6 Finger (or toes) on Giants (and pygmies) or Personages

[Abondance]

In the early 1900s, a highly respected police commissioner began an investigation that would last more than 25 years.

It concerned the existence of a very particular system of geodesic lines, grouped in the form of a rose of the winds, which linked a series of places and cities throughout France and Europe by their toponymy and special characteristics, like the presence of a salt water source or a mountain surrounded by water.

The distances were intriguing and he eventually found their common point: they were determined by a common divisor, 18 km 518.
This is a measure equivalent to 100 Olympic stades, or the 6th of an earthly degree, for the geographical area that corresponds to the outskirts of the 45th degree of latitude. (the Alaisian system, at its center on the 47th degree).

1 stade or stadion = 600th part of a degree.

Here we find very interesting division by 6, both for the ancient Greeks and for those who determined the distribution of these particular sites on today’s French territory, from which it is not known when it can be traced.

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Abondance (here)



In the early 1900s, a highly respected police commissioner began an investigation that would last more than 25 years.

It concerned the existence of a very particular system of geodesic lines, grouped in the form of a rose of the winds, which linked a series of places and cities throughout France and Europe by their toponymy and special characteristics, like the presence of a salt water source or a mountain surrounded by water.

The distances were intriguing and he eventually found their common point: they were determined by a common divisor, 18 km 518.
This is a measure equivalent to 100 Olympic stades, or the 6th of an earthly degree, for the geographical area that corresponds to the outskirts of the 45th degree of latitude. (the Alaisian system, at its center on the 47th degree).

1 stade or stadion = 600th part of a degree.

Here we find very interesting division by 6, both for the ancient Greeks and for those who determined the distribution of these particular sites on today’s French territory, from which it is not known when it can be traced.

It seems clear to me, and thank you for your contribution, that the stadion measure was of the Attic or Ptolemaic version, especially since Eratosthenes was a Greek librarian in Alexandria, worked for the Ptolemaic Pharaohs, in the third century BC, which was their first timeline of reign. And yet, in order to stretch his calculations to fit the agenda that Greeks and not Sumerians first measured the circumference accurately, they use a whole slew of educated wishes to prop up their theory.
He was working backward from the result that he found in the library - which was from a Mesopotamian tablet made about a thousand years before he was born. That's why he can't show his work, although he did come up with some field calculations in the hopes of figuring out how they did it so much earlier than him. And while he was 84% accurate, they were 98.4%.

18 kilometers is what the early Norse used as well, followed later by the Danes and the Swedes, who modified it somewhat.

[Abondance]

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In the early 1900s, a highly respected police commissioner began an investigation that would last more than 25 years.

It concerned the existence of a very particular system of geodesic lines, grouped in the form of a rose of the winds, which linked a series of places and cities throughout France and Europe by their toponymy and special characteristics, like the presence of a salt water source or a mountain surrounded by water.

The distances were intriguing and he eventually found their common point: they were determined by a common divisor, 18 km 518.
This is a measure equivalent to 100 Olympic stades, or the 6th of an earthly degree, for the geographical area that corresponds to the outskirts of the 45th degree of latitude. (the Alaisian system, at its center on the 47th degree).

1 stade or stadion = 600th part of a degree.

Here we find very interesting division by 6, both for the ancient Greeks and for those who determined the distribution of these particular sites on today’s French territory, from which it is not known when it can be traced.

It seems clear to me, and thank you for your contribution, that the stadion measure was of the Attic or Ptolemaic version, especially since Eratosthenes was a Greek librarian in Alexandria, worked for the Ptolemaic Pharaohs, in the third century BC, which was their first timeline of reign. And yet, in order to stretch his calculations to fit the agenda that Greeks and not Sumerians first measured the circumference accurately, they use a whole slew of educated wishes to prop up their theory.
He was working backward from the result that he found in the library - which was from a Mesopotamian tablet made about a thousand years before he was born. That's why he can't show his work, although he did come up with some field calculations in the hopes of figuring out how they did it so much earlier than him. And while he was 84% accurate, they were 98.4%.

18 kilometers is what the early Norse used as well, followed later by the Danes and the Swedes, who modified it somewhat.

I am not surprised, and to be honest, this story of Xavier Guichard (whose origin he suspected was older than the Greeks) led me on strange and mythological paths leading to Sumer.

On the back of these journeys, I found that the Celtic Ogmios, who wore the skin of a lion like Hercules, traditionally considered as the founder of Alesia and father of Galates, ancestor of the Gauls, could correspond in Sumerian translation to "Ug Mus", which means Face of Lion.

This hero is actually the only one who has made the tour of the Mediterranean, and maybe there is behind this myth, a story of colonization or dissemination of a culture coming from Sumer itself...

