Trump's election: the woke reaction

[edina]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by edina (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

My best provisional answer lies in my intro to this thread, some of the replies on which veered off course a little quite soon after I tried to explain (maybe not very well!) what I quite strongly felt was going on, a mechanism that was totally unknown but which one late evening back in 2008 I'd happened to experience very directly and vividly.

• The blanket Mind Control field, and how it works

If there was such a 'blanket mind control field' in operation regarding Trump, 'new liberal values' (including everything that's been dubbed 'woke', and also incorporating an absolute promise of how the future will be, then once that 'promise' was broken what ensues is a literally a fracturing of the mind.

Thanks for responding Bill, I remember that interview with Jake Simpson, and what he described is something I can relate to.

It seems here that you are considering this from the perspective of a larger, collective mind, rather than from many individual minds. A fracturing of the mind feels a bit more severe than a cognitive disconnect.

If this is a symptom of a broader, larger mind phenomena, then it could also be somewhat like what Joseph Chilton Pearce described as a "crack in the cosmic egg"? An opportunity within an apparent crisis?

I'll reread the Jake Simpson interview and sleep on this, see what comes up in the morning.

Regarding 'a fracturing of the mind' (the first phrase that came to me when replying!), remember that Mark Halperin quite seriously predicted the following at the close of his 15 October interview with Tucker Carlson: (posted here)

Trump Derangement Syndrome will be the Biggest Mental Health Crisis in American History.

I reread the Jake Simpson interview last night, and I think you're on to something, but I'm not sure how it fits into the intense reactions of people in response to "Trump winning the election". The reactions shown in this thread look very much like complex betrayal of trust trauma (of the institutional nature) coupled with a demoralization propaganda campaign.

I'll continue to ponder the ideas related to blanket mind control, and possibly that hyper-dimensional AI that Jake Simpson talked about, and see if anything more surfaces on that, but for now, I'm not getting anything.

I think, too, if I'm understanding you correctly, you hoped this thread would serve as a sort of record of the reaction by people who fit the category of woke.
Let me know if I understand that intention accurately.

Another article, again reposted on ZeroHedge, mentions the surge in popularity of Trump among young people since the election. Not all of the "woke", and/or leftist minded people are struggling with a cognitive disconnect. This development may point to what I earlier referred to as an opportunity within the crises, ...

Trump's Popularity Surges Among Young Americans
Paul Joseph Watson via Modernity.news,

“Conducted from November 17 to 19, the survey revealed that 57 percent of Americans aged 18 to 29 now hold a favorable view of Trump, marking a net favorability increase of 19 points in that demographic since the YouGov poll on November 9 and 12,” reports Newsweek.

This segment of the demographic represented 16 per cent of the 2024 voting electorate

A video posted to TikTok by a young woman underscores the enthusiasm towards Trump being expressed by Gen Z and younger millennials.

REPORT: Trump's favorability surges by almost 20 points with young Americans, according to a new YouGov poll.

The seismic shift is extremely noticeable on TikTok, where young people (like in the video below) explain why they left the Democratic party for the Right.

57% of… pic.twitter.com/zucKAotvIb
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 24, 2024

“Why are we being fed this narrative [about Trump] over and over… when it directly contradicts the truth at every turn,” said Natalya Toryanski.

“Then I realized conservatives are the resistance. Conservatives are resisting against the big government machine,” she added.

This article was posted a few days ago, so I apologize if this has already been posted somewhere here in the forum or this thread and I missed it. I haven't seen it yet, if it was.

This development is another part of the dynamic of how people are reacting to the election results. If the surveys are accurate and the numbers are as high as reported, I think the young people who are not struggling will be helping the young people who are, in ways that they can relate to because of their shared culture. Maybe that's an optimistic assessment, but it's one I hope for.

There's been a massive betrayal of trust by institutions that have held themselves up to be trustworthy. That still needs to be dealt with.

[Kryztian]

A historical perspective: Trump Derangement Syndrome, August 2017, from Harper's Bazaar.







Somehow, the magazine isn't embarrassed about by this article and it is still on line: https://www.harpersbazaar.com/cultur...mp-supporters/

[Kryztian]

More good Thanksgiving wishes* from the main stream media to you (*that is, if your entire family voted against Trump):


"Happy Thanksgiving*" from Politico Magazine, 2017
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...giving-215862/





"Happy Thanksgiving*" from GQ Magazine, 2017
https://www.gq.com/story/the-case-fo...g-thanksgiving





"Happy Thanksgiving*" from Salon Magazine, 2023
https://www.salon.com/2023/11/23/dem...wins-the-2024/






Back in 1943 at the Saturday Evening Post, things were a bit different. Best wishes of Thanksgiving were extended to everyone in the family no matter who they voted for: Franklin Roosevelt, Wendell Wilkie, Thomas Dewey, etc.

