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    Default Re: The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

    I find this whole thing fascinating, especially the reaction. Like many have said, killing anyone isn't the answer, after all he was a father and a son, irrespective of his chosen career. That being said, there is zero sympathy online for this fellow. The internet sleuths are not interested in helping at all. Now the police have raised the reward to fifty grand, suggesting they might not be as close to getting him as they say they are. The reaction for me is the most interesting part of all this story, for example, healthcare companies have scrubbed their websites of bios about board members and c level individuals. The comments section to any post about this is savage. Here's a few examples:

    Why would anyone try to find the killer of a mass murderer?

    And less that 2 days later, Anthem reversed their decision to limit payments on anesthesia. So why would anyone help find the sh**ter?

    His new name is The Adjuster.

    And why is the FBI involved? It's not federal, not interstate, not serial, not kidnapping, does not involve a federal official. The ONLY thing that makes this "more significant" than the other hundreds of deletions in NYC is the wealth of the victim.

    I would just like say that we, the people, have reviewed the tape and did a thorough investigation. After countless few seconds we concluded that our citizen did nothing wrong and therefore we will be closing the investigation. We know you all will be satisfied with the decision and we collectively agree that it’s time we move on. Thank you for coming out. I will be taking no questions

    Media: "Why are you not helping?" Sleuths: "Sorry, our policy doesn't cover preexisting conditions like being a CEO of a health insurance company. Nothing we can do.”

    If he ever gets arrested and put in prison he will be treated like a king.

    Anyone else's sympathy been buffering for like days? I can't get mine to work.

    Dude took a greyhound, he's been through enough.

    Remember remember the 4th of December

    It was a “mostly peaceful protest”

    Hello United Health Care, and thank you for calling. Your call is very important to us, and a concerned citizen will be with you shortly. Please dial 9 to return to the main menu. Dial 1 for an alphabetical list of concerned citizens, or enter the extension of the concerned citizen you are seeking now if you know it. Dial 7 to dial 4. Dial 8 to hear a recording of the collective laughter of all the non-concerned citizens because if we see this man?

    they are calling him Robin Hoodie, we're living in an episode of Mr. Robot

    This is the one case the true crime girlies won't try to solve.

    Not all heroes wear capes. Some ride bikes.

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    Default Re: The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

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    • The public execution of an innocent man and father of two is indefensible, not 'inevitable.
    • Condoning and cheering this murder on says more about you than the situation of health insurance
    • Condoning murder for any reason begins to erode acceptable human norms and desensitized society to violence.
    • Condoning murder for any reason is the start of normalizing violence as an acceptable tool to resolve differences.
    • There is a strong intentional effort to drain society of compassion and empathy, and at the same make violent behavior more acceptable. This is not an American problem it is a global problem. The prevailing wisdom of those in power is that problems of this magnitude require global solutions. So many people around the world can't move beyond their emotions to understand what is happening.
    The innocent man label is a bit of a stretch isn't it?

    Given the consequences of United's policy with him at the helm, many more have died than at the hands of your average death-rower.

    I suspect this isn't so much "the start of normalizing violence as an acceptable tool to resolve differences" as it was a last resort for somebody.

    But yeah, as I said, before, not knowing the full story, there but for the grace of god go I.
    If you're cheering on the execution of Brian Thompson, you're going after the low fruit and calling it a score. Call it the lazy man's justice.

    Nobody is saying Brian Thompson was a boy scout; he's just NOT the subject of a bullet. IMO. Nor should he be.

    Brian Thompson has NOTHING to do with the injustices that would drive a vigilante to murder. I promise.

    I'm all for justice. But you gotta dig deeper than going after the family man with two kids who scored 1495 on his SAT and worked his way to the top to feed his family to run a (very corrupted) company...

    If you want real justice, look deeper.
    Re-read the posts. Many are saying he was a "boy scout" including you given your S.A.T comment.
    Everyone who takes an SAT is a boy scout? I have no idea who Brian Thompson is. I assume it takes a certain type of person without a conflict of conscience to manage the interests of shareholders. And to speak to Moemers' point about motive, I do understand the how and why of it. I'm just pointing out in my posts that a rage-driven murderous motive that requires a face to an abstract injustice is often misdirected.

