Stepping out of the shadows, no triggers here

[Hym]

Posted by Hym (here)
It is quite obvious that I Did Forget that I had read Barry's 1st post on This Thread.

Note to myself:

RE-READ THE BEGINNING POST TO ALL THREADS BEFORE COMMENTING....

And my apologies for not doing so.

I have removed the post entirely, as it was way out of context. Understanding, READING AGAIN, the intent of this subject matter, the purpose of the thread that I neglected to check before I went off on a "meaningful" tangent. Funny this, a member who constantly posts using tangental explorations from personal experience, finally apologizing for doing so.

I'll post a comment or two later, along with all of the others here thwat I'm grateful to be able to read, because I share what I view as a common stand against being forced to live in a society that imposes oppressive religious Noise upon the lives of all.

Reading Barry's original post I had to laugh. More at myself and my tangental explorations than anything else.
Although Denise's post cleared it all up, Barry did make the connection to just how the entire media uses diversions that, even if they are true and have bearing on our lives, mask what many of us agree, as Wade's life long, and most valuable quest lives on, is the most important of disclosures to be made.

I do view so many of these topics as interconnected, seeing the similarities that we sometimes miss, connections that do have great impact on seemingly diverse issues.

Just a suggestion here. I would find it appropriate to call the thread A Spirit Wolf's Call to Humanity ( ? ). You know better than anyone here....

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Hi Hym, nice suggestion but will keep the thread title, this is about me stepping back into ufology to help with disclosure. Recently been forced to cover the disgusting way the West has been deliberately overrun with illegal immigrants, all part of the elites plan to RESET Western civilisation. Anyways the big meet in London in few days to show this government, the authorities that ENGLISH PATRIOTS will no longer allow this takeover by foreigners to continue.
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxFWi...-hgFiPCS9GgxpY
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxqId...IKreMoxFK_TZ4m

[Agape]

Spirit Wolf, it's one good solid reason I did not stay in, sorry about it.

The year I was invited and given some work in Cleethorpes was beginning of 2019, right before Brexit.
We have discussed about everything as it was actual and in that particular time period I could have been registered and helped to stay in but in the overall picture it did not make proper sense.

Yes the streets, supermarkets etc. were powered mostly by "immigrants".

Seeing how many people tried or pushed themselves "in" with hope for "better life" and how many are still aspiring to do that made me feel sorry for the UK.

The Czech Republic , as another example, is not bigger than.

So is "Great Britain" , small island in fact compared to the rest of the world.

Since I'm in India these last 5 years in run I tried to explain so many local students and their families how has the situation changed in the EU and GB for last 2 or 3 decades,
how our social care and healthcare systems have fallen ( instead of improved as they naively expect) ,
that our own citizens, respectively - name any European country I know of - are working overtime, endless hours in order to support children and families , that no one is automatically eligible for "social care support", or "pension" unless they worked for sufficient number of years in the same country,
that the job market is satiated especially where it concerns simple manual labour ,
and it all is times worse after the COVID pandemics and after the war erupted between Russia and Ukraine.

Whoever has "been there" and returned , we all try to gently educate and discourage people from "going".

The rest of continents have so much space to build on.

Your situation is only similar to that of Japan and even while Japan has strict immigration policy and guidelines it's crowded and overwhelmed by the weight of its own life.

It's about setting your limits to "affordable" rates, avoid overspending, sorting waste management , finding a solution to traffic pollution forever destroying the landscape ,

I was thrilled to hear how many people (British natives) are into healthy lifestyle, philosophy, vegetarian days and yoga practice, nature protection and so forth.


I think it's because "all the wars" the living space is missing .

People run from war fronts, no matter it's Russia or Ukraine, Israel or Palestine.

We all are taking huge toll for "everyone else", social and economical , not to speak of white washing any philosophical and humanitarian thinking in average humans
whose criteria has been preset on earnings , alignments with systems and consumption of MSM.


Peace and calm

🙏


I found nice movie to share though, both on the topic of immigration and extraterrestrial encounters .
It's about the only advanced thought movie on the topic I found in recent years I found watchable since it does not contain scenes of terror and violence .

Called the "Landscape with Invisible Hand" (2023) it can be watched on Prime Video for example.

It's a family movie with teenagers in main roles and fun to see, for all family members

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lAD81wjRnL8

[Helvetic]

To make some progress here, this is a 28! year old article by Steven Greer and a video.

I wonder what the Barry King of 2024 has to say about this article and video. Which of Greer's statements do you agree with and which do you disagree with?

