The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

[rgray222]

The murder of Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare has been all over the news for the past week. It does appear that the murderer planned the attack fairly well but he also made some huge mistakes leaving behind a fingerprint, DNA and other physical evidence. While we don't know the motive for the murder it does appear that it might be because of a disallowed health care claim.

Every comment I have seen this week on social media about this story has been favourable towards the unknown murderer. Reddit has elevated the killer to superhero status. Social media has become a cesspool of dark humor about Thompson's pending hospital bills and the denial of insurance claims. I understand that this tragic event can be an opportunity for people to vent but the thought of cheering for a murderer seems cold and inhumane.

Here is a statement from Brian Thompson's wife;

Thompson is survived by his wife, Paulette Thompson, and two sons.

"We are shattered to hear about the senseless killing of our beloved Brian," Thompson's wife said in a statement provided to CBS News by her sister. "Brian was an incredibly loving, generous, talented man who truly lived life to the fullest and touched so many lives. Most importantly, Brian was an incredibly loving father to our two sons and will be greatly missed. We appreciate your well wishes and request complete privacy as our family moves through this difficult time."

It does not speak well of our society when people endorse murder for any reason but when an honest law-abiding man is murdered in cold blood for legally performing his job it seems particularly heinous. To my knowledge, I am not aware that Brain Thompson has been convicted of any crime, although there is an ongoing investigation regarding insider stock trading. It is going to be interesting to see how this criminal is treated if/when he is arrested.

I would love to hear people's thoughts on this subject.

[Akasha]

Not sure how he was an honest man, or (natural) law-abiding for that matter....and there-in lies the rub. People have had enough.

When the law of the land/jungle protects these gangsters, responsible for the death of thousands via refusal of valid health insurance claims because of some AI algo', it's only a matter of time before the sh!t hits the proverbial air cooling device and justice is served via a more direct mechanism.

Clif High was predicting this would happen months ago via his software and it looks as though he was right.......again. His analysis was suggesting this would become a growing trend. Time will tell, I guess.

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[Inversion]

Below is the path the shooter took after the incident.

Brian Thompson

United Health Care controversies.

Reports of increasing rates of prior authorization denials prompted investigations by ProPublica and the United States Senate, investigations which were described as a "stain" on Thompson's time of leadership by Fortune. The Senate report published by the United States Senate Homeland Security Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, focused in particular on denials for Medicare Advantage plans serving the elderly and disabled.[16] The investigation revealed that in 2019, UHC's prior authorization denial rate was 8.7%. Thompson became CEO in 2021, and by 2022 the rate of denial had increased to 22.7%. For both Medicare and non-Medicare claims, UHC declines claims at a rate which is double the industry average.

In 2021, Thompson was criticized in an open letter from the American Hospital Association regarding a plan from UnitedHealthcare to start denying payment for what it deemed non-critical visits to hospital emergency rooms. UnitedHealthcare responded by delaying rollout of the change. Additionally, under Thompson’s leadership, UnitedHealthcare began using artificial intelligence to automate claim denials, resulting in their customers either incurring significant out-of-pocket medical bills or being unable to receive needed medical treatment.

A lawsuit was filed against Thompson, UnitedHealth chairman Stephen J. Hemsley, and two other senior executives in May 2024 for alleged fraud and insider trading due to failing to disclose an antitrust investigation into the company by the United States Department of Justice and by selling stock options before the probe was made public. Data concerning these allegations and notice of its report to the Securities and Exchange Commission was initially published in the Minnesota Star Tribune in February 2024.

Google AI

Health insurance plans: Individual and family plans, Medicare plans, Medicaid plans, dental, vision, and supplemental plans

Specialty benefits: Dental, vision, and financial protection plans

Pharmacy benefits: Integrated pharmacy benefits from OptumRx

Care: Virtual care, advocacy and employee support, tobacco cessation, weight loss program, and digital access

Life insurance: Life insurance products and value-added services, such as beneficiary services, will preparation, and travel assistance

Over-the-counter (OTC) drugs: Smoking cessation products, vitamins/minerals, iron, warts, and miscellaneous

UnitedHealthcare UCard: A way to spend credit at thousands of participating stores, including Walmart, Walgreens, CVS, and Kroger

