Ex Witch/Channeller/Shaman Saved by Jesus

[Mike]

I think this is one of the most compelling and sincere testimonies I've ever heard. I'm not a particularly religious person - not traditionally anyway - but I was very moved by this and would strongly suggest it to anyone.

I know the title will turn some people off right away, but this young woman doesn't spend much time preaching or attempting to convert anyone. She mostly just tells her story, and it's a whopper.

She was a young musician living the rock and roll lifestyle in Canada, then segued into occult stuff and finally became a Shamanic student, right up until her physical confrontation with an imposing demon.

This is a very grounded, no frills woman, entirely sincere in her motivations. This came from a pretty obscure channel that isn't really active presently, so she's not some new-age grifter type attempting to sell religion now after some faux conversion. It's 100% genuine, and I was very impressed by her and her courage.

1 hour and 50 mins:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wG5Ccyo5jPY

[sunwings]

This was very moving. Thank you for sharing.

[Matthew]

I look forward to listening tomorrow thanks for the thread (it's late here atm, I'll watch them with a fresh head). I've watched a few YouTube videos of people who say they are ex-dark-witches who are now Christians. On the Christian channels on social media there are lots of stories like this. One occultist said he turned to Jesus because he observed 'their side' couldn't beat the name of Jesus. This got him wondering if their side was the most powerful after all. Others have said that while they were in an out-of-body state trying to cause mischief they couldn't curse Christians who were currently praying. I'll hunt some of those videos down and share them here if someone doesn't beat me to it

[Mike]

Posted by Matthew (here)
I look forward to listening tomorrow thanks for the thread (it's late here atm, I'll watch them with a fresh head). I've watched a few YouTube videos of people who say they are ex-dark-witches who are now Christians. On the Christian channels on social media there are lots of stories like this. One occultist said he turned to Jesus because he observed 'their side' couldn't beat the name of Jesus. This got him wondering if their side was the most powerful after all. Others have said that while they were in an out-of-body state trying to cause mischief they couldn't curse Christians who were currently praying. I'll hunt some of those videos down and share them here if someone doesn't beat me to it

I think you'll like it Matthew.

I've seen quite a few occult-to-Christian videos too, and with all due respect to those, this one is a little different. This one is totally raw; it's just her speaking..no interviewer. It's not scripted, crafted, or anything of the sort. It's all right from the heart. And yet, she doesn't waffle or digress really at all.

Everyone has different experiences when it comes to "occult" stuff. Some people seem to thrive by utilizing tarot, ouija, astral travel, etc etc. And for others it appears to open up pathways to demonic experiences, and ultimately a communion with Jesus. I'm offering no judgement either way. I'm merely offering this up as one more data point among many.

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Matthew (here)
I look forward to listening tomorrow thanks for the thread (it's late here atm, I'll watch them with a fresh head). I've watched a few YouTube videos of people who say they are ex-dark-witches who are now Christians. On the Christian channels on social media there are lots of stories like this. One occultist said he turned to Jesus because he observed 'their side' couldn't beat the name of Jesus. This got him wondering if their side was the most powerful after all. Others have said that while they were in an out-of-body state trying to cause mischief they couldn't curse Christians who were currently praying. I'll hunt some of those videos down and share them here if someone doesn't beat me to it

I think you'll like it Matthew.

I've seen quite a few occult-to-Christian videos too, and with all due respect to those, this one is a little different. This one is totally raw; it's just her speaking..no interviewer. It's not scripted, crafted, or anything of the sort. It's all right from the heart. And yet, she doesn't waffle or digress really at all.

Everyone has different experiences when it comes to "occult" stuff. Some people seem to thrive by utilizing tarot, ouija, astral travel, etc etc. And for others it appears to open up pathways to demonic experiences, and ultimately a communion with Jesus. I'm offering no judgement either way. I'm merely offering this up as one more data point among many.

Hi Mike. I’ve only seen to 3:17 so far, intend to watch further, but I think I get the story.

