truths are more than often targeted by: "fact-checkers" sites used by big video- & social media-platforms to: censor, shadow-ban, de-list from search engines, deplatform, bury comments, ban critical thinkers etc. etc. And there is a very big chance many "half-truth" memes are not even made by conspiracy researchers, but by people who pose as "conspiracy researchers" so that anyone copying it sharing it re-uploading it is PART of the problem on purpose! (by design!).

• Old quote of mine:

quote: "Having a conspiracy theory is not that different from having a crime theory ... so who exactly benefits if certain crime theories are not further investigated and systematically downplayed & marginalized?

* If a conspiracy is (partly) in the open does NOT make it any less criminal nor less harmful ..."
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cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
June 2nd, 2023 🦜🦋🌳

• source top picture here

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update:

• Posted by 7alon (here)
  

  Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
  

  Posted by Le Chat (here)
  

  Posted by 7alon (here)
  You ramble too much, all you had to do was ask for a source, no need to go on a tirade of drivel, attempting to insult my intelligence LOL. It makes you look defensive.

  Posted by 7alon (here)
  

  Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
  

  Posted by Le Chat (here)
  ..........
  
  Ouch

  I was mostly talking in general, if anyone takes that too personally when I am generalizing that's on them, him, her etc.

  No, it is also on you. Use your words better, sometimes less is more/better communication. Do not attempt to gaslight because you know you were called out. I have even thanked you for your post/thanks button. No attempt to apologise.. "I'm sorry if" etc. Anyway, this is the last response I will give you because we have already derailed this thread, which wasn't my intention.

  I stand with all I said! (read again) yes part was personal but with a question-mark awaiting possible evidence yet to be examined, most was not >>> as there are many more people not giving source links when using accusatory claims.
  • Better was/is for me to be more clear why I made such a rant and why it applies to 1000s of conspiracy researchers world-wide especially in a world of "soundbites and memes".
  So if I was not able to separate the two points of view more clearly, I apologize because OF COURSE I am 100% interested to study your evidence if it stands out to scrutiny from the rest of us!
  
  Sincerely,
  John 🦜🦋🌳

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• Relevant cross posting part 1 of 2:

Posted by Tintin (here)
Actually, David Icke might for once be wrong here

I can't access the Telegram account from work; who is the 'top' political scientist being quoted here? The source? (Smells a little like black propaganda being circulated.) Just a hunch.

Nobody is pure as the driven snow of course and that would apply to VP too but there are factions at play opposed to him, as well as those that support him.

It seems a rapid growing trend that more and more "alternative media platforms" spread accusatory claims with no real sources given, no honest proper context given ... And in the world of diplomacy, politicians are not necessarily "in bed with each other" when shaking hands and/or smiling in front of a camera for the press.

I personally find it really extremely harrowing dumb that people use that as "evidence" claiming "they all are part of the same agenda" ... Meanwhile, I know that so many fall for this "guilty by association" assumption ... There are so many examples of people who really do not work together but are pushed to at least "talk to each other" so that others can have more peaceful beneficial common grounds/prosperties/economics etc ... In other words, both sides may represent different fractions of people who do not want endless wars nor economic sanctions etc. etc.

• I have always known that in "diplomacy" is not what it seems!

It seems "friendly" it seems "they love it" ... but is all an act to show they know how the game is played ... That does not mean they "must" be part of a deeper agenda >>> but for certain "conspiracy researchers" it seems that way <<< and I get that, but I find it still dumb, sorry ... Yes, on super high levels that is beyond all the puppet politicians they have an end-goal and that is totalitarian technocratic "global governance"!

But not all (allegedly) "puppet politicians" have to go along with sacrificing so much for WEF - Agenda2030 - NetZero2050 - Great Reset - CBDC/ESG - NWO Tyranny - Depopulation Agenda etc.

If you know you are being used, but you have different plans, that is the opposite of the NWO Tyranny ... How would you plan to win this battle? ... By showing all cards openly, or do you have to use (partly) deception tactics to fool your "overlords" that you do not want them to succeed!

• This issue, is something I always struggle with ... I never like mind-games & deceptive tactics, but these things seem inevitable in a world of fighting very powerful global psychopathic control freaks!

You can choose to do things that are done to outsmart these psychopaths ... at the same time you will be accused of "working for them" even if it is not the case.

It is so easy talking & judging on the side-line safely behind your desktop computer, safe from any consequences ... The "conspiracy accusations" on so many levels has become completely mainstream ... So much so, you do not even register as "awkward" anymore.

Too many are part of this discussion now that the vast majority can safely discuss this now ... Yes, there is still global coordinated censorship going on BUT it is not working for them, it only helps the resistance to grow faster!

