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    Default Altered states of consciousness - Sufi

    They can be achived by continuous swirling that promotes a state of meditation.
    This is a sample shown in a public performance. The real deal is in a protected enviorenment.
    Dance and meditation are close to my heart because I was a professional dancer and a meditation fã for years .
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    RUMI - A SUFI MYSTIC


    Only Breath

    Not Christian or Jew or Muslim, not Hindu

    Buddhist, sufi, or zen. Not any religion

    or cultural system. I am not from the East

    or the West, not out of the ocean or up

    from the ground, not natural or ethereal, not

    composed of elements at all. I do not exist,

    am not an entity in this world or in the next,

    did not descend from Adam and Eve or any

    origin story. My place is placeless, a trace

    of the traceless. Neither body or soul.

    I belong to the beloved, have seen the two

    worlds as one and that one call to and know,

    first, last, outer, inner, only that

    breath breathing human being.



    From Essential Rumi

    by Coleman Barks


    Not Intrigued With Evening

    What the material world values does

    not shine the same in the truth of

    the soul. You have been interested

    in your shadow. Look instead directly

    at the sun. What can we know by just

    watching the time-and-space shapes of

    each other? Someone half awake in the night sees imaginary dangers; the

    morning star rises; the horizon grows

    defined; people become friends in a

    moving caravan. Night birds may think

    daybreak a kind of darkness, because

    that's all they know. It's a fortunate

    bird who's not intrigued with evening,

    who flies in the sun we call Shams.
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    A video that explaines how to do it...FOR BEGINNERS




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    Swirling is one of the 5 Tiben Rites exercises. I try, but puke and turn green. How does anyone spin around and around without becoming nauseated?

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    Practice
    Today a man on acid realized that all of matter is merely energy condensed into a slow moving vibration, that we are all one, and there is no such thing as death. Life is but a dream.
    Here's Tom with the weather.....
    -Bill Hicks

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    EHEHEHEH !

    Yes, it is one of the 5 Tibetans...but without focussing your eyes in a fixed spot and with a little bit more «coreografy » with the palm of one hand up connects you to the sky and the other palm down, with the earth.

    My advice is to start twirling very slowly and just enough times to get you centered in the heart....If you wacht the 2 video until the end , it will give a good idea that the dance is very soft and slow.


    The twirling is great to put your aura spinnning and energises your chacras. Try visualizing the 7 colors, one at a time, bathing your aura in beautiful light colors.......

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    The most interesting thing I've managed to research and come up with on the material 'Salvia divinorum', is that when people come out from underneath it's influence..if they be of the psychic type... they catch the edge of the 'fractal layering' of dimensional and temporal existence as they come back to the 'here and now' and they come 'up' in a SPIRAL, and it is always the exact same direction and orientation. For everyone..
    Interdimensional Civil Servant

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    Hello Carmody ! ........What is the Salvia Divinorum material... the plant ?

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    I drank it down in one
    and collapsed intoxicated by purity.
    Ever since, I can't tell if I exist or not.
    Sometimes I know the bliss
    of the I that looks through my eyes.
    Other times my habits dump me back in the s**t.
    But then there it is - that aroma once again.
    I'm returned to the Rose Garden.

    Rumi
    (and Shams)
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    Thank you MariaDine, it's so beautiful. I too love dance ( and meditation ) , especially all kinds of sacred dance . I feel it's one of the most extatic ways to experience the sacred union..

    I also met a group of Sufis once on my ways in India, they were originally from Iran. They were seeking asylum in India I believe running away from the oppressive regime in their country.
    They've introduced me to one of the most beautiful devotional music in old Persian I've ever heard, just sorry that I did not ask for copy of the cassette that time.

    We did this kind of 'whirling' as kids for competition as who will fall of the last I did not get dizzy that time and enjoyed the spin till all world was swirling in colors around me even after I fell on bed .

    From much later experience with dance I know it's important to keep ones focus on hand(s). It's one of the secrets of old shamans when they go to trance and wake up again,
    you are adviced to look at your palms . And keep unaltered awareness in them during the movement.



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    I searched for a thread about sufism,and only this one from 2010 appeared.So i will use this thread to post some video's with knowledge & wisdom from shaykhs-(spiritual teachers) of different sufi orders. Here is one posted today by Shaykh Nurjan. "They Enter Through Electronics and Feed on Your Smell " - 14 Dec 2024 #energy #sufism #highvibrationbeings
    In-depth look into the Jinn Universe. Their food sustenance is the "steam", scent and emotional energy you give off. They are attracted to body movements such as dancing or ritualistic motions, which generate energy that they feed on. All Electronic equipment and appliances serve as portal gateways, allowing these beings to travel into your home or workplace.