We all have our flaws, our weaknesses, our own different stuff to deal with from our personal soul history, IMO. But I think that we all live our lives with the same constraints, the same spiritual “law” environment.

For me, life means intention. From the minerals of Earth and throughout the cosmos, the plant kingdom here and wherever and likewise the critter kingdom, to us so-called children of the whole, we all intend what we are.

For us ‘children’, in which I’d include any and all alien races, I think the key difference under that law is whether we are for or against.

I am aware of dark intentions, and they always mean to somehow be against. Like taking or hurting, or even in seemingly necessary defence.

I don’t use the word Jesus, I use the words The Christ, and I think it means ‘for’. I set that as my way, or my goal, since a while now. In my experience, we are empowered by whatever we choose to communicate with.

Cheers.

[norman]

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)

I don’t use the word Jesus, I use the words The Christ, and I think it means ‘for’.

I think you are right about that. I recently heard a reading from the foreword of a Rudolf Steiner book from around 1908. I extracted a chunk of it that froze me with my mouth open when I first heard it.

Most of this extract is Steiner's view of Blavatsky, Besant and Theosophy but right at the end of it he mentions "The living Christ".

mp3
https://app.box.com/s/elmpu1sgic9c1l3geu35s6s9xl1oebgo

[Moemers]

[Open Minded Dude]

Let's not forget there's lots of testimonies the other way round. From (fundamentalist) Christian to "new age", "esoteric" or just "spiritual" (whatever the wide spectrum offers.).

As astral projector I also read and heard a lot of stories from other projectors that "Jesus" or "Christ" is a strong protection (It's not from my own experience though). So I have no doubt about the valididity of the statement. I'm sure it works, also against attachments and posessions.

But so are any references or invocations of Archangel Michael (or others), Buddha, Mother Mary, Reiki-energy, Prana, God, Source, etc.

Just offering some perspective and relativity here to this discussion. There is no ONE way.

[Mike]

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
Let's not forget there's lots of testimonies the other way round. From (fundamentalist) Christian to "new age", "esoteric" or just "spiritual" (whatever the wide spectrum offers.).

Yeah for sure. I had a girlfriend who took that path. But as you say, it's usually the fundamentalist Christians who segue into other stuff, not the moderate ones.

As far as there being more than one way: You may be right! But then again you might not be. I just don't know. It's interesting to me that you'd make that statement with such confidence. I mean, what makes you so sure?

On the one hand it feels very restricting and dogmatic to say there's only one way to God. And I get that entirely. I can empathize with that position, and even hope most days it's not true. On the other hand, it's very easy to say there's more than one way, or even endless ways; that way you're relieved of the responsibility of having to define what spirituality is, and you can justify any action or inaction any way you please to account for that approach.

I know this kind of gets in people's craw, and it's not my intention to do that..but to me, it's sort of akin to the woke refusing to define the word "woman" or "man" almost, and the motivation is often the same too - to avoid personal responsibility. Fluidity (any kind, even spiritual fluidity) is often presented as something hip and progressive, but it's just another way of being cowardly and afraid in many instances.

One thing I will say is this: The Christians I've met are generally happier and far more at peace than any of the dedicated occultists/witchs/new-agers I've met. Whether that peace resides in some kind of delusion or not is another matter. Again, I don't know. I'm just offering observations.

Also, occult/New Age/witch/magik types often move from one thing to another, always searching for an answer. They begin with the psychic thing, then the channeling, then the astral travel, then the remote viewing, then this and then that. It's often a circular journey to nowhere. Christian types are already home as far as they're concerned; their searching is over. Their peace is in Jesus, and they require nothing else.

This isn't a promotion for Christianity necessarily. I just offer it here because it's kind of a novelty on a site like this one, where religion is kind of regarded as archaic and primitive.

[Mike]

Posted by Moemers (here)

Ha! Touche

[Moemers]

"God" isn't even the only God in the Bible and I'll posit to you that most people are Christians for the same reason people voted for Kamala - most people will eat what's put in front of them, no questions asked. No primary, no considerations; they want it ready, packaged to heat up in the microwave so they can choke it down half warm and call it "nourishing".

