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    Default Re: Two suns or Nibiru at Bangkok

    Interesting footage. One thing to note is that the smaller light (the one on the left) is surrounded by a haze (maybe cloud cover, maybe smog?). I'm not sure what to make of this, but will check back later for a potential explanation.

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    Quote Posted by corson (here)
    thanks Irishspirit. the one thing i noticed is that the other passengers don't seem to notice anything different. they're just sitting there riding the bus.......isn't that weird? if i saw two suns, i would be making a whole lot of noise about it. great vid., leaves some room for speculation, but it also keeps the mind moving forward.
    regards, corson
    Thanks irishspirit

    Or maybe the Thais aready know about it. It's a pity no-one from Thailand is on this forum to clarify that.
    Its definately not fake. As the bus is moving you can clearly see the second sun behind the pylon wires.

    Here is a news clip from last year. My Thai is very bad so I haven't got a clue what they are saying.
    Some would say that this is a sundog which is an optical effect for crystal ice in the atmosphere. If so then its fooled the Thai news channel. But its funny its happening in Thailand.

    20JUN10 THAILAND ; Breaking News at 5 PM ; TV Ch7 ; 3 and 4 Suns and UFO at Pattaya




    Heres an article from News.com.au

    Tatooine's twin suns - coming to a planet near you just as soon as Betelgeuse explodes

    * By Claire Connelly
    * From: news.com.au
    * January 19, 2011 12:12PM


    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...#ixzz1FHZjL5hx

    * Betelgeuse losing mass
    * Explosion will create "new sun"
    * May be set for 2012 appearance

    IT'S the ultimate experience for Star Wars fans - staring forlornly off into the distance as twin suns sink into the horizon.

    Yet it's not just a figment of George Lucas's imagination - twin suns are real. And here's the big news - they could be coming to Earth.

    Yes, any day now we see a second sun light up the sky, if only for a matter of weeks.

    The infamous red super-giant star in Orion’s nebula - Betelgeuse - is predicted to go gangbusters and the impending super-nova may reach Earth before 2012, and when it does, all of our wildest Star Wars dreams will come true.

    The second biggest star in the universe is losing mass, a typical indication that a gravitation collapse is occurring.

    When that happens, we'll get our second sun, according to Dr Brad Carter, Senior Lecturer of Physics at the University of Southern Queensland.

    “This old star is running out of fuel in its centre”, Dr Carter said.

    “This fuel keeps Betelgeuse shining and supported. When this fuel runs out the star will literally collapse in upon itself and it will do so very quickly.”

    When this happens a giant explosion will occur, tens of millions of times brighter than the sun.

    The bad news is, it could also happen in a million years. But who's counting?

    The important thing is, one day, night will become day for several weeks on Earth.

    “This is the final hurrah for the star,” says Dr Carter.

    “It goes bang, it explodes, it lights up - we’ll have incredible brightness for a brief period of time for a couple of weeks and then over the coming months it begins to fade and then eventually it will be very hard to see at all.”

    The interwebs is being flooded with doomsday theories saying the impending supernova confirms the Mayan calendar’s prediction of the Armageddon in 2012.

    These conspiracies aren’t helped by the word “Betelgeuse” being associated with the devil.

    Though it is a derivation of the Arabic phrase “yad Al Jauza” meaning the “hand of Al-Jauza” referring to a mysterious woman that controls the order of the universe, it hasn’t stopped some people from clearing out their bunkers and stocking up on tinned food.

    Far from being a sign of the apocalypse, according to Dr Carter the supernova will provide Earth with elements necessary for survival and continuity.

    “When a star goes bang, the first we will observe of it is a rain of tiny particles called nuetrinos,” says Dr Carter.

    “They will flood through the Earth and bizarrely enough, even though the supernova we see visually will light up the night sky, 99 per cent of the energy in the supernova is released in these particles that will come through our bodies and through the Earth with absolutely no harm whatsoever.”

    Stars such as the supernova produce elements that are critical to life on Earth.

    Quite literally, the whole of Earth and our solar system is made of star stuff, including most of the heavy elements of the Periodic Table.

    “It literally makes things like gold, silver - all the heavy elements - even things like uranium….a star like Betelgeuse is instantly forming for us all sorts of heavy elements and atoms that our own Earth and our own bodies have from long past supernovi,” Dr carter said.

    Some experts have speculated Betelgeuse’s explosion may cause a neutron star or result in the formation of a black hole approximately 1300 light years from Earth, but Dr Carter says it could go either way.

    “There’s a reasonably even chance of a neutron star or a black hole”, he says.

    “If it were me, I’d suspect it would more likely become a black hole at 20 solar masses.”