[Kryztian]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Regarding 'a fracturing of the mind' (the first phrase that came to me when replying!), remember that Mark Halperin quite seriously predicted the following at the close of his 15 October interview with Tucker Carlson: (posted here)

Trump Derangement Syndrome will be the Biggest Mental Health Crisis in American History.

I think that some of the biggest victims of the Trump Derangement Syndrome Psychological Operation are the people who are reporting the news, which means if you want to see the Psy-Op in action, just turn on the television. There is probably no greater, more damaged victim than Joy Reid, who seems like a qualified cult member, urging others to show their allegiance to the cult by abandoning their families if they voted for Trump. I have to imagine that MSNBC has a few employees on their staff who were trained at Tavistock to encourage their news reporters in their deranged paranoid beliefs. I wouldn't be surprised if they put drugs in the water bottles there to make people schizoidal. Probably the worst victim, or the one whose paranoid delusions are the most grandiose, are Joy Reid. I have to pray for her recovery.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=paOILCzlQk8

[Vangelo]

Posted by edina (here)
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The cognitive disconnect from what many of these people were inculcated to believe versus what reality actually is just led to some painful cognitive breakdowns.

I still feel there must be some sort of accountability in the media for their role in this. No easy answer there though.

Dante describes this from the perspective of being a practicing therapist:

I speak from some experience, having spent multiple hours per day over the past few weeks hearing from clients about the damage inflicted upon their psyches “by the Trump win.” This is their account of things. My own opinion, however, is that someone has subjected these kids to psychic trauma. But it wasn’t Donald Trump.

The article tagline is one point that I keep revisiting in my mind.

Political fearmongering has real psychological consequences…

I think this applies across a wide spectrum of topics and culture, in addition to the political arena.

And this, it's thought-provoking to just sit and weigh in on it inwardly..

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Thank you Edina for sharing this question with us. I too have been wondering what is going on and have concluded it is indeed some form of brain washing or mind control. However, your post has shown me it is also a very dangerous and insidious thing that needs to be openly discussed and understood so that we can address it and protect ourselves and our loved ones from it.

Just today, I was messaging a friend whose daughter is as woke as can be. I believe our conversation sheds some light on an aspect of the phenomenon that I would like to share with you all. Here is a quote from our discussion about Trump threatening Mexico with tariffs (I will bold the relevant part)...

"... absolutely no surprise about Mexico. I know this sounds racist but it is merely an observation; but absolutely everywhere we went from tiny little towns in the middle of Utah to sleepy villages on the coast to big cities everywhere, there were big communities of Mexican people."

I asked my friend what part of that statement sounded racist. My friends response surprised me...
"my daughter has often told me that just noticing makes me a racist"

I replied, your daughter has been brainwashed and she is also attempting to brainwash you without realizing it. I think Orwell called it "Right Think" in his book 1984.

My friend's response was, "I agree, my daughter is 100% under their thought control. She and I have argued the point so often. She blames my childhood as the reason why I am the one who is blind and controlled, not her, and she is not able to move past that."

My friend's daughter is an intelligent young woman in her early 20s. When she is not working, she is glued to her phone and reads or watches every piece of propaganda she can.

She has taken every vax booster and gets covid frequently. Her father is 70, has Rheumatoid Arthritis and is on Hydroxychloroquine. When ever she got Covid, her and her sister's illness was worse than their parents. The father only got it once from them and it was very mild. The mother got it almost every time the daughter's did. When the daughter was asked if the father's 'immunity' to covid was because of the HydroChloroquin, her response was, absolutely not, he is just lucky.

She is not capable of critical thinking if the thinking violates the narrative and her world view.

[mountain_jim]

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Kyle Becker
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"Above all, don't lie to yourself."

Profound truth by Dostoyevsky.

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It is true that there are paragraphs in Dostoyevsky that are more profound than anything you read in entire books on psychology.

When you read his books in the original, such as "Crime and Punishment," the genius becomes even more obvious.
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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Mike (here)
I've lost count of how many times I've watched Jimmy Kimmel crying. It's an absolute tonic, and I simply can't get enough. I fell asleep to watching it, woke up with my phone on my chest, and watched it a few more times to start my day. It's just such a glorious gift he's given us. The misery this smug prick is feeling now is like rocket fuel for my soul.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5JxELubSgJg

Made me laugh:

https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1879653553888801220