My personal question is if the story with the PLFs is true, who built them and who has control over them? Is it just the “Three Letter Agencies” or is OPI also involved? If so, which ones? Then the question is to what extent does A.I. play a role here?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=munf25ZIszY

Article:

Abductions - Not All that Glitters is Gold

by Steven M. Greer, M.D.
Copyright 1996

Click Here for PDF Version

Since the late 1970s, there has been an unprecedented focus in the UFO subculture and pop media on the subject of so-called 'alien abductions'. A constant stream of books, videos, movies, lectures and the like have served to keep this subject in the forefront of our awareness. Across America, numerous cities have self-styled 'abduction support groups', and an increasing number of therapists have begun to counsel and advise alleged victims of alien abductions.

But we have found that there is something much stranger going on than 'alien abductions', and the truth about this matter is far more bizarre than the idea of ETs taking women aboard UFOs to create babies which incubate in space.

Before exploring the really bizarre - and scary - things going on with this phenomenon, let us first state what is obvious to all but the true believers and hard-core abduction aficionados: Not all that glitters is gold, and we are dealing with a multiplicity of phenomena, not a single phenomenon, as conventional wisdom now holds.

Let no one conclude, please, that what follows is a denial of the possibility that some, rare direct human-extraterrestrial contact has occurred. It is likely that it has, but these cases are like pure gold nuggets, which have deliberately and through human folly been hidden under a mountain of fools gold. It may superficially look the same, and glitter in the same way - but the difference is vast.

Here we step into a mixture of great mystery, deliberate covert deception, unbridled human foolishness and fear-mongoring, all blended together into a belief system which, if challenged, yields the challenger attacks from a myriad of sources. I am aware at the outset that the sharing of the perspectives which follow will induce in many a reactionary response to 'shoot the messenger'. But I beg for your patience, and just a bit of open-minded inquiry, lest we forever lose those few gold nuggets among the growing mountains of fools gold.

To begin to get ones mind around this matter, one must be knowledgeable in and a student of:

the human mind, spirit and full potential of human experience, both conventional and unconventional;

the UFO subject in general;

the capabilities of esoteric and exotic covert human technologies, especially those employed by deep cover projects dealing with the UFO/ETI subject and which are using reverse-engineered extraterrestrial technologies in mind control and psychological warfare agendas;

an expanded cosmology which takes into account terrestrial and extraterrestrial capabilities and experiences, whether they be physical, mental, non-local/spiritual etc.

In looking at the raw data and reports of alleged human-extraterrestrial contact, I would estimate that fewer than 10% of such cases are what they appear to be. The other 90% of cases are a combination of the following:

Misidentification of other unusual experiences, which, due to the dominant pop culture enthrallment with all things alien, get labeled an 'abduction'. These include so-called (and mislabeled) paranormal experiences related to lucid dreams, out of body experiences, near death experiences, 'astral body' encounters with other non-human (but equally non-extraterrestrial) entities, and similar related phenomena. The need for an expanded cosmological view of potential human experience should be obvious: It is all to easy to mis-label an experience if you do not know what the possibilities are. (The reader is referred to 'Extraterrestrials and the New Cosmology' by Steven M. Greer M.D. for a more in-depth treatment of the cosmology) This is akin to a doctor having only one diagnosis for chest pain - a heart attack. Such a physician, lacking what is called an adequate 'differential diagnosis' would mis-diagnose all chest pain as a heart attack, when it could be that the person was experiencing a collapsed lung, a lung infection, a rupturing aorta, various stomach ailments which present as chest pain and so forth.

In this case, however, many researchers have 'abduction colored glasses on', and hence see most of these other unconventional experiences as abductions. Lacking an adequate 'differential diagnosis' which includes the numerous other types of possible experiences, all such experiences get labeled abductions, and the experiencer, an 'abductee'. Those looking into such experiences owe it to the experiencers , and to the field of knowledge, to be better informed regarding an expanded differential diagnosis. Otherwise, we will continue to have a majority of mis-diagnosed cases.

Confabulation, wannabees, false memory syndrome and mental illness are also part of the mixture of cases. We have learned of one celebrated abduction case where the person lied about prior serious mental illness, and another where the 'abductee' who claimed to have been impregnated by ETs later admitted to having had an affair which resulted in the pregnancy. Now, this is not the sort of thing which proponents of the UFO and abduction field want talked about. But covering up these types of errors only compounds the superstition, ignorance and disinformation which already abounds in this area of study.

Hallucinogenic drug use has been noted to exist among some self-styled 'abductees' as well as researchers. Certainly, an already murky picture is made dimmer by the intervening use of psychoactive drugs.

