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    Arrow *ast* Donald Trump and Kamala Harris

    I opted for a draw with the Yiking, not the traditional method, but with the 64 Oracle cards of "Lunaea Weatherstone"!

    Donald Trump , hexagram "19", the Rapprochement, the Approach of what is strong
    Kamala Harris , hexagram “30”, Clarity, attachment, Fire



    With Donald Trump and hexagram "19" that can be compared to the Sun in the Tarot of Marseille, speaks of success, representation the power of a function, the force of the "Yang" which is positioned at the bottom tries to rise upwards. There is however a risk with the ascension to power, it is in the 8th month "August" (because after the formalities the president of the USA begins these functions in January), that there is an exhaustion of the joys of power!

    The people who would represent the essential function of the government are being monitored from above and over these 8 months of reprieve this Yang force will continue throughout this period to gain ground upwards. Hexagram does not say whether this success is in the service or to the detriment of the people.

    In its inverse Hexagram becomes the "20" , the View in the Distance, it is to become aware of the imperatives and to want to serve as a model and respond to the need of one's people?, because the inferiors are on the lookout for the promises that will have to be fulfilled. We can see there a compensation which would allow softening the sentence of the first hexagram.



    With Kamala Harry and hexagram "30" it is also the repetition of the same trigram of the same name, which means hexagram is the same in reverse. Fire takes on shapes depending on the environment where it is, which can mean that there is a part of malleability. There is attachment to what is attached and it is through this link that the flames rise upwards. This requires a certain docility to achieve the desired goal. Which means to exist we rely on something, from which we draw life and light, without which the fire would have no reason to exist.

    The critical season with "Fire" is spring which seems unfavorable. It is said "to care for the cow brings health", because this animal represents the docility that one must adopt by one's behavior as adhering to something particular to be part of the circle.

    Donald Trump was born on June 14, 1946, under hexagram 61, the Inner Truth , requires deep sincerity, gentleness and serenity and would be the basis of mutual trust and can even influence pigs and fish, the least spiritual animals...

    Kamala Harris was born on October 20, 1964, under hexagram 64 Before Fulfillment , asking to overcome great difficulties so that everything ends well. Success will come provided that one acts with attention and prudence, like a fox crossing a frozen lake…

    Trump was still born under Chinese Astro of the Barking Dog, in Mayan Astro the Blue Hand Kin, the Enchanted Wave the Red Serpent and a Yellow Seed year and Harris of the Dragon who throws flames and the Red Serpent Kin, the Enchanted Wave Yellow Sun and a Blue Storm year, we can say that there is a lot of response from one to the other in this presidential campaign from what we can see from the excerpts that are broadcast!

    Trump in these progressions is in a waxing sextile with the Sun in Virgo and the Moon in Scorpio, transiting Jupiter on his natal North Node trine natal Mars which itself in conjunction natal Jupiter in Libra could be an indication of success?

    Harris in these progressions in decreasing phase, the Moon in Cancer which will have received Mars in transit last days of September and the first of October and the Sun in Sagittarius conjunction the South Node and Mercury retro the latter in sextile Saturn could give the advantage to Trump as it was for Biden in 2020?, Venus is square Saturn

    Remember in 2016, Trump beat his opponent Hillary Clinton, can we think that he will do it again in 2024 with Kamala Harris?

    The common point Trump and Harris were both born during a Full Moon with the particularity of Trump under a Total Lunar Eclipse

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    Arrow Re: Astro with Donald Trump and Kamala Harry

    Points of convergence and divergence between Trump and Harris



    The result of the American campaign will be known on November 5 under a crescent Moon which is rather of masculine/Yang energy unlike the Full Moon phase of feminine/Yin origin!

    This November 5th there will be a trine between the Sun/Scorpio and Saturn retro/Pisces

    Trump, has a semi-sextile between the Sun/Gemini and Saturn in Cancer
    Harris, has a trine between the Sun/Libra and Saturn/Aquarius
    Saturn in astrology symbolizes political power, we can say that Trump would have an advantage over Harris and that there has never been a female president of the USA.

