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    Default Re: 'Drones' EVERYWHERE, What's Going On?

    In case anyone is interested Alex Jones is presently doing a Saturday broadcast to cover the Livelsberger Las Vegas event, etc, and is giving his viewpoint on it. He said he's talked with friends of Livelsberger and they said Livelsberger wouldn't have done this. He also said that the Livelsberger event was "100% a set up".

    Anyway, we'll see how this story develops and we can try separate fact from fiction (if possible). I am hoping that this will at least result in the truth coming out that the secret government has back-engineered the technology for gravitic craft and other technologies from ETs. So if there is indeed a false flag alien invasion the public can see it as a deception. Of course, such a false flag would be a deception because the US government already made an agreement with ETs and have been working side by side with ETs for decades, so it never was an "invasion" per se.

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    Default Re: 'Drones' EVERYWHERE, What's Going On?

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
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    I tend to think Shawn Ryan is quite careful as to what info he is willing to share with others. He's not immune to making mistakes but he seems quite sure this is reliable and truthful information.

    Here's a fresh video with Larry Johnson about this drone stuff and some other things. he makes a few interesting points.

    Was There Someone BIG Behind The Las Vegas Cybertruck Attack?

    I agree - I think Shawn Ryan is quite careful and also a deeply honorable man. He would never recklessly spread poorly vetted info. On the flip side, I think Shawn is often way out over his skis with some of this "conspiracy" stuff. Not because he's unintelligent, just because he's relatively new to it all. So I usually watch him with this in mind.

    As far as anti-grav or "gravitic" (gravitic? is that a word?): I still haven't seen a single video where these "drones" defy gravity in any way. I haven't seen any of those otherworldly 90 degree turns at high speeds and so forth. It looks like an impressive show at times, but not otherworldly.

    I remain pretty confident that there is an alien technology at play in these sightings (whether it's actual aliens or reverse engineered ET tech, I dunno), but it's the plasma orbs that lead me to believe this, not the drones. Greer claims even the orbs are mostly ours, but who the hell knows?
    The post Blastolabs posted with the PDF (post #446) has a bunch in it about gravitics (electrogravitics). It's from 1993, mostly documents stuff from the 1950's. This technology could be "hyper-advanced" by now though.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Shawn Ryan is soon targeted and shut down. He touches on subjects that picks a lot of scabs that irritate the elites and digs in to the establishments file cabinets so to speak. They'll likely be going after him soon and do their best to make his life miserable to say the least.

    Personally, I don't think these drones are Chinese, but I haven't completely written that off yet. I'm still pretty certain they are military and weapons these scumbags plan on using against us.
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    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)

    I would also say that "propulsion" is not an applicable term for this kind of technology.
    Inertial reduction is the phrase I've heard scientists like Bob Greenyer use. It would make sense to have a "local" gravity onboard the craft, while the craft itself is free from inertia which would mean that a small amount of energy would send the craft flying, and the lack of inertia for the craft would allow right angle turns and near instant acceleration without crushing the material of the craft

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    Default Re: 'Drones' EVERYWHERE, What's Going On?

    China is already at war with the US if you count the many devious new ways with which the CCP is attacking (which we should), from Fentanyl to online hacking, which can enable them to cause all kinds of harm to the infrastructure and more, to buying up farmland and businesses in the US to be used for various nefarious purposes, to widespread propaganda used to discredit the US and make China look good.
    Not to mention buying off political figures like the Bidens to do their will...
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    I am not intimately familiar with Ryan McBeth but what I have seen of him leads me to believe that he is just another talking head that wants to keep the world at war. He is saying that if the United States stops supporting Ukraine it will lead to a hot war with China. He has even forecasted that the USA will be at war with China in two to three years.
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    I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. - Robert Anton Wilson

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Here you go...