Most importantly, there is the significant segment of the 90%+ cases of misidentified contact events which are of decidedly covert human origins. This is the area which will be most bizarre to the reader, and most disturbing, and the majority of the remainder of this piece will concern itself with this problem.

Abductions, and the 'abduction syndrome' as it is commonly referred to, is largely a creation of covert human disinformation projects. Both the technologies employed, and the agendas motivating their use, are genuinely troubling. Most will not want to hear what follows, but we feel the time has come for the truth to come out, so that those who will listen can stop being manipulated with false information.

(For more background on the nature of covert human operations dealing with the UFO/ET matter, the reader is referred to 'Unacknowledged', by Steven M. Greer M.D.)

To understand the disinformation capabilities of current and recent covert projects dealing with the UFO/ETI subject, it is necessary to look historically at events, beginning in the 1940s (and perhaps before). The acquisition of advanced extraterrestrial hardware by the mid-1940s (Roswell 1947, Kingman Arizona 1948 etc) led to very deep covert research and development projects related to reverse- engineering extraterrestrial technologies. While most researchers in the field have focused on energy generation (zero-point) and propulsion systems used by ET vehicles to 'transfer' through interstellar space, the area of advanced extraterrestrial communications has been largely ignored. But not by covert human R&D projects.

If it is obviously true that ET spacecraft are not using jet fuel and internal combustion engines to travel through interstellar space, it should be equally true that they are not using AT&T microwave, radio wave or related electromagnetic waves to communicate. Why? Because these EM waves, which travel at the speed of light (186,000 miles per second) are too slow to effectively communicate in real time across interstellar distances. Even at the speed of light, it takes 100 earth years for a radio wave to travel only 100 light-years in distance. This means that a two way conversation with one's home planet would take 200 years, and this for only the initial exchange : "Hello, mission control, this is Alpha 1, how are you today?" "This is mission control, we are fine; how are you Alpha 1?" Unless a species lived thousands of years as biological life forms, a routine conversation could not be completed before the death of all parties!

>Therefore, the communication systems used by advanced ET life forms are employing advanced non-local technologies NOT dependent on the linear speed of light. They utilize technologies based on laws of physics not even elaborated by human scientists in the conventional, non-covert world. And these are technologies which directly interface with mind and thought.

This explains why so many individuals have seen an ET craft and then projected spontaneously a thought for it to come back, or move one way or another - and lo and behold it does. Just as a hologram or TV would look like supernatural magic to someone 200 years ago, these technological capabilities look and sound like magic to us in the latter 20th century. (And from this the reader can see why so many 'paranormal' experiences can be erroneously reported as UFO experiences, and vice versa.)

Now, a well-funded covert enterprise reverse-engineering ET technologies will look at all systems, not just ones related to propulsion and basic energy generation. Thus, as a consequence of this research, the covert entity dealing with this matter has elaborated the communications technologies of these life forms, and unfortunately have put them to some very nasty uses.

Once the ET communications technologies were discerned, a decision was made to see how such technologies could be put to use, especially for disinformation purposes. Because above all things, the project dealing covertly with the UFO/ET issue has desired continued secrecy, and a continuation of their exclusive knowledge and control of this subject.

The problem is, the UFOs continue to be seen all over the world, so this matter, in order to be secret, must be hidden in plain sight. And so it is.

One of the principles of good, effective disinformation is that you psychologically manipulate the environment so that people will not know what they are looking at, even if they see it. Another is that the creation of very similar, hoaxed decoy cases - if strategically executed and played out - will hide the real phenomenon, or at least draw peoples' attention away from the real events. And yet another is that if all else fails, and the secrecy is ended, people will be so confused about the real versus the memorex, that they will be easily manipulated to the covert project's agenda.

All of this is at play in the UFO field, and the cornerstone of this disinformation effort is the so-called 'abduction phenomenon'.

Consider this for just a moment: There is a top secret Canadian document, written by Wilbert Smith, which states that , in 1950, the UFO matter was the most secret project in the US, surpassing even the secrecy surrounding the development of the hydrogen bomb! In 1996, the secret is even bigger, and the resources used to maintain the secrecy many orders of magnitude greater than that of 1950. Moreover, the technological resources available to this covert project involve reverse-engineered ET technology, in the form of operational craft, non-linear communications capabilities, and biological 'cloned' entities. It is not hard from this to see that extraordinary resources have been used to maintain the secrecy of this subject.

Everyone in counter-intelligence knows that really good disinformation contains some elements of the truth, thereby making the false information or events more believable to the targeted recipients. In the area of alleged UFO 'abductions', by simulating false, but believable, alien encounters, a number of objectives are accomplished:

Actual ET events are lost amid the mounting cases of hoaxed, simulated cases. As mentioned earlier, the real gold nuggets get buried under a mountain of fools gold - and very few researchers know that they should be doing assays...

