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    Interesting article on “the Burning Platform”. It’s quite long, so I’m just posting the beginning of it below, with the link.
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    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2...real-election/

    November 11, 2024

    SORRY, 2024 WAS NOT A REAL ELECTION

    I hate to burst the bubble of the pro-Trumpers, but Anglin here nails it. The only reason that the voting had consequences this time and that Trump was elected is because the System wanted Trump to become President. That fact should give you pause to ask – why? What does the System have in store for us after Trump throws us some bones? For whom will he really work?

    Very few people are going to be able to grasp this thing that happened on Tuesday. It’s unfortunate, but the reality is that this is something that is not going to fit into many people’s brains. Most people are just happy Trump won, and don’t want to think too much about why the election fraud machine was turned off.

    In short, the people with the ability to commit massive election fraud declined to push the button and commit that fraud because the people with that ability wanted the same candidate as the masses of voters.

    I will do my best to explain the long story here.

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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Interesting article on “the Burning Platform”. It’s quite long, so I’m just posting the beginning of it below, with the link.
    _____________________________

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2...real-election/

    November 11, 2024

    SORRY, 2024 WAS NOT A REAL ELECTION

    I hate to burst the bubble of the pro-Trumpers, but Anglin here nails it. The only reason that the voting had consequences this time and that Trump was elected is because the System wanted Trump to become President. That fact should give you pause to ask – why? What does the System have in store for us after Trump throws us some bones? For whom will he really work?

    Very few people are going to be able to grasp this thing that happened on Tuesday. It’s unfortunate, but the reality is that this is something that is not going to fit into many people’s brains. Most people are just happy Trump won, and don’t want to think too much about why the election fraud machine was turned off.

    In short, the people with the ability to commit massive election fraud declined to push the button and commit that fraud because the people with that ability wanted the same candidate as the masses of voters.

    I will do my best to explain the long story here.
    I’ve not read the article, but I’m going to say this anyway based upon your brief summary in your post: It was a real election because 1) there were “masses of voters” who did vote for Trump and 2) the “election fraud machine was turned off” thereby allowing the masses of voters who voted for Trump to actually be counted. To me that is a real election, as real as it can get these days when the election fraud machine is turned off.

    The implication of your post re the premise of the article is that a real election involves massive fraud, not massive voter turnout where the votes are actually counted. I do not accept that premise as constituting a real election in the democratic sense.

    It is a reality that elections are stolen. But it is also a reality that in 2024 they did not engage in massive stealing because they knew they would fail. The election turnout for Trump was too big to steal this time around.

    In 2024 the “will” of the vast majority of the people who voted, and whose votes were counted, prevailed. That is a real election in my book. Very real.

    Edit: Having reread your post and having now skimmed the article I realize that your post was quoting from the article. My apology for missing that.
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    Just speculating (and not an IP protocol and voting machine expert)

    There was likely enough internet data packet evidence in 2020 of how the machines were manipulated, and from where, and IP addresses of voting machine TCP/IP gateways or address blocks in swing states this time may have been knowable to build packet-blocking defenses around.

    Allowing a 'military intelligence or other white hat group' to block any such network traffic when spotted, preventing the wholesale flipping of votes that way.

    I recall supposed evidence of this data flow detailed in 2020, but was not smart enough to know if it was valid.

    Now plan D for this supposed 'system' could be to crash the economy to blame Trump, or worse yet still false-flag kill him and try and start a civil war.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I however choose to remain optimistic concerning an ongoing awakening and corruption cleanup, and not wallow in these dire predictions or explanations.

    The Trump win has already solidified my precarious retirement situation (after 45 years of mostly corporate servitude) with a $20,000 rise in the price of bitcoin.

    I recall someone here on Avalon stated remote viewers had seen the crash to zero of BTC and dire result for Michael Saylor, I recall when I asked the time for that was either last year or this year.

    Thank the stars I did not listen to that, and have already sold enough to pay off my investments there. I credit Trump's win for that.
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    https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1857060611735064828



    Sen. John Fetterman says President Donald Trump tapping Rep. Matt Gaetz for Attorney General is “god tier level trolling.”

    — Tony Seruga (@TonySeruga) November 14, 2024










    above a mod of this often-used meme graphic



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    Bill predicted for this year that Elon would get more involved in politics - talk about a home-run

    https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1856885221276184907




    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1856864398507479194




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    Regardless of how anyone feels about Trump’s picks, let’s isolate what we know:

    -The enemy is terrified
    -Elon is bullish on justice

    Based on the reactions from the Left, Trump appears to have touched some nerves with his appointees. Great sign.