    Ian Carroll Suggests Reports of the Las Vegas Bomber Psyop . . . ARE the Psyop

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v63sm7p
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    Default Re: 'Drones' EVERYWHERE, What's Going On?

    I'm sure Musk knows a lot more than he's said so far ( all the vehicle's meta data ).

    If he does, so does Trump.
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    Default Re: 'Drones' EVERYWHERE, What's Going On?

    Quote Posted by Vangelo (here)
    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Here you go...

    Ian Carroll Suggests Reports of the Las Vegas Bomber Psyop . . . ARE the Psyop

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v63sm7p
    The photo of Elon's truck burning in front of Trump's Hotel screams PSYOP!

    There are too many grey parts to this story. However, the only truth may be Chinese involvement or whichever Reptoid has that country on LOCKDOWN.

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    https://x.com/WorldNews_X_/status/1875625750776443202

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/WorldNews_X_/status/1875625750776443202

    Not sure what to make of this.
    The first thing i thought was that the top circular object with the 6 or so green lights was a Drone, and the thing under it looks like a mountain lion/cat thats suspended under the drone by a tether.

    Could this mountain lion/cat be a teams mascot.....?
    If you look in the background you can see a section of "goal posts" that look exactly like Rugby goal posts. (i didnt think rugby was a thing in the USA), So it appears that there is a game of rugby in progress when these objects flew over the sports field.

    What im thinking is that one of the teams is possibly called something like the "Washington mountain lions" , or something like that.

    Where i live we have our football team (AFL) called the "Geelong cats", and our teams mascot is that of a big angry cat, so the thing suspended under the round object with the green lights could well be a teams mascot.

    Funny thing is that everyone in that vid (at very beginning) is staring at these objects and these people seem to act like they have never seen these objects/mascots before.
    Even all the people ON the Field are staring at these objects, but.....none of the people on the field are wearing sports gear, there are 5 or so people on the far left about an inch above the dude in the yellow jumper that are all wearing the same outfits, like a team would wear, but their outfits are not what they would wear to play the game, could be after game team outfits or something like that.

    So is this a Rugby game in the USA, with people on a rugby field all staring at the objects, but none of them are wearing sports attire, and all the crowd are staring at these objects too, and goin by the audible comments made by dudes in the crowd, noone seems to know WTF is goin on.

    If it is a drone with a Mascot, then there in NO mystery .(except that the crowd seem puzzled by it)
    If its not a Mascot, then what the heck is goin on here.............?

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    Default Re: 'Drones' EVERYWHERE, What's Going On?

    Since this thread appears to be the main place for Avalon discussion of the Las Vegas Cybertruck explosion apparent psyop, will add this deep dive here

    https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957218958614896



    The main piece of information that does not fit into any plausible explanation of the Las Vegas Bombing, allegedly by Matthew Livelsberger, is this email.

    Let's do a deep dive, a thread:


    https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957221823037616




    Green Beret Nap Time
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    The first and most important reason is that the bona fides used in the email are incorrect. The entire purpose of bona fides is to prove you are who you say you are, so using fake or wrong bona fides literally implies that nothing in this email can be trusted.

    Matthew Livelsberger never owned a 06 Mustang, as you can see in the vehicle registration report below provided by @Landryy22
    .

    This also coincides with source information I have received from people that knew Matt in High School and claimed his first vehicle was a 1998 Mustang, not a 2006 Mustang.

    The models of these Mustangs are also entirely different, so there is no confusing them, and a person with the experience of Matt would not have messed up this very important aspect of bona fides in what is essentially his final attempt to get his story out.

    — Green Beret Nap Time (@GBNT1952) January 5, 2025


    https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957224683511916




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    The second reason is that a career Green Beret with the experience and training Matt received, would not have the second line of the email state that he was "not under duress or hostile influence or control."

    He was a Jedburgh, meaning he went through highly specified training in HUMINT, tradecraft, and Psychological Operations. He would know that making such a statement would raise red flags such as the following:

    1. It raises unnecessary suspicion and inadvertently draws attention to the possibility that you actually are under duress or operating under influence.