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...#ixzz1FHZFgRBW

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    Champion the Wonderhorse, i didn't realize that there was so much info about this. thanks so much.
    regards, corson

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    Default Re: Two suns or Nibiru at Bangkok

    The photo in post #7 looks like some kind of exposure error. The "sun" on the top reveals lines across it of the trees in the foreground of the real son

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    Default Re: Two suns or Nibiru at Bangkok

    Thanks for the vids. I've seen partly doubled-up sun effects near the horizon when there banded cloud. I wished the camera had been running two more seconds, or the edit had delayed for two more seconds. The cut came exactly at the moment when we would find if it was an optical cloud effect separating out an inverted reflected image.This is a possible reason that the 'sun' in the cloud not as bright as the other. That Thai bus one though ... danged if I can figure it out!
    Thanks - great thread. Then there's the Betelgeuse thing. Gave me visions just thinking about it. What a ride! ... with the universe doing stuff at every level.
    God - as they say - is great!

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    Default Re: Two suns or Nibiru at Bangkok

    Hello all,

    Here are some links in regards to Betelgeuse...

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post103239

    And:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post103305

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    I though that when nibaru appeared it would appear first in the very southern hemisphere. FIrst Tasmania??????

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    Quote Posted by corson (here)
    Champion the Wonderhorse, i didn't realize that there was so much info about this. thanks so much.
    regards, corson
    Thanks Corson.
    I didn't either. I just got curious. I was put off by everyone saying it's all optical illusions, but too much of this is being seen all over the world now.
    Isn't there an old Nostradamus prophecy about two suns being seen?

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    Default Re: Two suns or Nibiru at Bangkok

    Hi all,

    I just came across this thread now and am actually in Bangkok for work.

    I didn't see two suns yesterday, or the day before-- or ever. Just the one. I checked around for news here of two suns, but didn't come up with anything except for the video footage Irishspirit posted. I even asked a few Thais if they'd seen two suns in the last few days but only got some bemused looks.

    To answer LighningResistor's post:
    Quote One thing to note is that the smaller light (the one on the left) is surrounded by a haze (maybe cloud cover, maybe smog?)
    Yes, Bangkok is extremely smoggy. I was just remarking to a friend that I haven't seen blue skies here; it's always grey and hazy.

    Except for the few days in the New Year, when most people had gone off for the holidays and there were hardly any cars around, there was happily some blue... but that's quite a rare occurrence here, sadly.

    As for the other video from Channel 7 news-- I can help some with the translation. It's not perfect, and please don't quote me, because I had to guess some words as formal Thai (spoken in the news, for example) is quite a jump from colloquial Thai. Anyway, here goes:

    "Yesterday we presented a story about three suns in Si Sa Ket. Today, we have a story of four suns, also reported from Si Sa Ket.

    [Not exactly sure about this next sentence but I believe it says…] Yesterday it seemed like a strange occurrence but today, villagers believe it's something that really needs to be investigated by authorities.

    Let's look at the four suns and see how it looks, viewers.
    (flashes onto video footage of the suns) Yesterday, villagers reported seeing three suns up in the sky, from a train station in the province of Seesaket. Locals had recorded three suns yesterday and have been further puzzled today by four suns in the sky-- and several witness recorded the phenomenon around the same time, also from the train station.

    It (the suns) has the shape of a coconut (with the fibres still on it), and they can easily and clearly be seen with the naked eye.

    Naitung Suwong (sp?), a villager, is 86 years old, and believes that the phenomenon is a bad omen for things to come. Whether it has to do with the state of the world or outer space conditions, he's urging everyone to pull in together and do merit (religious ceremony) for our safety and protection.

    (flashes to the Mr. Suwong and I wish I could understand what he's saying but his accent is hard to follow. Plus his lack of front teeth doesn't help. But I'm pretty sure he's continuing on the religious stance.)

    Newscaster: This story really needs to be followed up by scientists/academics

    It's a bit like what happened in Pattaya [beach town an hour out of Bangkok]
    Yes, it was an unusual sighting in the sky, as well. A foreigner had a camera phone in his hand and was able to record the strange sighting in Laem Chabang [25 kms from Pattaya]

    Let's take a look at that video clip taken by (so and so) from Finland. He'd gone to visit a parachuting club with his girlfriend in Laem Chabang and saw a UFO flying in the sky with great speed. It's shape looks somewhat like this picture we're showing you. (Flashes to still shot of UFO.) [I think the "somewhat" means the stillshot of the UFO from the actual recording being shown isn't clear.]

    (Mr. Finland) took the footage with his mobile phone camera and when he played back the footage to his friends- they, too, immediately recognised something strange in the sky. He moved the camera's focus from his girlfriend and pointed it to the sky.

    Slowing down the footage here shows that there really was a UFO flying by. We can guarantee that this clip hasn't been edited or fabricated in anyway.