    Interesting Points in the Sohbat:
    Cover your head and body, like you cover food to repel jinn beings.
    Keep bones like spine intact for Aqiqah, bury it.
    Recite 3x Qul and giving salams when entering home for Rizq and Sustenance to be protected (at minute 44).
    Sugar diets benefits the malevolent jinn.
    Oud, Esfand and Salawat sounds can counter their approach.
    Malls and shopping centers are a battle zone with evil jinn.
    Inappropriate Dancing or erratic movements draws demons towards you.
    Gog and Magog as 1000s of Jinn Nations
    Salah gives energy to the good beings.
    Zikr counters their energy suction.
    Women give off more energy.
    Wudu and Sunnah attire defends you against them so you don't fall prey to them.

    Video Chapters :
    00:00 This knowledge require meditation and an alive heart, they don’t need to give you daleel (proof)
    02:23 Heavenly Knowledge is free and empowers you. Negative side keep you enslaved through ignorance
    05:08 Our battle is with the realm of the Jinn (unseen beings), they don’t want us to know about energy realities
    08:16 The takfiri madhab are dominated by shayateen (devils), that’s why they attack every post
    09:20 Every electronic device and music is a portal for the negative jinn to move and come through
    11:44 They are ten times mankind + Gog Magog are 2 nations each within them 400,000 nations
    13:50 These creatures eat through breathing energy + Why Prophet ﷺ advised to leave bones for them
    15:38 Why we cover our food in Islam? To stop them contaminating and taking its energy
    17:15 Fungus and bacteria on bread is because they took from its life force
    18:59 They come over people and breath out their life force, leaving them ill and with damaged cells
    20:11 Combat devils in the blood through fasting + cutting on high sugary diet inspired by them
    20:50 Covering protects you from them feeding off of you, those who uncover age faster because they’re being eaten
    25:06 Restrict breathing of negative beings through putting oudh and burning esphand (wild rue seed)
    27:15 7 Categories of heavenly beings come through Live Zikr, Dalail ul Khairat and rid of negative beings
    28:55 The beard, ring, ‘asaa (cane) are all energy realities which combat negative energy
    32:10 Sacred movement of salah (Daily prayer) + how the huroof of salah dress you
    36:40 The angels are encompassing and everything is being blessed in the associations of zikr
    38:20 Inappropriate movement from women summons bad jinn and increase desire of everyone
    42:25 Wudu (ablution) and tayammum (act of dry ablution) burn and rid fire of shayateen (devils)
    43:07 Mu’min (believing) jinn are what fight these negative jinn, keep manners so they stay in your house to protect

    The Muhammadan Way is home to world-renowned Sufi Muslim teacher Shaykh Nurjan, exploring traditional Islamic realities and sciences of the soul.

    Gift To Shaykh: https://smcmerch.com/products/gift-to...

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    And today came out this interview ;
    -'The Sufi Way: A Conversation with Shaykh Burhanuddin ' --13 Dec 2024 #sufism #sufi #dervish
    “There is no religion, no belief, greater than Life.” These simple words sum up Shaykh Burhanuddin’s teaching, the main intentions of which are to get to know oneself and to bring spirituality into one’s daily life. In his teaching, Shaykh Burhanuddin combines methods from his Sufi Tradition with contemporary knowledge of psychology. As an appointed Shaykh (spiritual guide), he was trained to develop an eye to detect the expressions of beauty in life, whatever shape they may take. He was also taught gratitude for everything that he had and didn’t have, and an unshakable, joyful faith that everything — good or bad— comes from the same Loving Source, bringing a message and lesson for our evolution. For over thirty years he has been helping people to remember their own origin, destination, and their task on this Earth. In this conversation with Juliana Cesano, National Secretary of The Theosophical Society in America, Shaykh Burhanuddin will discuss the many aspects of the Sufi tradition, including the practice of remembrance, how to awaken the intelligence of the Heart, the path of Love, the role of the teacher, personal anecdotes, and more.

    Il Cammello Sul Tetto (The Camel on the Roof): https://amzn.to/4fkaUKR
    Il Derviscio Metropolitano (Metropolitan Dervish): https://amzn.to/3ZpKK36
    Il Sufismo (Sufism): https://amzn.to/3ZEj9N7

    Shaykh Burhanuddin Herrmann is a contemporary mystic of ancient tradition, called onto the Sufi path at a young age. He went through the classic dervish training under the direct guidance of the Master, and received direct transmission of the Naqshbandi Sufi Order, one of the most ancient and authoritative of the many existing Sufi Orders. Today, Shaykh Burhanuddin leads spiritual meetings and retreats worldwide in service of people’s spiritual needs. In addition, he is the author of three books: Il Cammello Sul Tetto (The Camel on the Roof), Il Derviscio Metropolitano (The Metropolitan Dervish) and Il Sufismo (Sufism). He is also a musician and the founder of the Dervish Orchestra.