    2. It is considered overcompensation by volunteering information that was unprompted or not requested and would imply that you are not in a competent mental state, making your follow-on statement seem unconvincing.

    3. This statement could also be considered as a way to create a paper trail that fits in with a specified narrative.

    Matt would know this and would not have wanted to make his attempted whistle blowing seem crazy or made up.

    https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957227011678463

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    The third reason is that he was, by all accounts, not in an Unacknowledged Special Access Program (USAP) related to the drones he speaks of in line three according to team members and others that operated with him, despite him saying so at the end of the email.

    He claims to have Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (SUAS) qualifications in his LinkedIn, which is a team or operational unit level drone training qualification for drones that are under 55lbs with limited capabilities.

    Many teams train with drones that would fall under a SUAS qualification, as they are used for battlefield reconnoitering or even for target acquisitions and kinetic strikes with small explosive payloads.

    None of this would imply that he was read on to a Top-Secret government program that would be researching and developing gravitic propulsion systems, as stated in the email.

    In fact, such a program would be so heavily compartmentalized that only people directly involved with the specific Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) USAP project would be read on and able to access information about this, if it even exists.

    So, where did this come from and why add this in if it only makes you look crazy and uninformed? Suspect for sure.

    https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957229188186468




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    The fourth reason is that the next three lines read like something straight out of anti-China MSM talking points, rambling about the east coast drones and Chinese submarines by someone who clearly has no information or expertise on the subject.

    For one, the drones being Chinese launched from Chinese submarines is highly unlikely. The U.S. Navy has sophisticated submarine detection systems that include Long Range Acoustic Detection Systems (LRADS) that utilize hydrophones to detect anomalous incursions by submerged vehicles, satellite surveillance, advanced sonar, and underwater drones.

    Not to mention, if China were to fly drones openly in America, that would be an actual act of war, and I just find it hard to believe that they would take that step.

    For an example of catching some of these drones, a Chinese drone was just recently detected and recovered in Philippine water by their Navy which is far less advanced than our own.

    If Chinese subs or underwater drones were operating along our east coast, the USG would undoubtedly be aware of this, and Matt would know and understand that stating this seems crazy.

    Underwater drone recovered in Masbate | http://Philstar.com

    https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957231629316287




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    The fifth reason is the following line states: "I have been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI, and they are looking to move on me...I have a massive VBIED. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me."

    If you are this concerned about being tracked by homeland or the FBI (which are the same federal entities at this point and can badge however they want depending on the purpose), why would you do the following, which are clear breaches of Survive Evade Resist Escape (SERE), a course he would have taken, and tradecraft 101?

    1. Why would you keep your phone on you and continue to allow them to track you, especially if you had a "massive VBIED" (which obviously he did not have, he had a two-bit redneck conglomeration of mortar fireworks, gas, and campfire fueling canisters put together as if he were a child). This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    2. Why would you rent a rolling, live-streaming, trackable computer such as a Tesla Cybertruck to begin your evasion on a digital site such as Turo?

    Matt was a highly trained SF operator and a Jed. He would know and understand what a Surveillance Detection Route (SDR) was and how to use one effectively.

    He would also not use a vehicle that needed to be recharged at continuously video monitored recharging stations multiple times along his route.

    And lastly, he would not have used a service tied to his own name to rent the vehicle that could easily be tracked and monitored if he were genuinely concerned that the FBI and Homeland were on him.

    3. Why would you make initial contact with all of these people on your personal Instagram (IG) account if you were worried about surveillance and monitoring, and then why would you switch to a Proton Mail (PM) account (which would be used for anonymity) that used a name you have previously used on IG?

    This page has recently been deleted, but
    @GrokstarXai
    found the post below with some digging.

    As you can see, @dabergmlb was the username used which matches his PM account.