In short: "nothing is as it seems" but this also goes for so many: "conspiracy memes" especially when there are no proper sources given! >>> Conjecture mixed with assumptions is partly the "new normal" in the "conspiracy research" world nowadays!



cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
July 10th, 2023 🦜🦋🌳

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• @Bill Ryan. Quote (quoting me first):

It seems a rapid growing trend that more and more "alternative media platforms" spread accusatory claims with no real sources given, no honest proper context given ...

Yes. The davidicke.com website post quoted was very unlikely to have been written by David himself, and it merely copied a Russophobic Daily Mail article verbatim. Totally lazy and unthinking, and whoever did that should have known better."

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• source

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related topic:

• Meme Your Memeiest Memes Thread ...

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Relevant cross posting part 2 of 2:

Posted by SoulValor (here)

Hi PlasmaVortex,
you state two things as factual yet I've never seen evidence of this. That Putin is a) "jewish" and b) a "pedophile" ... I like most of your posts, but I think you should be careful about statements like these - because how can you be so sure? Do you have (irrefutable) proof? Or at least some type of incriminating material? I remember you mentioned earlier that Jewish intelligence has pedophile material on Putin but you didn't provide a link/source for that.

I am open to the idea that he might be Jewish as well as a pedophile, but it doesn't really sound right to me. I mean, I know that a lot of the elite including politicians - especially in the west - have been pretty much exposed as pedophiles. (And a lot of them are Jews too.) Even though there isn't often hard evidence either, we have at least witness reports from victims. (Which of course could still be untrue or inaccurate, but the sheer volume of different accounts/witnesses tells us there's something to it. And of course, there's Epstein.) But I've never seen any witness reports regarding Putin being a pedophile, let alone videos or pictures. Have you?

I am aware of the footage of him kissing a boy on the tummy in public. That doesn't constitute proof, however. And having an affair or relationship with a young but full aged female gymnast doesn't either. That's just understandable.
Sure, there was the Russian refugee Alexander Litvinenko who got poisoned in Britain who claimed that Putin is a pedophile - but again, where's the proof? From what I've seen he never produced any evidence either.

It seems a growing trend that more and more "conspiracy researchers" share >>> accusatory claims <<< without adding the necessary source links, so that we can study WHY (they are) he or she is "so sure" of things!

• I wonder how we should deal with this growing trend respectfully, as part of me is totally fed up with that!

For the record: I have nothing against "accusatory claims" as long as they are 100% truthful, and I am almost always open-minded enough to consider the possibility ... So it is not me who tries to dismiss it by default, I just postpone any judgment before the accuser can back up the claims with irrefutable evidence that can be triple checked & verified!

• If the accuser refuses to do so, then I realize I wasted my time on reading their claims ... Which is happening more and more last few months ... I wonder why that is.
• I also like to believe that Project Avalon Forum stands out in having higher standards in how we deal with (highly) controversial issues/topics ... And in this context me using the word: "believe" is correct

In general terms: if you chose to (and/or):

• Suggest
• Insinuate
• Judge
• Imply
• Assume
• Challenge
• Point to
• Indicate
• Defy
• Frame
• Label
• Brand
• Summon
• Charge
• Incriminate
• Hold someone accountable
• Point the finger at
• Blame
• Allege
• Attribute
• Bring charges
• Attack verbally (direct or indirectly)
• Accuse Foul Play or Someone being Compromised

To frame anyone (see list) that is highly respected ... you know >>> you also have to "face the music".

... and show to us that you care, by responding to all valid legit points that are made that contradict your assumptions.

If not ... and your mind is already made up ... (because your "gut feeling" supersede anything else?) ... what is the point of all this?

• and in my view, the above insights apply to all of us.

But in general, accusations that someone within the Alternative Media or Conspiracy Research world "must" be a:

• Shill
• Controlled Opposition
• Pedophile
• Rapist
• Racist
• Fascist
• Neo-Nazi
• Far Right/Right Wing
• Troll
• Poser
• Dis-info Agent
• Faker
• Fraud
• Scammer
• Hoaxer
• Criminal
• Stealer
• Serial Liar
• Zionist
• Jesuit
• Freemason
• Part of a "Jewish Conspiracy"
• "Government Agent"
• "Doing it only for the money"
• "Putin apologist"
• etc. etc.

For the record: I have nothing against 26 types of "accusatory claims" I just listed here, as long as they are PROVEN to be 100% truthful/correct, and I am almost always open-minded enough to consider the possibility ... So it is not me who tries to dismiss it by default >>> I just postpone final judgment until the accuser can back up their claims with irrefutable evidence that can be triple checked & verified!

cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳

• When an Accusation like 'Controlled Opposition' loses its value!