    What we're discussing here is the human condition and as old as time. Let's have Shakespeare weigh in:

    "...The first thing we should do, is kill all the lawyers!"
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    I find this whole thing fascinating, especially the reaction. Like many have said, killing anyone isn't the answer, after all he was a father and a son, irrespective of his chosen career. That being said, there is zero sympathy online for this fellow. The internet sleuths are not interested in helping at all. Now the police have raised the reward to fifty grand, suggesting they might not be as close to getting him as they say they are. The reaction for me is the most interesting part of all this story, for example, healthcare companies have scrubbed their websites of bios about board members and c level individuals. The comments section to any post about this is savage. Here's a few examples:

    Why would anyone try to find the killer of a mass murderer?

    And less that 2 days later, Anthem reversed their decision to limit payments on anesthesia. So why would anyone help find the sh**ter?

    His new name is The Adjuster.

    And why is the FBI involved? It's not federal, not interstate, not serial, not kidnapping, does not involve a federal official. The ONLY thing that makes this "more significant" than the other hundreds of deletions in NYC is the wealth of the victim.

    I would just like say that we, the people, have reviewed the tape and did a thorough investigation. After countless few seconds we concluded that our citizen did nothing wrong and therefore we will be closing the investigation. We know you all will be satisfied with the decision and we collectively agree that it’s time we move on. Thank you for coming out. I will be taking no questions

    Media: "Why are you not helping?" Sleuths: "Sorry, our policy doesn't cover preexisting conditions like being a CEO of a health insurance company. Nothing we can do.”

    If he ever gets arrested and put in prison he will be treated like a king.

    Anyone else's sympathy been buffering for like days? I can't get mine to work.

    Dude took a greyhound, he's been through enough.

    Remember remember the 4th of December

    It was a “mostly peaceful protest”

    Hello United Health Care, and thank you for calling. Your call is very important to us, and a concerned citizen will be with you shortly. Please dial 9 to return to the main menu. Dial 1 for an alphabetical list of concerned citizens, or enter the extension of the concerned citizen you are seeking now if you know it. Dial 7 to dial 4. Dial 8 to hear a recording of the collective laughter of all the non-concerned citizens because if we see this man?

    they are calling him Robin Hoodie, we're living in an episode of Mr. Robot

    This is the one case the true crime girlies won't try to solve.

    Not all heroes wear capes. Some ride bikes.
    Would I be correct in assuming these comments were from X, rather than Reddit by any chance?
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    Quote Posted by Nasu (here)
    I find this whole thing fascinating, especially the reaction. Like many have said, killing anyone isn't the answer, after all he was a father and a son, irrespective of his chosen career. That being said, there is zero sympathy online for this fellow. The internet sleuths are not interested in helping at all. Now the police have raised the reward to fifty grand, suggesting they might not be as close to getting him as they say they are. The reaction for me is the most interesting part of all this story, for example, healthcare companies have scrubbed their websites of bios about board members and c level individuals. The comments section to any post about this is savage. Here's a few examples....
    I'd also like to say that the reaction is what's keeping me hovering around this story. Scrubbing websites of upper level management is certainly not what happened when DJT was shot (he's a CEO too if you'll remember).

    Does anyone have anymore esoteric news updates on this? or are we gonna keep doing what They want us doing and going after each other...

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    I say this somewhat tongue in cheek........the assassin was either heavily invested or an owner of a security company because this was one of the inevitable outcomes of his action. The change people want will never come from murder the change can only be made through the actions of Congress or the Executive branch. If this was truly about denial of a claim then it is a misguided effort to force change. It may have temporarily elevated the discussion but it will not result in change. This story will be forgotten in time.

    Top security firm inundated with calls after execution of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson — as CEOs fear for their lives


    This undated photo provided by UnitedHealth Group shows UnitedHealthcare chief executive officer Brian Thompson. (AP Photo/UnitedHealth Group)

    A private security firm used by several Fortune 500 companies says its phones were “ringing off the hook” with potential clients following the execution of UnitedHealth Group CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan — as top business leaders fear for their lives.

    Allied Universal, which provides private security services to 80% of Fortune 500 companies, was flooded with frantic inquiries after the shocking Midtown assassination on Wednesday, Glen Kucera, who runs Allied’s enhanced protection services, told the New York Times.