Crowley wanted "each man to cut his own way through the Jungle" but why would they? Like you said, they're already at home...

[Mike]

Posted by Moemers (here)
"God" isn't even the only God in the Bible and I'll posit to you that most people are Christians for the same reason people voted for Kamala - most people will eat what's put in front of them, no questions asked. No primary, no considerations; they want it ready, packaged to heat up in the microwave so they can choke it down half warm and call it "nourishing".

Crowley wanted "each man to cut his own way through the Jungle" but why would they? Like you said, they're already at home...

Well, maybe.

Or, perhaps this tradition has lasted for thousands of years for a reason, and is far more profound than you or I can imagine. Maybe imbibing it all mindlessly is sort of foolish, but then again so is discarding all that accumulated wisdom in favor of the latest Dolores Cannon book.

[Moemers]

cool, you're standing at the edge of the jungle then. going in?

[Mike]

Posted by Moemers (here)
cool, you're standing at the edge of the jungle then. going in?

I think we're all in the jungle, whether we like it or not.

A Christian would likely argue that to not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior would result in endless cutting and no real peace. I made the observation earlier that this seems to be what a lot of occult/new age types do, for better or worse.

But even Christians have to do quite a bit of cutting thru the jungle to arrive at their faith finally. And then they stop cutting. It's often a circuitous route.

Me, I'm still cutting. But I'm seeing some daylight I think.

[Mike]

This is kind of a sister video to the original, for anyone who might be interested. Fascinating stuff by Mika here. 38 mins long:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qTnbSZQrxSg

[Mike]

For the record, when I say 'new age types' I'm also including myself in that group to some degree. It's not meant as ridicule..just for anyone who might take offense.

I've had many psychic and astrological readings; I've practiced astral travel (unsuccessfully); I've had tarot readings; I've used a Ouija board; I've done crystal ceremonies etc etc etc. Everything Mika warns about, I've done it! So, I'm new-age too.

I've been a spiritual nomad for most of my life. And I always regarded this as somewhat noble and wise, until recently. Now I'm not so sure. There's something to be said for committing to something, embracing it totally, foibles and all, and allowing faith to carry you thru all the uncertainties. It's not just what one does when embracing a religion, but also when one gets married, has a family, or any number of deeply meaningful things.

I've always felt sort of clever avoiding what I felt to be these "traps", but now as time passes I'm discovering that what I wanted to believe was cleverness might just be fear presenting itself as cleverness. For most people, the things that give them the most meaning in their lives is their spouse, their kids, and their religion. All those things are big risks, loaded with uncertainties. You have to take risks and make uncertain commitments to have any chance at a meaningful life, far as I can tell. It takes far more courage to operate this way than to sit on the sidelines...and the more I think about it the more I think that's what new age practices really are - inaction presenting itself as action in order to trick oneself into thinking one is in the game while one is really on the sidelines running on a hamster wheel

[Olam]

Hi here, it's been a while...
I listened to the whole thing, was very moved by her authenticity and honesty.
Everytime I hear this kind of testimony, it always brings me back to my deep questioning on a few items she mentioned.

Last year about this time, my guru came into my heart, or was I the one to climb into his, no idea.
I have been worshiping Neem Karoli Baba / Hanuman....
He changed my life in a major way.
I used to get angry and bitter for nothing, had a difficult time finding my place in society.
Not only did he calm my heart, but opened me to myself, the real me, who can feel people just by looking at them.
I love to help people, I bless them silently most of the time, seeing them suffer.
Sometimes I do some healings if the opportunity is there.
Simple things.
Animals come to me with trust, I will restore faith in humanity in a dog that has suffered at the hands of a human.
I can bring peace to horses who have suffered from humans.
When a horse comes to see you and lets you do the work, it is not only an honor, but a confirmation to mne that I am doing the right work.
Horses don't mess around!...they have no time for bull****.
I have a long table at home where I honor my loved ones, including Jesus and my guru.
I have a crystal collection that I cherish, rare Lemurians and nice huge Amethyst points that are wrapped around with a mobius coil that is fed a 15Hz Hulda Clark signal.
I use a Raven's wing, givien to me by an wild animal caretaker, I use it for healings, create sacred wind to blow off collected muck around peoples bodies.
I also honor my Hanuman bronze statue, god of the wind with the wing....kind of powerful.
I have a Bible that I tend to read haphazardly, whatever page opens I read.
I was given my own sacred ancient Hebrew chant that basically honours God.
The Lady who gave it to me got it from her Spirit Guide, they both worked with me to guide me in my most difficult period in my life 30 yrs ago.
She is the one who restored some self love in me, showed me that I was worth loving and had much more in me that I could even imagine.
I now am comfortable doing my healings, a few words here and there that bring refections for some, helps them, guides them.
I feel them and just know what to say....not if I go fishing for info or try to impress the ladies, that does not work, I had to learn all that.