    Elon is excited about it, and he is incontrovertibly one of the smartest living beings on Earth. He seems to be all-in on the situation and he has been in Trump’s ear the entire time. I trust his judgement and his vision. If Elon is excited, that’s a great sign. The country is in good hands.

    Also, Trump and Congress just proved that us bitching about who we want on the Internet, solved absolutely NOTHING and changed zero minds. Trump still picked Rubio for SOS, and the Senate did not pick Scott for SML. We may have influence, but not raw power.

    My point is, that it’s out of our hands now. We generated enough votes and hired Trump to get the job done. Now all we can do is see if he and his team can produce results. If they do, awesome. If they don’t, well then we are right back where we started, but at least there will be less LGBTQ flags flying around, cheaper gas, and it’s infinitely better than Kamala.

    Ultimately my message is … relax. Let it unfold. Focus on what we can control, which is replacing the failed corporate media, and waking up normies. The rest is in Trump’s hands now.


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    https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1856827333081997354



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    Andrew Weissmann on Matt Gaetz as Attorney General: “They are untethered to the facts & maybe also the law … We are in pure George Orwell 1984 land”

    Hey Andrew - you had the whole witch hunt SpyGate team you were leading for Mueller wipe their phones.

    STFU.


    — Brian Cates - Political Columnist & Pundit (@drawandstrike) November 13, 2024



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    MSNBC brought on Mueller's "pit bill" Andrew Weissmann to condemn Trump's @MattGaetz pick out of fear that he would weaponize the justice department.

    ANDREW. WEISSMANN.

    This is kind of like bringing on Jeffrey Dahmer for culinary criticism

    updated

    https://x.com/paulsperry_/status/1856813569519554681



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    FLASHBACK: Gaetz knows where all the Russiagate/Crossfire Hurricane/FISA bodies are buried--and he knows Durham covered up most of them. Watch him grill Durham on his sham investigation: "You weren't really trying to expose the true core of the corruption"
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    Bill predicted for this year that Elon would get more involved in politics - talk about a home-run
    And that the German government would fall, currently in rapid progress. (The next big one I'm waiting for is that Trudeau will resign as Canada's PM.)


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    Tom Elliott
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    Hey Andrew - you had the whole witch hunt SpyGate team you were leading for Mueller wipe their phones.

    STFU.


    — Brian Cates - Political Columnist & Pundit (@drawandstrike) November 13, 2024

    *

    from what I've seen of Matt Gaetz he's an impressive politician - loyal and outspoken - I seem to remember that the men Trump put in position of Attorney General in his first term turned out to be a let down - ?

    (there was the one with the little sticky out ears who recused himself over the endless Russia Russia Russia business.... then the one who looked like Elton John's brother who didn't help when the 2020 election was stolen... :-) )


    I don't think Trump will have problems like that with Matt Gaetz ...

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    https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1857106083891786144



    Senator John Cornyn has run to the press to complain about the @MattGaetz AG nomination.

    The senator wants to reopen the ethics probe. Again.

    Cornyn didn't even wait until the smoke cleared from the Senate Majority Leader vote to stab Trump in the back

    — Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) November 14, 2024

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    Bernhard Guenther sheds interesting and helpful perspective from the bigger picture, more esoteric side of what all is happening right now.

    https://x.com/veilofreality/status/1857136071382802569

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    New Podcast: NAVIGATING THE TIMELINE SPLIT

    The world has split into two distinct timelines, two different perceptions of reality. This has become more pronounced since the 2020 Saturn-Pluto conjunction.

    Polarization in the US seems to be increasing, and as we head into Pluto in Aquarius, this fragmentation may become more pronounced.

    With Trump getting elected, one side of the US is in mourning, believing that the US is now under a fascist dictatorship where all of their rights are being taken away, while the other side is celebrating what feels like a win for truth, freedom, and humanity.

    Some people also refuse to get involved in what is going on. They want to be “left alone,” so to speak. Many think this is just another “s-election” with two wings of the same bird. Some people take the “non-dual” spiritual bypass, using the higher concept that “all is one” to avoid acknowledging the subjective experience.

    Another side has become completely “black-pilled,” stuck in a doom-and-gloom mindset, prepping for the end times. They can’t see any good in what has happened because they see humanity rushing to a transhumanism technocracy with no way out.

    In this podcast, we discuss the different points of view that we are seeing and how to navigate the ongoing timeline split. We also discuss the major transits and aspects affecting the US, the World, and humanity from an evolutionary astrology perspective, how Saturn-Pluto conjunctions manifest in Psychological Splitting, and more.

