Aging, the great equalizer

[kirolak]

Perhaps without the process of aging, we would resist dying even more. . . .a friend of mine always used to say he looked forward to old age & the "invisibility" or "anonymity" it would bring, & I think he was right to some degree; an "old lady" doesn't come under the intense scrutiny of the passing show in the same way that a young woman does. Personally, I have always believed I was 19 years old, for some reason . . .then unexpectedly see myself in a mirror & wonder what happened to her! The effect of life in a world where body-identification rules our perceptions. . .

Old age could be welcome if one lived in a society where the frail were respected & cared for, not in old-age homes where we get shunted to die; but in a real sense. I think it is important to reflect, & prepare for one's death as best we know how.

[Stardad]

Well I must say that this trend is taking a fatalistic turn! And yes, genetic and societal programming are part of the problem.

If your programs are the problem, at least try to change them! This has been the aim of my meditations for quite some time and I humbly suggest you also try.

I have expressed my recipe to extend physical life in an earlier post but I guess the most important point is having a joyfull, positive and gratefull attitude towards being here at this time and participating in this grand awakening! Yes I know that this awakening will not happen to all, but each individual must make it's own choice. Let us focus on us, the ones that want to graduate!

For some reason this thought makes me smile every morning!

I wish you all a most splendid day!

[RunningDeer]

“We deprogram our ability to heal ourselves,” says Dr. Bruce Lipton

Snippets:

1. We’ve been so programed to devalue and disempower ourselves that we see ourselves as victims. Some frail biological entities, ripe for bacteria to eat us all up. Which is totally untrue.
   
2. And the joke? Many people get well on the way to the doctors. Without having any treatment. And the reason is: they already had the ability to get well but the program step says, “Until you do this, the healing doesn’t start.” So we deprogram our ability to heal ourselves.
   
3. We’re just average people. We have no extraordinary powers. Even healing isn’t one of our powers. That's a belief.
   
4. What’s interesting is that we have an innate ability to heal ourselves. So you actually stall your own ability to heal yourself until you go to the doctor.
   
5. We have to start from that belief and change these beliefs to who we really are. We are profoundly powerful people. We can walk across hot coals. A woman can lifted a car off an infant … Where’s the frail image come from? That’s a belief.

Segment break downs with quick links, and some paraphrased notes:

Can you explain the difference between Newtonian Physics and Quantum Physics and how they respectively view the world? @ 4:17

Can you explain how the viewpoint of Newtonian Physics limits our ability to heal our bodies? @ 8:29

Is positive thinking enough to change your life? @ 12:17

• Problem? Having a positive thought does not in any way necessitate that those positive thoughts actually manifest themselves. There’s a piece that was left out…

How does our childhood programing effect our current health? @ 26:55

• What do we acquire in that 0-6 year development? That we’re just average people. We have no extraordinary powers. Even healing isn’t one of our powers. Because every time we got sick, we were told we had to go to the doctor to get healed. That’s an experiential program. So what does my subconscious mind learn from this experience? Every time I’m sick I have to go to the doctors. Why? Apparently it’s the step before you get healed. So we build that into the program. What’s interesting is that we have an innate ability to heal ourselves. So you actually stall your own ability to heal yourself until you go to the doctor.
  
  And the joke? Many people get well on the way to the doctors. Without having any treatment. And the reason is: they already had the ability to get well but the program step says, “Until you do this, the healing doesn’t start.” So we deprogram our ability to heal ourselves.

How does unconscious beliefs affect our health? @ 28:06

• It’s based on our individual programs. Because we’ve been so programed to devalue and disempower ourselves that we see ourselves as victims. Some frail biological entities, ripe for bacteria to eat us all up. Which is totally untrue. So we have to start from that belief and change these beliefs to who we really are. We are profoundly powerful people. We can walk across hot coals. A woman can lifted a car off an infant … Where’s the frail image come from? That’s a belief.

Have you seen people change their lives using EFT? @ 29:23

What false beliefs are still being taught to us today about our biology and our health? @ 30:36

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o1Tt0yGMm88

Uploaded on Feb 3, 2011

A field approach to science does not negate the importance of discovering the various mechanism of function that are found in biology. However, a mechanical approach alone limits the scope of discovery while a field approach expands it

[regnak]

Aging well we all die in the end

[Stardad]

Well said Jonsnow! At least our body dies!