[Jim_Duyer]

The Egyptian historian Manetho, who lived in the Ptolemaic Kingdom in the early third century BC, said that Thoth wrote 36,525 books. There are approximately 365.25 days in a year [the true value is something like 365.2425.] It takes approximately 365.25 days for the Earth to orbit the Sun — a solar year, according to NASA.

[Jim_Duyer]

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Posted by Abondance (here)



In the early 1900s, a highly respected police commissioner began an investigation that would last more than 25 years.

It concerned the existence of a very particular system of geodesic lines, grouped in the form of a rose of the winds, which linked a series of places and cities throughout France and Europe by their toponymy and special characteristics, like the presence of a salt water source or a mountain surrounded by water.

The distances were intriguing and he eventually found their common point: they were determined by a common divisor, 18 km 518.
This is a measure equivalent to 100 Olympic stades, or the 6th of an earthly degree, for the geographical area that corresponds to the outskirts of the 45th degree of latitude. (the Alaisian system, at its center on the 47th degree).

1 stade or stadion = 600th part of a degree.

Here we find very interesting division by 6, both for the ancient Greeks and for those who determined the distribution of these particular sites on today’s French territory, from which it is not known when it can be traced.

It seems clear to me, and thank you for your contribution, that the stadion measure was of the Attic or Ptolemaic version, especially since Eratosthenes was a Greek librarian in Alexandria, worked for the Ptolemaic Pharaohs, in the third century BC, which was their first timeline of reign. And yet, in order to stretch his calculations to fit the agenda that Greeks and not Sumerians first measured the circumference accurately, they use a whole slew of educated wishes to prop up their theory.
He was working backward from the result that he found in the library - which was from a Mesopotamian tablet made about a thousand years before he was born. That's why he can't show his work, although he did come up with some field calculations in the hopes of figuring out how they did it so much earlier than him. And while he was 84% accurate, they were 98.4%.

18 kilometers is what the early Norse used as well, followed later by the Danes and the Swedes, who modified it somewhat.

I am not surprised, and to be honest, this story of Xavier Guichard (whose origin he suspected was older than the Greeks) led me on strange and mythological paths leading to Sumer.

On the back of these journeys, I found that the Celtic Ogmios, who wore the skin of a lion like Hercules, traditionally considered as the founder of Alesia and father of Galates, ancestor of the Gauls, could correspond in Sumerian translation to "Ug Mus", which means Face of Lion.

This hero is actually the only one who has made the tour of the Mediterranean, and maybe there is behind this myth, a story of colonization or dissemination of a culture coming from Sumer itself...

Excellent reasoning, thank you. Yes, Ug means Lion, and Mus means appearance, face of. But Mus also indicates a serpent.

[Jim_Duyer]

Abondance - I'm one who is very interested in the early Gauls, Kelts (or Celts) and the sons of Odin.
It seems strange - the word you used - [ traditionally considered as the founder of Alesia ] since it is very
close, semantically, to the word that Odin used as his lands of origin. Which some archaeologists have posited as being in the areas northeast of the Black Sea.

[Inversion]

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JuGQG17rVYI

The image for that video came from Steve Quayle's book Longwalkers: Return of the Nephilim. The word Nephilim means giants or fallen ones in Hebrew. It's a small and short book that you can read in a day. I enjoyed it and was disappointed that it was so short when it could have been so much more. The fictional work was about giants being found and a sinister group awakening them. A medallion with jewels imbedded in it allowed the characters to teleport to ancient sites around the world by pushing on the jewels. The climax was a bunch of giants attacking the white house and the military team shooting their feet to stop them. I don't recall if copper bullets were mentioned in the book as something that's poisonous to them. It reminded me of the first Transformers movie and Eagle Eye with Shia LaBeouf being the main character in both. He played Padre Pio in 2022. My mother had a picture of him on the tree in the backyard. She was given a statue that she painted to resemble him.

Duncan Long

[Abondance]

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
Abondance - I'm one who is very interested in the early Gauls, Kelts (or Celts) and the sons of Odin.
It seems strange - the word you used - [ traditionally considered as the founder of Alesia ] since it is very
close, semantically, to the word that Odin used as his lands of origin. Which some archaeologists have posited as being in the areas northeast of the Black Sea.

I want to be sure to understand, you talk of the word "Alésia"?

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Abondance (here)

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
Abondance - I'm one who is very interested in the early Gauls, Kelts (or Celts) and the sons of Odin.
It seems strange - the word you used - [ traditionally considered as the founder of Alesia ] since it is very
close, semantically, to the word that Odin used as his lands of origin. Which some archaeologists have posited as being in the areas northeast of the Black Sea.

