The Reincarnation Trap

[Bo Atkinson]

Hello Keyholder,

I understand the the background and the difficulties, (as a 60’s generation person). I hated and suffered consequences of other varieties. Location and close contacts also dealt other cards. In the north east coastal area of the USA, i managed to slip between hard edges of scientology and head trippers, (which irritated all the professing contenders). I doubt there was a perfect detour, to the madness in this world.

As a do-it-yourself type, i gravitated to a stranded-island goal, in life, to find truth and freedom. According to DH, Twitchell’s books, (and plagiarism) was yet something more surprising, than Lane himself has considered possible. I appreciate his www writings and feel Lane, unknowingly perhaps, plays a vital role, but in a much larger situation, than he expresses. I doubt it would help scholars to consider such things, as the ivory tower requires certain “professional standards”, for employees and their retractable credibility.

I am just now retreading some lacking parts of my self eduction. In the 1960s, i glossed over Sanskrit sources. Instead i put greater efforts towards integrating scientific with world wide religious and artistic thinking. Ha ha, this is challenging, but i too, moved on, steadily. I want to elaborate on DH’s history, but add just a little for now.

If assurance that names can be stated, regarding all such “truth productions”, I have no fear to mention full author and org names, (along with expanded terminologies and links). For now, this quick brushing over is just introductory.

DH has a much deeper relation to Twitchell, than academia can generally penetrate. Our controlled schools discredit realities like telepathy, reality- simulators, multiverse and enlightened technologies. Despite that electronic telepathy is partly demonstrated. Besides there exists an understandable fear, that this tech could find it’s way into higher court systems, to really solve high crimes. Also, that free energy might explode the world with madmen, shooting off wildly, under re-stimulated traumas.

Much writing is needed with these subjects, but again I will attempt to abbreviat with a short word by DH. He lately refers to Paul as ‘Pall’, in order to emphasize a higher role being played out on earth. Surprisingly happening with the likes of that org which Pall founded. The San Mat players from the other side, (The Real Far Country, where Paul now operates). . . DH says, have set up the situation, through Pall to provide inroads, to our stodgy world, which only listens to promoted commotions, rather than by searching deeper consciousness for truths. DH elaborates on this in NU Book 9.

I was unaware of any of this stuff until September of last year. I avoided corporate styled truths after scientology, (as a distant part time student, from 1967-1978). So I missed Pall’s religion until all this came through to me, through NU books, www media and Skypes. My critical take comes through dream symbols, which frankly were vital to carry on with any of this. To make contacts with something beyond the confines of mind. To fill in a couple of missing steps, in the rock stairway, which i largely built through my long life travels. My head was already full of so many -ologies and -isms. My heart was searching for organic solutions. My gut was already telling me, that this planet is literally finished. My intuition was glad to try anything potent.


Addendum: As of June 2018, I am seeing a whole new side of the NU Presentation:
http://harmoniouspalette.com/Blog2018.html#june2018

[Merlinus]

Entering the light after you die, leads to the never ending reincarnation cycle .

TRICK OF THE LIGHT: THE LIGHT & TUNNEL TRAP

http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/light.shtml

[ExomatrixTV]

• The Reincarnation Trap - David Icke:

[TrumanCash]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

• The Reincarnation Trap - David Icke:

THE REINCARNATION TRAP

So glad to see this subject going mainstream.

Yes, David Icke is correct on this subject. I covered this subject in 1996 in my second book, THE EYE OF RA. This is at the core of the matrix in which we Earth humans live.

I see this thread started with IN5D articles. I wrote an article about this in 2015 on IN5D here: https://in5d.com/past-life-research-...eveals-matrix/

I also posted this on Gab this morning: https://gab.com/TrumanCash I only make posts on Gab and Avalon.

Icke's video is also on Rumble: https://rumble.com/v26fhya-david-ick...tion-trap.html

I uncovered this phenomenon through extensive past lives regressions (without using hypnotism) which eventually opened up the between lives areas that revealed the reincarnation manipulation by extra-terrestrials.

By effectively blocking memories and creating illusions these ETs have remained hidden from view. This is all exposed in THE EYE OF RA.