UnitedHealthcare Community Plan: A way to buy healthy foods like fruits and vegetables, meat, seafood, dairy products, and water

Accident Protection plan: A way for employers to tailor the benefit schedule and coverage amounts to pay out for over 80 common covered injuries and services

Google AI

Iron: Ferrous fumarate, ferrous gluconate, ferrous sulfate, iron polysaccharides, Niferex, and more

Magnesium oxide: Mag-Ox

Multivitamins and minerals: Centrum

Vitamins: Vitamin A, Vitamin B-1, Vitamin B-6, Vitamin C, and more

Zinc: Zinc

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[SilentFeathers]

The mostly spun/controlled narrative by the far left MSM and also being repeated on some social media sites, etc., is not by mistake or accidental.

Considering Thompson was the subject of a DOJ investigation for insider trading and fraud throws up many red flags and is really all I need to know when it comes to something much larger happening here.

I doubt this shooter was just a disgruntled employee or someone that was denied insurance coverage or payoff.

I'll be totally surprised if they capture this shooter in alive.....

[Akasha]

I'll be surprised if they catch him at all. He's probably somewhere in South America by now.

[Moemers]

this dude is quickly reaching some kind of Robin Hood status. The most interesting story of 2024 aside from the project monarch hit attempt on Trump

[Inversion]

At 09:36 this morning I heard on the radio that the shooter wrote the following on the bullet shell casings. Wouldn't they withhold that information for a court case? Does that point to a narrative being pushed like George Floyd?

abcnews

Evidence collected from the scene of the shocking shooting include shell casings with the words "deny," "defend" and "depose" written on them, according to police sources.

ABC News contributor Brad Garrett, a former FBI agent, said he believes the shooter is "trying to send a message" through the words.

[Vangelo]

Posted by Inversion (here)
At 09:36 this morning I heard on the radio that the shooter wrote the following on the bullet shell casings. Wouldn't they withhold that information for a court case? Does that point to a narrative being pushed like George Floyd?

abcnews

Evidence collected from the scene of the shocking shooting include shell casings with the words "deny," "defend" and "depose" written on them, according to police sources.

ABC News contributor Brad Garrett, a former FBI agent, said he believes the shooter is "trying to send a message" through the words.

Another potential link ... a book titled Delay, Deny, Defend: : Why insurance companies don't pay claims and what you can do about it
Bill first posted it here...

[Strat]

Honestly I don't think about it much but I'll tell you my opinion. First, regarding the murder, it's a shame. Shooting a man in the back is a bitch move. On top of that he's a father so now two kids don't see dad ever again. Holidays and his birthdays will be painful reminders for his wife and kids. On top of it if they check the internet they'll see all these cookie cutter, cold hearted, loser, repeater, drooling at the mouth jerks on the internet making jokes about it. Wonderful people. $20 says most of these jokes will be coming from the tolerant left, the same folks who made the same jokes about Trumps failed assassination attempts.

When it comes to social media it's not a surprise. I don't use social media and this is one of the reasons, it gives losers loud voices. I did have a reddit account a few years ago but I stopped going there because it's full of losers. Literally. It has incels in it. For those who don't know, 'incels' are people who are 'involuntarily celibate.' They're obsessed with sex and they can't get laid. They know they're losers and they admit it. As a result of this they have a weird way of fighting back against society and berating beautiful women.

Reddit is also pretty far left. Don't take my word this, check for yourselves. Just about every page has an LGBT flag as a top banner, even topics that have nothing to do with sexuality. Reddit sees everything through the political lens. It's tiring. You can't frequent places such as this, it's a bad influence. It doesn't matter who you are, it'll eventually rub off on you, hence why I left.

So when you bring up Reddit deifying this person I'm not surprised. That's the type of people they are.

In this world there is the 1 true grand scheme of everything. I try hard to stay in tune with this. Most people don't, especially those deep in the trenches of social media. The world loves people like Jack Doherty and Kim Kardashian, or that Hawk Tuah girl (she became popular solely because she bragged/joked about giving oral sex). Only Fans girls (and guys) get tons of money to take their close off. I live in the real world, they live in the human constructed world of slavery to ones senses. Some think it's slavery to money but that's not accurate, it's the senses. They rent happiness with cash, but don't get it twisted, they're addicted or just straight up slaves.