    Between 2016 when Hillary Clinton ran against Donald Trump, we were under a Moon/Neptune conjunction square Saturn and 2024 between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump a Moon/Venus conjunction square Neptune! Giving Trump an advantage?

    Let's see if the rose... between synastry the comparison of the two themes

    First of all, Trump and Harris were born under a Full Moon (first point in common)

    Trump's Sun/Gemini sextile Harris' Moon/Aries
    Harris' Sun/Libra sextile Trump's Moon/Sagittarius
    The two Suns in air signs and the two Moons in fire signs and in mutual aspect!
    That alone makes the compatibility between the two very real.

    The two Mars in conjunction in the sign of Leo form a reciprocal trine with the two moons that of Trump/Sagittarius and that of Harris/Aries and a sextile with the two Suns Mars/Trump and the Sun/Harris, Mars/Harris and the Sun/Trump, ideal as a collaborator
    The two Mercurys in water signs Cancer/Trump and Scorpio/Harris a sensitivity that can be agreed, you really have to put some good will into it because the trine is forming
    We will have noticed that the luminaries the Sun and the Moon with Mars, a trio which would allow to work together in the same fight

    The divergences are the two Moons mutually in square respectively with the two Venuses which are the cause of this mutual incomprehension of the moods of one to the other. We can speak of one-way sympathy, it is an aspect which allows to relive the mutual experience with the mother of each in the eyes of the other and this is what we can see in this campaign of the American elections which puts in situation a part of unconscious life unpacked on the public highway!

    Trump's Saturn in conjunction Venus is impacted and in double square to both Harris' Moon and Sun, which puts into context behaviors of weaknesses of Harris' skills in her identity and femininity! We find there the Mars/Trump opposition Saturn/Harris to discredit these skills in political matters?



    Now let us look at the composite which is the theme of the relationship

    In this composite we obviously find a "Full Moon, the Sun is in the company of Mars and Venus as well as Pluto encircled by the two Mars in Leo, that is to say the power of the relationship in its passion, but also of tension. A meeting exposed in the election campaign where Uranus in transit presents itself in double square of this Full Moon, it is almost live a political domestic scene, an American show!, especially in the composite Neptune is the exit door of the Full Moon and in conjunction with the Sun of Kamala, she must ask herself the question between living a dream and reality which would be better?, the Moon of the Composite in conjunction with Saturn retro of Kamala, it is indeed reality she had her confirmation!



    About the advanced composite that sets the record straight!

    There is an opposition of Venus and Saturn, knowing that in Trump (has a conjunction in the natal) can speak of the age difference between Trump and Harris which is 18 years, but also an incompatibility by divergences not having the same objectives in the practice of politics, we can still say not being on the same wavelength, so necessarily cannot agree on the program of one to the other. Even if the Moon makes the bridge and serves as a way out of this major opposition. Are Trump and Harris aware of the harm they can do to their political counterparts? Wouldn't they tend to say behind the scenes not to shoot the ambulance too much? , the meaning of which is to say "to go after a weakened person" to bounce back on the two squares in synastry between the two moons and the two respective Venuses. Or even, to tell him, you're going a little too hard on this one...

    In any case, the advanced composite which shows as a whole the relationship as it is today, is far from being rosy, but rather in the red and black of Jeanne Mas!

    We find the Sun strolling in Scorpio off the coast of Kamala's Mercury and double square of the conjunction of Jupiter and Uranus, the disunion is very present especially since Juno the goddess of Unions arrives in conjunction with the Sun and will give her agreement soon at the time of the results. Because the break must be made after a campaign where we send reprimands on our adversary, even if at the beginning we could think by the synastry that there were chances of collaboration, that is to say without the study of the composite, the synastry remains a very complex study!