You can download my books free from my "Matrix Revealed" thread here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...ysis-Solutions
The chapter that I cover this specific subject is "IN-BETWEEN LIVES IMPLANTS &: OUT OF BODY ABDUCTIONS that starts of page 98 of the PDF.

[Michi]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

• The Reincarnation Trap - David Icke:

Very good catch, John. This fits also well to the I think there's blanket Mind Control in operation thread.

[palehorse]

Here is something interesting that happened in the last few days, wife had a vision of her deceased father, he came to her but she could only see his hands and the old ring he used to wear.. it is a unique ring made by himself, there is no copies and no way anyone has the same ring, that was proof enough to her who was the mysterious man in her vision.

The second part of it, he was walking fast robbed as a monk (which he was for a few years) and reaching the mouth of a cave, she was following him, when he turned and told her to no follow him, to go back now, that's when she saw his face, she stopped and watch he gets into the cave which was on fire, he disappeared inside that cave.

She was crying when I saw her and I asked why she refused to tell first, but I insisted to know and that's it folks, she said it was so real, just like real life, an hologram in front of her.

I asked her if I could share it, she said it is ok.


p.s. I am not sure if I am on topic here, but I felt it is the correct thread to share such things.

[Franny]

Another point of view of reincarnation and why it might be advisable to exit.

Podcast guest 692 is guest Howdie Mickoski. during this podcast we talked about why we should not reincarnate, soul traps and his own death experience. Howdie Mickoski is the author of several books including: Exit the Cave-Ending the Reincarnation Trap, Exposing the Expositions, Falling For Truth, and The Power of Then. For over 25 years he has been exploring the subjects of the nature of reality, philosophy, ancient wisdom and history, as well as ideas of the shaman, far east, alchemy and hermeticism.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dePWFZawYe0

[lisalu]

This is a subject that has had my attention for a very long time. Carlos Castaneda and Robert Monroe planted the seed in my mind years ago. And then this recent tricked by the light thing came about and now we see quite a few people going down this road. It's not a subject that you can talk about to most people so I keep it to myself. I will try to link a YouTube channel that I follow, he has a ton of videos and most of them are very long. I'll post a short one for you here. I'm self employed and work alone so I have the luxury of listening to whatever I want all day long.
Howdie Mickoski has a lot of interviews/ videos out there on this subject. His latest book, Exiting the Cave is worth the read. I'll also link a couple of other researchers on this subject. There's no real answers but there sure are a lot of questions. I look at it from every angle possible. This realm just gets more insane every single day and it seems like it is by design.

https://www.overwatchproject.com/

https://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/index.htm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MyjfHb_Csk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-MyjfHb_Csk

Forever Conscious Research Channel

[Open Minded Dude]

Since Monroe was mentioned above I think this should not be missing here.

Here is the TMI talk where he explains that reasons why we are here and how deep we are trapped are different from soul to soul because we come here with different 'backgrounds'.

Examples are: curiousity (as it was in his case), on the run and hiding from other energy systems (that baffled me!), some are being 'paid' to be here and sent to do sth (also baffling for me), the missionary type (today we call them 'starseeds' ), even s.o. wanting to help a friend (and getting enmeshed too), and some more.

It is true: All can get enmeshed somehow and then the 'escape velocity' is missing, but it is also said that some get 'human junkies' and really want to come back for another round out of their own will.

Personally I do not believe in a 'set-up' by evil entities, aliens or who/whatever. It might be or have been an educational place but it might have been messed up a little. Or it is intended to be messed up for the most difficult learning experience you can have (meaning all the lives you lead not just one).
I also think to 'escape' - if you 'want' to - you will have to align yourself with your highest essence (Higher Self, or Source itself) to gain the 'escape velocity' that will suffice.