So they make jokes about that guy getting shot and killed. They get upvotes and that e-popularity makes them feel good. **** that dude and his kids right? In this world people will 'other' people at the drop of the hat. I think it's somewhat natural, I probably do it myself sometimes but I try not to. This kinda brings me full circle of why I don't wanna be involved with social media, reddit, all that. I don't wanna be like those out of touch, cold hearted people.

[rgray222]

Posted by Strat (here)
I did have a reddit account a few years ago but I stopped going there because it's full of losers.

That is the conclusion I reached some time ago. I also cancelled my account. I would privately think that corporate America must love people who spend a lot of time on Reddit. They are the 9-5 type of people who never want to get ahead, never want to do any extra work, live for Fridays and complain about their jobs on a wholesale level. They are the bulk of the workforce and Corporate America knows them well, they have made it an artform on how to deal with these people. They don't have the initiative to move ahead in their jobs nor do they have the courage to quit and do something they can get excited about. They will be performing the same job (maybe at different companies) until they retire.



Expert explains ‘only reason’ police are not releasing suspected CEO assassin’s identity

As the search for UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson's killer enters a fourth day, detectives across the country are working overtime to gather information that will bring the suspect to justice.

During a press conference Saturday, New York City Mayor Eric Adams seemed to imply authorities may know the gunman's identity.



"We don’t want to release that now," Adams said. "If we do, we are basically giving a tip to the person we are seeking, and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all.

"Let him continue to believe he can hide behind the mask," the mayor added. "We revealed his face. We’re going to reveal who he is, and we’re going to bring him to justice."

Holloway told Fox News Digital the intent was to protect the investigation.

Source and full story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/unitedhea...s-trying-solve

[rgray222]

Assassin's backpack found containing monopoly money

The gray backpack linked to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, which authorities found dumped in Central Park, has reportedly yielded a jacket, and some Monopoly money, but no gun.

The backpack, which was found in Central Park West on Friday, contained a jacket, according to Bloomberg. NBC News reported Saturday that Monopoly money was also found in the backpack.

The new information came as authorities began to wrap up day four of the hunt for Thompson's assassin. The businessman was shot with a suppressed pistol at around 6:45 a.m. Wednesday outside a Midtown Manhattan hotel.

Source & full story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/unitedhea...-linked-killer

[Mike]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
Assassin's backpack found containing monopoly money

The gray backpack linked to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, which authorities found dumped in Central Park, has reportedly yielded a jacket, and some Monopoly money, but no gun.

The backpack, which was found in Central Park West on Friday, contained a jacket, according to Bloomberg. NBC News reported Saturday that Monopoly money was also found in the backpack.

The new information came as authorities began to wrap up day four of the hunt for Thompson's assassin. The businessman was shot with a suppressed pistol at around 6:45 a.m. Wednesday outside a Midtown Manhattan hotel.

Source & full story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/unitedhea...-linked-killer

The entire thing feels contrived to me.

When I saw the pic of the tidy backpack sitting there all safe and sound, it evoked images in my mind of the 911 "hijackers" passports and I.D. being conveniently discovered on the streets of NY. I know, it's not nearly so improbable to find a fully intact backpack in a park somewhere, but it has the same feel to me.. for what it's worth.

And the scribbles on the bullet casings ("defend, depose, deny")...it's all too convenient. The Monopoly money? Jeez. It feels like a forced plot twist written by a second rate script writer. It all seems like one of those manufactured nucleating events, one designed to rally the woke Marxist troops against the big, bad capitalists... and to 1) normalize/justify the murder of these CEO's, and 2) spawn copycat killings.

[Moemers]

why and who would manufacture that?

[T Smith]

Injustice in society is now off the charts. I'm not surprised at all by this tragedy and would expect this is just the beginning. Desperate people will respond and retaliate. That's where we're at.

I'm sure Brian Thompson wasn't innocent (who is?); he was likely a shady and self-serving businessman, but at the end of the day he was just doing his job, which -- real world folks -- was serving the interest of the shareholders. He didn't deserve a bullet for this. You don't assassinate the CEO of a supermarket because the price of eggs are $10.00 a dozen--even if the supermarket is gouging on the margin (reality check, they're not). If you're pissed about the price of eggs, look at the lobbies, the politicians, the military industrial complex. Try to understand inflation. Look at the Federal Reserve and try to grasp how and why the world works. Don't rage against those executing the policies of the money changers.