    An operator with the training that Matt received would know better than to do anything while in evasion mode that would link his current clean evasion state to any profile that identifies him. It simply makes no sense.


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    The sixth reason is that the email itself contains a ton of misnomers or flat-out wrong information. For instance, the email states "USFORA" which is an acronym for United States Forces Afghanistan.

    Someone at his level, especially as an ODA member in 2019, would have been working under the Special Operations Joint Task Force-Afghanistan (SOJTF-A) at the highest level, and he would have known this.

    USFORA would be used by conventional forces, but the more well-known and common name would have been Resolute Support Mission (RSM) or Operation Resolute Support.

    Again, weird word usage to come from a Special Operations guy.

    Check out http://arsof-history.org for more information:

    Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan (CJSOTF-A) Timeline

    https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957237295775943




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    The seventh reason is that the entire paragraph about war crimes in 2019 is absolutely bonkers. Even if he was doing targeting (which he probably was not as an 18E or 18F on an ODA, depending on which he was at the time), this information is already known public news.

    It is common knowledge that the United States dropped a record number of bombs in 2019 in Afghanistan, and it is also already public knowledge that civilian casualties exceeded those caused by the Taliban during the first six months of 2019.

    Matt would have known this and alluding to this being some smoking gun that would get him in contact with higher is to put it mildly, laughable.

    https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957240143753453



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    @GBNT1952
    The eighth reason is that there are formatting inconsistencies in the email and despite numerous requests, @samosaur has yet to provide a view of the email with technical data from Proton Mail outside of a text editor.

    For an example of a formatting inconsistency, if you look at the bottom of the email posted, there is a space between < dabergmlb@protonmail.com>, where there should not be a space. It should look like the one at the top of the email.

    Also, Sam posted the header as shown below, but again, he posted it from a text editor and not attached to the actual email he received.

    We have asked multiple times for either a video of him opening the email with the technical data visible to see, or for a PDF of the email with all of the technical data available. He could still redact the names from this email with either of those options, yet he has continuously refused or ignored requests to do so.

    Another weird thing is that AI is saying the images provided about the IG messages have been digitally altered as pointed out by
    @boneGPT
    .

    Some answers about this are necessary.



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    So, where do we go from here? I honestly do not know. I do not know what happened to Matt, just like I do not know if he had a mental break and did this or if he was an unwilling participant or patsy (though I still lean towards the latter, especially after seeing the video where whoever was in that truck before the explosion was clearly alive, unlike what was previously reported to us by the FBI), but what I am quite sure of is that he did not write that email.

    Do with this information what you will.

    Trust but verify.

    DOL
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    Default Re: 'Drones' EVERYWHERE, What's Going On?

    Quote Posted by John Hilton (here)
    Phoenix posted:
    Quote Now to add further mystery, someone might be able to explain, is that when I looked, there were only two shots on the camera and I simply cannot fathom the second one (which is marked as taken a minute after the first). It is a shot of a starry night yet the cloud cover was solid and it never looked that way to the naked eye for a moment. Could the camera have readjusted somehow and seen through all that fog? If you zoom in on it, you can see two sets of two lights and possibly part of a constellation. How can this be?
    As an electronics engineer, I have had to test many remote control handsets. The simplest test is to point the handset towards a camera lens and press a button. A human can't see the flashing of the infra-red LED but a camera sees it (and displays it) as white. Try it!

    As a consequence of the fact that most cameras "see" infra-red, any photo taken will include part of the infra-red spectrum - the nearest infra-red to visible. Maybe some cameras even "see" deep infra-red (heat). Maybe that would appear as a white glow around a hot object.

    I haven't personally experimented with this but you might like to. It might explain why a camera sees things that you don't.
    Thanks John, interesting. I did test it on a remote with a black window and saw the white light you speak of. It doesn’t explain why I got a whole star map though. The camera just bypassed all the cloud cover and registered infrared planets?