Here is the first two parts where he mentions it already, (altogether it is more, very watchable if you ask me):

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GSBM7Qeo5bg

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nEMzONZupCA

[Open Minded Dude]

Btw, In part 3 he talks about that those who are 'graduates' (or escapees?) of the Earth systems are 'gods' in other energy systems because of what they learnt. Especially because we learnt to manipulate energy in a low-density environment. It is a training ground (prison or not, most of us DO train here).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZO2m6jj2-jk

[ExomatrixTV]

• The Biggest Conspiracy Ever Created - The Reincarnation Trap ... David Icke:

@5:30 "You can sense thought, and you can feel vibes coming off the people. You are feeding energy to that lower astral" Yes. Have you thought how difficult it is for random people to make a difference between victims and perpetrators in this kind of reality? Like in a case when somebody has been selected as target for harassment by narcissist? People sense the "bad vibes" from the victim and the "good vibes" from the abuser (who gets them bc to having sadistic tendencies). They get their supply of loosh by torturing that victim. Others then feel and misinterpret their sick satisfaction being as "good vibes". I believe, that's the exact mechanism how gang stalking happens and why it escalates so easily to a bigger problem, when ppl. Who have no clue, are taking part in torture rings. Situations get worse when naive ppl. Think they are doing the right thing by avoiding those who suffer under, for example, online torture, and by that avoidance, they are creating more real life problems and punishments to victims. Not necessary by doing anything, but modifying their own actions towards the victims and ignoring their suffering, by NOT doing anything. By looking to another direction ... and let victims suffer alone. That's the way trusting vibes can cause further isolation and suffering. So, when sadistic narcissists, sosio- or psychopaths attack whoever they pick... and successfully get their target to react emotionally it is easy to convince 'flying monkeys' to believe that the target they have chosen, is the "bad one" while representing themselves being the "good". That's how sadistic predators cheat more ppl. To become part of the torture circle. It happens by misinterpreting feelings. Thus, do NOT believe just the vibes when you act in this world. Reality is often opposite of those superficial interpretations.

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[grapevine]

Posted by Franny (here)
Another point of view of reincarnation and why it might be advisable to exit.

Podcast guest 692 is guest Howdie Mickoski. during this podcast we talked about why we should not reincarnate, soul traps and his own death experience. Howdie Mickoski is the author of several books including: Exit the Cave-Ending the Reincarnation Trap, Exposing the Expositions, Falling For Truth, and The Power of Then. For over 25 years he has been exploring the subjects of the nature of reality, philosophy, ancient wisdom and history, as well as ideas of the shaman, far east, alchemy and hermeticism.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dePWFZawYe0

I'm currently watching the video below, which is Part 1 of a series of at least 6 on Howdie Mickoski's book "Exit the Cave". It's both interesting and totally believable.

The subject of whether or not reincarnation is a trap is ongoing and continues to tickle away at our preconceived notions of what happens when we die. As yet, nobody's ever really died and come back to tell the tale. I think maybe the body's natural DMT kicks in when we're dying to help us on our way, (otherwise why do we have it) but of course I don't know either. All I DO know is that I don't want to come back to this planet unless and until all demons are gone!

I haven't watched them all, but I'd be really interested in knowing what our options are should we decide not to go up that ladder and down the chimney again. ie Is it even POSSIBLE to escape, where to, and do we truly have any free will at all?

In the meantime the jury's still out.

Exit the Cave - Chapter 1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lWCoke7pL9s

Exit the Cave - Chapter 2 - Part 1
[B]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzXXDJuujtI&t=15s&ab_channel=HowdieMickoskiTalks

Exit the Cave - Chapter 2 - Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-sf...eMickoskiTalks

[Vicus]

"I haven't watched them all, but I'd be really interested in knowing what our options are should we decide not to go up that ladder and down the chimney again. ie Is it even POSSIBLE to escape, where to, and do we truly have any free will at all?" from Miller post .

for Miller,
Here some answers..

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1615252

[Vicus]

Near death experience "programed"...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CseUa61Thqc

SOUL TRAP DISCLOSURE - Startrek Voyagers episode with Jane & Alien pretending to be her Father 👽

[somebodyyetnobody]

Well, I must say, after spending a few hours reading the replies on this thread, I have to say, I don't know whether to believe it or not. Because from what I've been finding this theory seems to have rules where it can only be talked about by those who are white only. If anyone of color tries to discuss this topic, it seems they're bullied away from it or ostracized and ignored. I say this because I've found this to be true on subreddits discussing the prison planet/soul trap theory and when I tried to write a novel on it. I found that I was ignored and bullied, which, as of yesterday, made me decide to abandon writing a novel on the theory because it seems the entire theory is connected to racial gatekeeping. If you're white, you're free to discuss the theory amongst yourself and with others but if you're black, you'll get ignored and ostracized. So, no, while I used to believe in the soul trap theory, now I think it's just a whites-only theory that is not freeing or educational but instead toxic and prejudice, as if the information of the theory is only for white people only.