By overwhelming the 'sound' of actual ET events with the 'noise' of simulated ones of an increasingly implausible nature, the civilian research community is not only thrown off track by pursuing false cases, it is increasingly discredited. The wilder and more absurd the scenarios are which are fed to victims of human covert abductions, the more the general scientific and media communities view the entire field as so much nonsense. In this way, human initiated covert abductions not only serve as decoys in the UFO civilian research community, but serve to avert serious inquiry from the 'mainstream' scientific and media communities. It is a master stroke of disinformation, which the civilian community has swallowed hook, line and sinker.

The use of reverse-engineered ET communications technology for disinformation purposes via abductions and the like also allows for the testing of such systems to evaluate their efficacy and reliability. For those who believe that the testing of such 'non-lethal' weapons on the civilian population by covert operations is unthinkable, remember the covert testing of radioactive substances on innocent civilians during the Cold War. In 1993, the Department Of Energy (formerly Atomic Energy Commission) and its leader,Hazel O'Leary, released documents disclosing the fact that innocent civilians had been deliberately contaminated with plutonium and other toxic radioactive substances to simply see what the effect would be. It was reported that plutonium was actually put on the oatmeal of children in an orphanage to see what effect it would have! The same sociopathic excesses of those secret plutonium testing projects are being replayed in spades in the civilian sector with simulated ET abductions of innocent humans, so-called cattle mutilations (also largely of covert human origin) and related covert projects. We may not want to believe this, because it seems just too horrible. But the longer we live in denial, the more we will be led down the primrose path of deception and the manipulation of our minds and emotions.

Most disturbing are the apparent underlying motives and agendas driving these covert human projects dealing with abductions and the like. Aside from the deflective, decoy value described above, the content of the hoaxed human initiated abduction experience is decidedly negative, xenophobic, fear-inducing and anger-inducing. To what end? Could it be that both the 'abductees' and the millions who learn of their horrifying experiences through books, videos, TV specials and movies are being prepared to hate the 'alien presence' and thereby accept, somewhere down the road, the sacrifices needed to engage in interplanetary war? And who would benefit from such a 'star wars' scenario? The military- industrial complex. The very same interests about whom we were warned by no less a figure than 5 star general and conservative republican president Ike Eisenhower. After all, the classic uses of psychological warfare were (and are) related to preparing a civilian population to hate the enemy, and to be so animated in that direction that any sacrifice would be made to fight them. Could it be that we are now being so manipulated, so that we will collectively accept the costs of building the capability for interplanetary war - a capability which would extract trillions of dollars from the world economy?

Actually, it appears to be even worse than this.

We have learned, by investigating the ties, proclivities and beliefs of a number of people connected to abduction programs, that there is a clear aeschatological bent to their endeavors. This means that part of the agenda is serving the bizarre, religious purpose of resurrecting satan in the form of ET, and fanning the flames of a future 'holy war' against them, to coincide with the end of the world. I know this sounds bizarre and unbelievable (it was very difficult to accept when it first came to my attention) but it is one of the very deep, dark and frightening sub-texts of the entire ET issue. For those awaiting the end of the world with the changing of the millennium, what better vehicle than to frame the 'final conflict' between humanity and evil invaders from outer space? More than a few people in the UFO subculture, who present themselves as impartial scientists and / or benefactors, hold to this paradigm. And deliberate actions are being taken to fulfill it.

On one occasion, I had the opportunity to meet with a foreign head of state, who has an interest in this subject. Over the course of an hour and a half to 2 hour meeting, I learned, to my horror, that this leader was doing everything he could to see that the world knew about the evil, sinister and manipulative agenda of the 'aliens' by advancing the world's knowledge of abductions! Worse, I was categorically informed that every set-back in human history, every international conflict, and the very basis of the non-fulfillment of human potential, since Adam and Eve, was the result of the nefarious manipulations of the 'aliens' ! After mostly listening politely for an hour and a half, I let this leader know that this was not at all our assessment of the situation.

Later I learned of this person's ties to fringe religious groups, and also a network of similar leaders and benefactors of abduction 'research' which has ties to bizarre end-of-the-world religious groups, who demonize the ET presence to fit the current religious paradigm. And the anchor for all of this is the abduction 'phenomenon'.

If the reader is not concerned by now, check your pulse.

