Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Opening this new thread for discussion on the JFK File and Trump's promise to release it. A number of posts have been moved from the Trump is Not the Answer thread where this discussion did not really belong.

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If Trump releases the JFK Files, and what's in there is what we all think is in there -- that a branch of the deep state, namely the CIA, were meaningfully involved in the planning and execution of Kennedy's assassination, the cover-up thereof, the total whitewash thereof that was the Warren Commission, the silencing and indeed elimination thereof of numerous key witnesses over the years, and the installation thereof of one Lyndon B. Johnson, their puppet in waiting...then yeah, goddammit, I will love him. Because it will mean treason, won't it. High Treason.

A coup d'état...

This is the political/industrial/military/war complex we've been talking about for decades. They have, for all intents and purposes, divided, corrupted and ruled the world since the War. No one since Kennedy has had the balls to take them on, let alone pull it off. If Trump really does do this, and those files are as damning as we hope they are, he'll not only prove the "conspiracy theory" true, but that all those "retarded conspiracy theorists" (like us) were correct all along. That has the power to change everything, everything, and I mean, everything.

But we'll see, won't we.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
If Trump releases the JFK Files, and what's in there is what we all think is in there -- that a branch of the deep state, namely the CIA, were meaningfully involved in the planning and execution of Kennedy's assassination, the cover-up thereof, the total whitewash thereof that was the Warren Commission, the silencing and indeed elimination thereof of numerous key witnesses over the years, and the installation thereof of one Lyndon B. Johnson, their puppet in waiting...then yeah, goddammit, I will love him. Because it will mean treason, won't it. High Treason.

A coup d'état...

This is the political/industrial/military/war complex we've been talking about for decades. They have, for all intents and purposes, divided, corrupted and ruled the world since the War. No one since Kennedy has had the balls to take them on, let alone pull it off. If Trump really does do this, and those files are as damning as we hope they are, he'll not only prove the "conspiracy theory" true, but that all those "retarded conspiracy theorists" (like us) were correct all along. That has the power to change everything, everything, and I mean, everything.

But we'll see, won't we.

https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1856342200906391933

Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
"If anyone is going to do it, it's going to be the son of one of the assassinated Kennedy brothers... It's storybook."

RFK Jr. running mate @NicoleShanahan reveals the "storybook" way for Trump to release the JFK files.

This would be poetic justice.

[T Smith]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
If Trump releases the JFK Files, and what's in there is what we all think is in there -- that a branch of the deep state, namely the CIA, were meaningfully involved in the planning and execution of Kennedy's assassination, the cover-up thereof, the total whitewash thereof that was the Warren Commission, the silencing and indeed elimination thereof of numerous key witnesses over the years, and the installation thereof of one Lyndon B. Johnson, their puppet in waiting...then yeah, goddammit, I will love him. Because it will mean treason, won't it. High Treason.

A coup d'état...

I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I don't think--I know the CIA was involved in the execution and cover-up of the Kennedy assassination. Unless those files disclose that we are all slaves living in a simulation controlled by aliens, I don't really know what the big deal is about. The CIA planned and killed Kennedy. We would only be shocked to learn otherwise, and if Trump releases the JFK files, in full, take it to the bank any revelation therein will be anticlimactic.

Oh is that all? Tell us something we don't already know...

We don't need to know what's in the files. What we need, is for our government to admit what we all know they did so we can deal with the betrayal, move on, and begin to heal as a nation. We have been gaslit now for over sixty years--and the degree to which this absurd abuse is metastisizng in every ministry of truth telling and governance is dizzying. Inasmuch as a spouse finally coming clean and admitting to a suspected infidelity after adamantly gaslighting with absurd denials and psychological abuse, unfortunately the only thing that can come out of declassifying the JFK files is a national divorce from the CIA, and a forced rethinking of all the intelligence agencies and government institutions that have lied, covered up, and betrayed our trust all these years. For the past sixty one years nobody dared go there....which is why, IMHO, these files remain classified to this day.

Why is Trump THE answer? Because it's time to come clean and rethink this government experiment by and for the people, which has been occupied and on life support for the better part of the last century. No one else has had the stones or ability to pull that off. Nobody. Love or hate him, fearful or reverent of his prowess and of the promise or danger such political efficacy poses to the world, one man has co-opted and transformed the cuckold wing of the Uniparty and is seizing back control of government from the Deep State, and back into the hands of the people. That's not a deification. That's just a fact.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by T Smith (here)
I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I don't think--I know the CIA was involved in the execution and cover-up of the Kennedy assassination. Unless those files disclose that we are all slaves living in a simulation controlled by aliens, I don't really know what the big deal is about.