Here is a recent example, yesterday...
I contact my friend, tell him the planet positiuons are difficult right now. difficult in the sense of the personality living the moments.
At a soul level, it"s a great opportunity...
We are being forced to deal issues, fears that we thought had been finally dealt with once again.
People, situations come back on the table just like before.
This time though, universe is giving us the chance to re-visit these issues because now, we are more mature.
This time, instead of just dealing with the issues, we have the chance to heal them truly and step up on the next step of the soul ladder.
We have the past experience of how we dealt the thing and now with hindsight, we can finally take the appropriate action to finilize the lesson.
He could not believe I was saying all this as thats exactly what he was going thru.
By my words, it gave him the right perspective to deal the situation without fear or stress.

These things I do give me a sense of purpose in this life as I too sometimes still wonder what it is that I have to do here.

Now if you are still reading, here is my biggest question concerning the ladies testimony which I love and respect:

She thru 5000 dollars of crystals in the river, she got rid of any other idol than Jesus and seems like Jesus respects that.

Am I possesed?....am I hurting my relation to Jesus which I love?
The fact that I worship Hanuman, my guru and Jesus all the same, am I a heretic?

My parents baptized me, for many years we would go to church on Sunday, I would just sit there waiting for the thing to finish, thinking about the buffet food at Sunday brunch after church. It took a long while for me to understand the priviledge I had to be baptized. I now use holy water in my healings and feel lucky to have recieved this blessing on my body.
I am confused....
Still I wonder, and it is now not Catholic Guilt, ( It took years to get rid of that).
Do I have to throw away my Crystals, throw away my Hanuman statue?......do I stop helping people with what I feel from them because the devil is the one giving me the info?
Do I stop animal healings because because?

When I hear her testimony, thats what I get from it.

I thought all roads lead to God, like in Hindu culture, find your Deity that inspires you, If you are serious in the study, it leads to God!...
Is not God present in everything?
I truly want to do what is right in God's eyes, I don't want Jesus to ignore me.....
That would be so sad.

Kind of still confused when I thought I had it down....
Thats what I have to re-visit these days.

What do you think?

Many blessings to you all, may peace find your sacred heart.

[Friggasdottir]

Actually none of the Abrahamic religions (at least Chrstanianity and Islam) are that old in the grand scheme of things. In fact they took many of their elements from far older religions. So saying just because they have been around to stand the test of time is not a good litmus test of their validity.

[Moemers]

Posted by Friggasdottir (here)
Actually none of the Abrahamic religions (at least Chrstanianity and Islam) are that old in the grand scheme of things. In fact they took many of their elements from far older religions. So saying just because they have been around to stand the test of time is not a good litmus test of their validity.

praying to Saints (and Jesus...) is necromancy.

[Mike]

Posted by Friggasdottir (here)
Actually none of the Abrahamic religions (at least Chrstanianity and Islam) are that old in the grand scheme of things. In fact they took many of their elements from far older religions. So saying just because they have been around to stand the test of time is not a good litmus test of their validity.

Yep, fair enough. But the point is, it's all accumulated wisdom, thousands of years old, regardless of where it comes from and regardless of what it's called.