Now, it is not clear if these bizarre beliefs are fundamental to the covert programs, or simply an intended out-growth of them. That is, it is likely that these leaders and benefactors have been manipulated into this assessment by covert projects dealing with abductions and mutilations, and they have created a way to fit the 'reality' of abductions into their religious belief systems, as it pertains to the 'end times'. Such persons may themselves be victims of manipulation, and they are responding to the 'content' of the 'abduction syndrome' in a predictable way, given their religious beliefs.

Nevertheless, the deception, hoax and manipulation which all of this represents is effective, because most humans are, alas, easily deceived and especially vulnerable to manipulations of their fears of 'invasion'. Since cave man and tribal times, to the war in Bosnia of the 1990s, one of the basic fears of peoples around the world has been that of invasion, and (no coincidence) the abduction of women and children by the invaders. It is such a basic fear, that it is easily manipulated. We would suggest that this primal fear of abduction, rooted in the ancient collective history and consciousness of humanity, has been used to skillfully manipulate and inflame the fears of extraterrestrial life forms.

We have, collectively, been all too willing to take this bait.

Even the lexicon developed in the UFO subculture - the 'abduction by aliens' - is inherently xenophobic and draws sweeping conclusions about the ET presence, which are unwarranted by the objective facts. And we have learned that when others, who have done their homework on covert capabilities in this regard, have attempted to point this possibility out to the UFO community, they have been shouted down and ultimately black-balled from events. The true-believers in the abduction scenario do not want to consider that there are covert capabilities (and have been for decades) which can simulate an 'alien abduction', totally using reverse-engineered ET technologies.

How do we know about these capabilities? Research, investigation, interviewing knowledgeable people who have had involvement with these technologies, and personal experience. Over a 3-4 year period, we have interviewed individuals with top-secret clearances in areas related to electronic mind control and related technologies. What we have learned is best summarized by a statement from Officer W-1: ' Technologies exist, which are ready, off-the-shelf capable, and which can fit in a panel truck or on an antennae in a city, which can totally induce an experience.If it is desired, a targeted person - or group of people - can be made to have a conversation with their personal God, and they will believe it is real, and they will pass a lie detector that it is real, because for them it is real...'

We have identified people who recall, despite chemical 'deprogramming ' over a three day period, being in special para-military units and being 'abductors'. That is, these individuals were used to 'abduct' civilians, in an elaborate and technologically exotic hoax. These humans were the abductors, not the extraterrestrials. But the technology, reverse-engineered from the ETs, is so good, that unless one knew to look for a hoax this good, one would be forever deceived.

And yes, these projects have had the capability for decades to place 'implants' into humans (and animals) for the purpose of not only tracking and reconnaissance, but for inducing specific experiences.

>Worse yet, these capabilities have been used to 'abduct', intimidate and deceive world leaders on this subject, and to specifically get them to maintain the secret status of these programs.

Specifically, the abduction of a certain past MAJOR world leader was orchestrated by covert forces attempting to end a planned disclosure on this subject by this leader, the US President, the head of the USSR and others. A first hand witness, who is friends with this world leader and is himself a head of state, has related the details of this abduction to me personally. It was an effective, if horrible attempt to frighten these world leaders into ending their plans to disclose the UFO information to the world at the end of the cold war. Both this world leader, and the head of state and friend who related this to me, did not know that this event was done by covert human forces. They thought it was an actual alien abduction!

And the message offered to this world leader, by these hoaxed aliens? 'Cease your plans to disclose our presence to the world, or we can and will abduct every world leader involved...' How convenient. Notwithstanding the fact that in this same time frame ET craft were being seen in a massive wave in Belgium, and one would soon begin in the volcanic zone of Mexico and around Mexico City, we are to believe that the ETs would abduct a world leader to hide their presence!

This, I am told, 'blew up like an atomic bomb in the White House', and all plans to effect a disclosure on this subject were ended, forthwith and forever.

Recently, I have learned of a group of researchers who have independently identified a covert operative who was involved in 'abducting' a woman in California and who was, not coincidentally, in the security detail for the world leader the night of the 'alien abduction'. It does not take a rocket scientist to see what the agenda is here, and how all of us have been manipulated into a belief in the 'abduction syndrome', and our leaders intimidated into inaction.

I realize that this information is harder to accept than (even) the idea that we are being visited by extraterrestrial life forms. But that is the point. These secret projects are so bizarre and sociopathic, that they are their own best cover. Who would believe it? And by manipulating the images and ideas in the public domain on this subject, we are led to either disgust and rejection of the entire phenomenon, or to anger and hate toward the visitors. How convenient...

It is time for the civilian research community to get serious about this matter. We must do our homework, and ask the hard questions. We must become knowledgeable regarding what the true covert human capabilities are, and man induced abductions. We must be more restrained and cautious, and avoid sweeping, paranoic pronouncements regarding so called 'alien agendas', since the events upon which we base such assumptions may be of a very human origin.