All said, rage all you want. Robin Hood heroics and all. It's not the CEO of United Healthcare why healthcare is f*&cked and why everyday people are being delayed, denied, defended. Brian Thompson is but a cog in very corrupted and broken machine.

I don't know the man, nor his crimes. If any. But I will say this:

God rest his soul.

[Nasu]

It's either a disgruntled healthcare user, either personally or someone they know or love, or a payed for hit. But both ways, this guy made too many errors to be a pro. Catching the bus from Georgia, staying in a hostel, smoosing with the desk clerk and showing his face, catching an ebike, shooting from several feet rather than up close, leaving a burner phone in an alley, going to a starbucks.... Not the tracks of a pro.

Strange thing about his gun though, this plays into my skills and understandings, in my shooting circles it doesn't ad up, he had to cycle the gun three times, but six shots were used, three shot or spent and three ejected live, to be found later. Why?

One popular theory that is doing the rounds was it was a modern version of the ww2 wellrod, a bolt action silenced pistol, having to be re chambered and cocked each shot. The point of the wellrod or modern incarnations is it's silence, due to a lack of it's moving parts to cause noise. The "Station six" or modern version of the wellrod, keeps the gasses inside the gun until it is re primed for the next shot, not so with this shooting, clearly you can see in the footage that in the first shot at least, the shot gasses escape from the top of the weapon, a Station six or homemade copy should, if made correctly, eliminate that, so inho eliminating that type of weapon.

Second option is he is using sub sonic ammunition designed for suppressed or silenced shooting, possibly a nine or twenty two caliber, due to it being slightly under powered compared to normal rounds, it won't go as far but at short ranges will impact with enough deadly force, in order to not hit the speed of sound at 1,125 feet per second and therefore not produce a sonic crack or bang, quieting or silencing it more, it often can result in malfunctions in semi automatic weapons due to it's under powered performance and thus not cycle properly.

Option three, occams razor, his gun was broken in some way. Either a misfitting slide or magazine or feed ramp.

Aside from the wellrod scenario, the problem with the other two possibilities is his casual demeanor. He didn't glance at his weapon as it needed re priming, as is usual, instead he simply re primed his weapon casually, even when he has to hit it back into battery, suggesting he was fully expecting it not to cycle properly, suggesting not a pro but much practice on his malfunctioning platform at the very least.

However, if it were a wellrod type pistol there would be no need to expend a spare unused bullet for every one fired, which in my mind eliminates the wellrod idea. So why eject an unspent bullet for every one fired? Two potential reasons, imho, option one a malfunctioning gun he was used to overcoming or two, he intended to leave those rounds for later inspection. Perhaps, given the markings on the cases, it was his intention to leave his motive, or perhaps his misdirection of his motive, who knows.

As an aside, although poorly executed, forgive the pun, this assassination was very well timed. How did he know the ceo would turn up two hours early for this conference?

As a last aside, a ten thousand dollar reward is peanuts. Ten thousand dollars for a ceo who earned ten million plus last year, for a company that had a turnover of over four hundred billion with a twenty billion dollar profit last year. My math isn't great but that's well under 1% of his own salary, never mind imagined value to the company. A more cynical man would deduce that perhaps the company wasn't that interested in actually catching the culprit......x..... N

[Mike]

Posted by Moemers (here)
why and who would manufacture that?

To cause division and chaos. Generally speaking, that's always one of the main goals of these types of events (assuming it was manufactured).

The killer is presenting it as a political act, what with the "defend, depose, deny" written on the casings, and the monopoly money in the backpack. Any kind of political assassination is usually meant as a call to action, or at least it is with Marxist, anti-capitalist types (the monopoly money clearly suggests this type of individual). Revolution is always the name of the game with them.

I speculated in my previous post that an act like this seeks to normalize/justify these types of CEO killings, and we're already seeing that all over the internet, even among prominent journalists like Taylor Lorenz. And once normalized, it will happen again and again I suspect.

To these types of people, Brian Thompson isn't even human really - he's just a symbol of their "oppression", so his killing is entirely justified and even encouraged. Deep state goons know how to trigger these woke Marxist types, so I suspect this act was designed to do just that.