But I would like very much to say, as Li Ching Yuen said before passing: “I have done all that I have to do in this world”.

It relates to what I wrote earlier relating to our capacity to contribute and relating to our environment.

Well in my case, I am not quite done yet! And I will continue doing while trying to maintain the best body health possible; why suffer needlesly!

I wish you all the best health possible.

[Megrubbieswet]

My brother, i lost my mum in 2014.. If i did not make it up to her I WOULD BE IN ETERNAL REGRET.. This comment will further support that abandonment of others is a real tragedy. This resonates with me and lifted my day up.. Live life with no regrets, you cant go back!

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Posted by Stardad (here)
Well said Jonsnow! At least our body dies!

But I would like very much to say, as Li Ching Yuen said before passing: “I have done all that I have to do in this world”.

It relates to what I wrote earlier relating to our capacity to contribute and relating to our environment.

Well in my case, I am not quite done yet! And I will continue doing while trying to maintain the best body health possible; why suffer needlesly!

I wish you all the best health possible.

It's all about retaining optimal health which correlates with preventative illness, the more balance you have the less dieseases you are likely to get.

[regnak]

Megrubbieswet sorry about your mum

[Ol' Roy]

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[Megrubbieswet]

Posted by jonsnow (here)
Megrubbieswet sorry about your mum

That's okay, loss is a part of life... Better living and not regretting the time you spent with them.. I closed the book with her so it's okay to go to the next chapter.

[Inversion]

Getting old is like a bad dream. Hey! This isn't what was in the brochure before I incarnated. I want my money back!

This is a 1962 episode of the Twilight Zone called Trade-Ins. An old couple approached a company to get two younger bodies at five grand each but could only afford one.

Trade-Ins

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2tVJhYh33bk

I saw this years ago and it stuck with me. It's the late Don S. Davis from Stargate SG-1. He said "When you get old the machinery starts to fall apart."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=A_4gaPL_fKg

[Sue (Ayt)]

As I grow older, I've realized that aging sure carries a whole new set of challenges.

I don't think we are as prepared as we might be on dealing with these, as they are widely brushed under the table in modern culture, as if they are just not supposed to happen at all, ever.
But yet they do... just at various rates, I guess.

Maybe a thread would be useful on handling the challenges and obstacles.
Maybe I will start one.

[wondering]

Hi Sue, Great post and something that has been occupying my mind a lot in the last year and a half, since Ron died. Being in my 80's feels different to me than being in my 70's. When we are younger, I think for the most part, it is a given inside that we have "miles to go before we sleep", or at least it is reasonable to think that even though we know it might not be true. But in the 80's it is not reasonable to expect that we will have 15 or 20 more years left. Sure, we might, but the odds are not in our favor as they once were. Physical difficulties may increase. Joints, for example, take on bad attitudes about some activities that were no problem not too long ago. Not having any family nearby, I am thinking about whether to stay in my house, or look into a multi level facility where I could get what I might need without having to depend on others so much....no answers yet, just looking, thinking, talking to others in my situation. All of this is against the backdrop of our world situation and where we might be in a year, or two or five regardless of our personal journey.
I was told in a Numerology reading many years ago, the best reading I've ever had, that a major theme in my numbers was that I was here to uplift humanity. This seemed so ridiculous to me then and for many years since. Now I'm thinking it makes a lot of sense, because the main thing I can offer, in fact the only thing I can offer, given many of my circumstances, is to be the Light, the Love and the Truth, which we all in fact ARE, and to intend that that be sent into the world to prevail. It feels like that is something that I can consistently do. The age part will be there regardless.

[JackMcThorn]

Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening

By: Robert Frost

Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.

My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.

He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound’s the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

I was called young the other day by an old friend who is not that much older. I had to reflect on that a bit.

[Harmony]

Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
As I grow older, I've realized that aging sure carries a whole new set of challenges.

I don't think we are as prepared as we might be on dealing with these, as they are widely brushed under the table in modern culture, as if they are just not supposed to happen at all, ever.
But yet they do... just at various rates, I guess.

Maybe a thread would be useful on handling the challenges and obstacles.
Maybe I will start one.

Sue, when I saw your post today I thought, gosh I have been thinking these things off and on. Things like "I never even heard of this or that problem, and it isn't fun sometimes to have new "burdens" to deal with, as though there isn't enough uncertainties already . And you don't even have to be that old to have new unexpected surprises come up. And your right about how many problems get swept under the carpet.