I'll tell you what the big deal is.

You and I may know what's in those files, but the rest of the world are clueless. They live in a bubble created for them by the mainstream media! A bubble where Oswald, a 'lone commie nut', fired three times from the sixth-floor window of the Book Depository, striking Kennedy twice, once fatally. A bubble that denied it could have happened any other way, and scoffed at notions the government was involved, or that Johnson himself had foreknowledge. A bubble, also, where the North Vietnamese were to blame for the Gulf of Tonkin incident that triggered all-out war that would last another decade and kill tens of thousands of Americans. A bubble where two 100-storey sky-scrapers fell into their own footprint due to 'fire' and fire alone, and scoffed at notions that 9/11 was anything but Muslim terrorists who accidentally slipped through the net, and any mention of government complicity is considered downright offensive. And regarding Building 7...oh wait, in this bubble they've never even heard of Building 7.

And a bubble where the world's deadliest virus lurks behind every corner...but a flimsy face mask will save you. A bubble where taking the shot is for your own protection.

The bubble contains thousands more micro (fake) realities, all formed and fashioned by lies sanctioned by the state, then wrapped and delivered in a cute little bundle by a media narrative that most have placed their trust in for sixty years. Believe. Obey. Stay Asleep...or get a strike on social media, or a fact-check note from our friends at Wikipedia. Or become a social pariah -- where you'll be called a conspiracy theorist (which is really just a code-word for retarded) for the rest of your life.

Posted by T Smith (here)
Oh is that all? Tell us something we don't already know...

You seriously underestimate the existential earthquake that Official Disclosure of Kennedy's coup d'état would have on a sleeping world.

Thousands of questions will follow. A first one might be why was Kennedy killed - nay, executed? Why would our own government gun-down a sitting President, on a city street, in broad daylight, and then maliciously cover it up (killing off key witnesses along the way, oh yes), over a period of sixty years?

[[Spoiler alert: it was an intelligence hit on behalf of the aerospace industrial complex. Not oil men in Texas, or the mob, or Castro. Daniel Liszt has gathered up a great deal of evidence in this regard, and it's very compelling stuff. JFK was killed for the UFO file. He was about to blow the lid on it and share the technology with Russia]]

When I said 'if what's in those files is what we all think is in those files', I meant if the files are original -- un-tampered with in other words. If the world is about to see proof that "Kennedy was assassinated by his own government", it will act as a kind of permission-slip for people previously living in bubbles (and they number in the billions) to recognise that the conspiracies they denied all their lives are real.

And then surely the floodgates will open.

It has the potential to set-off a true great awakening. All those adjacent rabbit-holes, known to us for many years, will suddenly open up for the rest of the world -- places they didn't know exist, because they didn't believe they existed.

Seismic.

[T Smith]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by T Smith (here)
I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I don't think--I know the CIA was involved in the execution and cover-up of the Kennedy assassination. Unless those files disclose that we are all slaves living in a simulation controlled by aliens, I don't really know what the big deal is about.

I'll tell you what the big deal is.

You and I may know what's in those files, but the rest of the world are clueless. They live in a bubble created for them by the mainstream media! A bubble where Oswald, a 'lone commie nut', fired three times from the sixth-floor window of the Book Depository, striking Kennedy twice, once fatally. A bubble that denied it could have happened any other way, and scoffed at notions the government was involved, or that Johnson himself had foreknowledge. A bubble, also, where the North Vietnamese were to blame for the Gulf of Tonkin incident that triggered all-out war that would last another decade and kill tens of thousands of Americans. A bubble where two 100-storey sky-scrapers fell into their own footprint due to 'fire' and fire alone, and scoffed at notions that 9/11 was anything but Muslim terrorists who accidentally slipped through the net, and any mention of government complicity is considered downright offensive. And regarding Building 7...oh wait, in this bubble they've never even heard of Building 7.

I have to admit this level of ignorance is frightening. I really don't understand it. So I suppose I do base my own assumptions on my own ignorance of pubic intuition and understanding.

Nothing about the JFK assassination, 9/11, or any other so-called conspiracy theories where the facts are so blatantly evident, is that hard to understand.

