Trump or Harris: Who Will Win?

[Mike Gorman]

Thank you for your kind words TinTin, I am simply calling it as I see it, these are strange times (more than 'interesting' as in the Chinese curse) many of us have sympatico thoughts I think!

[grapevine]

Although wishful thinking, I'm calling it for Trump although very aware that, like the 2016 Brexit Referendum in the UK, whether he wins or loses "there may be trouble ahead". What really alarms me, however, is voters' reasoning; given the current living conditions of the working class in America, worsening daily, how could the Democrats possibly be voted in again, illegals or no? Insanity would prevail, But then I thought that about the recent UK election, and look how that turned out . . . If the Democrats DO get in again, I think that's the end for all of us, and by that I mean serious recession and hardship with the rise of BRICS. Putin will show us no mercy, and why should he?

So call me an optimist but I'm hoping for a Trump win because of the (positive) knock-on effect on the UK govt, the EU and hopefully dwindling influence from the damned WEF, WHO, NATO etc. I can but hope.

COME ON MR TRUMP - GIVE IT SOME WELLIE !!

[thepainterdoug]

im keeping it simple. ill take a repeat of the 4 years Trump was in office across the board.Trump is nothing like the person the press presents him as which is a good deal of why some women hate him. Bill Clinton gave more reason for women to hate him, yet its Trump they hate. Its alll about the MSM
The bought and paid for MSM mockingbird media can shape any story or image anyway it wants and the average person who eats it up is no different than the person who eats fast food and soda. Its fun and easy easy to buy that Trump stinks , hes rich and handsome. However, Trump also is a showman and has fed into alot of it himself as well.

My friend and i have seen him often at his Bed minister golf course. Everyone loves him, he cares for everyone and he spent extra time with me on my 70 bday congratulating me wishing me well.
But besides all that, I personally feel you must be insane to believe that Harris, as part of the corrupt dems dog and pony show, is fit for the Presidency of the USA. Harris voters in my mind are simply Trump haters or special interest voters.

[SilentFeathers]

When an election is mainly based on lies, propaganda, fraud, hurt feelings, and petty emotions, etc., surviving on bread and water alone (if you can afford bread) or even the threat of war, enemy invasion, and nuclear annihilation becomes quite irrelevant for many.

I think Trump will win but the win will be taken away from him either through fraudulent recounts or ridiculous lawsuits. Either way I predict that Trump will not be certified and Kamala will be installed as President in January.

This will stir up the masses and possibly cause the violent response or civil war that they are seeking.

[thepainterdoug]

Silent Feathers/ quite possiblly the outcome. Rather chilling. What does a civil war look like? who wears the uniform of a left or right? i dont see how anyone will discern anyone or anything.
It has to be stopped, unless the agenda is as the Georgia guide stones wanted. I just cant wrap my head around all and so I will stay with a simpler conclusion. Trump will win and after much political chaos, will be President, unless of course, he already is? 45-47

[Bassplayer1]

I think that whichever one is keen and compliant with supporting Israel will be the one installed.

Trump has made all sorts of statements of support for Israel - not to mention Robert Kennedy Jr's gung-ho attitude.

No doubt Kamala will do as she's told too but I think she is ever so slightly less enthusiastic compared to Trump (and this is not me being favorable to her).

He may well 'win.'

The Democrats make me feel ill but Trump has also sickened me with his Pro Israel attitude.

I'm worried for Lebanon and Iran too.

[Mark]

I think Trump will win. He has made massive inroads with black and Hispanic men who may feel in some ways that their primary interest may be served by the dems but who are totally disenchanted with the corruption of the dem party machinery as well as what is left of the civil rights movement. The influx of the undocumented into urban areas and the economic support they receive while white, black and brown Americans continue to flounder is an in-your-face FU. While this influx serves the purpose in the USA and Europe of adding working age populations in countries where the demographic transition has le to indigenous populations growing smaller, resulting in a smaller tax base and nobody to do the jobs required to keep society running, the great replacement theory has some grounding in demographic fact and has been predicted for at least 50 years.

We just happen to be “lucky” enough to live in the times when it is happening. The nativist vs globalist politics are par the course and a necessary part of the shift. And this is all just the politics of it. The deeper energetic shift is remorseless and the world will continue to shift in every way. Even faster, now. And more catastrophically.

[mizo]

Looking from afar it's absurd that a huge country with a population close to 345 million that these two are the best nominees that they can come up with...