    Kucera said the company offers a wide range of security services, including stationing guards outside offices and chauffeuring executives — but it comes at a high cost.

    A company will have to dish out about $250,000 a year to protect a chief executive full-time, he said.

    The vast increase in calls to the firm comes as dozens of Fortune 1000 chiefs will descend on Manhattan to attend a summit at Midtown’s Ziegfeld on 54th Street, not far from where Thompson was gunned down by a masked gunman outside the Hilton hotel.

    The murder, a suspected targeted hit, has led many health care leaders to question why Thompson was walking the streets solo the morning he was killed.

    The head of a private security firm who previously provided bodyguards to Thompson was perplexed by the 50-year-old’s lack of security while walking through Manhattan.

    “I assure you, that company does have an internal security team and staff,” Philip Klein, the head of Klein Investigations, told The Post Thursday.

    “I know they do, they get a lot of threats from people who have been turned down, a lot of threats due to the cost of health care.”

    Source and full story: https://nypost.com/2024/12/06/us-new...r-their-lives/
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    Default Re: The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    • The public execution of an innocent man and father of two is indefensible, not 'inevitable.
    • Condoning and cheering this murder on says more about you than the situation of health insurance
    • Condoning murder for any reason begins to erode acceptable human norms and desensitized society to violence.
    • Condoning murder for any reason is the start of normalizing violence as an acceptable tool to resolve differences.
    • There is a strong intentional effort to drain society of compassion and empathy, and at the same make violent behavior more acceptable. This is not an American problem it is a global problem. The prevailing wisdom of those in power is that problems of this magnitude require global solutions. So many people around the world can't move beyond their emotions to understand what is happening.
    The innocent man label is a bit of a stretch isn't it?

    Given the consequences of United's policy with him at the helm, many more have died than at the hands of your average death-rower.

    I suspect this isn't so much "the start of normalizing violence as an acceptable tool to resolve differences" as it was a last resort for somebody.

    But yeah, as I said, before, not knowing the full story, there but for the grace of god go I.
    If you're cheering on the execution of Brian Thompson, you're going after the low fruit and calling it a score. Call it the lazy man's justice.

    Nobody is saying Brian Thompson was a boy scout; he's just NOT the subject of a bullet. IMO. Nor should he be.

    Brian Thompson has NOTHING to do with the injustices that would drive a vigilante to murder. I promise.

    I'm all for justice. But you gotta dig deeper than going after the family man with two kids who scored 1495 on his SAT and worked his way to the top to feed his family to run a (very corrupted) company...

    If you want real justice, look deeper.
    Re-read the posts. Many are saying he was a "boy scout" including you given your S.A.T comment.
    Everyone who takes an SAT is a boy scout? I have no idea who Brian Thompson is. I assume it takes a certain type of person without a conflict of conscience to manage the interests of shareholders. And to speak to Moemers' point about motive, I do understand the how and why of it. I'm just pointing out in my posts that a rage-driven murderous motive that requires a face to an abstract injustice is often misdirected.

    What we're discussing here is the human condition and as old as time. Let's have Shakespeare weigh in:

    "...The first thing we should do, is kill all the lawyers!"
    Not to get too stuck in the weeds (again) T, but SAT takers are extremely synonymous with boy scouts in this context because of their typical respective ages: they are both still effectively children.

    This kind of portrayal attempts, but fails, to whitewash the character of the individual concerned.

    His SAT was along time ago, when he was a kid. Simply not relevant to the crimes, and they were crimes, that he and his associates have committed many, many years later.

    That they haven’t been prosecuted is more a reflection on the ineffectiveness / collusion of the US legal system, and IMHO why someone may well have decided to mete out justice on a more direct and personal level, assuming it wasn’t that wiley ‘ole Sörös and his underground army of crack-shot crack-heads.

    Re’ Shakespeare:


    No doubt in my mind that if Bill, god rest his soul, were still with us, this story would have become centre stage in his repertoire faster than you can say U.H.C.
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    copying this response here

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    Quote Posted by Moemers (here)

    https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1866035045070442633




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    Elon is a primary contributor to why we still have free-from-government suppression speech in this country.