From what we have learned from first hand witnesses to covert capabilities, covert reverse-engineering projects, and covert human abductions, we need to take another very hard look at the entire 'alien abduction' syndrome, as it is currently described. I believe that the entire data base on this matter has to be taken apart and rebuilt, using a more inclusive cosmology, which includes not only ET/Human interactions, but also, other experiences as described earlier, and, most importantly, covert human capabilities and disinformation programs.

Not all that glitters is gold, and discerning this fact, by our leaders and the public, may determine whether we are manipulated into a future of inter-planetary conflict, or instead, choose a future of rational and peaceful engagement.

For the sake of the earth, and the generations which follow us, I hope we are wise enough to choose peace.

Steven M. Greer M.D.
5 November 1996
Copyright © 1996 Steven M. Greer M.D.
All Rights Reserved.


And some pictures from the old Avalon Forum posted by THEWATCHER back in 2009.











Some more relevant informations from the old project avalon forum back in 2009:

10-31-2009, 07:15 PM

THEWATCHER
Avalon Senior Member

My inner self, my nature is i hope, kind and gentle, I will be judged on that of course, as my outer self is rather opposite at times. Thats why there never could be full total disclosure. Too many heads will roll, accountability will take out thousands of names in all fields. Do not get me wrong, accountability is vital in a fair and just World, but I cannot see Governments, the Military, Intel services, Defence contractors, Scientists, etc etc, bringing forth all the guilty parties to own up to all of the crimes against humanity perpetrated over time. I could not forgive as I expect no forgiveness in the small part I had to play in numerous ops.


11-01-2009, 08:29 PM

THEWATCHER
Avalon Senior Member

Default Re: Questions for THEWATCHER

I can mention this re 5992nd Unit. There have been occasions when both the UK and US teams were deployed in recovery ops and endured a faceoff with that nations own special ops. On one such occasion, in Alaska in 1989 a firefight ensued but no casualties resulted.

A standoff as such until the special ops withdrew and allowed the 5992nd to recovery the hardware. Different cultures require different levels of psychological treatment. Besides the 5992nd input within the program there are Government agencies and the military itself which interacts with the main media keeps the indoctrination balanced. You will note however that the negative output outweighs the positive input. Thats because of the strong input from those that require a bad, negative, hostile picture be painted re any OPI.

Fascinating that we have lined up in USA for screening on Tuesday coming, the pilot episode from ABC of their new "V"..........followed days later by (in UK anyways) of film "The Fourth Kind".



Questions for THEWATCHER
Originally Posted by olgraybear

Do they have a procedure to remove the craft brought down in other countries, or do they just take hardware from the craft. (or OPI)

Can you advise of some situations of where these units may have been deployed and utilizized.

Lastly, the social indoctrination/acclimatisation program, readying the public for disclosure, influencing Ufology research and investigations, retrieval/recovery operations - is this something that can be expected that would be done by US/UK or
will this be done in conjunction with the other nations so no one country looks like a fool?

10-26-2009, 05:58 PM #1878
THEWATCHER

Hi Mike, yes stringently controlled protocols are in place with many nations, many are ill equipped to deal with such incidents themselves.Deployment has taken place many times during the past 25 years to my knowledge, before that time I am not privy to records. Certainly mainland US, UK, Germany, Spain, Mexico, Syria, Bosnia confines, Argentina, to name a few. Specific dates and locations I would have to get clearance before I could detail.

This program has been in operation many years and most NATO countries are briefed and then deploy the program parameters for each nation. Many nations still look towards the US for first move re public disclosure but a few have initiated a form of open disclosure in the run up to formal disclosures.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Hi, very many thanks for placing that Greer article, I have read it thru a number of times and realise that Greer was trying to educate the community as well as laymen. Nothing much I can say other than he has alluded to the fact that abductions are easily conducted by military/Intel agencies, that is common knowledge within certain areas of the military and intel services but of course never admitted. I could say, as the Barry King of 2024 that Greer has maintained his views and opinions over the years, he takes data from his very many whistleblowers and contacts (his team as he refers to them)and regurgitates that data in his interviews and talks, usually appearing to be the one whom came up with that data.

Recall Greer was given copies of all my disclosures during summer of 2000. I believe he began hinting that man made aliens, his PLFs, my PGLFs, were being created and used in various scenarios around 2003/4, it was not till the 2009 Barcelona talks that he actually referred to those drones by name. Of course since then he has elaborated more on PLFs (PGLFs). Not once has he in 24 years given me any credit for being the sole initial source of this data. Greer likes to impress the community and general public with HIS revelations but will never ever quote original sources.