Voting for 'em only encourages the

If I had to vote for one of them ( perpetuating a broken system) it would be Trump as he 'feels' lesser of the two evils and occasionally makes me laugh - though Operation Warp Speed is still unforgivable.

[Mari]

I think trump will win. Anyone who's survived a relentless media onslaught from 2016 to today and dodged 2 assassination attempts (that we know of) the 1st one by a hair's breath- is surely 'protected' in some way and destined for greater things? I'd like to think that something has his back in this.

[ExomatrixTV]

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[mountain_jim]

feels to me like this also belongs here

https://x.com/clif_high/status/1852424199425646698

How's everyone doing? Feelin' it? That's the unreleased building emotional tension. The normies in my area are wound up so tight that they can't even fart. It just comes out as a high pitched whistle.

All the dogs in the area are really confused.

— clif is antiselenite (@clif_high) November 1, 2024

[Abondance]

I hate to say it, but there will be no winner here. The old world is going away and falling apart. The US is at the end of the road, as is Europe.
I would like to say that on November 6, it will be "Breakfast in America" with Super Trump, and that with RFK it will be a new beginning and a great cleaning of the putrid marsh.
But quite frankly, I don’t think it will be possible under one indivisible starry banner. There will be secessions.

No one can force people who hate each other so much to live together, even if they are brothers.

The European Union will also become fragmented, as will NATO. They are evil and unhappy unions that must stop for the good of the peoples.
If humans are to unite, it will be on other bases, which I hope are more spiritual and maybe in realizing that "heyyy, they're a lot of people in this universe!"

We don't put new wine in old wineskins.

We may be nostalgic for the good old days, but they will not return and perhaps in the end, they were dust in front of the immensity that awaits us.

The world is pierced
The Universe can enter...

[Kryztian]

For whatever it is worth, here is the latest map from electoral-vote.com.



The maps is updated daily and reflects only the most recent poll in each state. Up until about a week ago, it showed Kamala consistently leading since about the time of the Democratic convention. especially when Pennsylvannia flipped to "red" ( the latest poll in PA has Trump at 49% and Kamala at 48%, not much of a margin.) The states that tend to flip back between barely red and barely blue: Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Georgia. Pennsylvannia was consistently light blue but that just changed. Somehow I suspect that Michigan might end up a red state even though polls have consistently give Kamala a thin majority.

In 2020, the night before the election it showed Biden winning in a landslide, 368 to 170 electoral votes. The final result however, was 306 to 232 votes. There were a lot of Trump votes that were not reflected in the earlier polls. If that is the case this year as well, than Trump should do much better than the above map shows and win in a landslide.

[apokalypse]

I have been thinking about RFK jr...why trump? Trump put rjf in his administration and the factor is He against pharma and slot of things...tbtb won't let that happen if it's true..sound too good to be true.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by apokalypse (here)
I have been thinking about RFK jr...why trump? Trump put rjf in his administration and the factor is He against pharma and slot of things...tbtb won't let that happen if it's true..sound too good to be true.

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1852556584217436518


The Vigilant Fox 🦊

@VigilantFox
Beautiful moment from RFK Jr.

“I started working on this issue [chronic disease] 19 years ago. And for 19 years... I have said a prayer to God to put me in a position where I could end the chronic disease epidemic. And on August 23rd of this year, God sent me Donald J. Trump.

“Donald Trump said to me in Milwaukee—we met for two and a half hours—and he said, ‘I want you to join my campaign and unify our efforts. I’m going to end the foreign wars, the addiction to war, and the $200 billion that we sent to Ukraine; we’re going to spend it here in the United States.’

“He told me, ‘We’re going to end the censorship, we’re going to end the surveillance, we’re going to end the weaponization of our enforcement agencies against the American people.’ He knew that my uncle, Ted Kennedy, wrote Title IX to make sure that women’s sports are protected in schools.

“And he said, ‘We’re going to end the efforts of the Democratic Party, the war they’re making on women’s sports in schools.’ He said, ‘We’re going to end the chronic disease epidemic, and we are going to make America healthy again.’”

[Arcturian108]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
For whatever it is worth, here is the latest map from electoral-vote.com.



The maps is updated daily and reflects only the most recent poll in each state. Up until about a week ago, it showed Kamala consistently leading since about the time of the Democratic convention. especially when Pennsylvannia flipped to "red" ( the latest poll in PA has Trump at 49% and Kamala at 48%, not much of a margin.) The states that tend to flip back between barely red and barely blue: Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Georgia. Pennsylvannia was consistently light blue but that just changed. Somehow I suspect that Michigan might end up a red state even though polls have consistently give Kamala a thin majority.