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    Another brief introduction (and teachings) into sufism from the order of Hazrat Inayat Khan by his grandson

    'Pir Zia Inayat Khan | The Elemental Purification Breaths Taught by Hazrat Inayat Khan'
    2 May 2021
    '“Meditation(s)” is a series of virtual talks and conversations with invited contemplative practitioners. Our hope is to explore the depth and diversity of meditation practices beyond what appears in popular culture. While we celebrate the “utilitarian” focus on meditation techniques resulting in effects from wellbeing to performance enhancement, our hope for this series is to illuminate the audience on the original intent of such practices, aiming for alleviation of suffering, bliss, and freedom.'

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    Inayat Khan & Universal Sufism

    --60 min---9 Dec 2024 #mysticism #sufism #inayatkhan
    'A long awaited episode, in which we finally talk about the important and controverisal 20th century sufi Inayat Khan and the Sufi Movement that he started in the West.' -Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    1:45 Early Life, Family & Music
    6:55 Entering the Sufi Path
    10:10 Last years in India
    11:56 Sufism & The Chishti Order
    16:57 Traveling to the West & Early Murids
    21:37 The Sufi Order/Movement
    24:50 Love, Harmony, Beauty
    26:28 The School of Love
    30:23 Divine Music
    33:29 Ibn 'Arabi & The Akbari School
    36:36 Universal Sufism?
    40:19 Practices, Principles & Universal Worship
    46:48 Women & Noor Inayat Khan
    50:15 Final years
    53:07 Legacy & Later Sufi Movement/Inayti Order
    57:30 Conclusions

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    And the son of Inayat Khan,Pir Vilayat Khan.
    -"The Experience of God" - The Sufi Circle - Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan - NY, 1974 - #Sufism
    -

    Sufi Circle Part-7 - "The Experience of God & Your Eternal Being"

    00:15 - Story of the Moths & the Candle
    02:00 - The Experience of God
    04:40 - Can’t transmute the Ego - you must give it up all together
    06:30 - You can’t experience reality, you must be reality
    10:00 - To experience God you must die
    14:30 - The I am that I am
    17:30 - Not to think as oneself as one who experiences.
    19:30 - Archetype of your Eternal Being

    Vilayat Inayat Khan was a teacher of meditation and of the traditions of the East Indian Chishti Sufi order of Sufism. His teaching derived from the tradition of his father, Inayat Khan, founder of The Sufi Order in the West (now named the Ināyati Order), in a form tailored to the needs of Western seekers. One of his sisters was Noor Inayat Khan GC MBE. He taught in the tradition of Universal Sufism.

    It was Pir Vilayat’s contention that meditation was a science, and as such, it must continually advance. His own methodology, while grounded in the Sufi tradition of his father, was informed by Buddhism, yoga, and alchemy, and reinforced with insights from physics and biology.

    In the course of his long life, Pir Vilayat initiated thousands of mureeds and spread his father’s Sufi Message far and wide. Despite many hardships, he radiated joy to the last. On June 17, 2004, he died in the Oriental Room of Fazal Manzil.

    On hearing of Pir Vilayat’s passing, His Holiness the Dalai Lama wrote, “I have much admiration for him. His passing is a great loss, especially for those who not only follow the spiritual path, but also believe in tolerance for other religious traditions.”

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    'The Sacred Path Through 2025 | Sufi Master's Message' 50 min- 24 Jan 2025 #sufism #sacredknowledge #naqshbandi
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    Thank you for keeping this Thread alive Gini! For some reason it had bypassed me and so I'm glad you've brought it to our attention. There's some really good stuff to get into here. Thank you! xx

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    Amazing!

    I have been wondering about this type of dance recently in the context of all the interesting ideas about vortex implosion, sacred geometry and plasmoids that are discussed on this forum.

    I may have to go into a spin myself soon to see what happens...

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    Quote Posted by gini (here)
    'The Sacred Path Through 2025 | Sufi Master's Message' 50 min- 24 Jan 2025 #sufism #sacredknowledge #naqshbandi
    Embark on a sacred journey through the veils of 2025 with Naqshbandi Sufi master Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee. In this profound transmission, he unveils ancient wisdom for modern times, exploring the mystical dimensions of consciousness, divine love, and humanity's spiritual awakening. Essential guidance for seekers walking the path of inner transformation.

    #sufism #sacredknowledge #naqshbandi #spiritualawakening #LlewellynVaughanLee #sufi

    Watch our most popular Sufi series here:
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    Welcome to the channel !
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    This man is really interesting. This is an excellent discussion. Sometimes it feels we are constantly swamped with online content, but every once in a while there's a gem that pops up when you least it expect it! If anyone else happens upon this thread, I highly recommend watching this. Once again thank you Gini.

    P.S, just an observation - look at the spark and expression in this man's eyes when he's talking compared to say, the dead soulless expression in the eyes of Netanyahu.

    He must be doing something right!
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