It would take a lot to dissect all of his article (above) all I can state here is that I agree with most of his words but feel at a loss as to why he continually relates the same thing time after time without stating his sources, but that is Greer for you. He is a showman, his ego relates to the size of this planet but he is unfortunately the main and loudest voice in disclosure, everyone relates to him and his work!.

Anyone whom has followed my disclosures over the past 30 years will notice I have never changed my data, the facts, the truths are still as they were related 3 decades ago, as they say, my story has remained the same. I thank you for those images, my photobucket account has been deleted so all those original sketches only exist in my original Voice Files as far as I know. All I will state here is I gave the ufo community, the global citizens, a peek into my World, you can either accept or deny, that is your choice.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Continuing on with current global mass immigration dangers, here are few more vids..............

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ny9xiDRneMw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zG4WKjHasxY

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9U-Y_m9Pefg

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9jodBINjgGM

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BTm0A2wHOjk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xy42Dv4HLsQ

[Agape]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7pMbd02wm0s

Helvetic, it may be that Dr Greer is shy of revealing all the information on Programmable Life Forms because from advanced ET perspective human body itself represents Programmable Life Form.
In brief we are all too dull to get to the bottom of it , in present incarnation

[SPIRIT WOLF]

WELL WELL WELL, just as warned some time ago, we ARE in the start of pure RACE WARS in this country, with much worse to come. The government, the police, the media are all pushing their two tier policing methods onto the main stream so joe blogs public now sees true patriots as far right thugs but allowing terrorists to continue unhindered. Too many vids to try and place here, just look around on social media and youtube. There is now a full blown war being staged against us UK PATRIOTS. I may not be as vocal as some but that did not stop the threats from Islamic nasty bar stewards. I'm already on a watchlist due to my past dealings in several areas that are known by all. Now I'm on another watchlist due to my calling out these nasty terrorists and upsetting the muslim ideology. WE WANT OUR STREETS BACK WE WANT IMMEDIATE DEPORTATION OF ISLAMIC TERRORISTS FROM THE UK.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EgJh5fnMHr0

[SPIRIT WOLF]

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[SPIRIT WOLF]

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[SPIRIT WOLF]

I make no apologies here for showing the state of things. I am a true 100% ENGLISH Patriot whom cannot bear to see the downgrading of my country. Also I need to show that not all citizens, patriots, are as our PM calls us 'far right thugs'. Simply look around and you will see not simply the riots created by very angry Brits but a similar surge in Islamists running around the streets causing mayhem, but of course two tier policing and media blackouts prevent the average citizen from seeing the whole picture.

True Patriots do not condone the violence we have seen around the country, gangs of violent and criminal people have infiltrated each and every protest, these individuals sit in the darkness awaiting any possible excuse to join a protest and cause as much damage as possible. Yet the true Brits get the blame. Would the media, the police, the Government call the rampaging Islamists FAR RIGHT? Of course not as they are scared of being called racist. PURE DOUBLE STANDARDS.

I'm sorry if anything I post offends anyone but that is tough I'm afraid, you take me as you find me. Straight talking as I do not believe in PC. Free speech, free thought. Take it or leave it.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

The UK is on the brink of civil war, Europe is on its knees due to uncontrolled illegal immigration. The USA will soon feel the effects on mass immigration. I urge you all to watch two films, both recent, CIVIL WAR, LEAVE THE WORLD BEHIND. Both very very poignant. I may have to say goodbye for a time soon but will return at some stage. Meanwhile stay safe one and all.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sagxKt2vpWU

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[Agape]

Least there's nothing one should add, one should be firm in his logic in establishing and holding to reasons and causes of current , accelerating rate of human migration and immigration to respective nations on the Globe.

Global traffic has multiplied ten times in past decades, 15 to 20 times from the onset of the 21st century.

After 2001 9/11, following bombardment of Iraq , Lebanon, etc. war refugees from Middle Eastern countries , honest people in most started flooding many central European cities,

simultaneously with economical and political refugees from Ukraine and other post USSR states.

There was also mass migration of refugees from Serbia, Bosna etc. after the bombardement of Sarajevo,
if I may remember ,

followed by recent wave of refugees from Syria ,

and so forth.


Since the above concerns nearly every place on globe now overwhelmed and jammed by human car traffic emitting so many toxins that you have literally recreated bigger gas chamber for you,
and our own dumbness increases further under the suffocation and lack of natural oxygen,
we are turned to rabits who require assisted feed .

There, the Sheik and the TzaR rejoice ,

they solved the problem

and can be canned after for compost.