    As for the sighting of UFO's in the skies in Chiang Mai (city North of Thailand), householders contacted and passed on a photo to Channel 7 News of Chiang Mai with claims of it being a UFO. It was taken at 22:00 last night. The photo was looked at by Professor so and so of such and such department [Sorry! I just can't understand that part] and said that it wasn't a UFO or a comet or falling star, but was simply debris released from Russian satellites."

    Hope that helps.

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    Default Re:  Where is Planet X? (Marshall Masters)

    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Ever since those damn rebels destroyed my Death Star, I have been thinking about a third one, but I don't have one yet.
    So you say!


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    Quote Posted by Adrift (here)
    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Ever since those damn rebels destroyed my Death Star, I have been thinking about a third one, but I don't have one yet.
    So you say!

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    Default Re: Where is Planet X? (Marshall Masters)

    Hi Mannela, very interesting thread, I now have my evening bundle .. Thank you!

    I saw this on Jimmy Prophet titled:

    The Planet X/Nibiru/ELEnin Brown Dwarf Event Timeline, 2011

    https://youtube.com/user/bluebear.../4/XStBhbiPIzU

    at 9:24

    So the whole site is therefore disinfo.

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    Hi Mannela, very interesting thread, I now have my evening bundle .. Thank you!

    Sorry Mandala, I miss spelt your name. I saw the vid's - looks like disinfo to me. Symbols and Pyramids again.... just off.

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    Thanks Ruby, it does help.

    I laughed about the bemused looks, reminds me when I was there.

    So there you have it. It's not widely known by the Thais. So its strange about the non-reaction from the Thais on the bus.

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    Default Re: Where is Planet X? (Marshall Masters)

    Somewhere between Mars and Jupiter i'd say accoring to this quote :

    Quote Posted by passiglight (here)
    Hi folks,, please can someone help me to comprehend the meaning of a line in a NASA statement regarding WISE...

    I understand they are talking about the planet named TYCHE which is hypothesized to be in the Oort cloud..

    But what i don't understand here is in amongst the list of things they have found,they make 2 references about a "dead star or a Brown dwarf

    "So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter. "

    In the first they say it's in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter,, then later they go on to say "The two bands used in the second sky coverage were designed to identify very small, cold stars (or brown dwarfs) -- which are much like planets larger than Jupiter, as Tyche is hypothesized to be. "

    hERE IS THE LINK....

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WI...e20110218.html


    and here is the full copy of text from that page


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    Background

    In November 2010, the scientific journal Icarus published a paper by astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire, who proposed the existence of a binary companion to our sun, larger than Jupiter, in the long-hypothesized "Oort cloud" -- a faraway repository of small icy bodies at the edge of our solar system. The researchers use the name "Tyche" for the hypothetical planet. Their paper argues that evidence for the planet would have been recorded by the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE).

    WISE is a NASA mission, launched in December 2009, which scanned the entire celestial sky at four infrared wavelengths about 1.5 times. It captured more than 2.7 million images of objects in space, ranging from faraway galaxies to asteroids and comets relatively close to Earth. Recently, WISE completed an extended mission, allowing it to finish a complete scan of the asteroid belt, and two complete scans of the more distant universe, in two infrared bands. So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.

    Following its successful survey, WISE was put into hibernation in February 2011. Analysis of WISE data continues. A preliminary public release of the first 14 weeks of data is planned for April 2011, and the final release of the full survey is planned for March 2012.

    Frequently Asked Questions

    Q: When could data from WISE confirm or rule out the existence of the hypothesized planet Tyche?

    A: It is too early to know whether WISE data confirms or rules out a large object in the Oort cloud. Analysis over the next couple of years will be needed to determine if WISE has actually detected such a world or not. The first 14 weeks of data, being released in April 2011, are unlikely to be sufficient. The full survey, scheduled for release in March 2012, should provide greater insight. Once the WISE data are fully processed, released and analyzed, the Tyche hypothesis that Matese and Whitmire propose will be tested.

    Q: Is it a certainty that WISE would have observed such a planet if it exists?

    A: It is likely but not a foregone conclusion that WISE could confirm whether or not Tyche exists. Since WISE surveyed the whole sky once, then covered the entire sky again in two of its infrared bands six months later, WISE would see a change in the apparent position of a large planet body in the Oort cloud over the six-month period. The two bands used in the second sky coverage were designed to identify very small, cold stars (or brown dwarfs) -- which are much like planets larger than Jupiter, as Tyche is hypothesized to be.

    Q: If Tyche does exist, why would it have taken so long to find another planet in our solar system?

    A: Tyche would be too cold and faint for a visible light telescope to identify. Sensitive infrared telescopes could pick up the glow from such an object, if they looked in the right direction. WISE is a sensitive infrared telescope that looks in all directions.

    Q: Why is the hypothesized object dubbed "Tyche," and why choose a Greek name when the names of other planets derive from Roman mythology?