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by somebodyyetnobody (here)
Well, I must say, after spending a few hours reading the replies on this thread, I have to say, I don't know whether to believe it or not. Because from what I've been finding this theory seems to have rules where it can only be talked about by those who are white only. If anyone of color tries to discuss this topic, it seems they're bullied away from it or ostracized and ignored. I say this because I've found this to be true on subreddits discussing the prison planet/soul trap theory and when I tried to write a novel on it. I found that I was ignored and bullied, which, as of yesterday, made me decide to abandon writing a novel on the theory because it seems the entire theory is connected to racial gatekeeping. If you're white, you're free to discuss the theory amongst yourself and with others but if you're black, you'll get ignored and ostracized. So, no, while I used to believe in the soul trap theory, now I think it's just a whites-only theory that is not freeing or educational but instead toxic and prejudice, as if the information of the theory is only for white people only.

Why do you give bullies so much power and why do you assume they represent everybody that is white? ... This victim mode/mentality can also be "reverse psychology on steroids" ... I have had a relationship with someone of color and never saw her like that ... only when people bring it up it became an focus of attention, before that I was just "color blind" and focus on what is ... not what some people claim it is.

Am not sure if it is the case with you, but getting receiving critical feedback can be for some perceived as "being bullied" ... then you have to ask, why do you need confirmation from the wrong people? ... And even if people are genuine good people they too can criticize things from their own limited perspectives. As nobody is "all knowing" it is a given that you will find people who have tunnel vision perspectives.

The moment you want recognition (or certain respect) from limited minds you are destined to be disappointment >>> feeling "casted out" because you may feel "not welcomed" this phenomena is universal it can happen everywhere even between people of the same color. Not everybody can cope with that and may seek a way to blame other possible reasons like "racism" >>> meanwhile it can happen to everybody that is beyond the mainstream programming. I can give you countless examples how I was discriminated upon just because I am considered "not normal".

And what exactly is a "gatekeeping" phenomena? ... do you have to be of color to experience the sadness of that? ... or is it something we all can experience like how "group think" aka "us vs them" mentality works. So many sad things happening how people behave can have many causes: how someone is conditioned, how some ones is raised, is someone traumatized thus act differenty etc. etc.

The moment you stop wanting (or expecting) to get approval from (the wrong) people and focus on people that truly resonate with you and finding & exercising your passion you FEEL that you are truly alive and it becomes fun to be alive! ... otherwise it most likely becomes depressing.

Anyone that put emphasis on "believe" like what you said: "I use to believe ..." actually means you are not 100% sure ... you either know from experience or you do not ... you want to know things or you do not ... you can consider new ideas that does not mean you have "blindly believe" anything (as trust has to be earned not blindly given) ... consider the possibility and test if it works for you or not ... then from own experience you can create (gain) your own living wisdom! What works for you does not have to work for others and vice versa ... but still both can consider other ways of doing things and use aspects of it that you find useful or not.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

• You're In A Trap: How To Escape The Soul-Sucking Prison You've Been Boxed Into:

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• I know it is a bit "off", this video, but there are many overlappings of the same deep issues most people may have without realizing it.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I've commented on the light-trap/prison planet theory on various other threads. Put simply reincarnation (here on earth), in my opinion, is only a trap if you chose it to be. I found this very interesting quote, allegedly from an ET contact, that speaks to this phenomenon.

Quote:

" Many highly creative reincarnation options are
available to those who pass from physical existence. The only limits
are the self-imposed restrictive belief systems that a person takes to the
grave. Unfortunately, limited belief systems cause the vast majority
of people on this planet to hastily and uncontrollably reincarnate
within realities and time periods that offer no opportunity for personal
advancement and enlightenment. In other words, wasted precious
time."