Gods bless and be right back



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[Johnnycomelately]

Hi Barry. Best wishes for your mission. I and others await your return.

I hope you don’t mind if I make a suggestion. It’s an idea that I gleaned decades ago, that I still try to put to practice.

It’s an idea about death. The idea is that we carry on our vibe. Like we entered this physical life the same person we were when we died last time (timing of expression is like something growing). All of our self-discoveries, reflections of our true state, are I think nature’s/God’s way of tough love, with lessons that follow a pattern of order.

I affirm the idea, because it sounds right, and so I am affirming reincarnation.

So my suggestion is to cool your passion. Work hard with pragmatism, but keep your thought space positive enough to let your heart space be light.

I decided long ago that I would die happy, but it IS taking a lot of work lol. Cheers.

[Helvetic]

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
Hi Barry. Best wishes for your mission. I and others await your return.

I hope you don’t mind if I make a suggestion. It’s an idea that I gleaned decades ago, that I still try to put to practice.

It’s an idea about death. The idea is that we carry on our vibe. Like we entered this physical life the same person we were when we died last time (timing of expression is like something growing). All of our self-discoveries, reflections of our true state, are I think nature’s/God’s way of tough love, with lessons that follow a pattern of order.

I affirm the idea, because it sounds right, and so I am affirming reincarnation.

So my suggestion is to cool your passion. Work hard with pragmatism, but keep your thought space positive enough to let your heart space be light.

I decided long ago that I would die happy, but it IS taking a lot of work lol. Cheers.

I recommend this interview:

Tom Campbell | Out of Body Experiences, Afterlife & The Larger Consciousness System (LCS)

Source: my-big-toe.com

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aqC_HZayncs

Today’s guest is Tom Campbell. Tom is a Physicist and Consciousness Researcher that began researching altered states of consciousness with Bob Monroe in the early 1970s where he and a few others were instrumental in getting Monroe’s laboratory for the study of consciousness up and running.

He has been experimenting with and writing and speaking about consciousness ever since. There is a stillness about Tom, and deep inner knowing that you will experience when you listen to this conversation. Even though I have spent many years reading about and researching consciousness and time and space, this conversation and Tom’s work has forever shifted and altered the way that I understand and think about these things.

Through this vast and expansive conversation, we dive into Tom’s understanding of consciousness and answer some of the BIG questions like, Why are we here? Where do we go? Where does love fit into all of this? And a whole lot more!

I also want to say that it is OK not to agree with some of Tom’s discoveries and beliefs. In my humble opinion the truth about our existence is a multi layered reality. There are many answers that will construct the one truth. So take from this conversation the parts you need to add to your truth.

“We are here to grow up. We’re here to make good choices, and through the quality of our choices we evolve.” ~ Tom Campbell

Tom shares the work that he did with Bob Monroe in the 1970s, his first out-of-body experience, and how he can now have these experiences at will. Tom is a self-described skeptic and explains how these experiences allowed him to see what is fact and what reality, consciousness, and our purpose here really is.

We talk about what reality actually is, what those synchronicities might mean, and trying to tell you. I share a story that some of you may have heard already about a rubber ducky and how it continues to show up in my life, the life of my loved ones, and even people I’ve worked with.

He explains in great detail what happens when we die and how he knows this to be true, how we remain connected to those that have exited this reality, and how that connection changes as well. This conversation will stay with me in this life. It is truly extraordinary. You may want to listen to it a few times over because it is FULL of big ideas and concepts. -Christina Rasmussen

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Seems reaching 72 does not preclude me from being called upon, yes the little old guy from England still, I'm told, has his uses to others. I nailed my colors to the mast many years ago, the ship we are on heads to another destination, duration unknown. It has been a weird and wonderful up and down life filled at times with wonder, regrets, joy and many many shocks. Just as soon as this current business is sorted I will be back here annoying the hell out of many of you LOL. As said above, all take care and be well. Barry

[jaybee]

Posted by SPIRIT WOLF (here)
Seems reaching 72 does not preclude me from being called upon, yes the little old guy from England still, I'm told, has his uses to others. I nailed my colors to the mast many years ago, the ship we are on heads to another destination, duration unknown. It has been a weird and wonderful up and down life filled at times with wonder, regrets, joy and many many shocks. Just as soon as this current business is sorted I will be back here annoying the hell out of many of you LOL. As said above, all take care and be well. Barry

Good luck, take care..... all the best ....

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Hello boys and girls, Bazza is back in town (groan OH NO!) no word on where I've been or what I've been doing, no names no pack drill you know the score LOL

[SPIRIT WOLF]