    A: In the 1980s, a different companion to the sun was hypothesized. That object, named for the Greek goddess "Nemesis," was proposed to explain periodic mass extinctions on the Earth. Nemesis would have followed a highly elliptical orbit, perturbing comets in the Oort Cloud roughly every 26 million years and sending a shower of comets toward the inner solar system. Some of these comets would have slammed into Earth, causing catastrophic results to life. Recent scientific analysis no longer supports the idea that extinctions on Earth happen at regular, repeating intervals. Thus, the Nemesis hypothesis is no longer needed. However, it is still possible that the sun could have a distant, unseen companion in a more circular orbit with a period of a few million years -- one that would not cause devastating effects to terrestrial life. To distinguish this object from the malevolent "Nemesis," astronomers chose the name of Nemesis's benevolent sister in Greek mythology, "Tyche."

    JPL manages and operates the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The principal investigator, Edward Wright, is at UCLA. The mission was competitively selected under NASA's Explorers Program managed by the Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. The science instrument was built by the Space Dynamics Laboratory, Logan, Utah, and the spacecraft was built by Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp., Boulder, Colo. Science operations and data processing take place at the Infrared Processing and Analysis Center at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. Caltech manages JPL for NASA. More information is online at http://www.nasa.gov/wise, http://wise.astro.ucla.edu and http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/wise .


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    I realise the point of this text is to explore the possibility of tyche and could WISE have found it,in the Oort cloud,,,,,,

    BUT THIS ????????


    So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.


    i just couldn't believe my eyes when they mentioned they have found a brown dwarf, inbetween mars and jupiter,,,,,,,because surley that must be Nibiru,, or Planet X, they are talking about !!!!


    Please can someone with good cosmic knowledge look at this text and explain for me

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    Default Re:  Where is Planet X? (Marshall Masters)

    Quote Posted by Mandala (here)
    Quote Posted by corson (here)
    Mandala, thanks for the info., but there seems to be some missing information, or is that just me?????
    regards, corson
    Sorry corson about not posting all the videos. I have them all here. I hope you enjoy them. Have a wonderful week.
    ooooh, i didn't know that there were more vids. sorry, i just thought the guy left stuff out.......i'll go back and watch again. i was confused for a minute...
    warmest regards, corson

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    Red face The Kolbrin Bible & Planet X & 2012

    An intriguing take on what could happen to our Sun and ourselves in 2012.

    Could we see Two Suns in 5 Years? (in 6 parts)

    I recommend watching the above video before listening to the following Red Ice Creation interview of Marshall Masters.

    Kolbrin Bible & Planet X (in 8 parts)

    Summary:

    Marshall Masters joins us to talk about the Kolbrin and the Kolbrin Bible in our first hour. The Kolbrin is compiled of manuscripts that was saved before the burning of Glastonbury Monastery 1184 AD and was safeguarded by a group called "The Culdians". We talk these preserved ancient records of the Egyptians and the Druids that seem to correlate information about catastrophe and passing by planetary bodies in the past.

    Topics Discussed: The Kolbrin, Ancient Egyptian Celtic Text, Ancient Tales about Planet X, Solar Activity, Global Warming, Warming on Mars, Jupiter & Saturn, NASA, David Morrison, The Kolbrin Bible, Nibiru, Sitchin, The Destroyer & The Frightener, The Phonecians, Sesudah and Hanoch, The Ten Plagues of Egypt, The Hebrew Exodus, Moses, Suns of Fire, Celts, Rome, Atlantis, Gene Rodenberry and more.

    In hour two we begin talking about more modern research on Planet X, like our Binary star System, "the Nemesis" that NASA also is now talking about. We go back to 2003 and ask what happened then, when Planet X was supposed to have come by. Marshall talks about Nancy Leider, Mark Hasselwood and his book Blindsided.

    We also discuss some new developments around 2006 with the Telescope at the South Pole. We talk about disinformation attacks directed at him and his team that seem to originate from London, the main Banking center of the world. We talk about upcoming catastrophe, the Global Seed Vault in Svalbard, the Georgia Guide stones, The Elites and their survival attempts.

    Marshall also talks about what he calls subtext messages and channeling of information and we do go into the unavoidable year 2012. If Planet X is coming, when will the guacamole will hit the fan? We end talking about how to best prepare in Marshall's view. from March 21, 2010


    Personally, I feel he probably has the science right and it makes sense when considering the behavior of TPTW. What he doesn't offer is what to really do about it. But I prefer George Kavassilas' work for that. GK's message is much more positive.
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    Default Re: The Kolbrin Bible & Planet X & 2012

    I haven't watched the videos yet, Nearing - I've already watched one lot of Kolbrin Bible one's today and I'm done in - but the subject reminded me of this.

    Is there anyone here who can translate?
    Two suns:


    The barriers of your belief will form the bars which imprison your mind.

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