I want to be sure to understand, you talk of the word "Alésia"?

Yes - the origin of Odin was said to be eisa or aisia. I'll dig up my notes and double check this. Jim

[Abondance]

Yes - the origin of Odin was said to be eisa or aisia. I'll dig up my notes and double check this. Jim

Thank you very much. This information is of the greatest interest to me. The north-east of the Black Sea is crossed by the 47th parallel that I mentioned earlier, and Xavier Guichard never succeeded in elucidating the origin of the name Alesia, despite his knowledge of ancient languages.

Geographically, the last milestones he found in Europe must be in Austria, it seems to me.

One of the great difficulties is the transformation or change of place names over time. I did not even manage to find some places he cited in 1936 and which have disappeared today (the extension of cities, wars, have already profoundly changed the toponymy of places). But we still have clear indicators of recognition: the presence of saline source and water courses that have changed little...

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Abondance (here)

Yes - the origin of Odin was said to be eisa or aisia. I'll dig up my notes and double check this. Jim

Thank you very much. This information is of the greatest interest to me. The north-east of the Black Sea is crossed by the 47th parallel that I mentioned earlier, and Xavier Guichard never succeeded in elucidating the origin of the name Alesia, despite his knowledge of ancient languages.

Geographically, the last milestones he found in Europe must be in Austria, it seems to me.

One of the great difficulties is the transformation or change of place names over time. I did not even manage to find some places he cited in 1936 and which have disappeared today (the extension of cities, wars, have already profoundly changed the toponymy of places). But we still have clear indicators of recognition: the presence of saline source and water courses that have changed little...

I agree fully. Traditional scholars tell us that it was caled Asir or Aesir, and then offer no etymology beyond what an educated wish might furnish. The report that I recall claimed a different name.
In Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Phoenician, Assyrian, Hittite, and probably some other languages, the prefix A would have been represented by an apostrophe ('). The ir ending could indicate possession as well, so we need to work with the root. I apologize for not having this at my fingertips but I am just finishing up some of my most important work to date. And I also, after much encouragement from the kindly folks here, finally, switched to Linux. I'm using Linux Mint (tried four others but no go for me) and I wish I had done it years earlier.

I will offer this since I don't have time to publish it and probably never will, and it pertains to the Gauls.
There was a group of Gauls who left for Anatolia (Turkey), to settle there in the western coast. They were nearly immediately attacked by the Greeks. This was about 285 BC give or take a few years. Of course they held their ground, but a company of them left for Alexandria, and became guards. Interestingly, they guarded the Library.
After a year the Pharaoh got suspicious and checked into it - they had been pouring over old maps and drawings from the earliest explorations of the Phoenicians.

They were banished to an island off the coast of Alexandria, and the history records stop there. BUT. i managed to trace them to Indonesia, with stops along the way, simply by pouring over the reports of foreigners that still exist. It seems they stole a ship and left with some of the records.

Fast forward to the caves on the western shore of Australia. Discovered there were paintings done in an unusual pattern - the beings look much like aliens wearing diving helmets, and the locals say that they did not make them, that white people with reddish and blond hair did. If you examine the markings at Glozel in France, they are identical to the writing above those art works. A very friendly German scholar shared some of his work with me, and I was able to translate the markings - they speak, indeed, of not only this voyage but of another to the coast of a "new" lands.
Fast forward to the Western Lands near Utah. Paintings on the cliffs there are of a sailing ship, very crude but accurate, and the same markings! Apparently they landed somewhere in Baja and proceeded inland. This would still be about 260 BC or so. I have better datings but not off the top of my head.

So I do believe that some of the Kelts of Gaul discovered both Australia and the USA prior to 250 BC.
I wrote most of a book about it, but I have so much to do that I know it will never get finished. But it is just one example of the skills of our early ancestors. I once had an archaeologist in England who asked me why I hated the Romans so - he admitted that he did not think them much of anything either, but wished to know my reasoning. I told him that Julius Caesars boast of killing (slaughtering) a million Gauls - men, women and children, was all that it took for me.

So whenever possible I research those folks and try to offer their merits, which were admirable.

I just re-translated parts of the Book of Daniel in the original Aramaic, where he claims that there will be a Certain One, who will be returning, to resurrect, and that a completely new book will be written concerning his wisdom (NT), and that he will be the foundation or the base, of the fish. So yes, that's only a small slice but you can see the importance to many. Why I had to be the one to uncover this I do not know - I'm not particularly religious.

Keep the faith and best of luck. Back to work now.

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Abondance (here)

Yes - the origin of Odin was said to be eisa or aisia. I'll dig up my notes and double check this. Jim

Thank you very much. This information is of the greatest interest to me. The north-east of the Black Sea is crossed by the 47th parallel that I mentioned earlier, and Xavier Guichard never succeeded in elucidating the origin of the name Alesia, despite his knowledge of ancient languages.