Regardless, if the sleeping masses are that clueless, it's time to wake them from their slumber. Open the files. It's up to those of us who have familiarized ourselves with the terrain of the adjacent rabbit holes to be the rational guides and a calm grounding presence during the great awakening.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by T Smith (here)
So I suppose I do base my own assumptions on my own ignorance of pubic intuition and understanding.

I think you must be. The public is utterly clueless. And by public I mean the sheep, the greater portion of the huddled masses who never troubled themselves to burrow a single inch into any of these so-called rabbit holes.

If you don't believe me, put out some feelers and experiment. Ask around your friends and family. Ask them who they think assassinated Kennedy, and why. Ask them about Ruby. Ask them about RFK, and MLK -- who shot them, and why? (I bet most couldn't even name the patsies who were wrongly sent down for those murders).

Then ask them other conspiracy-related questions: like 9/11, Bohemian Grove, and Roswell. Try Pizzagate on for size, Chemtrails, the climate scam, and Project Mockingbird that has infiltrated our media since the fifties. Their eyes will glaze over when you tell them about the Secret Space Program, the death of Princess Diana, HAARP, Drugs and the CIA, and MK-Ultra psyops...

The list could go on and on.

Look at this chart. I constructed it a while ago. It's designed to illustrate -- in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way -- the different stratas of belief and understanding when it comes to fringe ideas and conspiracies. But ostensibly, the TOTAL DISCONNECT of those who live at the bottom, in the inverted green triangle. That's where I estimate approximately 90% of the population live out their lives. Their entire lives.

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[onawah]

There will never be an 'awakening' until...

Posted by onawah (here)
I think the discussion has to go back to the looming disaster that puts all other disasters into an uncomfortable and rarely viewed perspective...

Posted by Mari (here)
There will never be an 'awakening' until things are so bad as to be un-liveable amongst the majority of the population. I feel we have some way to go before that happens because too many here are quite comfortable in their lives and worse, because there is no spiritual unity amongst us, not enough people really give a damn if others are suffering.
I think it will take a seismic 'event' which will shake us to the core and awaken our 'one-ness'. What that event will be is anyone's guess but I feel it's the only way. If our 'election' results are anything to go by, then we simply do not have the luxury of time in which to naturally awaken because all exits are closing fast in this country.
It's going to take something quite extraordinary to shock us out of our trance

...A disaster that is eliminated from nearly every discussion because people are more or less struck dumb once it's been properly taken into consideration...
(Other than, perhaps, the question of regressive, hostile ETs or EDs (extra-dimensional beings) who want this planet for themselves.
Or parasitic beings who just want to suck humanity's energy, and the more Loosh the better.)

That question never seems to fit into the more mundane discussions about politics, world affairs etc.... not because it isn't valid, but because our brains just don't quite know how to incorporate such a "woo woo" perspective into the usual, more mundane subjects, however intelligently referenced the latter may be.

Conspiracy theorists are one of the few groups of people who should be able to integrate these subjects intelligently and coherently.
Even so, it seems to be very challenging and intimidating.
Inevitably discussions become divided into neater, more contained and manageable subjects, with the woo woo factor gradually either watered down or simply relegated to the most woo woo of all of the discussions.
(Which are usually at least somewhat discredited or "disreputable", in any case.)

But when it comes down to the spectre of the global cataclysms that push a giant Restart button every 6,000 and/or 12,000 years or so, discussion can simply sputter to a halt.
I'm referring to the subject matter that has been covered at length on this thread since 2019: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...netic+reversal

...A thread which started out being viewed as generally unproven and "woo woo" but has gradually become more and more recognized as not only plausible, but probable by many here on Avalon.
The one way in which the looming disaster ( literally a "seismic event") can be incorporated into the overall discussions (about the state of the world and where it's headed) ...is to consider what needs to be preserved so that the next Restart will be as successful as possible.
Commencing by finding ways in which all the complicated distractions that are hindering those goals can be eliminated.