In 2020, the night before the election it showed Biden winning in a landslide, 368 to 170 electoral votes. The final result however, was 306 to 232 votes. There were a lot of Trump votes that were not reflected in the earlier polls. If that is the case this year as well, than Trump should do much better than the above map shows and win in a landslide.

I went to the electoral-vote.com website and studied their maps just now. Then I took a reader survey for that site, and noticed a considerable Democrat bias in their questions. So I don't trust their collective poll choices at this point.

[Kryztian]

Posted by Arcturian108 (here)

Posted by Kryztian (here)
For whatever it is worth, here is the latest map from electoral-vote.com.

I went to the electoral-vote.com website and studied their maps just now. Then I took a reader survey for that site, and noticed a considerable Democrat bias in their questions. So I don't trust their collective poll choices at this point.

I have been following this site I think since 2008. The person who turned me on to it was Republican and I was a Democrat at that time. We both agreed that the site seemed informative and did not reflect any bias. At that time, I believe that it was basically one person managing this site and he lived in the Netherlands. I have no idea if that is still the same situation or not.

However, a few months ago, I looked at this site and read some of the web authors notes, and there definitely seemed to be an anti-Trump bias (not the same as anti-Republican bias.) I usually don't read the notes, commentary and news so I don't have more thoughts that. Nevertheless, I think these maps involve collecting data and crunching numbers and turning it into this map, and I think they do a reliable accurate job. One might questions their methodology, since the color of the state only reflect the one most recent poll, instead of take several of the most recent polls and averaging the numbers together. The method they use causes the states colors to change back and forth between red and blue more frequently.

I took the poll and did not see any problem or left/right bias with the questions. The only question that bothered me was the one that asked who I want to win the election - they only offered two options, however, there are more that two people running for President.

[Ewan]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

I’m going to end the foreign wars, the addiction to war, and the $200 billion that we sent to Ukraine; (we’re going to spend it here in the United States).’

‘We’re going to end the censorship, we’re going to end the surveillance, we’re going to end the weaponization of our enforcement agencies against the American people.’
‘We’re going to end the efforts of the Democratic Party, the war they’re making on women’s sports in schools.
‘We’re going to end the chronic disease epidemic, and we are going to make America healthy again.

History might suggest he is a dead man walking.

If he truly intends all that may he get all the protection he needs.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Ewan (here)

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

I’m going to end the foreign wars, the addiction to war, and the $200 billion that we sent to Ukraine; (we’re going to spend it here in the United States).’

‘We’re going to end the censorship, we’re going to end the surveillance, we’re going to end the weaponization of our enforcement agencies against the American people.’
‘We’re going to end the efforts of the Democratic Party, the war they’re making on women’s sports in schools.
‘We’re going to end the chronic disease epidemic, and we are going to make America healthy again.

History might suggest he is a dead man walking.

If he truly intends all that may he get all the protection he needs.

And to add to that list, the sealing of the wide open border and the deportation of all genuine illegals.

What feels very encouraging is that even if Trump were to somehow disappear from the presidency once elected, Vance, Tulsi, RFK Jr, Vivek and quite a few others would be 100% committed to carry through on all these crucially important election pledges.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Ewan (here)

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

I’m going to end the foreign wars, the addiction to war, and the $200 billion that we sent to Ukraine; (we’re going to spend it here in the United States).’

‘We’re going to end the censorship, we’re going to end the surveillance, we’re going to end the weaponization of our enforcement agencies against the American people.’
‘We’re going to end the efforts of the Democratic Party, the war they’re making on women’s sports in schools.
‘We’re going to end the chronic disease epidemic, and we are going to make America healthy again.

History might suggest he is a dead man walking.

If he truly intends all that may he get all the protection he needs.

And to add to that list, the sealing of the wide open border and the deportation of all genuine illegals.

What feels very encouraging is that even if Trump were to somehow disappear from the presidency once elected, Vance, Tulsi, RFK Jr, Vivek and quite a few others would be 100% committed to carry through on all these crucially important election pledges.

This is another reason I think there's no way they are going to allow him to take office. The democrats are already talking about not certifying the election if he wins. These demonic psychopaths are hell bent on stopping him from taking office.

It's going to be quite interesting to see how all this plays out no matter what happens. I see huge problems either way.