    In any case, here’s a further development tonight. Pointing the camera again at another light I was curious about since nothing else was visible in the dark and cloudy night…I shot a quick video and took a photo. Imagine my surprise when I put it on my iPad instead of squinting at my phone and saw this…

    …pause while I figure out how to post a short vid from my phone…can anyone help please?

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    This image was recently taken by a very close friend of mine who wishes to remain anonymous. He is a professional photographer and has taught photography at the University level. He was driving when he pulled over to take this pic with his iPhone 15. The image was taken in the USA where a lot of drone activity has been reported. Hate to be so vague but it is the only way he would allow me to publish the image.


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    Quote Posted by Moemers (here)
    https://x.com/ryanmcbeth/status/1875...091099139?s=42

    that Shawn Ryan interview and the "Manifesto" is bull**** according to this guy. Which I'm inclined to agree with.

    Also, Shawn Ryan's father and uncle were both special forces instructors on Fort Bragg, so...
    You know, I only watched a few minutes of the Shawn Ryan stuff and just switched off, I don’t know if he’s a schemer, scammer or click-baiter because they’re all out in force on this subject, I’m not really interested, I’m just feeling this is all part of the circus to keep us busy and addled while avoiding the fact that contact is being made with anyone that wants it. People are having experiences that are making them ask the big questions like can we communicate directly, telepathically with advanced intelligence currently very present in our skies in mysterious craft?

    Whatever games are being played politically and militarily with their fancy reverse engineered toys seem rather irrelevant to me, although I do understand that for many, being fed and seeking prosaic explanations is more comforting than confronting the great mystery and/or acknowledging that not only are we not the only species of conscious being in the universe, we are not the most advanced or the most intelligent.

    If China or Russia have designs to take over the US or the Muslims to take over Europe, they actually pale into insignificance if the Galactic Federation is here, tired of our leaders’ failures to heed guidance, tired of their squabbles and lies, out of patience. Time’s up. Now communicate directly with the people. This bypass would shatter the ruling elite eventually.

    Meanwhile, it’s also a very human thing to imagine there’s wars in space between good and bad et’s, it’s disappointing for me to think this duality of good and evil would pertain to the entire universe. In any case, it does seem that in our little corner of it something big is happening…

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    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)

    Hello Artemesia,

    I don’t think your post is entirely unrelated to this thread, or maybe we need a new one ‘current phenomena’…

    I am now certain there is ET activity going on and the drones are a separate man made spectacle, so to your picture, are you saying the person in the white cap at the desk was not there to the naked eye? You say this happens to you all the time, is that unexpected figures in photos?’
    Sharing some photos here for SilentFeathers. I had another strange owl incident occur (involving a vision of an owl and then finding a REAL owl that had been hit by a car on the side of the road when I was heading to town, driving rural forest roads). I buried the beautiful creature in my own forest land and some feathers now adorn my Earth medicine ‘protection’ pole on my land. I had just done some plant medicine work for someone and was paid for that work with a large selenite spiral crystal and put it in the crystal tower holder on the post, and snapped a pic. My camera powered down immediately after this image was taken. There is a light anomaly of some
    kind in the picture off in the woods to the left of the post (where there is nothing but a ravine with a waterfall in it, no lights, no structures there whatsoever) and a close up zoom of the or reveals … something. There are little ‘sparkles’ all around the post if you zoom in, but these are likely flash shine on raindrops. I live in the Dagoba system (a temperate rainforest) and it always pours prodigious amounts of water this time of year. But the larger light anomaly (some call these orbs, some feel they are the conveyance vehicle of the interdimensional beings themselves) is up high, off to the left of the post. You decide what you see.

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    https://x.com/catturd2/status/1877679865782018209



    Trump War Room

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    PRESIDENT TRUMP: "I'm going to give you a report on drones about one day into the administration because I think it's ridiculous that they're not telling you about what's going on with the drones."
    I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. - Robert Anton Wilson

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
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    Trump War Room

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    I'll believe it when I "hear" it, I'm not holding my breath.