That necessitates an expansion of perspective and refraining from the kind of thinking we have all grown used to, which divides everything up neatly into categories that overlap only as much as is possible without going "off topic".
One thing that would certainly be desirable is the dissemination of information that has been so rigidly suppressed concerning advanced technology.
Such as Wade Frazier has discussed at length in his thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...-Healed-Planet
(...And more recently, here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...and-Technology )

But a major roadblock to uniting such seemingly disparate subjects into a coherent discussion is that the cataclymic Restart that looms (estimated to be finished by sometime in the 2040s) could cause so much damage if humanity is not prepared, that it will mean a return to quite a primitive kind of existence.
Which is not unrealistic considering how dependent civilization is on the electric grid, something which the coming micronova will largely destroy if the grid is not somehow made much more sustainable, and soon.
Or some much more sustainble, advanced substitute is provided.

But how to narrow down all the distracting discussions into forms which will finally begin to focus on such problems which need our full attention if civilization is to survive, without having to return to a primitive pre-industrial state once the earth changes are done?
For one thing, there would have to be some agreement on how much time would have to pass before it would be possible for the survivors to reorganize and begin working together to form cohesive societies.
Judging by the amount of time it has taken previous civilizations that were decimated by the solar cycle cataclysms, it can take centuries.

All the more reason to get to the stage asap where discussion can begin which includes that extraordinary seismic event and how to prepare for it.
Though that may seem premature at this stage, that may simply be because we are mentally logjammed and not entirely willing as yet.
I've often wondered if the promised information which Trump refrained from disclosing during his first term of office (saying that anyone would do the same if they knew what it was) had to do with the 12,000 solar cycle.

That would undoubtedly be just the thing to shock us us out of our trance...

...Out of the varying levels of trance that prevail, that is...and each awakening mind may have an invisible effect on the still sleeping minds, via the " hundredth monkey" phenomena. https://www.hundredthmonkey.org/100th-monkey-effect/

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
The public is utterly clueless. And by public I mean the sheep, the greater portion of the huddled masses who never troubled themselves to burrow a single inch into any of these so-called rabbit holes.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by onawah (here)
There will never be an 'awakening' until...

Posted by onawah (here)
I think the discussion has to go back to the looming disaster that puts all other disasters into an uncomfortable and rarely viewed perspective...

Posted by Mari (here)
There will never be an 'awakening' until things are so bad as to be un-liveable amongst the majority of the population. I feel we have some way to go before that happens because too many here are quite comfortable in their lives and worse, because there is no spiritual unity amongst us, not enough people really give a damn if others are suffering.
I think it will take a seismic 'event' which will shake us to the core and awaken our 'one-ness'. What that event will be is anyone's guess but I feel it's the only way. If our 'election' results are anything to go by, then we simply do not have the luxury of time in which to naturally awaken because all exits are closing fast in this country.

Though the number of people still asleep is shocking, I should mention the number waking up is also something to behold. Since covid, four years ago, there's been a huge increase in the people I know who are asking questions they would never have even thought of before. Just your average Joe, like people I work with. They don't trust the government now, don't trust the media, and are seriously starting to wake up.

Posted by onawah (here)

Posted by Mari (here)
It's going to take something quite extraordinary to shock us out of our trance

Covid was extraordinary. That happened. And it will happen again and to a far greater degree if proof is presented that the government assassinated its own president. Not forgetting their role in the aftermath -- blaming it on Oswald, killing JP Tippett to shut him up, using mafia stooge Jack Ruby to kill Oswald on live TV to shut him up, and the hijacking of the subsequent investigation, the stupid magic-bullet theory they pushed on us, and Warren the Commission that followed where those guilty of the crime essentially investigated themselves.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by T Smith (here)
So I suppose I do base my own assumptions on my own ignorance of pubic intuition and understanding.

Look at this chart. I constructed it a while ago. It's designed to illustrate -- in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way -- the different stratas of belief and understanding when it comes to fringe ideas and conspiracies. But ostensibly, the TOTAL DISCONNECT of those who live at the bottom, in the inverted green triangle. That's where I estimate approximately 90% of the population live out their lives. Their entire lives.

That chart is a fantastic graphic, Mark!

(almost as good as the one that saved Prez-elect Trump )

[onawah]

Yet still no mention of the core subject of my post (though admittedly somewhat "off topic"), which is the coming global disasters (geomagnetic pole reversal, micronova, tsunamis, migration of continents, etc., all predicted to have occurred sometime before the end of the 2040s)...before which all other disasters pale in comparison.
That avoidance of the subject is exactly why I brought it up in the first place.
It's either the most extreme kind of denial, or the reality is still not believed, accepted or comprehended.
It surprises me that Avalonians apparently are still subject to those mindsets, considering the amount of focused discussion about it that has taken place at times in various threads.
Somehow it seldom is mentioned except within a very narrow context, yet there is no escaping the reality and far-reaching consequences which make every other issue look like a storm in a teacup.
Why is that?