In most countries it is kind of the same when talking about dying and I think that leads to a lot of important things being unsaid when others are not well, like it isn't really going to happen. When my Dad got near the end of his life he really appreciated me talking about what might happen after the last breath and it made him a lot more ok about passing.


And dear Wondering,

I was told in a Numerology reading many years ago, the best reading I've ever had, that a major theme in my numbers was that I was here to uplift humanity. This seemed so ridiculous to me then and for many years since. Now I'm thinking it makes a lot of sense, because the main thing I can offer, in fact the only thing I can offer, given many of my circumstances, is to be the Light, the Love and the Truth, which we all in fact ARE, and to intend that that be sent into the world to prevail. It feels like that is something that I can consistently do. The age part will be there regardless.

That is so wonderful that you can share your gifts and your wisdom because you have the real experience and a good heart. This can bring real connection, because even though we deal with problelms there is that underlying connection and tenderness that our thoughts and intentions can heal and bring energies back into balance as we each have our "inner child" that is often not very far away. It's right there under the surface as our true self isquite beyond the normally thought of things that might cause separation.


And JackMcThorn:

I was called young the other day by an old friend who is not that much older. I had to reflect on that a bit.

that made me smile and what a lovely poem too

[wondering]

Jack McThorn, thank you for posting Frost's entire poem, I didn't think to do it. It is one of my favorites ever. Harmony and Sue, (and anyone else) I would really like to have more of a discussion of how this issue really impacts our lives. Sue, I know you are a caregiver, too. If anyone wants to, I would love to hear how we all relate as those numbers going up and up....with sharing around what has changed for us and what we most think about in terms of the future years ahead. It is such a universal concern. Anyone else deal with "what ifs". Sue, maybe your thought of starting another thread is a good one. Love to you guys!! 🥰

[grapevine]

As an elderly person (not that I think of myself as elderly at all ) . . . this subject interests me greatly.

There's a whole set of differences between our youthful and older selves, which seem to creep up on us all of a sudden. One of the first and (imo) the most important is SARCOPENIA, or muscle loss. There are many videos on YouTube about sarcopenia, but they never quite hit the right spot. More exercise, they say, and while that's correct, the aging person can no longer exercise in the same way that they used to, without pulling something and setting themselves back for weeks, sometimes months.

I first noticed muscle loss as a clumsiness; I used to be able to take the kitchen chair, hop up on it and get something off the top shelf, but now I have to hold on to the back of the chair and push myself up. Ditto on the way down. Similarly, if I'm sitting on the floor, I can no longer get to my feet without turning round on all fours and pushing myself up with my hands. Can you?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ihj1DJObXv8

(2:23)
And some of them are youngsters too

Here's one of the better videos about sarcopenia imo, which explains how an elderly muscle works and regenerates which will be very interesting to those who want to know more. I think the WAY that we exercise has to be different as well. Squats are out of the question for me, but there are other exercises for the glutes which are just as good and less punishing on the joints (a subject for another time maybe )

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2G4arrouEk8

(5:31)

https://www.lancehitchings.com/the-l...oundations-vsl
Link to Lance's "Longevity Guide" - you have to give your email address

[JackMcThorn]

Posted by wondering (here)
Jack McThorn, thank you for posting Frost's entire poem, I didn't think to do it. It is one of my favorites ever.

When I saw what you wrote it took me back a bit because it too is one of my favourites ever and I hadn't visited it in some years until you mentioned it. I've always thought I've promises to keep. Cheers to you.

[RunningDeer]

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[Heart to heart]

It is funny how synchronicity knocks on your door

Last night on retiring a poem of terse verse came to me. My husband is 89 and suffers with angina. I have had a couple of bad bleeds due to high blood pressure!

It is titled “ Nearly Ninety”

Blood letting
Skin cracking
Heart racing
World breaking

Reg moaning
Chest paining
Breath gasping
Bed calling

Carolyn listening
Body weakening
Spirit strengthening
Soul gathering

Information coming
Stay loving
Keep creating
Forever Being.

There you have it, written with tongue in cheek!

[wondering]

Dear Carolyn, Words fail me. Thank you for this sharing, My heart opens to your heart and brings back memories...this is the depth of aging.