Who's behind it? "They", of course. George Soros maybe? Who knows? Some deep state goon, no doubt, trying to destabilize the west.

[Akasha]

Posted by Strat (here)
Honestly I don't think about it much but I'll tell you my opinion. First, regarding the murder, it's a shame. Shooting a man in the back is a bitch move. On top of that he's a father so now two kids don't see dad ever again. Holidays and his birthdays will be painful reminders for his wife and kids. On top of it if they check the internet they'll see all these cookie cutter, cold hearted, loser, repeater, drooling at the mouth jerks on the internet making jokes about it. Wonderful people. $20 says most of these jokes will be coming from the tolerant left, the same folks who made the same jokes about Trumps failed assassination attempts.

When it comes to social media it's not a surprise. I don't use social media and this is one of the reasons, it gives losers loud voices. I did have a reddit account a few years ago but I stopped going there because it's full of losers. Literally. It has incels in it. For those who don't know, 'incels' are people who are 'involuntarily celibate.' They're obsessed with sex and they can't get laid. They know they're losers and they admit it. As a result of this they have a weird way of fighting back against society and berating beautiful women.

Reddit is also pretty far left. Don't take my word this, check for yourselves. Just about every page has an LGBT flag as a top banner, even topics that have nothing to do with sexuality. Reddit sees everything through the political lens. It's tiring. You can't frequent places such as this, it's a bad influence. It doesn't matter who you are, it'll eventually rub off on you, hence why I left.

So when you bring up Reddit deifying this person I'm not surprised. That's the type of people they are.

In this world there is the 1 true grand scheme of everything. I try hard to stay in tune with this. Most people don't, especially those deep in the trenches of social media. The world loves people like Jack Doherty and Kim Kardashian, or that Hawk Tuah girl (she became popular solely because she bragged/joked about giving oral sex). Only Fans girls (and guys) get tons of money to take their close off. I live in the real world, they live in the human constructed world of slavery to ones senses. Some think it's slavery to money but that's not accurate, it's the senses. They rent happiness with cash, but don't get it twisted, they're addicted or just straight up slaves.

So they make jokes about that guy getting shot and killed. They get upvotes and that e-popularity makes them feel good. **** that dude and his kids right? In this world people will 'other' people at the drop of the hat. I think it's somewhat natural, I probably do it myself sometimes but I try not to. This kinda brings me full circle of why I don't wanna be involved with social media, reddit, all that. I don't wanna be like those out of touch, cold hearted people.

Re’ incels, there but for the grace of god….

From the way you reference them I’m assuming you’re not, so for the sake of argument let’s imagine your love dies through lack of healthcare she paid for because of new corporate protocols implemented by someone like Brian Thompson……

It’s easy to deride, Strat, but as I said before, there but for the grace of god…..

[Akasha]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Moemers (here)
why and who would manufacture that?

To cause division and chaos......

Well if that was the aim, it failed miserably. Perhaps you aren’t spending much time on X etc…. but judging by the posts, memes and comments, it has overwhelmingly “caused” solidarity and focus against these mega-parasites, and rightly so.

“They” would never have wanted that. “They” are now spending a large portion of their income on extra security as well as frantically deleting their LinkdIn pages and other web info'.

Their crimes have gone unpunished for time and now their f#cking around is leading to their finding out. We like to conspiratorialise (is that a word?) about everything on here, but sometimes a spade is a spade.

It’s funny because everybody is assuming this guy is on the run. Perhaps the reason he didn’t leave his gun in his backpack is because he is just getting started, and, re’ Eric Adams’s retarded comment about “him continue(ing) to believe he can hide behind the mask”, well he ain’t gonna be believing that anymore is he, Eric, cause of you and your big mouth. The police like to present this "you can run but you can't hide" idiom as a deterrent, and Hollywood faithfully endorses it, but the uncomfortable fact remains: there are many criminals on the loose.

[s7e6e]

Albert Bourla is another law abiding honest man. So are Stéphane Bancel, Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci and many many many many others.

[Akasha]

Posted by s7e6e (here)
Albert Bourla is another law abiding honest man. So are Stéphane Bancel, Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci and many many many many others.

.....and their lawyers can "prove" it every time. It's no wonder this phenomenon is emerging.