    If it was that simple why not just say what's going on today???????????
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    Some of our brave UFO oflogists have spoke out about the lights in the sky starting from November and continnuing worldwide.


    There wil be light shed on this matter before January runs out acording to Dr S Greer.

    Mr Bledsoe who says he has it all, tells us its comming, and soon.

    And dont forget "All hell will break out i JAN 2025" was stated in from Ross Coulthart in the show "Need to Know" from December (If anyone can find a clip of that*^`?= to me)

    Stephen Basset said - They are fed up with us, now its time fore disclossure

    "Richard Dolan" = ? dunno

    Feel free to add to the list!

    What are your thoughts?
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    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    Some of our brave UFO oflogists have spoke out about the lights in the sky starting from November and continnuing worldwide.


    There wil be light shed on this matter before January runs out acording to Dr S Greer.

    Mr Bledsoe who says he has it all, tells us its comming, and soon.

    And dont forget "All hell will break out i JAN 2025" was stated in from Ross Coulthart in the show "Need to Know" from December (If anyone can find a clip of that*^`?= to me)

    Stephen Basset said - They are fed up with us, now its time fore disclossure

    "Richard Dolan" = ? dunno

    Feel free to add to the list!

    What are your thoughts?
    I think an important question to ask oneself in all this is, "do I really want someone else's STORY on this?" real disclosure happens within. yes, some external information is useful, but its clear that no one who is given a platform on the world stage has an ounce of truth to share that isnt tied into a monetary system or kickback or some kind of agenda motivation at its core. Real contact is simple, silent and obtuse. It comes in strange messages and hints from the infinite that are difficult to decipher until the moment when their meaning is completely obvious, and it was only ever meant for the one who experienced it first hand in the first place. If you remember the nature of the contact Jodi Foster's character made in the film Contact, which has a long and interesting thread discussing the nature of that interaction as presented in the film here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1571785

    then that is more like what real contact actually is. and outside of a movie from over 30 years ago.... its unlikely that the chaotic node that is digital media of the current timeline will present anything remotely accurate or free of manipulation in terms of outlining the truth of what is actually happening. it has to be lived. on an individual level. whatever that is for you.

    As for a disclosure? from someone who has a global media megaphone? its sure to be a telephone game of distorted conversations. disclosure is letting yourself experience contact, and being brave enough to admit that that is what is happening, and that no one else can 'be there' in that moment but you.

    this is probably not the information or response that most want to hear. most are still looking outside themselves to something perceived as an 'authority' or 'in the know' for corroboration or answers. personally, I have decided that 'they', in any form of that posturing, have exactly nothing to offer. in any way whatsoever. as such, per usual, i am guessing there will be some angry rebukes to this reply of mine. its just what I have concluded after a lot of personal experience, and contact with something largely unknown and otherworldly. in the end, the journey is basically an entirely solitary one. its why the other dimensional contact being in the film 'Contact' that i mentioned above says to Ellie, "we take one step, and then another, its how contact always happens. and what we've found is that in all this space, in all its vastness, the only thing that makes it bearable.... is each other.' its a vastness of solitude with some remarkable moments of companionship along the way. if you let it be that.

    it doesn't have to be that solitary, but most people fear the alone-ness that is a hallmark of that level of existential awareness. its the aloneness that Ellie faced upon her 'return' that probably underscored just how profound 'contact' truly was for her.

    I posted a cool video about what that feels like, from a more philosophical perspective, over on the Negative time thread, if you want a more eloquent and pictorial description of that kind of moment:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1650020

    anyways, those are my thoughts, since you asked.

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    rawhide. I have from my intel agency friend/ contact that there will be a significant event coming around the time of the inauguration regarding this topic.

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