[QUOTE=Mark (Star Mariner);1642138][QUOTE=onawah;1642136]There will never be an 'awakening' until...

Posted by onawah (here)
I think the discussion has to go back to the looming disaster that puts all other disasters into an uncomfortable and rarely viewed perspective...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by T Smith (here)
So I suppose I do base my own assumptions on my own ignorance of pubic intuition and understanding.

I think you must be. The public is utterly clueless. And by public I mean the sheep, the greater portion of the huddled masses who never troubled themselves to burrow a single inch into any of these so-called rabbit holes.

For most of the likely major conspiracies of our time (Gulf of Tonkin, JFK/MLK/RFK assassinations, moon landings, 9/11, Covid, the USDA food pyramid, "modern" medicine, science, and economics, ...) there was a period of time, perhaps days long or perhaps decades long, where I thought the "main stream" narrative was more or less correct.

Life has become a series of lessons in treating others whom I think are hopeless idiots on some topic, with the same quiet amused tolerance as I have been belatedly grateful for others showing me in my moments of idiocy.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by onawah (here)
That avoidance of the subject is exactly why I brought it up in the first place.

There are limits to how many paradigm shifts in major, quite distinct albeit inexplicably entangled, subjects we can engage in coherent or useful discussion at the same time.

For most of us much of the time, that limit seems to be zero or one such subject.

My no doubt limited understanding of each of these topics,
(1) the shift from thousands of years of tyrannical rule over humanity, and
(2) a 12,000 year climax in solar system energetic's,
barely, individually, fits in my little brain on a good day.

When and how those two dramas will entangle would best be discussed with a good friend after one too many glasses of "adult beverage."

[onawah]

I get it, but at some point the distraction factor is going to wear off ( I have no doubt it's a psyop) adequately, and the horrid truth will have to be faced full on/sober.
Otherwise people (conspiracy theorists in particular) will be kicking themselves unmercifully from now to kingdom come.

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
That avoidance of the subject is exactly why I brought it up in the first place.

There are limits to how many paradigm shifts in major, quite distinct albeit inexplicably entangled, subjects we can engage in coherent or useful discussion at the same time.

For most of us much of the time, that limit seems to be zero or one such subject.

My no doubt limited understanding of each of these topics,
(1) the shift from thousands of years of tyrannical rule over humanity, and
(2) a 12,000 year climax in solar system energetic's,
barely, individually, fits in my little brain on a good day.

When and how those two dramas will entangle would best be discussed with a good friend after one too many glasses of "adult beverage."

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by onawah (here)
I get it, but at some point the distraction factor is going to wear off ( I have no doubt it's a psyop) adequately, and the horrid truth will have to be faced full on/sober.
Otherwise people (conspiracy theorists in particular) will be kicking themselves unmercifully from now to kingdom come.

Yup - and we seem to be approaching the climax, when we will know how this crisis resolves - or at least how it transforms into some other dilemma (perhaps the collapse and eruption of our planet's and solar system's fields?)

Hang tough - keep your wits about you - and may we both live long enough to see the worst of this through, and work individually and with others around us to leave the world in a better place.

[onawah]

In the meantime, this could provide a good alternative distraction, if it all gets to be too much...:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BqcBJRaYZ4E

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
I get it, but at some point the distraction factor is going to wear off ( I have no doubt it's a psyop) adequately, and the horrid truth will have to be faced full on/sober.
Otherwise people (conspiracy theorists in particular) will be kicking themselves unmercifully from now to kingdom come.

Yup - and we seem to be approaching the climax, when we will know how this crisis resolves - or at least how it transforms into some other dilemma (perhaps the collapse and eruption of our planet's and solar system's fields?)

Hang tough - keep your wits about you - and may we both live long enough to see the worst of this through, and work individually and with others around us to leave the world in a better place.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by onawah (here)
Yet still no mention of the core subject of my post (though admittedly somewhat "off topic"), which is the coming global disasters (geomagnetic pole reversal, micronova, tsunamis, migration of continents, etc., all predicted to have occurred sometime before the end of the 2040s)

I didn't mention it because I didn't see any relevance: I don't believe in this "disaster" scenario.