Geographically, the last milestones he found in Europe must be in Austria, it seems to me.

One of the great difficulties is the transformation or change of place names over time. I did not even manage to find some places he cited in 1936 and which have disappeared today (the extension of cities, wars, have already profoundly changed the toponymy of places). But we still have clear indicators of recognition: the presence of saline source and water courses that have changed little...

[the north-east of the Black Sea is crossed by the 47th parallel that I mentioned earlier] Speaking of which, if you happen to read the Book of Enoch, he speaks of being taken into the skies by angels or gods. But the place to which he returns afterwards is given in a puzzle to solve - he mentions the hours of daylight. We can safely compute that figure and it resolves to the 47th parallel as well. Since this is beyond the known boundaries of any Hebrew tribe, I found it curious, and perhaps it is meant to tie things together in a way. Jim

[Abondance]

Thank you very much, Jim. Fortunately you are not my neighbour, I would have certainly harass you every week!

But I do not want to take up too much of your time and I would have liked to give you a little more of this book, but more than 500 pages, a multitude of cards and hundreds of names are hardly summed up here.

I will give you some of the milestones, derived from this name, just to taste the variations, across countries and history...

Alaise, Alesia, Alisii, Alisios, Aleso, Alisum, Alicia, Aloesa, Alixia, Alisanu, Aluze, Alais, Alet, Alzonne, Elzen, Lizy, Aizy, Leysin, , Alijo, Alessano, Alesanco, Alyssos,Alisius, Eleusis,Elusa, Elusio...
And this short passage:

"Just as the name of place Alesia is not especially Gaulish, the name of Eleusis is not especially Greek since it was previously found that if four Greek localities, Alyssos, Alaesium, Alesiae, Alyzia had names derived from "Alesia", three Gallic localities, Elusa, Elusio, Eleusis, bore names derived from or closely related to Eleusis."


If the original Alesia is prior to the Greek Eleusis (because it is only a milestone far from the center), then I let you guess the seniority...

I will follow the 47th parallel.

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Abondance (here)
Thank you very much, Jim. Fortunately you are not my neighbour, I would have certainly harass you every week!

But I do not want to take up too much of your time and I would have liked to give you a little more of this book, but more than 500 pages, a multitude of cards and hundreds of names are hardly summed up here.

I will give you some of the milestones, derived from this name, just to taste the variations, across countries and history...

Alaise, Alesia, Alisii, Alisios, Aleso, Alisum, Alicia, Aloesa, Alixia, Alisanu, Aluze, Alais, Alet, Alzonne, Elzen, Lizy, Aizy, Leysin, , Alijo, Alessano, Alesanco, Alyssos,Alisius, Eleusis,Elusa, Elusio...
And this short passage:

"Just as the name of place Alesia is not especially Gaulish, the name of Eleusis is not especially Greek since it was previously found that if four Greek localities, Alyssos, Alaesium, Alesiae, Alyzia had names derived from "Alesia", three Gallic localities, Elusa, Elusio, Eleusis, bore names derived from or closely related to Eleusis."


If the original Alesia is prior to the Greek Eleusis (because it is only a milestone far from the center), then I let you guess the seniority...

I will follow the 47th parallel.

Well, if you serve coffee I would certainly drop by as a neighbor.
It's not that my work is that important, it's just that I have so much to do and not an infinite amount of time, unfortunately.

I'm going to put those words on the wall near my desk, so that if/when I run across any of them I can help follow this lead. I imagine that we might share a love for old maps? Something about them - just can't seem to pass one up when I run across it.

My personal theory is that one third of mankind in its Cro-Magnon form originated from a contribution of DNA from a group that inhabited the North Polar region, more than 12,000 years ago and probably more than 50,000 years ago. They were tall and very knowledgeable. Perhaps even Atlantis related if not an outpost.

So, to my astonishment, I uncovered an artifact that has been misread by our archaeologists. It's actually a map, certainly dated traditionally to more than 4500 years ago, but due to the topographical features on it, such as huge lakes in the center of Greenland, it is actually much, much older. And it features all of the land masses in their correct positions, and all of the entrances-exits in their correct longitude and latitude.

It's been peer reviewed by three different groups and is very solid. So after I finish the one I am now concluding, this will be next.

I'll check back as often as possible and if you have a specific topic of interest or just wish to pass something on - just drop me a PM - I get notification of those via email and read them right away. Good luck Gentle Lady. Jim

[Abondance]

Good luck kind sir. Jim

Thank you Jim, but I'm a woman...

I'll be glad to read your work, when available.