    Show Notes Part 1:

    - Trump’s election victory and the different reactions
    - Bernhard talks about how his views have changed over the years
    - Trump is the necessary evolutionary force beyond good or evil
    - The response of the Left and their conspiracy theories about why the election was stolen
    - Mass psychosis has formed on the Left since Trump was elected
    - Donald Trump’s plans to dismantle the deep state
    - What we might see happen leading up to the inauguration
    - How do we navigate this timeline split?
    - It all relates to the Pluto return of America and Pluto entering Aquarius
    - What is happening now will influence the next 248 years to come.
    - What values need to be shed and what needs to be strengthened will be strengthened.
    - This is a reuniting of the original energy that the founding fathers carried. This is radical change energy.
    - Transforming the energy of the existing old world (Capricorn) system.
    - While many will be grieving the old world they have lost, what happens in the years to come symbolizes what is unfolding in America’s destiny.
    - No politician will ultimately save us. It is WE THE PEOPLE (Aquarian energy), who ultimately save ourselves.
    - America was founded by a band of rebels and outsiders, and it will be reborn by a band of rebels and outsiders,
    - Those individuated souls who were willing to think for themselves spoke out and risked being exiled for it carry the template for this next era we are entering
    - Pluto in Aquarius themes – the light and the dark
    - We will be seeing a lot of people who will have a really hard time recovering from the intense media propaganda and brainwashing. It could psychologically fracture them for years to come
    - Some may stay under the effects of the brainwashing their whole lives, never seeing the truth, while for others, this could be a critical moment of disillusionment, which could lead to a deeper awakening.
    - Psychological warfare and the way out
    - How to have open conversations between two people with opposing views
    The 58 minute podcast audio can be accessed here:

    Navigating The Timeline Split

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    But, then, do those that consider themselves as Trump supporters give a flying f*** about the nations in the Middle East?
    I'm a Trump supporter, and I do care about the nations, and the people, in the Middle East.

    (which might qualify me for an honorary "White Queen" medal ... she's the one who said that she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" in Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking-Glass".)
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    But it is also a reality that in 2024 they did not engage in massive stealing because they knew they would fail.
    ... or they did attempt massive stealing ... but failed ... much to their shock and dismay.

    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    The only reason that the voting had consequences this time and that Trump was elected is because the System wanted Trump to become President. That fact should give you pause to ask – why? What does the System have in store for us after Trump throws us some bones? For whom will he really work?
    I doubt that "the System" is monolithic. The "families" they are a feuding ... still feuding ... albeit and apparently more intensely than is normal.
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    Quote Posted by arwen (here)
    Bernhard Guenther sheds interesting and helpful perspective from the bigger picture, more esoteric side of what all is happening right now.

    https://x.com/veilofreality/status/1857136071382802569

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    [INDENT]Bernhard Guenther
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    New Podcast: NAVIGATING THE TIMELINE SPLIT

    The world has split into two distinct timelines, two different perceptions of reality. This has become more pronounced since the 2020 Saturn-Pluto conjunction.

    <snip>

    The 58 minute podcast audio can be accessed here:

    Navigating The Timeline Split

    Great post - Quoting this (with fond remembrance of Terence McKenna's Novelty Theory discussions) to speak for myself

    Also: I originally voted for Trump in 2016, as opposed to sitting out the election, for the kind of novelty and government shake-ups and trolling I expected from him - and he has not disappointed on that score.

    https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1857090357218967579




    Emergent Perspective
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    We are definitely living in the most entertaining timeline. 💯✨🤣
    @DOGE
    #DOGE


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    https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1857166054658584980



    You can read the Politico except below.

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    update

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-hhs-secretary

    Trump Nominates RFK Jr. For HHS Secretary

    by Tyler Durden
    Thursday, Nov 14, 2024 - 04:13 PM
    President-elect Donald Trump has nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to be secretary of Health and Human Services.




    The 70-year-old Kennedy has been a longtime health advocate who Trump said he would let "go wild," should he win the November 5 election.

    "He’s going to help make America healthy again. … He wants to do some things, and we’re going to let him get to it," Trump said during his victory speech. "Go have a good time, Bobby."

    In a post to Truth Social, Trump said:

    I am thrilled to announce Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS). For too long, Americans have been crushed by the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged in deception, misinformation, and disinformation when it comes to Public Health. The Safety and Health of all Americans is the most important role of any Administration, and HHS will play a big role in helping ensure that everybody will be protected from harmful chemicals, pollutants, pesticides, pharmaceutical products, and food additives that have contributed to the overwhelming Health Crisis in this Country. Mr. Kennedy will restore these Agencies to the traditions of Gold Standard Scientific Research, and beacons of Transparency, to end the Chronic Disease epidemic, and to Make America Great and Healthy Again!