    We still find the Moon in the progressed composite in Virgo which arrives on the trio of Kamala Uranus/Pluto/Mars, that is to say it does not let itself be done in this balance of power which opposes them politically speaking! Especially this Moon encircled by Pluto and Mars in the progressed composite, clearly shows the balance of power which is present during this entire campaign since Biden withdrew!

    In Trump, he has a decreasing square between Mercury and Neptune, in Harris a large decreasing conjunction and in the progressed composite a conjunction of Mercury and Neptune which makes Trump's part unleash itself in a sometimes irrational virulence echoing in Harris sending him by ricochet and his malevolence and why not the bickering of a couple of failed lovers??. We must admit these points of contact in the synastry of a risky accounting having demonstrated these orchestrated discordances of a face to face put into play in a fight (remember the strength of their two Mars in conjunction in Leo) A couple in full crisis whose existential motive is to win to the detriment of their adversary.

    Is America ready to put a "woman" on the throne of president???, it is in this sense that Trump has a head start on Harris !

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    Arrow Re: *ast* Donald Trump and Kamala Harris



    This is the trigger I had recently for the choice of the official day of voting in the USA.

    To begin with, the first presidential election in America was on January 7, 1789 (the year of the French Revolution) and it was a Wednesday, George Washington was pulled out of the hat by the " Grand Electors " because elections in the USA are indirect. Even if today Americans vote in November, the "Grand Electors 538" will give the final result in December

    This choice of the day is not a coincidence and has been in place since 1845, because before this date the vote to choose the president was on a Wednesday in December and not in November, because it was the "Grand Electors" who voted for the president. Then the rules changed from 1792. The electors vote in November and the "Grand Electors in December" and which will take place in 2024, on December 17. The "Grand Electors" will have the mission of voting for the winner, who will have to obtain 270 votes from the Grand Electors!

    Today we find a conjunction of the Moon and Mars retro, in the axis of opposition Pluto in conjunction Ceres. We can say that the tension will be in the extremes this day, certainly a very close result. The Sun in Sagittarius in conjunction with the Moon of Trump.

    Note, Mercury retrograde phase from November 26 22° to December 15 at 6° Sagittarius, December 17, 2024 still in its stationary phase, just like December 19, 2016 (Mars was in opposition to the Moon), when Trump was elected by the Electoral College, which was not the case on December 14, 2020 Mercury was direct and Mars in opposition to Venus, the day of a New Moon in conjunction Mercury/Sun and Biden's Venus.

    In any case, the official Elections in America have been for 180 years a " Tuesday " day of Mars of masculine essence and the decision of the "Great Electors" will be a "Tuesday" in December! Obviously the position of Mars should alert us, being in opposition to Pluto the psychic vigilante with a final decision under a Mercury retrograde in conjunction with the Moon concerning in this context (the position of the Great Electors), when we know that the two Mars of Trump and Harris are in conjunction in Leo. Which means, a delayed return of Mars for the two competitors will happen by ricochet between the last days of May and the first half of June.

    This Mars which decides to undertake its retrograde phase between December 2024 and February 2025, can it have an impact on the final decision of the “Great Electors”???

    1997, Mars retrograde (between February and April) occurred after Bill Clinton's inauguration in January
    (*) 1992/1993 , Mars retro in Cancer between November and March under Bill Clinton
    (*) 1960/1961 , Mars retro in Cancer between November and February under John Fitzgerald Kennedy then died in November 1963!
    (*) The USA Sun of the Independence chart is at 13° Cancer and Mars retro has passed three times!

    In conclusion, Mars ruler of the official Elections even if indirect, in retrograde phase between 6° Leo and 17° Cancer, this time it is no longer the Sun of the USA that is hit but the position of Mercury retrograde at 24° Cancer as well as the North Node at 6° Leo. We can say that America is a major turning point in its history during the retrograde phase of Mars from December 6 to February 24, knowing that the retrograde loop began on October 5, 2024 at 17° Cancer and ends on May 2, 2025!

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