    Lumping him in with a Healthcare Insurance CEO in terms of contributions or damage to society is bull****, in my opinion.
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    https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1866090704541250040



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    The death of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has some strange coincidences

    - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was in the middle of a federal lawsuit for INSIDER TRADING and fraud
    - Here he is saying he works with NANCY PELOSI to get grants
    - Nancy Pelosi traded on inside information right BEFORE UnitedHealthcare had a huge data leak
    - Nancy Pelosi bought Palo Alto shares right BEFORE United Healthcare announced their recent security breach
    - Palo Alto Networks is a cybersecurity company partnered with UnitedHealth Group to secure their systems after a cyberattack

    I’m sure these are all huge coincidences
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    Default Re: The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    copying this response here

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    Quote Posted by Moemers (here)

    https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1866035045070442633




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    Elon is a primary contributor to why we still have free-from-government suppression speech in this country.

    Lumping him in with a Healthcare Insurance CEO in terms of contributions or damage to society is bull****, in my opinion.
    im not sure what you're trying to say here?

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    I am saying it appeared to me that in your meme you were lumping in Elon as a CEO who should be afraid for his life, and is responding as if he is.

    Like the X users here who basically saying that with their likes of this X post.

    (X users who likely could not even express that opinion on twitter before Elon, unless it was a government/FBI approved-supported narrative.)

    If I am misinterpreting your intent/meaning I apologize.
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    if they didnt do anything wrong they dont have anything to be afraid of, right?

    anyone got any other updates on this instead of us calling each other cynical all day lol

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    I posted an update in my previous post
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    if they didnt do anything wrong they dont have anything to be afraid of, right?

    anyone got any other updates on this instead of us calling each other cynical all day lol
    Well that's pretty cynical in an of itself, in my view.
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...hoo-rcna183443

    hmm...

    idk part of me thinks this is a controlled information thing, like a practice psyop run to test some new equipment and see where the general populous is at.

    if, in the midst of all the surveillance being unrolled in cities and all around us, this guy gets away and it's this difficult for LEO to find him it says a lot about the efficacy of said techno-web...

    i guess we do have to go through cyberpunk before we get to solarpunk

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    I think this may be part of the military theater operation running on TV & online. X wasn't bought by "Elon"; it was seized by POTUS 45 in his EOs 13818 & 13848. There is a massive military intelligence theater operation to gradually reveal massive corruption in govt, media & corporations without enraging, frightening or despairing the public. It is also part of the re-training of the public to oversee their government and demand accountability of those who serve them. As part of that, I think they may be either using this event to do so or actually staging all or some of the events. These specialists may be those doing so and they "got game":
    https://www.soc.mil/4thPOG/4thPOGhome.html

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    Your cross-reporting of this from X is absolutely spectacular. I'm not sure how many realize who is running X at the moment, but it is a main posting hub of the military operation currently revealing all the corruption on Earth for the past seven years. So, the content in events like the hit on Thompson as well as most everything else with a significant thread there is a great share with people on a site with content like Avalon.
    Very, very nicely done. And consistently. Thanks so much...

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    Cue the ad-homs. Q.E.D.
    Cue the lunatic playing the victim.
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    Default Re: The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

    Apparently police in Altoona, Pennsylvania have taken into custody a person of interest in the shooting of the United Health care CEO. The person was spotted by a civilian who recognized the suspect from a wanted poster, inside a McDonald's, where the suspect was arrested with a similar firearm on them. If true, this means this guy is absolutely not a pro, why wasn't laying low and getting rid of the gun? Now we'll see if they actually get the fifty grand or not....x..... N

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    Default Re: The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

    Here is link to Mile's Mathis' take, just for the interest of it.
    https://mileswmathis.com/brian.pdf
    (The whole thing does have a scripted feel)
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    Default Re: The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

    Quote Posted by Moemers (here)
    the pearl clutching going on here is pretty interesting...
    Far more interesting (and disturbing) is the utter lack of basic humaneness.

    You don't think Thompson should have been murdered, you don't think anyone should be murdered ..but it's not all that tragic that he was...because.. why again?? Because he hypothetically refused to cover some hypothetical person's medical bills who then hypothetically suffered? (who hypothetically then hired a hitman to kill him).

    We still have no idea what happened LOL. But it's okay that Thompson died because (in Incredible Hulk voice): "CEO bad!!!!! Healthcare company bad!!!" This is the argument that's being made, and anyone who takes issue is a "pearl clutcher"? Whew.

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