    That said, Politico suggested that Kennedy "may still face a steep slope to confirmation" over his fight against overvaccination, and his book accusing former NIH official Anthony Fauci of conspiring with Bill Gates and drugmakers to sell COVID-19 vaccines.

    Kennedy says he isn't taking vaccines away from anyone - he just wants to ensure they're safe.


    ...

    Meanwhile...






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    Trump posted this on Truth today....it appears he's trying to be as careful as possible assembling his team.


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    Donald J. Trump quote: "I am thrilled to announce Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS). For too long, Americans have been crushed by the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged in deception, misinformation, and disinformation when it comes to Public Health. The Safety and Health of all Americans is the most important role of any Administration, and HHS will play a big role in helping ensure that everybody will be protected from harmful chemicals, pollutants, pesticides, pharmaceutical products, and food additives that have contributed to the overwhelming Health Crisis in this Country. Mr. Kennedy will restore these Agencies to the traditions of Gold Standard Scientific Research, and beacons of Transparency, to end the Chronic Disease epidemic, and to Make America Great and Healthy Again!"


    The Department of Health & Human Services is led by the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services, a member of the United States Cabinet appointed by the President of the United States with the consent of the United States Senate. The secretary is assisted in managing the department by the Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services, who is also appointed by the president. The secretary and deputy secretary are further assisted by seven assistant secretaries, who serve as top departmental administrators.

    The Department of Health and Human Services was authorized a budget for fiscal year 2020 of $1.293 trillion. [here]

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    • Washington Today (11-14-24): President-elect Trump picks RFK, Jr. for Health & Human Services Sec:

    President-elect Donald Trump chooses Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., former Democratic and Independent presidential candidate, to be Health & Human Services Secretary. Senate Judiciary Committee chair Dick Durbin (D-IL) is demanding the House Ethics Committee turn over its report on former Congressman Matt Gaetz (R-FL), who has been nominated by President-elect Donald Trump for Attorney General. Nikki Haley, former Republican presidential candidate, says she turned down an offer from a Trump ally to reconcile with the president-elect and maybe join his administration. Incoming Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) talks about how he plans to run the Senate in the next Congress, including bringing up individual government spending bills for debate and amendment instead of rolling them all into one big bill at the end of the year.. A bipartisan group of Senators tries to get a bill through to replenish the Small Business Administration disaster loan program, which has run out following the hurricanes that hit the southeast U.S., but the bill is blocked by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)
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    President-elect Donald J. Trump announced late today that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., founder of Children’s Health Defense (CHD), is his pick to lead the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

    “I am thrilled to announce Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS),” Trump announced on X. “For too long, Americans have been crushed by the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged in deception, misinformation, and disinformation when it comes to Public Health.”

    Kennedy accepted the offer, sources confirmed today.

    CNN:
    • “Kennedy’s selection, first reported by Politico, is a notable one given that only days before the election, Trump’s transition co-chair Howard Lutnick told CNN that Kennedy was ‘not getting a job for HHS.’
    • “‘He would not be in charge of HHS?’ he was asked on ‘The Source with Kaitlan Collins.’
    • “‘No,’ Lutnick said, ‘of course not.’
    • “That answer set off an internal uproar in Trump’s orbit, with Trump making clear to Kennedy that he would make the ultimate decisions.”
    During the COVID-19 pandemic, Kennedy rose to prominence as a leading critic of pandemic policies, including lockdowns, experimental vaccines and mandates. As a result, the Biden administration specifically targeted Kennedy for censorship.

    In April 2023, Kennedy took leave from CHD to run for president as a Democrat. He later switched gears to run as an independent. In August, Kennedy suspended his campaign and endorsed former President Donald Trump.

    After endorsing Trump, Kennedy and his team launched the Make American Healthy Again campaign. He vowed to do whatever it takes to get toxic chemicals out of our food, our soil, our water and our air.

    If confirmed, Kennedy would hold the most powerful governmental position in public health. HHS oversees many public health agencies, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the National Institutes of Health.

    Kennedy has indicated that the Trump administration would make key changes to public health policy, including recommending an end to water fluoridation. Scientists at HHS and at many major research institutions have found that water fluoridation poses a risk to children’s neurodevelopment.

    He has also committed, if given a role in the Trump administration, to take up the issue of vaccine safety. Kennedy has said that within two years he will be able to make America healthy again by addressing chronic disease, addiction, toxic processed foods and unsafe medications. This is a developing story.


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