There will be wild weather, there will be earthquakes and so on -- but a cataclysm to end all life on earth, or grossly reduce it to a trickle? No.

But that's just my opinion. Anyone can believe what they want to believe.

What I believe is coming is not a cataclysm, but an apocalypse.

Apocalypse
a·poc·a·lypse (ə-pŏk′ə-lĭps′)

n.
A prophetic disclosure; a revelation.

What form it arrives in I've no idea. Possibly a flash of light from the cosmos, or the sun. It's been predicted for many years. I first heard about it from psychics in 1991. Its time may finally be coming. The trigger, it's been told, will be the total energetic division of humanity along two separate time-lines (we can see something like that happening right now!). A dimensional shift shall result, and there will be two Earths. Sounds mad, right. But who knows!?? It sure is nice to imagine though...

A number of threads cover this hypothesis, mostly in the 2012 and Beyond section. Also these threads:

Ascension, Dolores Cannon and '5D': Splitting into two Earths
The Future Earth

But none of that belongs in this thread.

[Dennis Leahy]

I did not post my posts (above) in this thread. My posts were censored out of the "Trump is not the Answer" thread, and I'm asking that they, and DNA's posts (above) be restored to the thread where they are pertinent.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

They weren't censored, Dennis. A series of posts were batched-moved to this new thread, focused on the potential release of the JFK file. I don't know how your reply ended up in this thread. It wasn't anything I did. I made the move two hours before you even posted your reply. Whatever the case your post, and DNA's that you were replying to, have been moved back Trump is not the Answer.

[mountain_jim]

This thread appears corrupted or commingled - or at least confusing to me because some posts contain the answer thread heading and some the JFK files heading

I refreshed the Trump answer thread tab and found myself here and confused about where it all went.

(I never clicked on or chose to go to the JFK thread - so the batch move reassigned the thread ID?)

[mountain_jim]

[QUOTE=onawah;1642167]Yet still no mention of the core subject of my post (though admittedly somewhat "off topic"), which is the coming global disasters (geomagnetic pole reversal, micronova, tsunamis, migration of continents, etc., all predicted to have occurred sometime before the end of the 2040s)...before which all other disasters pale in comparison.
That avoidance of the subject is exactly why I brought it up in the first place.
It's either the most extreme kind of denial, or the reality is still not believed, accepted or comprehended.
It surprises me that Avalonians apparently are still subject to those mindsets, considering the amount of focused discussion about it that has taken place at times in various threads.
Somehow it seldom is mentioned except within a very narrow context, yet there is no escaping the reality and far-reaching consequences which make every other issue look like a storm in a teacup.
Why is that?

[QUOTE=Mark (Star Mariner);1642138]

Posted by onawah (here)
There will never be an 'awakening' until...

Posted by onawah (here)
I think the discussion has to go back to the looming disaster that puts all other disasters into an uncomfortable and rarely viewed perspective...

One can understand the impending disaster cycle event without feeling that every local issue or policy discussion thread is helped by invoking that as the context being left out of the discussion.

That does not imply denial (at least for me), or a question of comprehension or belief.

For myself, I want the scales of US Justice balanced in the short term, and the corruption seen and understood, as that to me is an early step in the awakening needed to throw off the pervasive mind-control.

What do you expect us to do about it?

• I watch and understand Ben's Suspicious Observer videos
• I share this info when I find someone open to hearing it
• I am prepped to the extent I can in the location I am bound to due to aging and infirm parental support requirements

I imagine that fully-truthed disclosure of the Alien presence and interference, suppressed tech, and weather control and modifications is a necessary pre-req to getting the earth disaster cycle info into any serious global or national planning state.

Along with that, getting the bloodline families feudalism history and manipulations disclosure is another pre-req.

None of us here are likely going to be able to get your primary issue focus in front of the public to any meaningful degree at present, so I ask again - what do you expect to be gained from bringing this into so many discussion threads?

And then suggesting denial for us not responding every time you bring it up?

My spiritual bottom line is that if I am still alive for it when it happens, it should be quite a (likely short-lived) ride, and if much of humanity is wiped out, perhaps that is the cleanup and restart that the planet and humanity need this time around.

If this is the timeline that Humanity will Awaken sufficiently in time to preserve the best of this civilization through the transition then great, and I will do my part as I can, but for me personally this is still just one incarnation among many in the ongoing evolution of my soul and our collective human group-soul.